[BUGS] Possible Bug?

2002-07-09 Thread Francis Reader

We are running pg 7.1.3. x86 Redhat 6.1 with 2.4.17 and glibc 2.2.2.

We have several s/w subsystems which keep some pg backends open for a VERY
period of time. (Well the whole time the machine is powered up.), and others
which have a short lifetime when connected to pg backends.

The total amount of data stored within the database is relatively small <
30Mb.

We have seen occurences when pg runs out of disk space (currently it has
approx 90Mb allocated to it) and fails.

In some circumstances we have noticed that some backends still have file
descriptors open to /pg_xlog/* files even though they have obviously
been deleted some while ago when that wal file was no longer referenced.

Is this expected behaviour? Or just an artifact that the backend life is
prolonged in our use of pg.

We have started experimenting with wal_files and checkpoint_segment settings
to see how that affects both the number of wal file created and whether or
not they get deleted correctly. 

At the time of writing, even with wal_files =1 and checkpoint_segment =1 pg
appeared to have one current wal file and one which had been deleted and
still referenced by a backend. (You can observer these by "ls -l
/proc/*/fd/* | grep xlog" )

eg:
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/1576/fd/36 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/0002 (deleted)
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/1613/fd/36 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/ (deleted)
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/1672/fd/36 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/ (deleted)
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/1763/fd/36 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/ (deleted)
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/1803/fd/26 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/ (deleted)
lrwx--   1 postgres postgres   64 Apr 22 21:20 /proc/3241/fd/36 
-> /db/live/pg_xlog/0000 (deleted)


TIA 

Francis Reader



 
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Re: [BUGS] Possible Bug? TEST CASE

2002-07-16 Thread Francis Reader

The following is a simple test case to demonstrate a backend not closing a
file descriptor to wal file, under Linux 2.4.17 and PG 7.1.3

In session1:
Using psql  cmd, create a table.
Perform an insert on that table.

In session2:
Issue psql 

run "ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep pg_xlog"
This will list all of the backends which have open any wal files. (The
process for session1: can be observed at this point.)

In session3:
Generate lots of large transactions that force a new wal file to be created
and used.

Once the new wal file has started to be used by the actions performed in
session3, stop all activity.

After the CHECKPOINT_TIMEOUT time has been reached, the backend which had
the original pqsl connection (session1:) now has had its wal file deleted
from underneath it.
running "ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep pg_xlog" will show that.
If the database is in its own partition, running "df" and "du -c" will whow
differing totals.

To conclude, if you have many clients whose backends have infrequent write
accesses and then long periods of inactivity, but whose connection to the
database is left open, and other backends that are active which march on and
create new wal files, many "(deleted)" wal can be created which are ONLY
cleared up, with the closing of the backend or when another write access on
the db from that backend.

We believe that in 7.2, this issue can be avoided by precreating the a set
number of wal files, and new wal file will rename the older one. (The file
descriptors to these files will point to the new renamed wal file, rather
than the old name.)

As another point, is there a way to TURN OFF WAL completely


Francis Reader


 
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