Re: [Pharo-users] name selector

[Norbert Hartl]

+ 1

Norbert

Am 26.05.2014 um 19:19 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :

> Object>>#name should be removed, it is possible, I tried it once.
> Most senders of #name are asking for the name of a class.
> 
> On 26 May 2014, at 18:15, Stephan Eggermont  wrote:
> 
>> Do I understand correctly that name is to be understood as inspectorName
>> and so should never be implemented as subclass responsibility?
>> 
>> Stephan
>> 
> 
> 

[Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Bernat Romagosa]

Hi list,

is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the
dock?

In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the
dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?

Thanks!

-- 
Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Esteban Lorenzano]

not directly but you can use the Alien ObjC bridge to work with the cocoa 
libraries and intercept your app. 
use ConfigurationOfOldAlien from alien repo in squeaksource or in the 
configurations browser.

Esteban

On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Bernat Romagosa  
wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock?
> 
> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the 
> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-users] deep into pharo(esug 2013) translate to korean draft version.

[Damien Cassou]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM, peter yoo  wrote:
> It would be honor to me if you would like to put a URL link to my korean
> translation of Deep Into Pharo on your website.


what about this: http://deepintopharo.com/ ?

-- 
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Mariano Martinez Peck]

Hi Bernat,

About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch
of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember.
I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list:


Hello there,

For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support
in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a
legacy framework so people needed this.

I wanted to thanks Square [i] International  for
sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the
development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for
the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo
VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody.

The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I
wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This
VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6.

*How to use it?*  Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit
the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is
not present):

 LSBackgroundOnly
 

When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting
LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost
mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put
the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM
will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash
bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the
"flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still
couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation.

*How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or
Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you
areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running
in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM with
headless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V
So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you
should see that Seaside is running.

I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which
version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the
better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have
some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still
couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :(

*Expected results?*  In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no
window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching
apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal.

*Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my
own fork of the VM:
https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed
Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be
integrated.



On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa <
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the
> dock?
>
> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the
> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Bernat Romagosa.
>



-- 
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Bernat Romagosa]

Hi Mariano,

Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock
:)

I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it
without any command-line knowledge.

Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost
replace Alien now?

Thanks!

Bernat.


2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :

> Hi Bernat,
>
> About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch
> of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember.
> I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list:
>
>
> Hello there,
>
> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support
> in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a
> legacy framework so people needed this.
>
> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International  for
> sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the
> development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for
> the community. This headless support will be included in the official
> Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody.
>
> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I
> wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This
> VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6.
>
> *How to use it?*  Basically it works this way: to have headless, just
> edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if
> it is not present):
>
>  LSBackgroundOnly
>  
>
> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting
> LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost
> mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put
> the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the
> VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash
> bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the
> "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still
> couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation.
>
> *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or
> Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you
> areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside
> running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM
> withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V
> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:,
> you should see that Seaside is running.
>
> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which
> version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the
> better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have
> some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still
> couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :(
>
> *Expected results?*  In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no
> window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching
> apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal.
>
> *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to
> my own fork of the VM:
> https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed
> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be
> integrated.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa <
> tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the
>> dock?
>>
>> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the
>> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Bernat Romagosa.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>



-- 
Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Esteban Lorenzano]

On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa  
wrote:

> Hi Mariano,
> 
> Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :)
> 
> I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it 
> without any command-line knowledge.
> 
> Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace 
> Alien now?

yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time to 
do it :( ) 
better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: 

#NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.)

:)



Esteban

> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Bernat.
> 
> 
> 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
> Hi Bernat, 
> 
> About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of 
> Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. 
> I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list:
> 
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support 
> in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy 
> framework so people needed this. 
> 
> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring me to implement 
> such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have 
> also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless 
> support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, 
> accessible to everybody.
> 
> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted 
> to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM 
> should only work starting at OSX 10.6.
> 
> How to use it?  Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the 
> Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not 
> present):
> 
>  LSBackgroundOnly
>  
> 
> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting 
> LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost 
> mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the 
> key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM will 
> still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, 
> then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the "flash" while also 
> avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, 
> I think we can live with the current situation. 
>  
> How to test it? You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside 
> or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you 
> areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in 
> the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM withheadless 
> from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V
> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you 
> should see that Seaside is running. 
>   
> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which 
> version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the 
> better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have 
> some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still 
> couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :(
>  
> Expected results?  In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, 
> no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When 
> running headfull, everything should be normal.
> 
> Where is the code? The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own 
> fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed
> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be 
> integrated. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa 
>  wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock?
> 
> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the 
> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- 
> Bernat Romagosa.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

[Bernat Romagosa]

OK! I'll try that!

You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;)

Thanks a lot!
Bernat.


2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano :

>
> On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mariano,
>
> Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the
> dock :)
>
> I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it
> without any command-line knowledge.
>
> Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost
> replace Alien now?
>
>
> yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found
> time to do it :( )
> better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like:
>
> #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.)
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Esteban
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bernat.
>
>
> 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck :
>
>> Hi Bernat,
>>
>> About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch
>> of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember.
>> I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list:
>>
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support
>> in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a
>> legacy framework so people needed this.
>>
>> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International  for
>> sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the
>> development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for
>> the community. This headless support will be included in the official
>> Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody.
>>
>> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I
>> wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This
>> VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6.
>>
>> *How to use it?*  Basically it works this way: to have headless, just
>> edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if
>> it is not present):
>>
>>  LSBackgroundOnly
>>  
>>
>> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since,
>> setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag
>> almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't
>> even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -
>> headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash.
>> If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to
>> avoid the "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I
>> still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current
>> situation.
>>
>> *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or
>> Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you
>> areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside
>> running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM
>> withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V
>> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:,
>> you should see that Seaside is running.
>>
>> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which
>> version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the
>> better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have
>> some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still
>> couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :(
>>
>> *Expected results?*  In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no
>> window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching
>> apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal.
>>
>> *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to
>> my own fork of the VM:
>> https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed
>> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be
>> integrated.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa <
>> tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the
>>> dock?
>>>
>>> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to
>>> the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernat Romagosa.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mariano
>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bernat Romagosa.
>
>
>


-- 
Bernat Romagosa.

Re: [Pharo-users] name selector

[Sean P. DeNigris]

jfabry wrote
> +1 on the removal of Object>>#name.

+1. It is a trap, especially for new users...



-
Cheers,
Sean
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[Pharo-users] Mac keyboard bindings

[darrinm]

A number of text editing keys don't work like I expect. For example, Home and
End don't do anything and Command-left/right don't behave as they do
elsewhere in the system.

How can I fix these mappings/behaviors?

Thanks.



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