Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:58:45AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote: > > @foo wa kaite kudasai; > > Surely they only need to go at the end if they're in a Japanese script? > The Latin alphabet transliteration could still sit in front. No, IMO they'd still need to go at the end. Now, whether "the end" is the left, right, or bottom depends on which way you're righting. (I've never come across Japanese being written from bottom to top.) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Adam Turoff wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:58:45AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
> > Yes, but if we go down that route, we're gonna end up with all the
> > verbs at the end. Instead of "print @foo", we get something like:
> >
> > @foo wa kaite kudasai;
>
> So,
>
>mitsu no @foo wa kaite kudasai; # print $foo[3];
That should probably be something with "@foo no dai-san no youso wo kaite
kudasai"? ("mitsu no @foo" sounds like "the @foo belonging to three", or
maybe "the third @foo" to me.)
> That brings up two questions:
> - what's the ordinal for 'zeroth'
Presumably, dai-rei or dai-zero. (With "zero" being pronounced zeh-ro and
not zee-roh.)
> - are lists 'long-flat-objects' or 'tall-cylindrical-objects'
> or 'short-fat-cylindrical-objects'?
>
> Inquiring gaijin want to know! :-)
;)
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, J. David Blackstone wrote: > [And now they're keeping the newbies locked out by doing all > development work in Japanese.] Well, we might get lots of developers recruited from the Ruby camp ;) Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Dan Sugalski wrote: > At 01:07 AM 10/19/00 -0500, J. David Blackstone wrote: > You're not the only one. (Though it is on my todo list... :) > > >[And now they're keeping the newbies locked out by doing all > >development work in Japanese.] > > Nah. Only those newbies that don't speak Japanese. If we wanted to keep the > newbies out we'd write perl 6 in INTERCAL. :-P I don't think Claudio Calvelli would mind (though I don't know whether he speaks Japanese). Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Larry Wall wrote: > Simon Cozens writes: > : You're learning Japanese, right? It's gotta be "toriaezu".[1] :) > > Yes, but if we go down that route, we're gonna end up with all the > verbs at the end. Instead of "print @foo", we get something like: > > @foo wa kaite kudasai; ^^ Shouldn't that rather be "wo"? Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
John Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > But will there be a "meanuntil"? > > Not to mention "modewhile", "medianuntil", etc. generouswhile, generousuntil... -- Piers
Re: Transcription of Larry's talk
Larry Wall spoke: > > Here are some from the "bad" directory. (reads from one) ... and they > want us to solve the halting problem. No. That was RFC12, mine. I can't figure out why so many people interpret that RFC as requiring a solution to the halting problem. If anything, it explicitly recognizes that the halting problem is insoluble. Many compilers compute reachability; it's not fundamentally hard. Perhaps I should have used the theoretical terms, and talked about use-def and def-use chains, GEN and KILL sets? But that would have limited the audience, and made it an internals RFC. Ah guess what I needs is to explicate them arfseez better. Gomen nasai. Zyuu ni ban wa boku no tsumaranaimono desu yo. I guess I'll try again to get my frozen version accepted into the RFC list. Maybe if I add a "why you don't need to solve the halting problem" section and translate it into Japanese, Larry'll revisit it -- he'll be able to work on perl6 and study Japanese at the same time? :-|
RE: What will be the Perl6 code name ?!!
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Garrett Goebel wrote: > The only acceptable code name other than "Perl6" is "YACN" ;) > What's that? You Actually Cannot Tell? Yes, All the Code is New? Yet Another Crazy Notion? -- Mike Pastore #!Perl Monk [EMAIL PROTECTED] bilogic.org Sys Admin -- perl6: I have moved my subscriptions to a lesser-trafficked box to alleviate some of the stress from my mediaone.net account. It's (apparently) been dropping email. This is not good. You may email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks.
RE: What will be the Perl6 code name ?!!
Garrett Goebel, at 18:47 -0500 on Thu, 19 Oct 2000, wrote: > The only acceptable code name other than "Perl6" is "YACN" ;) Given all this chatter, YAP might be better. You get 1 guess for what "P" stands for. (No it's not Python). -- Frank Tobin http://www.uiuc.edu/~ftobin/
