Dave,
Seeing that IE isn't standards compliant and not only is not being further
developed, but Microsoft is actively discouraging its use, it is probably
time to drop support for it.
I would caution *against* using browser analytics as any sort of proxy for
use. Since pgAdmin 4 lacks a UI of its own, I rely on an instance of
Chromium (or Vivalidi, or Firefox, depending on the machine) to run pgAdmin
under. In every case, the browser that I am *running* pgAdmin 4 under is
*not* the same browser that I use to browse websites, and so would never
show up in your analytics.
Just something to keep in mind,
rik.
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 8:00 AM Dave Page wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dave Caughey wrote:
>
>> Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In
>> my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about
>> 1% of my users.
>>
>
> Good point - 1.9% of the visitors to the website were on IE this week. 1.8
> of those were on IE11. We even had one hit from IE5...
>
> By comparison, 72% of users were on Chrome, 13% on Firefox, with 5.5% each
> for Safari and Edge.
>
>
>>
>> So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing me from fully
>> adopting ES6), and there was not a single complaint from my users.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue., Apr. 7, 2020, 3:36 a.m. Dave Page, wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even
>>> that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11
>>> was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to
>>> supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable
>>> new features in almost it's entire lifetime, and certainly in recent years
>>> Microsoft have only been releasing security fixes.
>>>
>>> As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost
>>> to it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need to test with it as well
>>> as Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTML that is fully
>>> compatible with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. By comparison,
>>> for all other browsers we typically aim to support releases no more than 2
>>> years old.
>>>
>>> I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet
>>> Explorer. Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone
>>> reporting a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser.
>>>
>>> Objections/comments please?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
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>>>
>>
>
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