Re: [PHP] The 'at' sign (@) variable prefix

[Aschwin Wesselius]

Jochem Maas wrote:

mike schreef:
  

 Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I will get an error, but if I prefix the value with '@',

[EMAIL PROTECTED]"q"];


   The @ is an error control operator, used to buffer the output and
store it in a variable - $php_errormsg.
  
   It's better to write clean, secure code, of course but

sometimes error control is a good thing, too.
  

why not just use:
$query = isset($_GET['q']) ? $_GET['q'] : '';

that way it's always set.

or even better (what I recommend):
$query = filter_input(INPUT_GET, 'q', FILTER_SANITIZE_STRING);

and get an empty string or a sanitized string, depending on if something exists.




Mike's ways are both better than suppressing the error not only because error
suppression in general sucks but because it's actually less performant to 
trigger
this kind of error.
  

I second that. The @ symbol actually does this:

@action();

Becomes:

$old = ini_set(“error_reporting”, 0);
action();
ini_set(“error_reporting”, $old);

So, if you put that a hundred times all over your code, the errors might 
be suppressed but your app is slow too.


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Re: [PHP] How to use MySQL queries...?

[Richard Heyes]

> Is there any big difference to use PROPEL or any other ORM mapping
> against basic
> functions provided by MySQL Extension...?

If it's MySQL you're looking to optimise, then you could also try
asking on the MySQL discussion list. On the PHP side, the MySQL
functions are long-winded at best, try simple abstraction. This could
be as simple as using a small object or set of functions that does a
lot of the grunt work for, eg:

$results = $db->getAll("SELECT * FROM mysql.user");

Much quicker to write than the equivalent using the PHP functions.
This does also make switching to another db far easier.

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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Richard Heyes]

> I am trying real hard to write clean code...

Print it out and stick it in the washing machine... :-)

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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Stut]

On 7 Oct 2008, at 12:48, Jason Pruim wrote:


On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Stut wrote:


On 7 Oct 2008, at 12:38, Jason Pruim wrote:
I am trying to track down an error and can't seem to figure it  
out... Here is the error out of my log:


[Tue Oct  7 07:31:43 2008] [error] PHP Warning:  date() expects  
parameter 2 to be long, string given in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/ 
Documents/dev/stimecard/timecard.php on line 57



Here is line 57:

$timeout = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timeout']);


And the info that is trying to grab from the database is:

+++---++---+
| timein | timeout| empID | record | Name  |
+++---++---+
| 1222354037 | 1222382837 | 1 |107 | Jason Pruim   |
+++---++---+

Now... the error only happens on line 57... On line 56 there is  
the same command except: $timein = date("m/d/y h:i:s A",  
$row['timein']);


And that doesn't cause any errors so I'm at a bit of a loss as to  
what to do? I know I can redirect the warning to an error message,  
but I don't want to do that... I am trying real hard to write  
clean code... And this is my last error...


It's a total cosmetic thing since it still displays everything  
right...


Any ideas? :)


Do a var_dump($row['timeout']) on the line before the one giving  
the warning to check that it contains what you think it does.



Hey Stut,

Thanks for the quick response... You were right... I did a var_dump  
both on $row['timein'] and $row['timeout'] and the error was because  
of the way that I update the records. for time in, I insert a new  
record, for time out, I update the record where timeout= NULL and  
THAT is what was causing the issue... I guess I can just redirect  
that error, ignore it, or come up with a different way to update the  
current record without having to use NULL, or maybe, write a timeout  
timestamp for like midnight on January 1 1955 or something like  
that...


Try "is null" rather than "= null".

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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Stut]

On 7 Oct 2008, at 12:38, Jason Pruim wrote:
I am trying to track down an error and can't seem to figure it  
out... Here is the error out of my log:


[Tue Oct  7 07:31:43 2008] [error] PHP Warning:  date() expects  
parameter 2 to be long, string given in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/ 
Documents/dev/stimecard/timecard.php on line 57



Here is line 57:

$timeout = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timeout']);


And the info that is trying to grab from the database is:

+++---++---+
| timein | timeout| empID | record | Name  |
+++---++---+
| 1222354037 | 1222382837 | 1 |107 | Jason Pruim   |
+++---++---+

Now... the error only happens on line 57... On line 56 there is the  
same command except: $timein = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timein']);


And that doesn't cause any errors so I'm at a bit of a loss as to  
what to do? I know I can redirect the warning to an error message,  
but I don't want to do that... I am trying real hard to write clean  
code... And this is my last error...


It's a total cosmetic thing since it still displays everything  
right...


Any ideas? :)


Do a var_dump($row['timeout']) on the line before the one giving the  
warning to check that it contains what you think it does.


-Stut

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Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

[uaca man]

Farid,

I like to use PRADO(www.pradosoft.com), it is very easy to use for
those who are coming from Microsoft .Net platform as it uses the same
architecture. I did not like symfony, too much to read before the
first example.

Angelo

2008/10/6 farid lópez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> what is your framework??? uacaman.
>
> i'm using symfony, but i'm reading the book. it's hard but there are so many
> things you can do easily with symfony!
>
> 2008/10/7 uaca man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> To be or not to be dump it your choice.
>>
>> My framework it not just awesome it is super awesome.
>>
>> Angelo
>>
>> 2008/10/6 Dan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> But... Which framework is better? :P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Oh my.. now we're gonna get all those guys popping back up telling us how
>> > dumb we are and how awesome their frameworks are again!
>> >
>> > --
>> > -Dan Joseph
>> >
>> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
>> >
>> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
>> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
>> >
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Re: [PHP] How to use MySQL queries...?

[Jignesh Thummar]

>>And is there any effective way to calculate the statistics of comparison
of
>>query execution timings..

For query execution statistics, you need to log slow queries. To do so,
enable following two directives in my.cnf file

long_query_time = 2
log-slow-queries = /var/log/mysql/mysql_slow_query.log

This configuration will log all queries that take more than 2 sec in the
file /var/log/mysql/mysql_slow_query.log


And monitor the logs.

Parsing the logs from human eyes is bit trivial. You can user this
http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/files/utils/mysql_slow_log_parser perl
script to parse slow-queries.

- Jignesh

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Is there any big difference to use PROPEL or any other ORM mapping
> > against basic
> > functions provided by MySQL Extension...?
>
> If it's MySQL you're looking to optimise, then you could also try
> asking on the MySQL discussion list. On the PHP side, the MySQL
> functions are long-winded at best, try simple abstraction. This could
> be as simple as using a small object or set of functions that does a
> lot of the grunt work for, eg:
>
> $results = $db->getAll("SELECT * FROM mysql.user");
>
> Much quicker to write than the equivalent using the PHP functions.
> This does also make switching to another db far easier.
>
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[PHP] Re: The 'at' sign (@) variable prefix

["Crash" Dummy]

>> mike schreef:

>>> Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> wrote:

> I will get an error, but if I prefix the value with '@',

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]"q"];

 The @ is an error control operator, used to buffer the output
 and store it in a variable - $php_errormsg.   It's better to
 write clean, secure code, of course but sometimes error
 control is a good thing, too.  why not just use:
>>> $query = isset($_GET['q']) ? $_GET['q'] : '';

>>> that way it's always set.

>>> or even better (what I recommend):
>>> $query = filter_input(INPUT_GET, 'q', FILTER_SANITIZE_STRING);

>>> and get an empty string or a sanitized string, depending on if
>>> something exists.

>> Mike's ways are both better than suppressing the error not only
>> because error suppression in general sucks but because it's
>> actually less performant to trigger this kind of error.

> I second that. The @ symbol actually does this:

> @action();

> Becomes:

> $old = ini_set("error_reporting", 0);
> action();
> ini_set("error_reporting", $old);

> So, if you put that a hundred times all over your code, the errors
> might be suppressed but your app is slow too.

Thank you all. As I said, I learned this by osmosis, applying other
people's code. I am not fluent in PHP. That is why I wanted a
reference in the documents. I do not sprinkle the @ symbol through my
code to avoid careful construction, I used it in a specific instance
to deal with an empty query string, over which I had no control. I
will study the alternatives offered here and do some recoding.
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Re: [PHP] Required files not being parsed properly...

[Jim Lucas]

Eric Butera wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Stephen Johnson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK .. I am upgrading to PHP5 on a clients box, and  after doing so I have
>> run into the problem that files that get brought in by a require statement,
>> or include, end up just getting dumped to the browser as text..
>>
>> For instance :
>>
>> require("/home/tnr/incs/tnr_db.php");
>> $db = new mysql();
>>
>> Produces what you see here :
>>
>> http://www.thumbnailresume.com/index.html?allow=1
>>
>> Any one have any thoughts on what is going on?
>>
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>>
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>> fax: 562.278.0133
>>
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>>
>> http://www.fortheloveofgeeks.com
>> I¹m a geek and I¹m OK!
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> $user_id = $_COOKIE['user_id'];
>   
> $logFile = "/home/tnr/query_logs/tnr.".$user_id.".query.log";
> 
> uh oh...

Did you scare the OP or something?  The page isn't available any longer... :)

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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[tedd]

At 1:08 PM +0100 10/7/08, Stut wrote:

On 7 Oct 2008, at 12:48, Jason Pruim wrote:
Thanks for the quick response... You were right... I did a var_dump 
both on $row['timein'] and $row['timeout'] and the error was 
because of the way that I update the records. for time in, I insert 
a new record, for time out, I update the record where timeout= NULL 
and THAT is what was causing the issue... I guess I can just 
redirect that error, ignore it, or come up with a different way to 
update the current record without having to use NULL, or maybe, 
write a timeout timestamp for like midnight on January 1 1955 or 
something like that...


Try "is null" rather than "= null".

-Stut


Yes, if I remember correctly, NULL is a different critter for MySQL 
as compared to php. You can't directly test (i.e., make comparisons) 
for it like you can in php.


As far as updating the time of the record, why not use current date 
or 1/1/1970 -- the beginning of the world according to Unix. You 
never know if you might have to update your dB to Unix time at some 
time in the future.


Cheers,

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Re: [PHP] Required files not being parsed properly...

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Jim Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eric Butera wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Stephen Johnson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> OK .. I am upgrading to PHP5 on a clients box, and  after doing so I have
>>> run into the problem that files that get brought in by a require statement,
>>> or include, end up just getting dumped to the browser as text..
>>>
>>> For instance :
>>>
>>> require("/home/tnr/incs/tnr_db.php");
>>> $db = new mysql();
>>>
>>> Produces what you see here :
>>>
>>> http://www.thumbnailresume.com/index.html?allow=1
>>>
>>> Any one have any thoughts on what is going on?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Johnson c | eh
>>> The Lone Coder
>>>
>>> office:  562.366.4433
>>> fax: 562.278.0133
>>>
>>> http://www.thelonecoder.com
>>> continuing the struggle against bad code
>>>
>>> http://www.fortheloveofgeeks.com
>>> I¹m a geek and I¹m OK!
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> $user_id = $_COOKIE['user_id'];
>>
>> $logFile = "/home/tnr/query_logs/tnr.".$user_id.".query.log";
>>
>> uh oh...
>
> Did you scare the OP or something?  The page isn't available any longer... :)
>
> --
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>
>   "Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness,
>   and some have greatness thrust upon them."
>
> Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V
>by William Shakespeare
>
>

I hope not, but I also hope it's fixed.  After sending that I kicked
myself since it should have been off-list.  ;)

Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Jason Pruim]

On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Stut wrote:


On 7 Oct 2008, at 12:38, Jason Pruim wrote:
I am trying to track down an error and can't seem to figure it  
out... Here is the error out of my log:


[Tue Oct  7 07:31:43 2008] [error] PHP Warning:  date() expects  
parameter 2 to be long, string given in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/ 
Documents/dev/stimecard/timecard.php on line 57



Here is line 57:

$timeout = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timeout']);


And the info that is trying to grab from the database is:

+++---++---+
| timein | timeout| empID | record | Name  |
+++---++---+
| 1222354037 | 1222382837 | 1 |107 | Jason Pruim   |
+++---++---+

Now... the error only happens on line 57... On line 56 there is the  
same command except: $timein = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timein']);


And that doesn't cause any errors so I'm at a bit of a loss as to  
what to do? I know I can redirect the warning to an error message,  
but I don't want to do that... I am trying real hard to write clean  
code... And this is my last error...


It's a total cosmetic thing since it still displays everything  
right...


Any ideas? :)


Do a var_dump($row['timeout']) on the line before the one giving the  
warning to check that it contains what you think it does.



Hey Stut,

Thanks for the quick response... You were right... I did a var_dump  
both on $row['timein'] and $row['timeout'] and the error was because  
of the way that I update the records. for time in, I insert a new  
record, for time out, I update the record where timeout= NULL and THAT  
is what was causing the issue... I guess I can just redirect that  
error, ignore it, or come up with a different way to update the  
current record without having to use NULL, or maybe, write a timeout  
timestamp for like midnight on January 1 1955 or something like that...


Thanks again Stut!


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[PHP] Question about date()

[Jason Pruim]

Good morning all!

I am trying to track down an error and can't seem to figure it out...  
Here is the error out of my log:


[Tue Oct  7 07:31:43 2008] [error] PHP Warning:  date() expects  
parameter 2 to be long, string given in /Volumes/RAIDer/webserver/ 
Documents/dev/stimecard/timecard.php on line 57



Here is line 57:

$timeout = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timeout']);


And the info that is trying to grab from the database is:

+++---++---+
| timein | timeout| empID | record | Name  |
+++---++---+
| 1222354037 | 1222382837 | 1 |107 | Jason Pruim   |
+++---++---+

Now... the error only happens on line 57... On line 56 there is the  
same command except: $timein = date("m/d/y h:i:s A", $row['timein']);


And that doesn't cause any errors so I'm at a bit of a loss as to what  
to do? I know I can redirect the warning to an error message, but I  
don't want to do that... I am trying real hard to write clean code...  
And this is my last error...


It's a total cosmetic thing since it still displays everything right...

Any ideas? :)


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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Jason Pruim]

On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Richard Heyes wrote:


I am trying real hard to write clean code...


Print it out and stick it in the washing machine... :-)


The way I used to write code I'd have to soak it in bleach for a week  
before having a chance of it coming out clean! :P



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[PHP] How to use MySQL queries...?

[Hemant Patel]

Hello  All, I am here with one more doubt
Now I want to minimize my response time for a query..Can anybody tell me
...,

Is there any big difference to use PROPEL or any other ORM mapping
against basic
functions provided by MySQL Extension...?
And is there any effective way to calculate the statistics of comparison of
query execution timings...?

With Regards,
Hemant Patel

Re: [PHP] $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"] returning ::1

[Stut]

Please keep the discussion on the list.

On 7 Oct 2008, at 06:11, David Rocks wrote:
 Your work around worked fine for me but I just had some time to  
revisit this and wanted to see how hard it would be to rewrite this  
test. But I ran into a question. The test that was failing compared  
the clients IP address. It looks like transparent proxies are used  
for caching web server pages and shouldn't affect this test. I saw  
the problem because I was accessing the web server locally via  
localhost. What technology would raise the possibility that a remote  
clients IP address wouldn't be the same from one access of the web  
server to another?


Proxies do not necessarily cache web pages - this is an optional  
feature of the technology. At the most basic level in most  
implementations they provide a protected bridge between two networks.


Proxies can be implemented as shared clusters such that any request  
going through the cluster could appear to come from one of a number of  
IPs (i.e. the client is not tied to a single proxy appliance). In this  
instance you cannot rely on a client always coming from the same IP.


In addition it's pretty standard practice for a lot of ISPs to have  
relatively short leases on their IP pool. This means that a client  
could move between different IPs between requests. This is unlikely  
however because I believe most ISPs will do everything they can to  
issue a connection with the same IP when the lease expires but it's  
not something you can rely on.


In any case you cannot rely on the user not disconnecting their laptop  
from a wired connection and then connecting to a wireless connection  
that runs through a different router. This would also change their IP.


At the end of the day it's well understood that IP addresses should  
not be used for authentication or continuity purposes. I've not come  
across a session implementation that uses them for a very long time.


-Stut

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Stut wrote:

On 18 Sep 2008, at 16:37, David Rocks wrote:

Stut wrote:

On 18 Sep 2008, at 05:57, David Rocks wrote:
 I am running a test PHP web app on my local machine that uses  
REMOTE_ADDR and most of the time ::1 is returned as the IP addr  
and sometimes it is 127.0.0.1 . I am on OS X 10.5.5 and using  
APACHE 2. PHPINFO always returns ::1 for REMOTE_ADDR. Is this a  
PHP or a APACHE 2 thing?
It's coming from Apache and is correct. ::1 is the same as  
127.0.0.1 in IPv6. Which you get will depend on how you request  
the page and how your DNS/hosts file is set up. Request it with  
an IPv6 domain/IP and REMOTE_ADDR will also be IPv6.
You should be able to disable IPv6 in your system settings, but  
from a future-proof point of view you should be able to handle  
both.

-Stut
  This app uses this test to insure that the page being processed  
came from the same machine as was used to login to the app. The  
app is intended for broad use so I can't control the use of IPv6.  
Is localhost the only case where the value returned might have  
different values? Can you point to a reference where I might  
figure out a better future proof test?


Using the IP is not a reliable way to check for this. Some ISPs use  
transparent proxies which can cause each subsequent request to come  
from a different IP, regardless of whether it's v4 or v6. You'd be  
better off using a cookie, although that would be a bit less secure.


If you really need to use IP then you can probably rely on it not  
switching between v4 and v6 if you're not using localhost. For  
testing use the machine's real IP or hostname instead of localhost  
and this problem should disappear.


-Stut




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Re: [PHP] Required files not being parsed properly...

[Stephen Johnson]

Hey hey hey ... LOL  This is all VERY old code...I admit that...

The site needed to be closed since it was completely broken.

I figured out the reason .. The new php.ini file had the use short tags
turned off... So I turned that on and it works now.




On 10/7/08 7:32 AM, "Jim Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eric Butera wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Stephen Johnson
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> OK .. I am upgrading to PHP5 on a clients box, and  after doing so I have
>>> run into the problem that files that get brought in by a require statement,
>>> or include, end up just getting dumped to the browser as text..
>>> 
>>> For instance :
>>> 
>>> require("/home/tnr/incs/tnr_db.php");
>>> $db = new mysql();
>>> 
>>> Produces what you see here :
>>> 
>>> http://www.thumbnailresume.com/index.html?allow=1
>>> 
>>> Any one have any thoughts on what is going on?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Stephen Johnson c | eh
>>> The Lone Coder
>>> 
>>> office:  562.366.4433
>>> fax: 562.278.0133
>>> 
>>> http://www.thelonecoder.com
>>> continuing the struggle against bad code
>>> 
>>> http://www.fortheloveofgeeks.com
>>> I¹m a geek and I¹m OK!
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> $user_id = $_COOKIE['user_id'];
>> 
>> $logFile = "/home/tnr/query_logs/tnr.".$user_id.".query.log";
>> 
>> uh oh...
> 
> Did you scare the OP or something?  The page isn't available any longer... :)

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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Ashley Sheridan]

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 07:54 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote:
> On Oct 7, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Richard Heyes wrote:
> 
> >> I am trying real hard to write clean code...
> >
> > Print it out and stick it in the washing machine... :-)
> 
> The way I used to write code I'd have to soak it in bleach for a week  
> before having a chance of it coming out clean! :P
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Believe it or not, I've actually done that before... I had a load of
code backed up onto a USB pen drive, forgot it was in my pocket, and put
my jeans in the wash. Luckily for me it all still worked afterwards!


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Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

[Ashley Sheridan]

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:20 -0300, uaca man wrote:
> Farid,
> 
> I like to use PRADO(www.pradosoft.com), it is very easy to use for
> those who are coming from Microsoft .Net platform as it uses the same
> architecture. I did not like symfony, too much to read before the
> first example.
> 
> Angelo
> 
> 2008/10/6 farid lópez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > what is your framework??? uacaman.
> >
> > i'm using symfony, but i'm reading the book. it's hard but there are so many
> > things you can do easily with symfony!
> >
> > 2008/10/7 uaca man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> To be or not to be dump it your choice.
> >>
> >> My framework it not just awesome it is super awesome.
> >>
> >> Angelo
> >>
> >> 2008/10/6 Dan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> But... Which framework is better? :P
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Oh my.. now we're gonna get all those guys popping back up telling us how
> >> > dumb we are and how awesome their frameworks are again!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -Dan Joseph
> >> >
> >> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
> >> >
> >> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
> >> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Atte
> > Farid H. López Durán
> >
> > "La naturaleza del hombre es tal que puede conseguir la perfección
> > únicamente cuando
> > trabaja para el bienestar y la dignidad de sus conciudadanos".  Karl Marx
> >
> 
Don't frameworks introduce a lot more overhead to projects though?


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Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Richard Heyes]

> Luckily for me it all still worked afterwards!

The pen drive or the code? :-)

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Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

[Larry Garfield]

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:47:54 +0100, Ashley Sheridan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't frameworks introduce a lot more overhead to projects though?
> 
> 
> Ash
> www.ashleysheridan.co.uk

Any generic code library adds overhead.  How much and whether or not it's 
acceptable depends on the framework and on your use case. In *most* use cases, 
PHP execution time is not your bottleneck.  Disk IO, database traffic, and 
network traffic are a much bigger problem.  If you can, throw an Opcode cache 
at it (whether it's a framework or not) to get a nice speed boost.

I find I produce much better quality results with much less effort when using a 
good framework than when writing from scratch.

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Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

[Eric Butera]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Ashley Sheridan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:20 -0300, uaca man wrote:
>> Farid,
>>
>> I like to use PRADO(www.pradosoft.com), it is very easy to use for
>> those who are coming from Microsoft .Net platform as it uses the same
>> architecture. I did not like symfony, too much to read before the
>> first example.
>>
>> Angelo
>>
>> 2008/10/6 farid lópez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > what is your framework??? uacaman.
>> >
>> > i'm using symfony, but i'm reading the book. it's hard but there are so 
>> > many
>> > things you can do easily with symfony!
>> >
>> > 2008/10/7 uaca man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >> To be or not to be dump it your choice.
>> >>
>> >> My framework it not just awesome it is super awesome.
>> >>
>> >> Angelo
>> >>
>> >> 2008/10/6 Dan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But... Which framework is better? :P
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > Oh my.. now we're gonna get all those guys popping back up telling us 
>> >> > how
>> >> > dumb we are and how awesome their frameworks are again!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > -Dan Joseph
>> >> >
>> >> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
>> >> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>> > Farid H. López Durán
>> >
>> > "La naturaleza del hombre es tal que puede conseguir la perfección
>> > únicamente cuando
>> > trabaja para el bienestar y la dignidad de sus conciudadanos".  Karl Marx
>> >
>>
> Don't frameworks introduce a lot more overhead to projects though?
>
>
> Ashhttp://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/php-general/11975743c3279e0f
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Yep.  But there is always that balance between developer time versus
computing time.  Usually we can start with the quick developer win and
slowly attack slower areas.  Of course all of this is subjective and
every case requires a unique look.

Look at this:

http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315

Re: [PHP] Question about date()

[Ashley Sheridan]

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 19:47 +0100, Richard Heyes wrote:
> > Luckily for me it all still worked afterwards!
> 
> The pen drive or the code? :-)
> 
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> 
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> 
Both!


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Re: [PHP] Prefered Method for User authetification on VHosts

[Jochem Maas]

Michelle Konzack schreef:
> Hello,
> 
> I have at my hosting provider only 1 GByte of Diskspace and can  install
> VHosts as much as I want.  The problem is, that I  have  "no access"  to
> the OS for OS-Level autentification.
> 
> Currently I have
> 
> ${CUSTOMERPATH}/htdocs/index.php
> 
> which handel all VHosts and get ist config from directories like
> 
> ${CUSTOMERPATH}/CONFIG_.tamay-dogan.net/...
> 
> in which I currently use files like
> 
> :
> 
> and then I use:
> 
> [ STDIN ]---
> function login($user, $pass, $redirect) {
> 
>   if ($user != '' and $pass != '') {
> 
> $SHADOW=exec("grep \"^$user:\" " . DIR_HOST . "/.shadow |cut -d: -f2");
> if (empty($SHADOW)) {
>   header("Content-Type: text/html");
>   die("\n size=\"+2\" color=\"red\">Error noshade=\"noshade\">The username \"$user\" does not exist.");
> }
> 
> $SALT=exec("grep \"^$user:\" " . DIR_HOST . "/.shadow |cut -d: -f2 |cut 
> -d$ -f1-3");
> $ENCRYPTED=crypt($pass, $SALT);

seems like a lot of pain to go through, what with all that shell'ing out to 
grep data.
I'd personally go for a simple DB table and use/store sha1() hashes.

> if ($SHADOW != $ENCRYPTED) {
>   header("Content-Type: text/html");

text/html is the default content-type why bother with this line?

>   die("\n size=\"+2\" color=\"red\">Error noshade=\"noshade\">Wrong password for user \"$user\".");

I'm not a fan of die()ing in this fashion. I would argue the function should 
either
return true or false and let the caller decide what to do (e.g. show a login 
form again
or something)

I'm not a fan of meta-refreshes either.

> }
> $TIME_NOW=date("U");
> $SESSID=exec("echo \"${user}${TIME_NOW}\" |md5sum |sed 's| .*||'");
> setcookie('TDSESSION', "$SESSID");
> setcookie('USER', $user);
> exec("echo '" . date("U") . " " . $user . "' >" . DIR_SESSIONS . "/" . 
> $SESSID);

I smell a race condition or something ... also why go to all this trouble when 
you
could just use session_start() (and stick $TIME_NOW, $user, etc in $_SESSION) ?

>   }
>   if (empty($redirect)) {
> $redirect="/";
>   }
>   header("Content-Type: text/html");
>   die("");
> }
> 
> 
> which is working properly...
> 
> I like to know, whether this  is  good  enough  or  is  there  a  better
> solution?
>

there is always a better way ;-) ... the only real problem I envisage might be
related to file permissions on files in the DIR_SESSIONS dir ... given that this
stuff is in use, working, probably not protecting very sensitive data and the 
fact that
you're probably not going to get paid to change it ... I'd leave it be and go 
have a
beer or something :-)

> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
> Michelle Konzack
> Systemadministrator
> 24V Electronic Engineer
> Tamay Dogan Network
> Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
> 
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[PHP] Missing Env. Variables when called by AT Scheduler

[JJB]

We regularly send out massive mail blasts to our customers. Recently 
several mail blasts failed to transmit. After a serious amount of 
research we found the snippet of code below to be the place where it was 
breaking down. The issue it seems is that the Environment Variables HOST 
and SERVER_NAME are sometimes not returning true when executed from the 
Linux AT scheduler. (using atq commands).  doing a php -i from the 
command line returns the correct values, as does putting in a php info 
command at the top of the script and opening it from a browser.


Does anyone have any clues about why a script called from the AT 
scheduler would be unable to detect what server it is on and behave 
appropriately?


function send_mail($subject, $subject_name, $from, $email, 
$customer_name, $html_message, $text_message, $customer_id=0) {
   if($_SERVER['HOST'] == 'domain.com' || 
$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME']=='customer.domain.com') {

   global $mail;
   if(!is_object($mail)) {
   $mail = create_mail();
   }
   } else {
   // If on staging server don't send emails to any address 
outside company

   if(!stristr($email, '@domain.com')) return true;
   $mail = Mail::factory('mail');



Thanks,

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[PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Jason ML]

Hi PHP'ers,

PHP 4.4.8 and 5.

say I have a url like:

http://www.mydomain.tld/jason/index.php

In that index.php I want to have a piece of code that runs that tells  
me the 'jason' part of the URL so that I can run some custom read only  
queries for 'jason'


How can I do this? I know how to do everything except what PHP  
commands to run to get the info.


Thanks!

-Jason


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Re: [PHP] Missing Env. Variables when called by AT Scheduler

[Chris]

JJB wrote:
We regularly send out massive mail blasts to our customers. Recently 
several mail blasts failed to transmit. After a serious amount of 
research we found the snippet of code below to be the place where it was 
breaking down. The issue it seems is that the Environment Variables HOST 
and SERVER_NAME are sometimes not returning true when executed from the 
Linux AT scheduler. (using atq commands).  doing a php -i from the 
command line returns the correct values, as does putting in a php info 
command at the top of the script and opening it from a browser.


I doubt php -i does that at all.

$ php -i | grep 'SERVER_NAME'
$


$_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] and $_SERVER['HOST'] are set by web servers, 
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Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Chris]

Jason ML wrote:

Hi PHP'ers,

PHP 4.4.8 and 5.

say I have a url like:

http://www.mydomain.tld/jason/index.php

In that index.php I want to have a piece of code that runs that tells me 
the 'jason' part of the URL so that I can run some custom read only 
queries for 'jason'


How can I do this? I know how to do everything except what PHP commands 
to run to get the info.


print_r($_SERVER);

to see what you have available.

Then use http://php.net/parse_url on the right variable.

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Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Micah Gersten]

dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);

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Jason ML wrote:
> Hi PHP'ers,
>
> PHP 4.4.8 and 5.
>
> say I have a url like:
>
> http://www.mydomain.tld/jason/index.php
>
> In that index.php I want to have a piece of code that runs that tells
> me the 'jason' part of the URL so that I can run some custom read only
> queries for 'jason'
>
> How can I do this? I know how to do everything except what PHP
> commands to run to get the info.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Jason
>
>

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Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Jason ML]

Hi Micah,


dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);



I have tried that and I dont get the proper URI:

Example running 	print_r($_SERVER); I get: [REQUEST_URI] => /net1003/ 
people/jason/


But then doing:

$jason = dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);

echo "URL: ";
echo $jason;

I get: URL: /net1003/people

Thoughts on what I am doing wrong.

Jason


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[PHP] Plotting Tool

[Liz Kim]

Hi,

Anyone have any suggestions on a plotting package for PHP?
Nothing too crazy and fancy - just easy to read plots/graphs.
We were using PHPlot on our old server but it's requiring too many
lib's/util's to install on a new server.

TIA.

Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Daniel Brown]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Jason ML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But then doing:
>
>$jason = dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);
>
>echo "URL: ";
>echo $jason;
>
> I get: URL: /net1003/people
>
> Thoughts on what I am doing wrong.

Yeah.  Not R'ing TFM.  dirname() gives you the name of the
directory ABOVE what you pass.

http://php.net/dirname

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Re: [PHP] Plotting Tool

[Thorsten Suckow-Homberg]

Hey there,

> Anyone have any suggestions on a plotting package for PHP?
> Nothing too crazy and fancy - just easy to read plots/graphs.
> We were using PHPlot on our old server but it's requiring too many
> lib's/util's to install on a new server.

> 

JPGraph:
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/


HTH

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Re: [PHP] Plotting Tool

[Daniel Brown]

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Liz Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on a plotting package for PHP?
> Nothing too crazy and fancy - just easy to read plots/graphs.
> We were using PHPlot on our old server but it's requiring too many
> lib's/util's to install on a new server.

I think Richard Heyes was working on some of these, actually.  Not
positive if it was plotting or just display, though.  If you check the
archives, you might find something.  I'm CC'ing him personally, too.

Here's one link of his I have from memory:

http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph_dev/examples/bar.html

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Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Jason ML]

Daniel,


I get: URL: /net1003/people

Thoughts on what I am doing wrong.


   Yeah.  Not R'ing TFM.  dirname() gives you the name of the
directory ABOVE what you pass.

   http://php.net/dirname


Thanks for the pointer. You are indeed correct.

-Jason


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Re: [PHP] PHP and getting part of URL

[Micah Gersten]

Your original post has this as the URL:
> http://www.mydomain.tld/jason/index.php 

That's why I gave you that command.

If you want jason out of what you posted,
Check out the following commands:
http://us.php.net/array_pop
http://us.php.net/explode


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Jason ML wrote:
> Hi Micah,
>
>> dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);
>
>
> I have tried that and I dont get the proper URI:
>
> Example running print_r($_SERVER); I get: [REQUEST_URI] =>
> /net1003/people/jason/
>
> But then doing:
>
> $jason = dirname($_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);
>
> echo "URL: ";
> echo $jason;
>
> I get: URL: /net1003/people
>
> Thoughts on what I am doing wrong.
>
> Jason

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[PHP] Login

[Terry J Daichendt]

I want to open a page if a login is correct and another if not. What is the 
function to open a page in PHP? Can you show me a simple example of the 
syntax? 



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Re: [PHP] Login

[Micah Gersten]

What do you mean by open?
You can redirect to a new page:
http://us.php.net/header
or
You can include a file:
http://us.php.net/include/

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Terry J Daichendt wrote:
> I want to open a page if a login is correct and another if not. What
> is the function to open a page in PHP? Can you show me a simple
> example of the syntax?
>

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Re: [PHP] Login

[Kyle Terry]

You can just use a header redirect. For example: if you are at  
login.php and the user is authorized, you could use if($auth === true) 
{ header("Location: authed_page.php");

} else { header("Location: denied.php"); }


On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:44 PM, "Terry J Daichendt"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I want to open a page if a login is correct and another if not. What  
is the function to open a page in PHP? Can you show me a simple  
example of the syntax?


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Re: [PHP] Login

[Nilesh Govindrajan]

There is no such function! You have to write the code.


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:14 AM, Terry J Daichendt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I want to open a page if a login is correct and another if not. What is the
> function to open a page in PHP? Can you show me a simple example of the
> syntax?
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Re: [PHP] Login

[Nilesh Govindrajan]

On Wednesday 08 October 2008 06:14:33 am Terry J Daichendt wrote:
> I want to open a page if a login is correct and another if not. What is the
> function to open a page in PHP? Can you show me a simple example of the
> syntax?

There is no such function. You have many options like redirecting a user-

header('Location: newfile.php');

showing another file-

include('newfile.php');

or using fopen to open a HTML file and print it (this one is very rarely 
used!).

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Re: [PHP] Selecting all records between a date range

[Chris]

Dan Joseph wrote:

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


   SQLTEST: SELECT * FROM `timeStore` WHERE`timein` BETWEEN
1222315200 AND 122292
Could not perform query: Query was empty

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Put a ' around your timestamp numbers.  I think that should fix that query.
Although I'll admitt, I have no way to test that on mysql, but that is how
MS SQL works...


Int's don't need quoting in mysql (or postgres, or oracle).. not sure 
why ms-sql would need that.


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[PHP] Manipulating strings

[Ron Piggott]

I have a series of questions.

How do I count the number of  's in a string?

How do I add text in the middle of a string, let's say after the 3rd


Ron


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Re: [PHP] Manipulating strings

[Micah Gersten]

For the 1st question:
http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.substr-count.php

For the second question:
http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.strpos.php
http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.str-replace.php

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Ron Piggott wrote:
> I have a series of questions.
>
> How do I count the number of  's in a string?
>
> How do I add text in the middle of a string, let's say after the 3rd
> 
>
> Ron
>
>
>   

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Re: [PHP] Manipulating strings

[Ron Piggott]

The first question was to find out how long the blog entry was (number
of paragraphs.)

I am wanting to put an ad in half way.  Consequently there are going to
be many  's before the one I am wanting to add text to.

How should I handle this?

Ron

On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 20:55 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
> For the second question:
> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.strpos.php
> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.str-replace.php
> 
> Thank you,
> Micah Gersten
> onShore Networks
> Internal Developer
> http://www.onshore.com
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Piggott wrote:
> > I have a series of questions.
> >
> > How do I count the number of  's in a string?
> >
> > How do I add text in the middle of a string, let's say after the 3rd
> > 
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >   


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Re: [PHP] Manipulating strings

[Micah Gersten]

Then you'll need this as well:
http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.strlen.php

**strpos** ( $text , ''
,
strlen($text)/2 );

Will give you the position.

Use str_replace to insert your ad.

Thank you,
Micah Gersten
onShore Networks
Internal Developer
http://www.onshore.com



Ron Piggott wrote:
> The first question was to find out how long the blog entry was (number
> of paragraphs.)
>
> I am wanting to put an ad in half way.  Consequently there are going to
> be many  's before the one I am wanting to add text to.
>
> How should I handle this?
>
> Ron
>
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 20:55 -0500, Micah Gersten wrote:
>   
>> For the second question:
>> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.strpos.php
>> http://us.php.net/manual/en/function.str-replace.php
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Micah Gersten
>> onShore Networks
>> Internal Developer
>> http://www.onshore.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Piggott wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a series of questions.
>>>
>>> How do I count the number of  's in a string?
>>>
>>> How do I add text in the middle of a string, let's say after the 3rd
>>> 
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   

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RE: [PHP] Plotting Tool

[Warren Vail]

You might check out JPGraph, I think it's available on source forge, very
little php code on your part can produce some pretty impressive results.

Warren Vail 

> -Original Message-
> From: paragasu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:42 PM
> To: Daniel Brown
> Cc: Liz Kim; php-general@lists.php.net; Richard Heyes
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Plotting Tool
> 
> i am not sure if this one can be counted as OT. but, i found 
> a JQuery extension you can use.
> it is a javascript http://code.google.com/p/flot/ and here is 
> the result example http://ajaxian.com/archives/plotting-in-jquery
> 
> quite fancy ;)
> 
> On 10/8/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Liz Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Anyone have any suggestions on a plotting package for PHP?
> >> Nothing too crazy and fancy - just easy to read plots/graphs.
> >> We were using PHPlot on our old server but it's requiring too many 
> >> lib's/util's to install on a new server.
> >
> > I think Richard Heyes was working on some of these, 
> actually.  Not 
> > positive if it was plotting or just display, though.  If 
> you check the 
> > archives, you might find something.  I'm CC'ing him personally, too.
> >
> > Here's one link of his I have from memory:
> >
> > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph_dev/examples/bar.html
> >
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Re: [PHP] Plotting Tool

[paragasu]

i am not sure if this one can be counted as OT. but, i found a JQuery
extension you can use.
it is a javascript http://code.google.com/p/flot/
and here is the result example http://ajaxian.com/archives/plotting-in-jquery

quite fancy ;)

On 10/8/08, Daniel Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Liz Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions on a plotting package for PHP?
>> Nothing too crazy and fancy - just easy to read plots/graphs.
>> We were using PHPlot on our old server but it's requiring too many
>> lib's/util's to install on a new server.
>
> I think Richard Heyes was working on some of these, actually.  Not
> positive if it was plotting or just display, though.  If you check the
> archives, you might find something.  I'm CC'ing him personally, too.
>
> Here's one link of his I have from memory:
>
> http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph_dev/examples/bar.html
>
> --
> 
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> Intel 2.4GHz/60GB/512MB/2TB $49.99/mo.
> Intel 3.06GHz/80GB/1GB/2TB $59.99/mo.
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Re: [PHP] Re: php framework vs just php?

[paragasu]

> PHP framework vs just php ?
> http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315

according to the benchmark.Just PHP win by more than 100%  to average framework.
even the fastest solar only manage to serve 154pages/sec compare to
just php 1320pages/sec

call me outdated. but i stay with just php!

On 10/8/08, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Ashley Sheridan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:20 -0300, uaca man wrote:
>>> Farid,
>>>
>>> I like to use PRADO(www.pradosoft.com), it is very easy to use for
>>> those who are coming from Microsoft .Net platform as it uses the same
>>> architecture. I did not like symfony, too much to read before the
>>> first example.
>>>
>>> Angelo
>>>
>>> 2008/10/6 farid lópez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> > what is your framework??? uacaman.
>>> >
>>> > i'm using symfony, but i'm reading the book. it's hard but there are so
>>> > many
>>> > things you can do easily with symfony!
>>> >
>>> > 2008/10/7 uaca man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >
>>> >> To be or not to be dump it your choice.
>>> >>
>>> >> My framework it not just awesome it is super awesome.
>>> >>
>>> >> Angelo
>>> >>
>>> >> 2008/10/6 Dan Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> >> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> But... Which framework is better? :P
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> > Oh my.. now we're gonna get all those guys popping back up telling
>>> >> > us how
>>> >> > dumb we are and how awesome their frameworks are again!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > -Dan Joseph
>>> >> >
>>> >> > www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day.
>>> >> > Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
>>> >> >
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>>> >
>>> > "La naturaleza del hombre es tal que puede conseguir la perfección
>>> > únicamente cuando
>>> > trabaja para el bienestar y la dignidad de sus conciudadanos".  Karl
>>> > Marx
>>> >
>>>
>> Don't frameworks introduce a lot more overhead to projects though?
>>
>>
>> Ashhttp://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/php-general/11975743c3279e0f
>> www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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>
> Yep.  But there is always that balance between developer time versus
> computing time.  Usually we can start with the quick developer win and
> slowly attack slower areas.  Of course all of this is subjective and
> every case requires a unique look.
>
> Look at this:
>
> http://paul-m-jones.com/?p=315
>

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