Re: [pgadmin-support] Pgadmin4: ability to terminate the backend process from the list of processes and highlight activity

2016-11-18 Thread Dave Page
Hi

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Doug Easterbrook  wrote:
> hi dave:
>
> A feature we used in pg admin 3 a fair bit was to terminate a rogue process
> — it was easy enough looking at the list of processes and clicking on one
> and hitting the terminate button.

That's already logged at https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1812

> why do we have rogue processes or things we want to kill — sometimes a
> customer may throw off a long running process a bunch of times which would
> kill performance of their machine … and it was highlighted in  the list of
> processes with a different colour based on active, blocked, or what have
> you.

https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1975

> in pgAdmin4, we have to refresh the list of sessions (curiously enough,
> thats ok .. in fact sometimes better than pgadmin 3 because the auto refresh
> could slow things down).

Personally I prefer it not auto-updating. Makes it easier to read
without it changing while you're halfway through.

> what is missing are a couple of helpful things:
> - the state change and/or query start columns as options

Yeah, I think what we need to do is either allow users to select which
columns they see in the preferences, or use the subnode control so you
can expand a row and see the additional info. Which do you think would
be preferable?

> - and/or .. some sort of colour code on the row that shows long running
> queries
>
> - and the key request — a context menu item that would allow termination of
> the pid via pg_terminate_backend
>
>
> it would let us have a monitor on activity (the graphs are great) .. and a
> refresh to see who’s taking the cpu … and a way to kill the process  — all
> on the dashboard.
>
>
>
> thanks again.   and truly, the more I play, the more I appreciate what
> you have done.
>
>
> Doug Easterbrook
> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
> mailto:d...@artsman.com
> http://www.artsman.com
> Phone (403) 650-1978
>



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[pgadmin-support] My issue with pgAdmin 4

2016-11-18 Thread rvt
Hey All,

first of all... I love open source, and I hate to give negative feedback and
it took me a while to decide to to give the feedback or just keep it to
myself...

I tried pgAdmin4 a few times now, but I cannot get used to it, here are my
biggest issues with it.

1) The windows animations slow thing's down to much. Please have a option to
turn all animations off.

2) It's a single window application and it doesn't allow me to drag windows
around on my desktop, hide the windows I don't need etc.

3) Some icons or fonts look very blurred on my screen (5K screen 27" imac)..

4) The menu is not where where it suppose to be.

5) Some screens appear slow to me with a 'loading' icon, even without the
windows it takes took long to 'draw' the screen. Where in pgAdmin 3 a lot of
items are near instance, in pgAdmin4 it takes time to display.

6) pgAdmin3 Memory :  60Mb (4 threads), pgAdmin4 Memory : 330Mb (15 threads)

7) Clicking on a table in the tree doesnt do anything in pgAdmin4, in
pgAdmin3 it shows me the table definition.


For me, the fact that's a single window application is the biggest issue of
pgAdmin4, it just feel very right and natural, second issue is the
slowdowns, it doesn't feel 'snappy', every action takes time and/or doesn't
act like a desktop application.

I very much appreciate the work that has been into the application and I
really hope I am the only one with the above items.

cheers,




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Re: [pgadmin-support] Pgadmin4: ability to terminate the backend process from the list of processes and highlight activity

2016-11-18 Thread Doug Easterbrook
hi Dave:

> Yeah, I think what we need to do is either allow users to select which
> columns they see in the preferences, or use the subnode control so you
> can expand a row and see the additional info. Which do you think would
> be preferable?

you asked about this — with our own users, we are finding that more and 
more people have wide monitors …  which lends to people having the ability to 
show lots of columns on any list.

if the columns are resizeable (and perhaps moveable), then I think I’d lean 
towards customizing columns.  That allows more date across the screen. That 
way you can see more more rows, and therefore more processes.

it it not always that you want extra columns … and preferences as to which — is 
good.

so my recap:
— column resizing
— all in one row
— customizable columns

in order to see most date at one time.


I hope that helps.



Doug Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems Ltd.
mailto:d...@artsman.com
http://www.artsman.com
Phone (403) 650-1978

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 2:43 AM, Dave Page  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Doug Easterbrook  wrote:
>> hi dave:
>> 
>> A feature we used in pg admin 3 a fair bit was to terminate a rogue process
>> — it was easy enough looking at the list of processes and clicking on one
>> and hitting the terminate button.
> 
> That's already logged at https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1812
> 
>> why do we have rogue processes or things we want to kill — sometimes a
>> customer may throw off a long running process a bunch of times which would
>> kill performance of their machine … and it was highlighted in  the list of
>> processes with a different colour based on active, blocked, or what have
>> you.
> 
> https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1975
> 
>> in pgAdmin4, we have to refresh the list of sessions (curiously enough,
>> thats ok .. in fact sometimes better than pgadmin 3 because the auto refresh
>> could slow things down).
> 
> Personally I prefer it not auto-updating. Makes it easier to read
> without it changing while you're halfway through.
> 
>> what is missing are a couple of helpful things:
>> - the state change and/or query start columns as options
> 
> Yeah, I think what we need to do is either allow users to select which
> columns they see in the preferences, or use the subnode control so you
> can expand a row and see the additional info. Which do you think would
> be preferable?
> 
>> - and/or .. some sort of colour code on the row that shows long running
>> queries
>> 
>> - and the key request — a context menu item that would allow termination of
>> the pid via pg_terminate_backend
>> 
>> 
>> it would let us have a monitor on activity (the graphs are great) .. and a
>> refresh to see who’s taking the cpu … and a way to kill the process  — all
>> on the dashboard.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> thanks again.   and truly, the more I play, the more I appreciate what
>> you have done.
>> 
>> 
>> Doug Easterbrook
>> Arts Management Systems Ltd.
>> mailto:d...@artsman.com
>> http://www.artsman.com
>> Phone (403) 650-1978
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [pgadmin-support] Pgadmin4: ability to terminate the backend process from the list of processes and highlight activity

2016-11-18 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Doug Easterbrook  wrote:
> hi Dave:
>
> Yeah, I think what we need to do is either allow users to select which
> columns they see in the preferences, or use the subnode control so you
> can expand a row and see the additional info. Which do you think would
> be preferable?
>
>
> you asked about this — with our own users, we are finding that more and
> more people have wide monitors …  which lends to people having the ability
> to show lots of columns on any list.
>
> if the columns are resizeable (and perhaps moveable), then I think I’d lean
> towards customizing columns.  That allows more date across the screen.
> That way you can see more more rows, and therefore more processes.
>
> it it not always that you want extra columns … and preferences as to which —
> is good.
>
> so my recap:
> — column resizing
> — all in one row
> — customizable columns
>
> in order to see most date at one time.
>
>
> I hope that helps.

Makes sense - https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1977

Thanks!


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[pgadmin-support] Sortable statistics columns not sorted according to type

2016-11-18 Thread Andreas Kinzler

Hello,

sortable columns like "tuples inserted" should be sorted according to 
their type (=integer) not as string.


Regards Andreas



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Re: [pgadmin-support] Sortable statistics columns not sorted according to type

2016-11-18 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Andreas Kinzler  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> sortable columns like "tuples inserted" should be sorted according to their
> type (=integer) not as string.

Thanks, this has already been logged: https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1938


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