On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 July 2014 18:45:41 John Layt wrote:
> > On 7 July 2014 10:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2014 at 10:36:00AM +0100, John Layt wrote:
> > >> Co-installabilty of Plasma 4 and Plasma 5 with minimal work required
> > >> by the distros is a must if we want to avoid the mess of KDE4.
> > >> Already openSUSE has announced that you can't have both installed at
> > >> once, which will force people to choose one or other, when what we
> > >> really want is for them to be able to try Plasma 5 out while still
> > >> being able to switch back to 4 if there are things that break their
> > >> workflow.
> > >
> > > They won't be co-installable just as konsole won't be co-installable
> > > with its kdelibs4 version, it's a new version of the same programme.
> > > But the parts that are used by applications, libraries and runtime
> > > parts need to be co-installable so kdelibs4 and kf5 applications can
> > > be installed on the same system.
> >
> > Hmmm, well that's not quite what I was expecting, I was hoping to be
> > able to install them in parallel and test it out while keeping my old
> > desktop safe, like I can install and try Gnome or Unity or XFCE. I
> > don't expect to have parallel installs of apps though, the latest
> > version should just run under any desktop. No Plasma 5 for me then
> > until a couple more releases and it's stabilised :-\
>
> A few random thoughts:
> * some parts (e.g. KWin) are co-installable and can be used in a kde4
> session
> * some distros (e.g. openSUSE) offer the possibility to easily switch, you
> can
> go back to a kde4 session
> * stability is way better than you would think. I cannot remember when I
> had
> the last crash of plasmashell of kwin_x11 and I'm not restarting all those
> parts every few minutes (e.g. today I neither restarted plasmashell or
> kwin_x11 as I was working on different stuff)
>
> So I'd say: give it a try if your distro offers a forward and backward
> path. If
> your distro doesn't offer such a path, nag ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Martin
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Also IIRC Kubuntu's Project Neon offers a safe way to test Plasma 5.
Between Kubuntu and Suse, I think we're pretty covered here.
- James
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