[PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config and modules, with opcache enabled. However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: Linux: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : Linux -- test_math : 1.677 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. test_loops: 0.910 sec. test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. -- Total time: : 4.969 sec. Windows: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : WINNT -- test_math : 2.516 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. test_loops: 1.516 sec. test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. -- Total time: : 10.11 sec. The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more experience advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do anything in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux on that box but it's not up to me.
Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
I might be wrong, but if you are using nts it means you are using IIS, try ts with apache and compare results. In my personal experience, PHP runs slower on IIS because it uses it as CGI. Let us know how it goes. Jorge_. On Sep 7, 2013 12:15 PM, "Paul Roland" wrote: > Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. > I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one > running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. > Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config and > modules, with opcache enabled. > > However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: > > Linux: > > PHP version : 5.5.3 > Platform : Linux > -- > test_math : 1.677 sec. > test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. > test_loops: 0.910 sec. > test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. > -- > Total time: : 4.969 sec. > > Windows: > > PHP version : 5.5.3 > Platform : WINNT > -- > test_math : 2.516 sec. > test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. > test_loops: 1.516 sec. > test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. > -- > Total time: : 10.11 sec. > > > The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more experience > advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? > Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. > > I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do > anything > in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux on > that > box but it's not up to me. > > > >
Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
This is actually better than the benchmarks I published a while back. I was seeing 3 or 4 times difference. Identical hardware, duel boot off the same hard disk. Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: Paul Roland To: php-install@lists.php.net Sent: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 17:15 Subject: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux. Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config and modules, with opcache enabled. However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: Linux: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : Linux -- test_math : 1.677 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. test_loops: 0.910 sec. test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. -- Total time: : 4.969 sec. Windows: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : WINNT -- test_math : 2.516 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. test_loops: 1.516 sec. test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. -- Total time: : 10.11 sec. The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more experience advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do anything in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux on that box but it's not up to me.
Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
Yes Jorge sounds right to me. The Apache PHP module is compiled to work as part of the Apache web server, whereas PHP running on IIS is external, hence can only be used as a CGI script. Microsoft don't give us the source code to IIS to allow PHP to be compiled as an IIS server module like Apache does. Have you tried to use the Windows version of Apache and see if PHP compiled into that version works quicker? Kind Regards, Keith Roberts On Sat, 7 Sep 2013, Jorge Hernandez wrote: To: Paul Roland From: Jorge Hernandez Subject: Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux. I might be wrong, but if you are using nts it means you are using IIS, try ts with apache and compare results. In my personal experience, PHP runs slower on IIS because it uses it as CGI. Let us know how it goes. Jorge_. On Sep 7, 2013 12:15 PM, "Paul Roland" wrote: Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config and modules, with opcache enabled. However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: Linux: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : Linux -- test_math : 1.677 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. test_loops: 0.910 sec. test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. -- Total time: : 4.969 sec. Windows: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : WINNT -- test_math : 2.516 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. test_loops: 1.516 sec. test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. -- Total time: : 10.11 sec. The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more experience advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do anything in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux on that box but it's not up to me. -- --- Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] ---
Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
What about the fact that php can run as cgi/fcgi with apache? On 9/8/13, Keith Roberts wrote: > Yes Jorge sounds right to me. > > The Apache PHP module is compiled to work as part of the > Apache web server, whereas PHP running on IIS is external, > hence can only be used as a CGI script. > > Microsoft don't give us the source code to IIS to allow PHP > to be compiled as an IIS server module like Apache does. > > Have you tried to use the Windows version of Apache and see > if PHP compiled into that version works quicker? > > Kind Regards, > > Keith Roberts > > > On Sat, 7 Sep 2013, Jorge Hernandez wrote: > >> To: Paul Roland >> From: Jorge Hernandez >> Subject: Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and >> linux. >> >> I might be wrong, but if you are using nts it means you are using IIS, >> try >> ts with apache and compare results. >> >> In my personal experience, PHP runs slower on IIS because it uses it as >> CGI. >> >> Let us know how it goes. >> >> Jorge_. >> On Sep 7, 2013 12:15 PM, "Paul Roland" wrote: >> >>> Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. >>> I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one >>> running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. >>> Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config >>> and >>> modules, with opcache enabled. >>> >>> However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: >>> >>> Linux: >>> >>> PHP version : 5.5.3 >>> Platform : Linux >>> -- >>> test_math : 1.677 sec. >>> test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. >>> test_loops: 0.910 sec. >>> test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. >>> -- >>> Total time: : 4.969 sec. >>> >>> Windows: >>> >>> PHP version : 5.5.3 >>> Platform : WINNT >>> -- >>> test_math : 2.516 sec. >>> test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. >>> test_loops: 1.516 sec. >>> test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. >>> -- >>> Total time: : 10.11 sec. >>> >>> >>> The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more >>> experience >>> advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? >>> Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. >>> >>> I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do >>> anything >>> in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux >>> on >>> that >>> box but it's not up to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > --- > Websites: > http://www.karsites.net > http://www.php-debuggers.net > http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk > > All email addresses are challenge-response protected with > TMDA [http://tmda.net] > --- > -- Regards, Daniel Fenn
Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux.
Of course. But does PHP not run the *fastest as a compiled-in apache module, which is what I thought the OP was looking for? Kind Regards, Keith On Sun, 8 Sep 2013, Daniel wrote: To: Keith Roberts From: Daniel Subject: Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux. What about the fact that php can run as cgi/fcgi with apache? On 9/8/13, Keith Roberts wrote: Yes Jorge sounds right to me. The Apache PHP module is compiled to work as part of the Apache web server, whereas PHP running on IIS is external, hence can only be used as a CGI script. Microsoft don't give us the source code to IIS to allow PHP to be compiled as an IIS server module like Apache does. Have you tried to use the Windows version of Apache and see if PHP compiled into that version works quicker? Kind Regards, Keith Roberts On Sat, 7 Sep 2013, Jorge Hernandez wrote: To: Paul Roland From: Jorge Hernandez Subject: Re: [PHP-INSTALL] huge performance diff between windows and linux. I might be wrong, but if you are using nts it means you are using IIS, try ts with apache and compare results. In my personal experience, PHP runs slower on IIS because it uses it as CGI. Let us know how it goes. Jorge_. On Sep 7, 2013 12:15 PM, "Paul Roland" wrote: Hey I have an issue and I ran out of ideas. I have two virtual servers, one running debian with compiled php and one running server 2008 with php non thread safe version. Both have 5.5.3 version installed and both have almoust the same config and modules, with opcache enabled. However I ran the benchmark script found online and I get this values: Linux: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : Linux -- test_math : 1.677 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 1.625 sec. test_loops: 0.910 sec. test_ifelse : 0.757 sec. -- Total time: : 4.969 sec. Windows: PHP version : 5.5.3 Platform : WINNT -- test_math : 2.516 sec. test_stringmanipulation : 5.297 sec. test_loops: 1.516 sec. test_ifelse : 0.781 sec. -- Total time: : 10.11 sec. The question is am I missing something? can somebody with more experience advise me what to setup on php or iis to improve this? Not to mention that the windows server has double amount of ram and cpu. I know I know I should blame Microsoft but even so I doubt THEY can do anything in this setup. So I doing my best on my own, I would love to have Linux on that box but it's not up to me. -- --- Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] --- -- --- Websites: http://www.karsites.net http://www.php-debuggers.net http://www.raised-from-the-dead.org.uk All email addresses are challenge-response protected with TMDA [http://tmda.net] ---
