PostgreSQL MVCC and alternative REDO implementation - my thoughts

2018-11-17 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

Hello,

I just read that blog article and I think switching to REDO logic is not 
a good idea.


REDO has the following disadvantages, think of the following scenario: 
Delete a lot of rows having 1 petabyte of data.
1.) PostgreSQL: has just do mark the rows as deleted, afterwards they 
have to be cleaned up by (auto)vacuum. No data has to be written! Will 
be quite fast.
2.) REDO logic: The deleted 1 petabyte of data (!) has to written for 
crash consistency reasons at least into REDO files. And that might take 
time, hours, days, weeks, month.


So please don't give up the implementation of PostgreSQL MVCC.
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/MVCC

What's the plan?

Thank you.

Ciao,
Gerhard



Re: PostgreSQL MVCC and alternative REDO implementation - my thoughts

2018-11-18 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

On 18.11.2018 12:14, Martín Marqués wrote:

El 18/11/18 a las 04:49, Gerhard Wiesinger escribió:

Hello,

I just read that blog article and I think switching to REDO logic is not
a good idea.

I think you got it the other way around. Postgres implementes REDO, that
is, move forward by REDOing the changes which are stored in WAL files

BTW, could you point us to the blog you read this?

Maybe you got REDO and UNDO mixed up.



Yes, I ment UNDO ...

Link is here:

https://severalnines.com/blog/five-cool-things-i-learned-postgresql-conference-europe-2018

sunday morning, too early :-)

Ciao,

Gerhard





Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo

2024-12-04 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

Hello,

Any chance to get Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of 
Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo quickly?


Thnx.

Ciao,
Gerhard





Re: Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo

2024-12-05 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

Hello,

I'm talking about PGDG maintained repository (and not Fedora maintained) 
where pgpool is located:

https://download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/common/fedora/fedora-40-x86_64/
https://download.postgresql.org/pub/repos/yum/common/fedora/fedora-41-x86_64/

Currently installed package:
pgpool-II-4.5.4-1PGDG.f40.x86_64

Thnx.

Ciao,
Gerhard



On 05.12.2024 08:43, Christiano Anderson wrote:

Hi,

I'm Fedora package maintainer (but not of the pgpool package). It's 
the package maintainer's responsibility to update the package in 
different Fedora versions (40, 41 and Rawhide).


There is already a ticket for this update: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305049


Maybe it's a matter of time until the new version is available, but 
you can also contact the developer directly: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/postgresql-pgpool-II


Best,

Christiano

On 05/12/2024 07:16, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote:

Hello,

Any chance to get Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of 
Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo quickly?


Thnx.

Ciao,
Gerhard













Re: Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo

2024-12-28 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

On 28.12.2024 18:49, Devrim Gündüz wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 2024-12-05 at 07:16 +0100, Gerhard Wiesinger wrote:

Any chance to get Updated Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 RPM packages of
Pgpool-II 4.5.5 in the repo quickly?

FWIW I updated the packages in PGDG repo a couple of weeks back.

Regards,


Yes, thnk. Works well.

Ciao,

Gerhard