Re: trouble making PG use my Perl

2020-02-29 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2020-02-28 07:13:12 -0600, Steven Lembark wrote:
> If you use the centos pre-compiled glob then you'll get their 
> pre-compiled paths to their pre-compiled Perl which, among
> other things, is compiled with all optimization turned off, 
> with 5.00503 compatibility turned *on*, and a host of other
> pure idiocies that make their perl unsuitable for human use.

I don't have access to a current CentOS, but both claims are wrong for
even the ancient RHEL 6 systems we still have around for some reason.

I find it hard to believe that someone would find it necessary to turn
on bincompat5005 in 2019 when they already considered that obsolete in
2010.

Same for optimization. There are some optimizations that a general
purpose binary distribution like RHEL can't do (like optimizing for a
specific processor type), but frankly I doubt that perl's Configure
turns them on.

hp

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Re: trouble making PG use my Perl

2020-02-29 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2020-02-28 07:17:27 -0600, Steven Lembark wrote:
> RH and Debian distros are distriuted by heavy Python users who
> go out of their way to hamstring Perl at every step.

That's just complete bullshit, at least for Debian (I don't have current
experience with Redhat). The maintainer system makes that very unlikely.

> Unless things have changed massively, the Perl they distribute is not
> only out of date it's nearly broken out of the box.

I have been programming in Perl for 25 years, much of that time on
Redhat and Debian systems. Perl was sometimes a bit out of date (usually
because the OS was a bit out of date - that's the price you pay for
stability), but never as much as on commercial Unixes like HP-UX or
Solaris, and it was never broken. I have occasionally compiled perl
myself, usually because I wanted to try out some new features, sometimes
because I tried to make it faster. But for production use I've almost
always used the system-supplied perl.

hp

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