Re: Opportunity

[Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss]

David,

I have always enjoyed your thoughts, even though we do not agree when it 
comes to political issues.   And I think your a smart guy.


On 2022-08-17 03:25, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I'll pass on this one because it could get politically charged very 
quickly and my intention were to try to understand what is coming.


I posted to this list hoping for thoughts from technical people.


I don’t know what you’re referring to exactly about the economy
crashing, other than the typical doom-and-gloom nonsense that the
right-wing propaganda machinery floods the airwaves with whenever
Democrats are in charge of things. The truth is, things are always
shifting, slowly but surely.



I hope it is all doom-and-gloom.  I'm not up for an economic crash.  You 
and I have lived though some interesting times.


- Oil embargo, which killed the musical car era.
- 70's and 80's which kept my wages 20% behind the real cost of living.
- 30 years of perpetual wars
- The creation of the Internet and all that has come with it.

I do not think what is currently taking place is "right-wing 
propaganda".


I am hearing and reading:

- Ukraine and Russia produce 70% of the worlds wheat which is not making 
it to the market this year.
- Ukraine and Russia produce 70% of the worlds commercial fertilizer 
which is not making it to the market this year.

- We are experiencing a severe drought world wide.
- Some are saying there will be famine and food shortages.  I'm seeing 
vacant shelves at the grocery stores.
- The dollar is losing it's place as the world's reserve currency. That 
means dollars going to come home causing even more inflation.
- Some are saying it could be as bad as the Great Depression.  And I 
truly hope this is "right-wing propaganda".
- Some are saying we will see double digit inflation for 10 years.  How 
do I plan my wife's retirement with that? I'll work till I die...  I did 
the math.  If I save $1000 today, in 10 years it will have $350 of 
buying power.


I was hoping to spend my old age working on my old muscle car and old 
RV. I do not own either. Oh, and throw in some watching the grass grow.


I do not want this to turn political.  I am in search of wisdom.

Here are my thoughts.

1) Transition away from Windows and MAC.  Buy some old hardware, while 
it is cheep.  In fact 6 months from now lots of things might be cheep - 
new and old.  I read Walmart is laying off 300 executives dues to the 
slow in the economy and having an over stocked situation.  I would buy 
as much RAM as you might need for your new and old hardware and replace 
spinners with SSD drives.


2) I know this is a Linux list so I assume most know Linux better that 
most others.  I am a programmer.  A PHP developer.  I understand most 
developers do not know Linux.  I recommend learning how to configure and 
maintain a LAMP server for testing and development.  The P stands for 
PHP.


3) I would recommend that those who do not have the skills to maintain a 
Linux desktop should burn some midnight oil and learn the basics.  I had 
to move to Windows 6 years ago because of a business need.  Windows 10 
has 3 more years before it's end of life.  By that time I will be back 
on Linux for good.


4) Create a blog and journal your learning and experiences.

5) If you are looking for a job, find the hiring managers and ask them 
to mentor you so you can find the door into what you want to do.


6) I think a lot of businesses will fail. AND out of the ashes new 
businesses will form.  These new businesses will need to use technology 
to their benefit.  What technologies will they need?


7) Linux and web programming is turning into, and may have already 
turned into a cottage industry.  For hosting there only needs to be one 
admin local to the facility.  All others can work remote.


8) Covid caused a shift away from the office to the spare bedroom.  In 
an effort to save money I think most companies will have a hybrid model. 
Employees will need to make it into the office periodically while 
working from home for the majority of the time. The amount of office 
space necessary to run a business will shrink.  Office space should be 
cheep for the foreseeable future.


9) We have become a mail order economy.  I only buy groceries in person 
and that will change within the next few month.  I used to buy 
everything retail.  Not anymore.  And that saves me time and gas.  I tip 
so the tip is probably what I would spend on gas... however it does 
spare my car wear and tear.


Those are my thoughts.  I would like to hear from others.



As for technology, I’d make this simple observation:

At some point, the world leader in CPU chips — Intel — was
following along the same path they had been taking for years and was
working on a 5 GHz CPU when they realized that as they kept trying to
speed-up CPUs, the amount of effort needed to extract the heat from
the chips would make the hardware far too expensive and cumbersome to
rema

Re: Opportunity

[David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss]

I’m really not trying to get into a political debate, except that the “doom and 
gloom” stuff seems to keep coming from the same sources, in the same way that 
Arctic cold fronts always come from the North. At the end of the day, it’s just 
another day.

Keith chose the Subject as “Opportunity” and then started the discussion 
assuming “doom and gloom”. Smart investors make money whether the market is 
going up, down, or sideways. I don’t pay attention to this nonsense, and the 
best political advice I have is for others to ignore it as well.

For quite a while I watched several news broadcasts daily, and one day I was 
sitting there and had this epiphany: this is like listening to a daily update 
of a horse race that just keeps going on ... day after day, week after week, 
month after month, forever. 

You tune in each day and hear this horse is edging out this other horse, and 
you hear interviews about the people riding them, with people giving their 
opinions about how each rider’s background is affecting their strategy and 
justifying their current position in the race today. Each day the horses are in 
slightly different places relative to each other, but they’re all moving 
forward. Sometimes one trips and falls, and all hell breaks loose. There are 
dozens of horses and riders in the race, and MILLIONS of people watching and 
opining on what’s going on. 

EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION. So what? 

The thing is, from one day to the next, NONE OF THE OPINIONS MATTER. What 
matters is THE RACE EACH OF US IS IN OURSELVES.

Some people choose to see “doom and gloom” while others choose to see 
“everything is looking up”. 

I tend to go with this: The sun is going to keep rising every day, and life 
will go on given half a chance. Everything else is just noise.

I don’t claim to have a crystal ball, but I do believe that when a small number 
of companies are responsible for a significant portion of financial leverage in 
the world, the overall economy is going to tend to follow in their wake, even 
if just a little. That’s were we’re at today, especially in the tech world.

Beyond that, I believe there’s a huge mega-trend happening in the world today, 
which is tied to climactic changes. You can listen to the pundits all you want, 
but we cannot deny the fact that average temperatures are rising, watersheds 
are drying up, and water is becoming scarce. This may be man-made and it may be 
simply one of Mother Nature’s cyclic activities. But it’s not something any ONE 
of us can do much about. 

Russia is trying to blow up a nuclear plant in Ukraine. They might as well drop 
a nuclear bomb there. Talk about cutting off their nose to spit their face! But 
that’s what they seem to think is needed to “win” — win by blowing up their own 
feet. Yes, there are truly stupid people in the world and we’re watching them 
destroy themsevles day by day in that part of the world. It’s not as if Nature 
is doing enough damage to agricultural production, these guys want to ensure 
one of the most fertile farming regions of the world won’t be able to produce 
ANYTHING for CENTURIES. What kind of idiots do that?

One thing is certain: a LOT of people around the world are going to start 
freaking out and throwing money at would-be solutions. THERE LIES OPPORTUNITY!

Look at all of the things that burn fossil fuels; that run inefficiently and 
produce more heat than needed; that are expensive to break-down and recycle; 
that waste water, energy, and can’t be re-used — all of these things are going 
to be looked at with increasing scrutiny by others even as they’re watching the 
bigger horse races, and they are going to be making buying decisions based on 
this stuff. 

Yes, this list is about technology. And technology presents a HUGE OPPORTUNITY 
to fill the needs of people who are going to be looking to down-size, 
right-size, and make their lives more EFFICIENT. A lot of them are going to be 
us Baby Boomers who are becoming empty-nesters and want to simplify our lives. 
What sorts of OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE?

They’re not all technical.


For example, next February the Super Bowl is going to be here in Phoenix again. 
Last time it was here, I noticed something: you could not get a room or a car 
for a 75 mile radius from early January to late February. Car rental folks 
pulled in cars from Tucson, San Diego, LA, Las Vegas, and Alberqueue, and there 
was STILL A SHORTAGE! 

Low supply combined with high demand caused prices to SKYROCKET.

These people aren’t looking for Linux servers! They want a place to sleep and a 
car to get around in! If you have a house and you can move out for a few weeks, 
you might be able to rent your house and car out for $2000-$4000 per week! Now 
THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY!

Or just buy some nice used cars, put them up on GetAround, and offer to park 
them at AirBNB places people will be renting next winter. Offer them $100 a 
week and charge their tenants $500 a week. If that seems like a lot, consid

Re: Opportunity

[Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss]

On 2022-08-18 14:09, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I’m really not trying to get into a political debate, except that
the “doom and gloom” stuff seems to keep coming from the same
sources, in the same way that Arctic cold fronts always come from the
North. At the end of the day, it’s just another day.

Keith chose the Subject as “Opportunity” and then started the
discussion assuming “doom and gloom”. Smart investors make money
whether the market is going up, down, or sideways. I don’t pay
attention to this nonsense, and the best political advice I have is
for others to ignore it as well.

For quite a while I watched several news broadcasts daily, and one day
I was sitting there and had this epiphany: this is like listening to a
daily update of a horse race that just keeps going on ... day after
day, week after week, month after month, forever.

You tune in each day and hear this horse is edging out this other
horse, and you hear interviews about the people riding them, with
people giving their opinions about how each rider’s background is
affecting their strategy and justifying their current position in the
race today. Each day the horses are in slightly different places
relative to each other, but they’re all moving forward. Sometimes
one trips and falls, and all hell breaks loose. There are dozens of
horses and riders in the race, and MILLIONS of people watching and
opining on what’s going on.

EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION. So what?

The thing is, from one day to the next, NONE OF THE OPINIONS MATTER.
What matters is THE RACE EACH OF US IS IN OURSELVES.

Some people choose to see “doom and gloom” while others choose to
see “everything is looking up”.

I tend to go with this: The sun is going to keep rising every day, and
life will go on given half a chance. Everything else is just noise.

I don’t claim to have a crystal ball, but I do believe that when a
small number of companies are responsible for a significant portion of
financial leverage in the world, the overall economy is going to tend
to follow in their wake, even if just a little. That’s were we’re
at today, especially in the tech world.

Beyond that, I believe there’s a huge mega-trend happening in the
world today, which is tied to climactic changes. You can listen to the
pundits all you want, but we cannot deny the fact that average
temperatures are rising, watersheds are drying up, and water is
becoming scarce. This may be man-made and it may be simply one of
Mother Nature’s cyclic activities. But it’s not something any ONE
of us can do much about.

Russia is trying to blow up a nuclear plant in Ukraine. They might as
well drop a nuclear bomb there. Talk about cutting off their nose to
spit their face! But that’s what they seem to think is needed to
“win” — win by blowing up their own feet. Yes, there are truly
stupid people in the world and we’re watching them destroy
themsevles day by day in that part of the world. It’s not as if
Nature is doing enough damage to agricultural production, these guys
want to ensure one of the most fertile farming regions of the world
won’t be able to produce ANYTHING for CENTURIES. What kind of idiots
do that?

One thing is certain: a LOT of people around the world are going to
start freaking out and throwing money at would-be solutions. THERE
LIES OPPORTUNITY!

Look at all of the things that burn fossil fuels; that run
inefficiently and produce more heat than needed; that are expensive to
break-down and recycle; that waste water, energy, and can’t be
re-used — all of these things are going to be looked at with
increasing scrutiny by others even as they’re watching the bigger
horse races, and they are going to be making buying decisions based on
this stuff.

Yes, this list is about technology. And technology presents a HUGE
OPPORTUNITY to fill the needs of people who are going to be looking to
down-size, right-size, and make their lives more EFFICIENT. A lot of
them are going to be us Baby Boomers who are becoming empty-nesters
and want to simplify our lives. What sorts of OPPORTUNITIES DO WE
HAVE?

They’re not all technical.

For example, next February the Super Bowl is going to be here in
Phoenix again. Last time it was here, I noticed something: you could
not get a room or a car for a 75 mile radius from early January to
late February. Car rental folks pulled in cars from Tucson, San Diego,
LA, Las Vegas, and Alberqueue, and there was STILL A SHORTAGE!

Low supply combined with high demand caused prices to SKYROCKET.

These people aren’t looking for Linux servers! They want a place to
sleep and a car to get around in! If you have a house and you can move
out for a few weeks, you might be able to rent your house and car out
for $2000-$4000 per week! Now THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY!

Or just buy some nice used cars, put them up on GetAround, and offer
to park them at AirBNB places people will be renting next winter.
Offer them $100 a week and charge their tenants $500 a week. If that
seems like a lot, con

Re: Opportunity

[Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss]

Then you can become a pundit.


On 2022-08-17 12:00, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:

I am not going to argue politics, especially on this list. However, I
do ask that you dismiss all the pundits on both sides, go out and do
your own research. Just an honest opinion on my part, I don’t think
you are going to like what you see.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Political Sciences
Dept.


On Aug 17, 2022, at 3:25 AM, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:

I don’t know what you’re referring to exactly about the economy
crashing, other than the typical doom-and-gloom nonsense that the
right-wing propaganda machinery floods the airwaves with whenever
Democrats are in charge of things. The truth is, things are always
shifting, slowly but surely.

As for technology, I’d make this simple observation:

At some point, the world leader in CPU chips — Intel — was
following along the same path they had been taking for years and was
working on a 5 GHz CPU when they realized that as they kept trying
to speed-up CPUs, the amount of effort needed to extract the heat
from the chips would make the hardware far too expensive and
cumbersome to remain viable. So they decided that multiple CPUs on
the chip where the CPU speed was around 2-3 GHz would be better in
the long-run.

I’m guessing that the folks at a world leader in computer
engineering — Apple Computer — also figured this out. Intel
sells chips; Apple sells computer systems. Dell buys Intel chips and
integrates video cards from another vendor that use Intel’s GPUs.
Apple doesn’t really care who makes what; they just want to
maximize their profits.

Coincidentally, video cards have been hard to come by because the
GPUs have been getting hijacked for use by crytocurrency miners. A
large portion of these have Intel GPUs on them.

Apple decided it might make more sense to simply put a bunch of CPUs
and GPUs on one substrate and then tune their software to run on
this sort of architecture, alleviating the dependency on separate
CPU and GPU chips and cards. There’s a side-effect in that nobody
is going to be hijacking their GPUs for other purposes.

Intel apparently didn’t want to lose the revenues they’ve been
earning from their GPU chip sales to crypto miners and, well, Apple
is no longer using either Intel’s CPUs or GPUs.

So while some say the economy is “crashing”, the 10 largest
corporations in the world are all reporting record profits and
growth. The stuff politicians are doing to continue long-term
policies that enable corporations to siphon off more and more money
from consumers is appalling, and may well lead to a lot more
discomfort and pain for consumers, but certainly not from corporate
shareholders and execs. If you want to profit from that shift, then
buy stocks in these large and growing companies. Warren Buffet has
large holdings in them, as well as Apple. He also owns a large
utility company in Nevada.

Speaking of utility companies, one thing that is surely going to
help “crash” the economy (for consumers) over the coming decade
is the increasing growth of EVs and their need to get their fuel
from the power grid. The same power grid that’s going to be used
to power computers and crypto miners. Some with
politically-motivated arguments might see it as convenient that
states like Arizona have passed laws that give utility companies the
power to punish consumers who want to install their own renewable
energy sources and batteries to become independent of the power
grid. Yes, we’re talking about those folks who’d like to unhook
from the inevitable increases we’re going to see in the cost of
electricity, especially since the cost of fuel to power generators
is also skyrocketing — and the profits from those price increases
is nearly all flowing into the bank accounts of the monarchy of
Saudi Arabia (with the help of elected officials in Congress, both
past and present, members of both political parties).

The tea leaves are pretty clear to many readers: there’s a big
shift towards more and more things in our life that require
electricity to run, and it’s inevitable that the cost of said
power is going to go up. But the price of gas is also going up,
which is contributing to the increase in power costs. Buying a bunch
of old computers that consume 3x the power of the newest computers
does not seem like a smart way to avoid increases in the cost of
electricity.

Make your home more thermally efficient so you don’t need to run
your A/C as much. Replace electronic equipment with newer
lower-power stuff. Reduce your overall carbon footprint by 10%. Grow
your own fruits and veggies. Set up a wind turbine or solar panels
to charge batteries that power your electronic equipment at home,
but do not connect them to the grid. Buy an inexpensive EV to get
around town, because in the long-run it’ll be far cheaper than a
gas-powered vehicle. (I recommend a Bolt or a Leaf as they’re the
cheapest EVs on the market today and will remain so for 2-3 

SeaGL cfp closing Friday

[der.hans via PLUG-discuss]

moin moin,

I mentioned it at the meetings, but forgot to post to the list.

SeaGL is virtual on November 4th and 5th. Our cfp closes tomorrow if you'd
like to propose a talk.

https://SeaGL.org/cfp

ciao,

der.hans
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T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss]

I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really like 
it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says it has 2x 
1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case anybody else might 
want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to connect, I’ve solved the 
speed dilemma.

First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying about 
it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be releasing a 
new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.

Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once again 
the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope — it’s 
still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of bucks off of 
the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother to include the 
slow ethernet ports at all.

(In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most 
modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from Cox 
and CenturyLink.)

I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a product 
like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg ethernet ports?

Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range 
Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire into 
it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.

To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870 Mbps. 
The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps. 

With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750 Mbps 
DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via the wired 
connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the older one from 
2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)

And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two Mac 
Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old one via 
Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do that over 
WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the wired connection, 
it’s quite reasonable.

BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet bill 
by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a couple of 
internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).

T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and has 
fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend it. Just … 
if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast WAP/Range 
Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.

-David Schwartz




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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really
> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says
> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case
> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to
> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>
> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>
> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>
> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>
> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
> ethernet ports?
>
> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>
> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>
> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>
> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two
> Mac Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old
> one via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do
> that over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the
> wired connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>
> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet
> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a
> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>
> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and
> has fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend
> it. Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast
> WAP/Range Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss]

I wouldn’t be getting 700 Mbps with the WAP/Range Extender then (insted of 92), 
would I?

-David Schwartz




> On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really 
> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says it 
> has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case anybody 
> else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to connect, I’ve 
> solved the speed dilemma.
> 
> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying 
> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be 
> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
> 
> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once 
> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope — 
> it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of bucks 
> off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother to 
> include the slow ethernet ports at all.
> 
> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most 
> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from 
> Cox and CenturyLink.)
> 
> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a product 
> like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg ethernet ports?
> 
> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range 
> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire into 
> it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
> 
> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870 Mbps. 
> The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps. 
> 
> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750 Mbps 
> DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via the 
> wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the older one 
> from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
> 
> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two Mac 
> Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old one via 
> Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do that over 
> WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the wired 
> connection, it’s quite reasonable.
> 
> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet 
> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a 
> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
> 
> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and has 
> fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend it. Just 
> … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast WAP/Range 
> Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss]

The device I received from them has a single 1 gig port which I have a 16
port gig switch plugged in and everything is connected with Cat 6.  I've
seen up to 800 Mbps.

*Daniel P. Stasinski*
dan...@genericinbox.com
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really
> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says
> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case
> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to
> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>
> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>
> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>
> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>
> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
> ethernet ports?
>
> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>
> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>
> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>
> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two
> Mac Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old
> one via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do
> that over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the
> wired connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>
> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet
> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a
> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>
> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and
> has fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend
> it. Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast
> WAP/Range Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[der.hans via PLUG-discuss]

Am 19. Aug, 2022 schwätzte David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss so:

moin moin David,

thanks for the report! I've been considering switching to them, but
was leary without first talking to someone who uses it.

How's the latency? I had seen report that it works well for SSH. Is that
your experience?

What about IP telephony? One would expect calls to work fine :).

I presume it's fine for watching IP TV and other things that buffer.

Are you allowed to run services?

Can you get static IP addresses?

Do they router IPv6?

Asking in case you know, thereby saving me having to explain it to a tech
support person :).

ciao,

der.hans


I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really like 
it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says it has 2x 
1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case anybody else might 
want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to connect, I’ve solved the 
speed dilemma.

First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying about 
it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be releasing a 
new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.

Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once again 
the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope — it’s 
still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of bucks off of 
the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother to include the 
slow ethernet ports at all.

(In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most 
modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from Cox 
and CenturyLink.)

I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a product 
like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg ethernet ports?

Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range 
Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire into 
it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.

To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870 Mbps. 
The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.

With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750 Mbps 
DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via the wired 
connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the older one from 
2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)

And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two Mac 
Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old one via 
Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do that over 
WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the wired connection, 
it’s quite reasonable.

BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet bill 
by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a couple of 
internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).

T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and has 
fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend it. Just … 
if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast WAP/Range 
Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.

-David Schwartz




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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss]

I guess that I should clarify that my current device is the round Nokia device. 
It has 2x ethernet ports on it. I’ve had it for around 2 years now.

The new one I got was their newest squarish one, the SAGEMCOM FAST 5688W 5G 
Gateway. It only has one ethernet port on it and I only got 93 Mbps DL from it.

I sent it back because it has no way to access anything inside of it. (TBH, the 
Nokia isn’t much better.)

T-Mo is doing all they can to make these simple appliances with “no 
user-serviceable features” inside. If you like tweaking stuff, their 5G 
gateways are NOT for you.

They do have another one. Which one do you have?

-David Schwartz




> On Aug 18, 2022, at 10:25 PM, Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The device I received from them has a single 1 gig port which I have a 16 
> port gig switch plugged in and everything is connected with Cat 6.  I've seen 
> up to 800 Mbps.
> 
> Daniel P. Stasinski
> dan...@genericinbox.com 
> ✞ Jesus Is King ✞
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really 
> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says it 
> has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case anybody 
> else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to connect, I’ve 
> solved the speed dilemma.
> 
> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying 
> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be 
> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
> 
> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once 
> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope — 
> it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of bucks 
> off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother to 
> include the slow ethernet ports at all.
> 
> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most 
> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from 
> Cox and CenturyLink.)
> 
> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a product 
> like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg ethernet ports?
> 
> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range 
> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire into 
> it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
> 
> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870 Mbps. 
> The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps. 
> 
> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750 Mbps 
> DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via the 
> wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the older one 
> from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
> 
> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two Mac 
> Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old one via 
> Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do that over 
> WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the wired 
> connection, it’s quite reasonable.
> 
> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet 
> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a 
> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
> 
> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and has 
> fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend it. Just 
> … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast WAP/Range 
> Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss]

I don't know the path you're taking to test the speed, but if one of the
devices on that path is 100. Meg and the modem is one gig. Then you only
going to get 100 Meg when you test the speed. Try doing the trace route
when you do the test so you know which cards are being used.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 9:49 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> I wouldn’t be getting 700 Mbps with the WAP/Range Extender then (insted of
> 92), would I?
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really
>> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says
>> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case
>> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to
>> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>>
>> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying
>> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be
>> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>>
>> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once
>> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope
>> — it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of
>> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother
>> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>>
>> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most
>> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from
>> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>>
>> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a
>> product like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg
>> ethernet ports?
>>
>> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range
>> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire
>> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>>
>> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870
>> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps.
>>
>> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750
>> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via
>> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the
>> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>>
>> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two
>> Mac Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old
>> one via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do
>> that over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the
>> wired connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>>
>> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV +
>> Internet bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo)
>> and a couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>>
>> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and
>> has fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend
>> it. Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast
>> WAP/Range Extender to act as a LAN-to-WiFi bridge.
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
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Re: T-Mobile Home Internet via ethernet connection tip

[David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss]

I have exactly two Mac Minis and a switch — all of which have 1 gig ethernet 
ports, and CAT6 cables.

I also plugged my Mac Book Pro directly into the gateway with a USB3 —> 1GB 
ethernet adapter on a 12” CAT6 cable and it maxed-out at 92 Mbps.

They ALL hit OVER 150 Mbps with the same ethernet cable plugged into the RE550 
rather than the T-Mo gateway. If anything on that wire were limited to 100 
megs, then there’s no way I’d get 150+ or 750+ Mbps through the RE550.

FWIW, I made the mistake of ordering another device that had AC1200 WiFi but 
the description SAID “high-speed ethernet” but never said it was 1GB. When I 
got it and set it up, guess what I found? Same hardware on my end only got 92 
Mbps through that device! I did some digging and found out the manufacturer 
makes it really hard to find out that their “high-speed ethernet” port is in 
fact a 100 Mbps port, NOT 1GB. (Plenty of others call their “N300” WiFi 
“high-speed WiFi as well”. Go figure.) I sent it back and got the RE550 because 
it clearly states it DOES have a 1GB ethernet port. 

Again, the fact that I can get OVER 150 Mbps from the ethernet wire plugged 
into the RE550 but only 92 Mbps with the same ethernet wire plugged into the 
T-Mo gateway is pretty telling.

It’s NOT my hardware.

-David Schwartz




> On Aug 18, 2022, at 11:08 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't know the path you're taking to test the speed, but if one of the 
> devices on that path is 100. Meg and the modem is one gig. Then you only 
> going to get 100 Meg when you test the speed. Try doing the trace route when 
> you do the test so you know which cards are being used.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 9:49 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> I wouldn’t be getting 700 Mbps with the WAP/Range Extender then (insted of 
> 92), would I?
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 18, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you sure it's not your nic or a switch on your network that's 100mb ?
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 8:57 PM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> I dunno if anybody here has T-Mobile Home Internet, but I do and I really 
>> like it. I only have one beef: the spec sheet for their modem/gateway says 
>> it has 2x 1 gigabit ethernet ports, but they’re only 100 Megs. In case 
>> anybody else might want to consider them as an ISP and has a 1GB LAN to 
>> connect, I’ve solved the speed dilemma.
>> 
>> First off, I’ve been round and round with their tech support folks lying 
>> about it for two years, and was recently told that they were going to be 
>> releasing a new device soon and it def. WOULD have 1 Gb ports.
>> 
>> Well, they announced a new one (two, actually), and I got one and … once 
>> again the spec sheet SAYS 1 gigabit ethernet but the performance says nope — 
>> it’s still only 100 megs. WTF? I guess this lets them shave a couple of 
>> bucks off of the hardware cost. Actually, I’m not even sure why they bother 
>> to include the slow ethernet ports at all.
>> 
>> (In a way this is really quite amusing, because prior to this, most 
>> modem/gateways have crappy WiFi and speedy ethernet — especially those from 
>> Cox and CenturyLink.)
>> 
>> I don’t know how a big company like T-Mo gets away misrepresenting a product 
>> like this for so long. Why can’t they just SAY they’re 100 meg ethernet 
>> ports?
>> 
>> Anyway, I finally got fed-up and bought a TP-Link RE550 AC1900 WAP/Range 
>> Extender and configured it so I can plug my local 1 GB ethernet LAN wire 
>> into it and connect to the T-Mo gateway via WiFi.
>> 
>> To be sure, the T-Mo gateway’s WiFi is FAST! I’ve seen speeds up to 870 
>> Mbps. The ethernet, OTOH, never exceeds 93 Mbps. 
>> 
>> With the RE550 plugged in, my Mac minis connected to the LAN now get 750 
>> Mbps DL and 78 Mbps UL. WHOA! That’s 5x DL and 2x UL faster than I got via 
>> the wired connection. (Actually, the newer 2018 Mac Mini gets that; the 
>> older one from 2014 only gets 180 Mbps DL and 65 Mbps UL.)
>> 
>> And in case anybody is wondering why I use a wired LAN, it’s so the two Mac 
>> Minis can talk. I have the new one configured so I can access the old one 
>> via Screen Sharing on a dedicated Space (virtual desktop). When I do that 
>> over WiFi, the connection is intolerably slow for me; but with the wired 
>> connection, it’s quite reasonable.
>> 
>> BTW, I dropped Cox a couple of years back and cut my monthly TV + Internet 
>> bill by quite a bit by switching to T-Mo’s Home Internet ($50/mo) and a 
>> couple of internet channels (Discovery+ and Philo).
>> 
>> T-Mo’s Home Internet has been far more stable, consistently faster, and has 
>> fewer dropouts than any other ISP I’ve ever used. I highly recommend it. 
>> Just … if you need to connect a wired LAN, get something like a fast 
>> WAP/Range Extender to ac