[GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-11 Thread Si Chen
I have a problem where postgresql 9.3 got stuck, and the number of
postgresql processes increased from about 15 to 225 in 10 minutes.

I ran the query:
select pid, query_start, waiting, state, query from pg_stat_activity order
by query_start;

But it showed mostly select statements -- all of them the same one, with a
couple of joins.  They are not in a waiting state but have been running for
over 2 hours.

I also checked for locks with the query on
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring

But it returned no locked tables.

So what does this mean?  Is the select query getting stuck?
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Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-11 Thread Si Chen
I didn't see any from the log.  It was just a whole bunch of pretty
standard looking SELECT queries.  There were no INSERT/COMMIT statements
which were still active before the SELECT's, just a few which are waiting
after a lot of SELECT statements.

Also, if the process just shows COMMIT, is there any way to see what it's
trying to commit?


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Jeff Janes  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Si Chen 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a problem where postgresql 9.3 got stuck, and the number of
>> postgresql processes increased from about 15 to 225 in 10 minutes.
>>
>> I ran the query:
>> select pid, query_start, waiting, state, query from pg_stat_activity
>> order by query_start;
>>
>> But it showed mostly select statements -- all of them the same one, with
>> a couple of joins.  They are not in a waiting state but have been running
>> for over 2 hours.
>>
>> I also checked for locks with the query on
>> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring
>>
>> But it returned no locked tables.
>>
>> So what does this mean?  Is the select query getting stuck?
>>
>
> Do you have a huge chunk of newly insert, not yet committed, rows?  This
> sounds like the issue where all of the processes fight with each other over
> the right to check uncommitted rows in order to verify that they are
> actually uncommitted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>



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Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-11 Thread Si Chen
The state is "idle".  I don't have the state_change, but I will try to
collect it if it happens again.


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Igor Neyman  wrote:

> From: pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:
> pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Si Chen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:34 PM
> To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is
> stuck?
>
> I didn't see any from the log.  It was just a whole bunch of pretty
> standard looking SELECT queries.  There were no INSERT/COMMIT statements
> which were still active before the SELECT's, just a few which are waiting
> after a lot of SELECT statements.
>
> Also, if the process just shows COMMIT, is there any way to see what it's
> trying to commit?
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Jeff Janes  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Si Chen 
> wrote:
> I have a problem where postgresql 9.3 got stuck, and the number of
> postgresql processes increased from about 15 to 225 in 10 minutes.
>
> I ran the query:
> select pid, query_start, waiting, state, query from pg_stat_activity order
> by query_start;
>
> But it showed mostly select statements -- all of them the same one, with a
> couple of joins.  They are not in a waiting state but have been running for
> over 2 hours.
>
> I also checked for locks with the query on
> http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring
>
> But it returned no locked tables.
>
> So what does this mean?  Is the select query getting stuck?
>
> Do you have a huge chunk of newly insert, not yet committed, rows?  This
> sounds like the issue where all of the processes fight with each other over
> the right to check uncommitted rows in order to verify that they are
> actually uncommitted.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
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>
> When you query pg_stat_activity, what do you see in state column, and how
> state_change compares to query_start?
>
> Regards,
> Igor Neyman
>
>


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Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-11 Thread Si Chen
Is there a way to configure postgresql to automatically release connections
that have been idle for a set amount of time?


On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Merlin Moncure  wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Si Chen
>  wrote:
> > The state is "idle".  I don't have the state_change, but I will try to
> > collect it if it happens again.
>
> If they are idle, then the problem is probably with your application
> -- you're grabbing new connections and not closing them or reusing
> them.  It's a very common problem.  The 'query' when idle represents
> the last query run -- the database finished it and is sitting around.
>
> merlin
>



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Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-12 Thread Si Chen
PgBouncer looks pretty cool.  Do you recommend using it with jdbc with
about 50 - 100 normal connections?


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Igor Neyman  wrote:

> From: pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:
> pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Si Chen
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 10:44 PM
> To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is
> stuck?
>
> Is there a way to configure postgresql to automatically release
> connections that have been idle for a set amount of time?
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Merlin Moncure 
> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Si Chen
>  wrote:
> > The state is "idle".  I don't have the state_change, but I will try to
> > collect it if it happens again.
> If they are idle, then the problem is probably with your application
> -- you're grabbing new connections and not closing them or reusing
> them.  It's a very common problem.  The 'query' when idle represents
> the last query run -- the database finished it and is sitting around.
>
> merlin
>
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>
> The best solution for this is to use some connection pooler, such as
> PgBouncer.
> B.t.w., PgBouncer can also disconnect idle client connections (if you
> really wish) based on configuration setting.
>
> Regards,
> Igor Neyman
>
>


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Re: [GENERAL] what does pg_activity mean when the database is stuck?

2014-06-13 Thread Si Chen
Yes, that would be nice, but it's a big app a lot of which we didn't write,
etc.--you can imagine the rest ;)

Is there even a way for postgreql to get me all the queries that has gone
through a particular process, so we can see what the app was trying to do
that left the connection hanging?


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:55 PM, John R Pierce  wrote:

> On 6/12/2014 4:24 PM, Si Chen wrote:
>
>> PgBouncer looks pretty cool.  Do you recommend using it with jdbc with
>> about 50 - 100 normal connections?
>>
>
> Java has quite a few built in connection pooling options.
>
> they all work best if your software is configured to grab a connection,
> use it for a transaction, then release it back to the pool.
>
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[GENERAL] is there a way log last query in pg_stat_activity

2014-08-14 Thread Si Chen
I'm using Postgresql 9.0, and my pg_stat_activity.query seems to always be
showing  when no query is being run.

Is there a way for it to show the last query, even if it was run a while
ago?

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[GENERAL] getting the current query from pg_stat_activity

2014-03-31 Thread Si Chen
Hello,

I have two different postgresql servers running slightly versions.  On one
them, if I try to use pg_stat_activity to get the current queries, I get

1$ psql
psql (9.0.13)
Type "help" for help.

postgres=# select procpid, query_start, waiting, current_query from
pg_stat_activity;
 procpid |  query_start  | waiting |
current_query
-+---+-+
 673 | 2014-03-31 11:45:45.38988-07  | f   | 
 855 | 2014-03-31 11:45:45.478935-07 | f   | 
...

This agrees with the results of
$ ps auxw | grep postgres

postgres   673  0.3  0.3 243028 55348 ?Ss   Mar30   2:25 postgres:
pguser databasename 127.0.0.1(53931) idle
postgres   855  0.3  0.3 243304 57584 ?Ss   Mar30   2:49 postgres:
pguser databasename 127.0.0.1(53981) idle

which shows that the processes are idle.

On the other one, though,
$ psql
psql (9.2.6)
Type "help" for help.

postgres=select pid, query_start, waiting, query from pg_stat_activity;
#   pid  |  query_start  | waiting |
query

 12333 | 2014-03-31 14:32:30.810934-04 | f   | SELECT...

 12376 | 2014-03-31 14:48:08.338419-04 | f   | COMMIT
 12405 | 2014-03-31 14:52:22.903848-04 | f   | COMMIT
 12406 | 2014-03-31 14:32:48.150378-04 | f   | SELECT   



which is strange, because the processes show they are idle,
postgres 12333  0.0  1.8 3437696 279736 ?  Ss   14:31   0:00 postgres:
opentaps databasename 127.0.0.1(37969) idle
postgres 12376  5.0  9.7 3473184 1491196 ? Ss   14:32   1:05 postgres:
opentaps databasename 127.0.0.1(38025) idle
postgres 12405  1.5  6.5 3467624 1007160 ? Ss   14:32   0:19 postgres:
opentaps databasename 127.0.0.1(38085) idle
postgres 12406  0.0  0.0 3432512 13024 ?   Ss   14:32   0:00 postgres:
opentaps databasename 127.0.0.1(38100) idle

it seems that there is also a difference between the pg_stat_activity table
of version 9.0.13:

 \d pg_stat_activity;
   View "pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity"
  Column  |   Type   | Modifiers
--+--+---
 datid| oid  |
 datname  | name |
 procpid  | integer  |
 usesysid | oid  |
 usename  | name |
 application_name | text |
 client_addr  | inet |
 client_port  | integer  |
 backend_start| timestamp with time zone |
 xact_start   | timestamp with time zone |
 query_start  | timestamp with time zone |
 waiting  | boolean  |
 current_query| text |


vs 9.2.6:

   View "pg_catalog.pg_stat_activity"
  Column  |   Type   | Modifiers
--+--+---
 datid| oid  |
 datname  | name |
 pid  | integer  |
 usesysid | oid  |
 usename  | name |
 application_name | text |
 client_addr  | inet |
 client_hostname  | text |
 client_port  | integer  |
 backend_start| timestamp with time zone |
 xact_start   | timestamp with time zone |
 query_start  | timestamp with time zone |
 state_change | timestamp with time zone |
 waiting  | boolean  |
 state| text |
 query| text |

So which one is correct?  Why does 9.0.13 show the processes as idle, and
9.2.6 show a query, even though the process shows them as idle?

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Re: [GENERAL] getting the current query from pg_stat_activity

2014-03-31 Thread Si Chen
Thanks!  That's very helpful and answers my question.


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:52 PM, David Johnston  wrote:

> Si Chen-2 wrote
> > I have two different postgresql servers running slightly [different]
> > versions.
>
> Versions 9.0 and 9.2 are NOT slightly different.  These are two MAJOR
> RELEASES (which allow for API changes) apart (i.e., one major release in
> between - 9.1)
>
> The release notes for 9.2 note this particular change explicitly:
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/interactive/release-9-2.html
>
> Section E.9.2.6
>
> Note the presence of the "state" column in the 9.2 schema - you use this to
> determine if a connection is "idle" instead of looking for "" in a
> query column which then allows the query column to be report the "last
> known
> query" at all times.
>
> David J.
>
>
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[GENERAL] simple update query stuck

2014-04-01 Thread Si Chen
Hello,

I'm using postgresql 9.0.13, and I have a simple query that seems to be
stuck.  I did a
postgres=# select procpid, query_start, waiting, current_query from
pg_stat_activity;

 procpid |  query_start  | waiting |

  current_query


   32605 | 2014-04-01 12:39:46.957666-07 | t   | UPDATE
public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
GL_ACCOUNT
_ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10

   32685 | 2014-04-01 12:25:10.378481-07 | t   | UPDATE
public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
GL_ACCOUNT
_ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10

As you can see this is a pretty simple update query, but it's been running
24 minutes in one thread and nearly 10 minutes in the other thread.  What's
also strange is it's not trigger a transaction timeout either.

I've already re-started the database recently, and there's not too many
threads executing -- just 38 threads total.  Is it possible that the table
is corrupted or needs repair?

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Re: [GENERAL] simple update query stuck

2014-04-01 Thread Si Chen
Thanks for writing back, but I don't think so.  There's no message of a
deadlock in the log, and the first query started at 12:25, the next one
12:31, 12:39, 12:50, 12:54, so there's plenty of time in between.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Hoover, Jeffrey  wrote:

> Could they both be trying to update the same row, resulting in a deadlock?
>
>
>
> *From:* pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:
> pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org] *On Behalf Of *Si Chen
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:51 PM
> *To:* pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> *Subject:* [GENERAL] simple update query stuck
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I'm using postgresql 9.0.13, and I have a simple query that seems to be
> stuck.  I did a
>
> postgres=# select procpid, query_start, waiting, current_query from
> pg_stat_activity;
>
>
>
>  procpid |  query_start  | waiting |
>
>   current_query
>
>
>
>
>32605 | 2014-04-01 12:39:46.957666-07 | t   | UPDATE
> public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
> THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
> GL_ACCOUNT
>
> _ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10
>
>
>
>32685 | 2014-04-01 12:25:10.378481-07 | t   | UPDATE
> public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
> THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
> GL_ACCOUNT
>
> _ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10
>
>
>
> As you can see this is a pretty simple update query, but it's been running
> 24 minutes in one thread and nearly 10 minutes in the other thread.  What's
> also strange is it's not trigger a transaction timeout either.
>
>
>
> I've already re-started the database recently, and there's not too many
> threads executing -- just 38 threads total.  Is it possible that the table
> is corrupted or needs repair?
>
>
>
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Re: [GENERAL] simple update query stuck

2014-04-01 Thread Si Chen
You are right.  That was the problem.  I tried the query from
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Lock_Monitoring and found a COMMIT
transaction that was blocking it.

I restarted postgresql again, and (it seems) everything went back to
normal.  Was there another way to unlock the table then?


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Igor Neyman  wrote:

>
>
> From: pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org [mailto:
> pgsql-general-ow...@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Si Chen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:51 PM
> To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
> Subject: [GENERAL] simple update query stuck
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm using postgresql 9.0.13, and I have a simple query that seems to be
> stuck.  I did a
> postgres=# select procpid, query_start, waiting, current_query from
> pg_stat_activity;
>
>  procpid |  query_start  | waiting |
>
>   current_query
>
>
>32605 | 2014-04-01 12:39:46.957666-07 | t   | UPDATE
> public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
> THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
> GL_ACCOUNT
> _ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10
>
>32685 | 2014-04-01 12:25:10.378481-07 | t   | UPDATE
> public.GL_ACCOUNT_ORGANIZATION SET ROLE_TYPE_ID=$1, FROM_DATE=$2,
> THRU_DATE=$3, POSTED_BALANCE=$4, LAST_UPDATED_STAMP=$5,
> LAST_UPDATED_TX_STAMP=$6, CREATED_STAMP=$7, CREATED_TX_STAMP=$8 WHERE
> GL_ACCOUNT
> _ID=$9 AND ORGANIZATION_PARTY_ID=$10
>
> As you can see this is a pretty simple update query, but it's been running
> 24 minutes in one thread and nearly 10 minutes in the other thread.  What's
> also strange is it's not trigger a transaction timeout either.
>
> I've already re-started the database recently, and there's not too many
> threads executing -- just 38 threads total.  Is it possible that the table
> is corrupted or needs repair?
>
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>
> Both queries are "waiting".  Your table must be locked.
> Check pg_locks.
>
> Regards,
> Igor Neyman
>



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Re: [GENERAL] simple update query stuck

2014-04-02 Thread Si Chen
Ok, thanks.  I'll keep that in mind.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Andrew Sullivan  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 07:00:16PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>
> > one of the clients, in a way that isn't visible to the deadlock detector.
> > One way for that to happen without any external interconnections is if
> the
> > client is waiting for a NOTIFY that will never arrive because the
> would-be
> > sender is blocked.
>
> I bet the case I was thinking of was the NOTIFY example.  That never
> occurred to me as an explanation, but now that you mention it, it
> seems quite likely to me.
>
> More generally (and for the OP's problem), my experience is that lots
> of updates against the same rows in an unpredictable order is an
> excellent way to run into trouble, and long-running transactions are a
> major source of these problems.  Without a more detailed report about
> what is going on in the present case, I don't think it's going to be
> possible to diagnose better than has been done.
>
> A
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[GENERAL] postgresql 8.0 advantages

2005-02-25 Thread Si Chen
Hello.
I read the PostgreSQL 8.0 "What's New" page 
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew) and wasn't sure whether 
version 8.0 is significantly faster, more scalability, or more stable 
than versions 7.4?  I remember big speed improvements between 7.3 and 
7.4.  It seems the biggest advantage of version 8.0 is being able to run 
in Windows. 

Is that true?
Thanks,
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Re: [GENERAL] postgresql 8.0 advantages

2005-02-25 Thread Si Chen
Thanks!
Is there any documentation on how to upgrade to 8.0?
Is it possible to upgrade from 7.4 to 8.0 while keeping a production 
database running "in place"?  Or should I install 8.0 in another 
directory/machine and then restore the database into it?  Are there any 
incompatibilities/modifications to databases from the earlier veresion 
required?

(I am running RHEL3.)
Si Chen
Tom Lane wrote:
Si Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

I read the PostgreSQL 8.0 "What's New" page 
(http://www.postgresql.org/docs/whatsnew) and wasn't sure whether 
version 8.0 is significantly faster, more scalability, or more stable 
than versions 7.4?  I remember big speed improvements between 7.3 and 
7.4.  It seems the biggest advantage of version 8.0 is being able to run 
in Windows. 
   

There are some speed improvements in 8.0 too, though that wasn't the
main focus of the release cycle.  For instance, Lonni Friedman's nearby
thread reports on a case where 8.0 consistently finds a much better
query plan for a complex query than prior releases did, because we fixed
some issues in the GEQO planner module.
regards, tom lane
 

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[GENERAL] postgresql 8.0 on windows 2003 server

2005-02-25 Thread Si Chen
Hello everyone.  Thanks for the answers earlier about the new 8.0 version.
We have a client who is thinking about putting postgresql 8.0 on Windows 
2003 Server, but he is concerned because this is the first version to 
run natively on windows.  Are there any issues with 8.0 on Windows?

Also, with Linux it was possible to improve performance by increasing 
the amount of shared memory in /etc/shmmax 
(http://www.phpbuilder.com/columns/smith20010821.php3).  Does this need 
to be done in Windows?

Thanks!
Si Chen
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[GENERAL] survey of the postgresql communiity

2005-05-25 Thread Si Chen

Hi everyone.

My company (opensourcestrategies.com) is conducting a study of the 
PostgreSQL community to promote better understanding of open source 
software.  We're trying to help people better understand:

1.  the motivations behind contributing to open source software; and
2.  dynamics between developers and users in a large, successful open 
source project.


As part of our study, we'd like to ask you to take a short (under 5 
minute) and anonymous survey at 
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/pgsurvey/control/main.  Your answers 
will help promote better understanding of open source software in 
general and the PostgreSQL project in particular.


Also, if you belong to other open source mailing lists with PostgreSQL 
users, please help us by re-posting this message on those lists as well, 
respecting, of course, their list posting etiquette.


If you have any questions or comments about the survey, please email me 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thank you!

Si Chen

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[GENERAL] how to release a transaction lock on a table?

2005-01-31 Thread Si Chen
Hello everyone.  I am trying to do an ALTER TABLE, but it hangs 
indefinitely.  I think the table is locked from a transaction, and in 
pg_locks I found:
relation  75907
database 74861
pid 29604
mode AccessExclusiveLock
granted f

Is there a way to release this lock?  Or does the database need to 
re-started? 

Si
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Re: [GENERAL] how to release a transaction lock on a table?

2005-01-31 Thread Si Chen
Thanks, Michael, for the input. Is there anyway in PostgreSQL to force 
some transactions to close (rollback if necessary)? I notice there is no 
way to release a LOCK manually.

Si
Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 10:13:26AM -0800, Si Chen wrote:
 

Hello everyone.  I am trying to do an ALTER TABLE, but it hangs 
indefinitely.  I think the table is locked from a transaction, and in 
pg_locks I found:
relation  75907
database 74861
pid 29604
mode AccessExclusiveLock
granted f
   

Look for other processes that have a lock on the table:
SELECT * FROM pg_locks WHERE relation = 75907;
If you have stats_command_string turned on then you can query
pg_stat_activity to see what the other processes are doing.
 

Is there a way to release this lock?  Or does the database need to 
re-started? 
   

Before taking drastic steps like restarting the database, find out
who holds the conflicting lock and why.  You might have an application
sitting idle in a transaction that it should be committing or rolling
back, in which case the application should probably be fixed.
 

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Re: [GENERAL] how to release a transaction lock on a table?

2005-02-01 Thread Si Chen
Michael,
I would like to track down what in the application is causing the 
deadlock, but it's a bit hard since it's a big app with lots going on.  
I can track down the PID of the transaction which is locking the tables, 
but is there anyway to go from the PID back to the SQL statement(s) in 
the transaction?

Thanks,
Si
Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 11:43:45AM -0800, Si Chen wrote:
 

Thanks, Michael, for the input. Is there anyway in PostgreSQL to force 
some transactions to close (rollback if necessary)? I notice there is no 
way to release a LOCK manually.
   

I'm not aware of a way to terminate a transaction in another session
short of killing its backend process.  PostgreSQL 8.0 has a
pg_cancel_backend() function, but it cancels only a backend's current
query, not any outer transaction it might be part of.
Have you discovered what's holding the conflicting lock?  It would
be prudent to understand what's happening before killing one
transaction just so another can succeed.
 

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Re: [GENERAL] how to release a transaction lock on a table?

2005-02-01 Thread Si Chen
Hi.  Sorry about the confusion in terminology.
You are right.  The transactions are idle--when I do a "ps auxw" on my 
database server, I see "idle in transaction".  Is this what you 
meant, and would the steps you talked about with pg_stat_activity help 
me track down the transactions that are idle?

What's strange is that usually this does not cause problems.  It is just 
occasionally that I am unable to gain access to a table.  Unfortunately 
that also makes it hard to track down the source of the problem.

Thanks for all your help so far--really appreciate it.
Si
Michael Fuhr wrote:
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:53:11AM -0800, Si Chen wrote:
 

I would like to track down what in the application is causing the 
deadlock,
   

Are you sure you understand what "deadlock" means?  Deadlock occurs,
for example, when connection A holds a lock that connection B wants
and connection B holds a lock that connection A wants.  PostgreSQL
should recognize that situation and cause one of the connections
to fail after a timeout (one second by default).  That doesn't sound
like what you're experiencing -- based on what you've said, one
connection holds a lock and another is blocked waiting for it.
 

but it's a bit hard since it's a big app with lots going on.  
I can track down the PID of the transaction which is locking the tables, 
but is there anyway to go from the PID back to the SQL statement(s) in 
the transaction?
   

The query "SELECT * FROM pg_stat_activity" should show connections'
current queries if you have stats_command_string set to "on".  If
stats_command_string is "off" then you can enable it by editing
postgresql.conf and restarting the postmaster, but unfortunately
that won't help you track down queries that are already running.
Is it possible that the transaction holding the lock is idle?  Some
applications use long-lived transactions that can cause locking
problems in other transactions.
 

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[GENERAL] replication

2004-08-06 Thread Si Chen
Hello everyone.
Are there any recommended ways for doing postgresql replication? 

Si Chen
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