[GENERAL] Question on Trigram GIST indexes
@Moderators: I am reposting this because the original from 22 December apparently didn't arrive on the list. I was trying to make Postgresql use a trigram gist index on a varchar field, but to no avail. Specifically, I was trying to replicate what is done in this blog post: http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/archives/212-PostgreSQL-9.1-Trigrams-teaching-LIKE-and-ILIKE-new-tricks.html I use Postgresql 9.1.7 on Linux FC17 64bit, my locale is UTF8. My full table definition is CREATE TABLE "TEST" ( "RECID" bigint NOT NULL DEFAULT next_id(), "TST_PAYLOAD" character varying(255), CONSTRAINT "PK_TEST" PRIMARY KEY ("RECID") USING INDEX TABLESPACE local ) WITH ( OIDS=FALSE ); CREATE INDEX "TEST_PAYLOAD_PATTERN_1_IDX" ON "TEST" USING btree ("TST_PAYLOAD" COLLATE pg_catalog."default" varchar_pattern_ops) TABLESPACE local; CREATE INDEX "TEST_PAYLOAD_TRIGRAM_GIST_1_IDX" ON "TEST" USING gist ("TST_PAYLOAD" COLLATE pg_catalog."default" gist_trgm_ops) TABLESPACE local; CREATE INDEX "TEST_PAYLOAD_TRIGRAM_GIN_1_IDX" ON "TEST" USING gin ("TST_PAYLOAD" COLLATE pg_catalog."default" gin_trgm_ops) TABLESPACE local; The COLLATE pg_catalog."default" clause is inserted by the DB (default is "Unicode"). I also tried to define the Trigram index with COLLATE pg_catalog."C" but the behavior did not change. I did vacuum and analyze after creating each index. The field "TST_PAYLOAD" contains 26389 names of cities, all in uppercase. I have pg_tgrm installed - actually all extensions are present. Queries which use "WHERE "TST_PAYLOAD" LIKE 'SEAT%'" go to the btree index as it should. Queries which use "WHERE "TST_PAYLOAD" LIKE '%EAT%'" *should* use the GIST index but do a full table scan instead. (I am looking for names like 'SEATTLE' in this example) I also tried dropping the btree index but that has no influence on the behavior. I have texts/strings in different languages/charsets, so UTF8 looked like the best decision to me, instead of, say, ISO-8859-15, which is limited to just some European charsets. Specifically I am storing strings in European languages (corresponding to the ISO-8859 series) including diacrites line äöüñáéíóú ..., Russian, Arabic, Chinese etc. in one column instead of making different columns/tables and using them via a view because that's my use case and UTF8 should accommodate that IMHO (or is that an abuse of the DB?) Would it help to `ALTER DATABASE set lc_collate = 'C'`,supposing that is possible? (Oracle doesn't allow that iirc). Thanks for any insights, pointers ... I'd be grateful if anybody could explain to me what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance.
[GENERAL] Counterintuitive locking behavior
Hi everyone; I recently discovered that subselects in update statements don't assume that the select is for update of the updating table. For example, if I do this: CREATE TABLE foo ( test int primary key, ); INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1); then in one session: BEGIN; UPDATE foo SET test = 2 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); and then in the other session BEGIN; UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); When I commit both transactions, the second one chronologically always takes precedence. In other words, the locks takes effect after the subselect but before the rows are updated. This strikes me as quite error prone and quite a bit more error prone than a rule which says that unless stated otherwise subselects of the updated table are to be selected for update. This may strike some as a "do what I mean" kind of feature, but the way I am looking at it is that a SQL statement is usually written as a declarative block, and an assumption that the SQL statement is to be evaluated atomically is a good one for predicability of software (in other words, locks apply to the whole statement). Is there a reason why we don't do locking this way? (i.e. where on UPDATE foo, all rows selected from foo during the update are locked unless the subselect specifically states otherwise.) Best Wishes, Chris Travers
Re: [GENERAL] Counterintuitive locking behavior
On Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:48 AM Chris Travers wrote: > I recently discovered that subselects in update statements don't assume that > the select is for update of the updating table. > For example, if I do this: > CREATE TABLE foo ( > test int primary key, > ); > INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1); > then in one session: > BEGIN; > UPDATE foo SET test = 2 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); > and then in the other session > BEGIN; > UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); The behavior will be same even for UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test =1; > Is there a reason why we don't do locking this way? (i.e. where on UPDATE > foo, all rows selected from foo during the > update are locked unless the subselect specifically states otherwise.) The reason for this behavior is if it locks all rows during select, then it can so happen that Update will actually not happen on the row but it will be locked. For example UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1) and FALSE; Now in this case if it locks the rows during subselect, then the rows will be locked during whole transaction irrespective of the fact that they will not be updated. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Counterintuitive locking behavior
On Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:10 AM Amit kapila wrote: On Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:48 AM Chris Travers wrote: >> Is there a reason why we don't do locking this way? (i.e. where on UPDATE >> foo, all rows selected from foo during the >> update are locked unless the subselect specifically states otherwise.) >The reason for this behavior is if it locks all rows during select, then it >can so happen that Update will actually not happen on the row but it will be >locked. > For example > UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1) > and FALSE; > Now in this case if it locks the rows during subselect, then the rows will be > locked during whole transaction > irrespective of the fact that they will not be updated. In the above example and FALSE, I mean to say any other subquery which will yield the overall condition to not return any row. Similarly there can be many more scenarios where only half of the selected rows (by one of the conds. ) will be actual candidates of Update. With Regards, Amit Kapila. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Counterintuitive locking behavior
2013-01-06 03:18 keltezéssel, Chris Travers írta: Hi everyone; I recently discovered that subselects in update statements don't assume that the select is for update of the updating table. For example, if I do this: CREATE TABLE foo ( test int primary key, ); INSERT INTO foo VALUES (1); then in one session: BEGIN; UPDATE foo SET test = 2 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); and then in the other session BEGIN; UPDATE foo SET test = 3 WHERE test in (select test from foo where test = 1); When I commit both transactions, the second one chronologically always takes precedence. In other words, the locks takes effect after the subselect but before the rows are updated. This strikes me as quite error prone and quite a bit more error prone than a rule which says that unless stated otherwise subselects of the updated table are to be selected for update. This may strike some as a "do what I mean" kind of feature, but the way I am looking at it is that a SQL statement is usually written as a declarative block, and an assumption that the SQL statement is to be evaluated atomically is a good one for predicability of software (in other words, locks apply to the whole statement). Is there a reason why we don't do locking this way? (i.e. where on UPDATE foo, all rows selected from foo during the update are locked unless the subselect specifically states otherwise.) What you are seeing is the MVCC behaviour of PostgreSQL in READ COMMITTED mode. You can use REPEATABLE READ mode in 9.2.x or SERIALIZABLE mode in earlier generations. Please read the "Concurrency control" section of the documentation. http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.2/interactive/mvcc.html With this mode: session 1: zozo=> create table foo (test int primary key); NOTICE: CREATE TABLE / PRIMARY KEY will create implicit index "foo_pkey" for table "foo" CREATE TABLE zozo=> insert into foo values (1); INSERT 0 1 zozo=> begin isolation level repeatable read; BEGIN zozo=> update foo set test = 2 where test = (select test from foo where test = 1); UPDATE 1 session 2: zozo=> begin isolation level repeatable read; BEGIN zozo=> update foo set test = 2 where test = (select test from foo where test = 1); (session 2 is waiting for the lock on the row at this point) session 1: zozo=> commit; COMMIT session 2 threw an error after session 1 committed: ERROR: could not serialize access due to concurrent update But updating a row blindly is quite silly even in this small example, you can use SELECT ... FOR UPDATE for explicit locking. session 1: zozo=> begin; BEGIN zozo=> select * from foo where test = 1 for update; test -- 1 (1 row) session 2: zozo=> begin; BEGIN zozo=> select * from foo where test = 1 for update; session 2 waits... session 1: zozo=> update foo set test = 2 where test = 1; UPDATE 1 zozo=> commit; COMMIT session 2 now gives the result: zozo=> select * from foo where test = 1 for update; test -- (0 rows) and your application can warn the user that the row is not there anymore, so no point in the subsequent UPDATE. You should do a new query to find the row you wanted. Best regards, Zoltán Böszörményi -- -- Zoltán Böszörményi Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH Gröhrmühlgasse 26 A-2700 Wiener Neustadt, Austria Web: http://www.postgresql-support.de http://www.postgresql.at/ -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general