[GENERAL] Error in 8.4.4-1 of windows installer from Enterprisedb

2010-06-07 Thread Amber
Hi ,
The installer has an error dealing with directory separator char on windows
platform, it seems the installer causes the server looking for configuration
file path with /, it should be \.  Hoping Enterprisedb engineers can see
this message.


[GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-08-15 Thread Amber
Dear all:
We are currently considering using PostgreSQL to host a read only 
warehouse, we would like to get some experiences, best practices and 
performance metrics from the user community, following is the question list:
1. What's size of your database?
2. What Operating System are you using?
3. What level is your RAID array?
4. How many cores and memory does your server have?
5. What about your performance of join operations?
6. What about your performance of load operations?
7. How many concurrent readers of your database, and what's the average 
transfer rate, suppose all readers are doing one table scaning.
8. Single instance or a cluster, what cluster software are you using if you 
have a cluster?

Thank you in advance!

 
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Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-08-17 Thread Amber
>> 7. How many concurrent readers of your database, and what's the average 
>> transfer rate, suppose all readers are doing one table scaning.
> 
> Concurrent but idle connections in production are around 600.  Active
> connections at a time are in the dozens.  I can read at about 60 to 70
> Megs a second for random access and around 350 to 400 Megs a second
> for sequential reads.
> 


I am not so familiar with PostgreSQL, it uses a one process per connection 
architecture, let me say one agent process per client , what I am wondering is 
how multiple agent process share page caches. In many other databases, client 
agents uses the multiple thread method, so they can share memory buffers within 
the same process, are there share-memory mechanisms between PostgreSQL agent 
processes?  
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Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-08-21 Thread Amber


> On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 11:42 +0800, Amber wrote: 
>> Dear all:
>> We are currently considering using PostgreSQL to host a read only 
>> warehouse, we would like to get some experiences, best practices and 
>> performance metrics from the user community, following is the question list:
>> 1. What's size of your database?
>> 2. What Operating System are you using?
>> 3. What level is your RAID array?
>> 4. How many cores and memory does your server have?
>> 5. What about your performance of join operations?
>> 6. What about your performance of load operations?
>> 7. How many concurrent readers of your database, and what's the average 
>> transfer rate, suppose all readers are doing one table scaning.
>> 8. Single instance or a cluster, what cluster software are you using if you 
>> have a cluster?
>> 
>> Thank you in advance!
> 
> 1. 2.5-3TB, several others that are of fractional sisize.


   How many CPU cores and memory does your server have :) 
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Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-08-21 Thread Amber
Another question, how many people are there maintaining this huge database.
We have about 2T of compressed SAS datasets, and now considering load them into 
a RDBMS database,
according to your experience, it seems a single PostgreSQL  instance can't 
manage such size databases well, it that right?

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> 
> 
>> On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 11:42 +0800, Amber wrote: 
>>> Dear all:
>>> We are currently considering using PostgreSQL to host a read only 
>>> warehouse, we would like to get some experiences, best practices and 
>>> performance metrics from the user community, following is the question list:
>>> 1. What's size of your database?
>>> 2. What Operating System are you using?
>>> 3. What level is your RAID array?
>>> 4. How many cores and memory does your server have?
>>> 5. What about your performance of join operations?
>>> 6. What about your performance of load operations?
>>> 7. How many concurrent readers of your database, and what's the average 
>>> transfer rate, suppose all readers are doing one table scaning.
>>> 8. Single instance or a cluster, what cluster software are you using if you 
>>> have a cluster?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance!
>> 
>> 1. 2.5-3TB, several others that are of fractional sisize.
> 
> 
>   How many CPU cores and memory does your server have :) 
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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL TPC-H test result?

2008-09-09 Thread Amber
I read something from 
http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/SQL/Benchmark/TPCH/index.html saying 
that PostgreSQL can't give the correct result of the some TPC-H queries, I 
wonder is there any official statements about this, because it will affect our 
plane of using PostgreSQL as an alternative because it's usability. BTW I don't 
think PostgreSQL performances worse because the default configuration usually 
can't use enough resources of the computer, as as memory.

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL TPC-H test result?

2008-09-09 Thread Amber
Yes, we don't care about the performance results, but we do care about the 
point that PostgreSQL can't give the correct results of TPC-H queries.

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> On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 07:59:49PM +0800, Amber wrote:
> 
>> I read something from
>> http://monetdb.cwi.nl/projects/monetdb/SQL/Benchmark/TPCH/index.html
> 
> Given that the point of that "study" is to prove something about
> performance, one should be leery of any claims based on an "out of the
> box" comparison.  Particularly since the "box" their own product comes
> out of is "compiled from CVS checkout".  Their argument seems to be
> that people can learn how to drive CVS and to compile software under
> active development, but can't read the manual that comes with Postgres
> (and a release of Postgres well over a year old, at that).  
> 
> I didn't get any further in reading the claims, because it's obviously
> nothing more than a marketing effort using the principle that deriding
> everyone else will make them look better.  Whether they have a good
> product is another question entirely.
> 
> A
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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL process architecture question.

2008-09-09 Thread Amber
We know PostgreSQL uses one dedicated server process to serve one client 
connection, what we want to know is whether PostgreSQL use multiple threads 
inside agents processes to take advantage of multiple CPUs. In our site we have 
only a few concurrent connections, so what occurs inside agent process is very 
important to us.

Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-09-10 Thread Amber
> 8. We have a master and a replica.  We have plans to move to a
> cluster/grid Soon(TM).  It's not an emergency and Postgres can easily
> handle and scale to a 3TB database on reasonable hardware (<$30k).
> 

I'd like to know what's your progress of choosing the cluster/grid solution, we 
are also looking for
an appropriate one, following is the our major factors of the ideal solution.

1. Some kind of MPP.
2. No single point of failure.
3. Convenient and multiple access interfaces.

And following the is the solutions we have examined:

1. Slony-I: Not a MPP solution, and using triggers to detect changes, which 
defects performance.
2. pgpool-II: Some kind of MPP, but join operations can't be done on multiple 
machines parallelly, that is it can't scale out well.
3. Sequoia : The same problem as pgpool-II, and the major access interface is 
JDBC.
 
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Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-09-10 Thread Amber
> Yahoo has a 2PB Postgres single instance Postgres database (modified
> engine), but the biggest pure Pg single instance I've heard of is 4TB.
> The 4TB database has the additional interesting property in that they've
> done none of the standard "scalable" architecture changes (such as
> partitioning, etc).  To me, this is really a shining example that even
> naive Postgres databases can scale to as much hardware as you're willing
> to throw at them.  Of course, clever solutions will get you much more
> bang for your hardware buck.

Can you share some ideas of the particular design of the 4T db, it sounds very 
interesting :) 
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Re: [GENERAL] What's size of your PostgreSQL Database?

2008-09-10 Thread Amber
Yes, we know both Greenplum and Netezza are  PostgreSQL based MPP solutions, 
but they are commercial packages.
I'd like to know are there open source ones, and I would suggest the PostgreSQL 
Team to start a MPP version of PostgreSQL.

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> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:17:40 +0800
> "Amber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 1. Some kind of MPP.
>> 2. No single point of failure.
>> 3. Convenient and multiple access interfaces.
>> 
>> And following the is the solutions we have examined:
> 
> http://www.greenplum.com/
> 
> Joshua D. Drake
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