[BUGS] BUG #8036: how to disable toasting

2013-04-04 Thread zahid . quadri
The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference:  8036
Logged by:  anonymous
Email address:  zahid.qua...@cloverinfotech.com
PostgreSQL version: 9.0.5
Operating system:   windows
Description:

how to disable toasting in postgresql 9.0 please guide



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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8036: how to disable toasting

2013-04-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Thu, Apr  4, 2013 at 11:12:54AM +, zahid.qua...@cloverinfotech.com wrote:
> The following bug has been logged on the website:
> 
> Bug reference:  8036
> Logged by:  anonymous
> Email address:  zahid.qua...@cloverinfotech.com
> PostgreSQL version: 9.0.5
> Operating system:   windows
> Description:
> 
> how to disable toasting in postgresql 9.0 please guide

See ALTER TABLE SET STORAGE.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8036: how to disable toasting

2013-04-04 Thread Kevin Grittner
This is not a bug report; please use the pgsql-general list for
questions like this, or for any follow-up on this question.

"zahid.qua...@cloverinfotech.com"  wrote:

> PostgreSQL version: 9.0.5

You need to update to 9.0.13 as soon as possible.

http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/

http://www.postgresql.org/support/security/faq/2013-04-04/

> how to disable toasting in postgresql 9.0 please guide

Use a statement like this for each column which you want to keep in
the main record (where the row still fits on the page):

  ALTER TABLE tablename ALTER COLUMN colname SET STORAGE MAIN;

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/sql-altertable.html

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/interactive/storage-toast.html

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[BUGS] pg_stat_statements doesn't work with --disable-spinlocks

2013-04-04 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
pg_stat_statements (re-)initializes spinlocks as part of normal 
operation. With --disable-spinlock, spinlocks are implemented using 
semaphores, and semaphores are expected to be created at postmaster 
startup. Hence, you get an assertion failure:


postgres=# select * from pg_stat_statements ;
The connection to the server was lost. Attempting reset: Failed.
!>

TRAP: FailedAssertion("!(!IsUnderPostmaster)", File: "pg_sema.c", Line: 326)

Even if that worked, re-initializing a spinlock with SpinLockInit, like 
pg_stat_statement does, would always allocate a new semaphore, so you 
would run out very quickly.


- Heikki


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Re: [BUGS] pg_stat_statements doesn't work with --disable-spinlocks

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Lane
Heikki Linnakangas  writes:
> pg_stat_statements (re-)initializes spinlocks as part of normal 
> operation. With --disable-spinlock, spinlocks are implemented using 
> semaphores, and semaphores are expected to be created at postmaster 
> startup. Hence, you get an assertion failure:

> postgres=# select * from pg_stat_statements ;
> The connection to the server was lost. Attempting reset: Failed.
> !>

> TRAP: FailedAssertion("!(!IsUnderPostmaster)", File: "pg_sema.c", Line: 326)

> Even if that worked, re-initializing a spinlock with SpinLockInit, like 
> pg_stat_statement does, would always allocate a new semaphore, so you 
> would run out very quickly.

You'd run out even without that, since we're only leaving a dozen or two
extra semaphores available, and this code wants a spinlock per hash
entry.

I think that we can probably write this off as an unsupported
combination.  If you're running without real spinlocks, any sort of
performance optimization is a complete waste of time until you fix that,
so what's the point of using pg_stat_statements?

Having said that, though, I agree that assuming that spinlocks can be
reinitialized is being overly intimate with the implementation details.
It's not too hard to imagine it failing with some future version of
spinlocks, even disregarding the rather dubious assumption that no two
processes would be touching the new entry at about the same time.
We should probably try to find a way of avoiding that.

regards, tom lane


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8034: pg_buffercache gets invalid memory alloc request size with very large shared memory buffers

2013-04-04 Thread Mark Kirkwood

On 03/04/13 08:44, dben...@whitepages.com wrote:

The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference:  8034
Logged by:  Devin Ben-Hur
Email address:  dben...@whitepages.com
PostgreSQL version: 9.2.3
Operating system:   Ubuntu Precise
Description:

When a very large shared buffer pool (~480GB) is used with postgresql,
pg_buffercache contrib module gets an allocation error trying to Allocate
NBuffers worth of BufferCachePagesRec records:

https://github.com/postgres/postgres/blob/REL9_2_3/contrib/pg_buffercache/pg_buffercache_pages.c#L101-L102

The requested allocation exceeds the 1GB limitation imposed by
AllocSizeIsValid macro:
https://github.com/postgres/postgres/blob/REL9_2_3/src/include/utils/memutils.h#L40-L43

Reproduce:
1) acquire server with half terabyte of memory
2) tweak OS settings to allow large shared memory
3) set postgresql.conf: shared_buffers = 400GB
4) CREATE EXTENSION pg_buffercache;
5) SELECT * FROM pg_buffercache LIMIT 1;





Yes indeed - however I'm not sure this is likely to be encountered in 
any serious configuration. The general rule for sizing shared buffers is:


shared_buffers = min(0.25 * RAM, 8G)

Now there has been some discussion about how settings bigger than 8G 
make sense in some cases...but I'm not aware of any suggestions that 
sizes in the hundreds of G make sense.


However it would be nice if pg_buffercache *could* work with bigger 
sizes if they make sense at any time.  Someone who understands the 
memory allocation system better than I do will need to comment about how 
that might work :-)


Cheers

Mark


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8034: pg_buffercache gets invalid memory alloc request size with very large shared memory buffers

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Lane
Mark Kirkwood  writes:
>> When a very large shared buffer pool (~480GB) is used with postgresql,
>> pg_buffercache contrib module gets an allocation error trying to Allocate
>> NBuffers worth of BufferCachePagesRec records:

> Yes indeed - however I'm not sure this is likely to be encountered in 
> any serious configuration.

I too am a bit skeptical of trying to make this actually work.  For one
thing, pg_buffercache would be locking down the entire buffer arena for
a rather significant amount of time while it transfers gigabytes of data
into the local array.  What would likely make more sense, if we ever get
to the point where this is a practical size of configuration, is to
provide a mechanism to read out data for just a portion of the arena
at a time.

> However it would be nice if pg_buffercache *could* work with bigger 
> sizes if they make sense at any time.  Someone who understands the 
> memory allocation system better than I do will need to comment about how 
> that might work :-)

There has been some discussion of inventing a "big_palloc"
infrastructure to allow allocation of arrays larger than 1GB, for use
in places like the sort code.  If we ever get around to doing that,
it'd be straightforward enough to make pg_buffercache use the facility
... but I really doubt pg_buffercache itself is a sufficient reason
to do it.

regards, tom lane


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