RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

2006-02-06 Thread Plum, Jason
Actually it was a mistake, thanks for sending it! I was starting to
wonder where the blazes it went!

Yes that restriction might be a bit of an issue, however I *suppose*
information on the control (not the control itself) could be serialized
and sent over a Queue to the process altering the control. I have yet to
test this. Be Careful.


Jason P.

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:51 PM
To: Plum, Jason
Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

I guess you cracked it! This one works great.

I was getting those "Free to wrong pool errors" till I moved the thread
exit 
and join code to the Win_Terminate sub. But that resulted in "Scalars 
leaked".

Wonder whether the constraint of "will need to know what type of control

that handle relates to." will create problems in trying to create neatly

packaged objects.

Btw did you not intend to send this to the list? I felt it is good
enough to 
be archived forever!

Cheers,
Emmanuel


- Original Message - 
From: "Plum, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Emmanuel E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example


AH.. now then...

So.. the bug involving the object being in multiple threads does indeed
still exist! "Free to wrong Pool  not  in
%perl%/site/lib/win32/gui.pm"

The module itself is not thread safe in relation to objects!

BUT! BUT!

By using the *HANDLE* to the object, you can call the relative procedure
directly!

Search for [EMAIL PROTECTED] for alterations.

This leaves the obvious requirement that any code that is going to
directly alter the state of a control will need to know what type of
control that handle relates to.

Jason P.

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:49 PM
To: Plum, Jason; perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

Hi Jason,

Cool stuff!

But would there be a way to avoid those select calls to spend some time
sleeping? I mean if there were a way to do a select on a thread queue it

would be great.

On the other hand why not call Win32::GUI::Dialog() in the main thread
and
let the child threads update the screen?

I mean move this line to within the child threads:
$win->{pbT1}->SetPos($t1_in); and $win->{pbT2}->SetPos($t2_in); ?

If you move the create window code before you create any threads all
child
threads will inherit the window.

I've made a few modifications to your script -
1) Ive disabled the queue, implying shared globals as one way of passing

data to and fro from threads. With the queue gone theres nothing to do
in
the event loop but update the screen using Win32::GUI::Dialog();
2) Ive moved the thread join code into the Window_Terminate sub

However I get the following message when the script exits:
Scalars leaked: 1
Scalars leaked: 1
Wonder what thats related to?

Am attaching the code to avoid syntax errors because of word wraps.

Cheers,
Emmanuel



- Original Message - 
From: "Plum, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example


Hey All,

I was fiddling with some things yesterday and got around to wondering
how I might manage to take some of my more heavy duty linear processes
run in a thread outside of the thread containing the GUI (as we all know
this causes ugly interface lag).

Below is an example, and as with all things perl, this is not the only
way to do it, nor is it necessarily the best way to do it. Consider it a
proof of concept that functions.

This creates worker threads that put values 0-99 consecutively onto a
Queue whiles the function's 'run' semaphore is positive. It also
contains a run-away limiter to prevent the workers from getting too far
ahead of the main thread, containing the window.

Jason P.

__CODE__

use strict;
use warnings;

use threads;
use threads::shared;
use Thread::Queue;
## Create worker threads and associated variables.
## -- THIS MUST BE DONE, AND ALL THREADS STARTED
## -- BEFORE THE WINDOW IS CREATED.
my $TQ1 = new Thread::Queue;
my $TQ2 = new Thread::Queue;

my $ts1_run : shared = 0;
my $ts2_run : shared = 0;

my $thread1 = threads->new(\&Thread1);
my $thread2 = threads->new(\&Thread2);


use Win32::GUI;
## Hide Perl Window
my $perlW = Win32::GUI::GetPerlWindow();
Win32::GUI::Hide($perlW);

## Create Window
my $win = new Win32::GUI::Window(
-name  => 'winMain',
-size  => [200,100],
-pos   => [200,200],
-caption => 'MutliThread E.g.',
-resizeable => 0,
);

$win->AddButton(
-name   => 'btnRun1',
-size   => [50,20],
-pos=> [4,10],
-text   => 'Run 1',
);

$win->AddProgressBar(
-name   => 'pbT1',
-size   => [120,20],
-pos=> [58,10],
-smooth => 1,
);
$win->{pbT1}->SetRange(0

RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

2006-02-06 Thread Jeremy White

Actually it was a mistake, thanks for sending it! I was starting to
wonder where the blazes it went!

Yes that restriction might be a bit of an issue, however I *suppose*
information on the control (not the control itself) could be serialized
and sent over a Queue to the process altering the control. I have yet to
test this. Be Careful.


A few months back I hinted at some code that Rob had built that would make 
threading coding much easier for Win32-GUI apps. In light of your recent 
examples, I've dropped him an offlist mail suggesting that his code be 
available to more people. Although not complete, it is a great platform to 
build from.


One of the problems that Rob's code solves is that one end of a thread 
message queue can be attached to a window meaning there are no sleeps or 
polling to check for new messages. Basically, it means that a working thread 
can fire events in the thread controlling the window, resulting in a very 
efficient and simple event driven threading model.


Cheers,

jez.





RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

2006-02-06 Thread Emmanuel E

Resend of missed message.


Actually it was a mistake, thanks for sending it! I was starting to
wonder where the blazes it went!


Sorry Jason, I didnt send your message to the list. Doing it now. In case 
someone might want to take a look at re_threaded_exampl.pl


- Original Message - 
From: "Plum, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Emmanuel E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:48 AM
Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example


AH.. now then...

So.. the bug involving the object being in multiple threads does indeed
still exist! "Free to wrong Pool  not  in
%perl%/site/lib/win32/gui.pm"

The module itself is not thread safe in relation to objects!

BUT! BUT!

By using the *HANDLE* to the object, you can call the relative procedure
directly!

Search for [EMAIL PROTECTED] for alterations.

This leaves the obvious requirement that any code that is going to
directly alter the state of a control will need to know what type of
control that handle relates to.

Jason P.

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 1:49 PM
To: Plum, Jason; perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

Hi Jason,

Cool stuff!

But would there be a way to avoid those select calls to spend some time
sleeping? I mean if there were a way to do a select on a thread queue it

would be great.

On the other hand why not call Win32::GUI::Dialog() in the main thread
and
let the child threads update the screen?

I mean move this line to within the child threads:
$win->{pbT1}->SetPos($t1_in); and $win->{pbT2}->SetPos($t2_in); ?

If you move the create window code before you create any threads all
child
threads will inherit the window.

I've made a few modifications to your script -
1) Ive disabled the queue, implying shared globals as one way of passing

data to and fro from threads. With the queue gone theres nothing to do
in
the event loop but update the screen using Win32::GUI::Dialog();
2) Ive moved the thread join code into the Window_Terminate sub

However I get the following message when the script exits:
Scalars leaked: 1
Scalars leaked: 1
Wonder what thats related to?

Am attaching the code to avoid syntax errors because of word wraps.

Cheers,
Emmanuel



- Original Message - 
From: "Plum, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example


Hey All,

I was fiddling with some things yesterday and got around to wondering
how I might manage to take some of my more heavy duty linear processes
run in a thread outside of the thread containing the GUI (as we all know
this causes ugly interface lag).

Below is an example, and as with all things perl, this is not the only
way to do it, nor is it necessarily the best way to do it. Consider it a
proof of concept that functions.

This creates worker threads that put values 0-99 consecutively onto a
Queue whiles the function's 'run' semaphore is positive. It also
contains a run-away limiter to prevent the workers from getting too far
ahead of the main thread, containing the window.

Jason P.

__CODE__

use strict;
use warnings;

use threads;
use threads::shared;
use Thread::Queue;
## Create worker threads and associated variables.
## -- THIS MUST BE DONE, AND ALL THREADS STARTED
## -- BEFORE THE WINDOW IS CREATED.
my $TQ1 = new Thread::Queue;
my $TQ2 = new Thread::Queue;

my $ts1_run : shared = 0;
my $ts2_run : shared = 0;

my $thread1 = threads->new(\&Thread1);
my $thread2 = threads->new(\&Thread2);


use Win32::GUI;
## Hide Perl Window
my $perlW = Win32::GUI::GetPerlWindow();
Win32::GUI::Hide($perlW);

## Create Window
my $win = new Win32::GUI::Window(
   -name  => 'winMain',
   -size  => [200,100],
   -pos   => [200,200],
   -caption => 'MutliThread E.g.',
   -resizeable => 0,
);

$win->AddButton(
   -name   => 'btnRun1',
   -size   => [50,20],
   -pos=> [4,10],
   -text   => 'Run 1',
);

$win->AddProgressBar(
   -name   => 'pbT1',
   -size   => [120,20],
   -pos=> [58,10],
   -smooth => 1,
);
$win->{pbT1}->SetRange(0,99);

$win->AddButton(
   -name   => 'btnRun2',
   -size   => [50,20],
   -pos=> [4,32],
   -text   => 'Run 2',
);

$win->AddProgressBar(
   -name   => 'pbT2',
   -size   => [120,20],
   -pos=> [58,32],
   -smooth => 1,
);
$win->{pbT2}->SetRange(0,99);


$win->Show();
my $run = 1;
# Home rolled w/ DoEvents.
while($run){
   # get inputs.
   my $t1_in = $TQ1->dequeue_nb();
   if( defined $t1_in ){
   $win->{pbT1}->SetPos($t1_in);
   #print "Get T1 $t1_in\n";
   $ts1_run++;
   }
   my $t2_in = $TQ2->dequeue_nb();
   if( defined $t2_in ){
   $win->{pbT2}->SetPos($t2_in);
   #print "Get T2 $t2_in\n";
   $ts2_run++;
   }
   $win->DoEvents();
   select(undef, undef, undef, 0.01); # take a 1/100s break to no

RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

2006-02-06 Thread Plum, Jason

This is actually rather simple.

Simple create a shared variable containing the a scalar handle to the
window, and proceed to "Win32::GUI::SendMessage($ts_winHandle, WM_USER
+2)" etc., thus allowing for no need to actually poll the Queue for
status, as the message stack for the window will *tell* when there is an
item in the Queue...

Sorry I didn't include that in the example, as it was dated from before
the weekend and I haven't been to this email account since then even
though I have been working on the ideas in my spare time at home.

Jason P.


See Attached.
-Original Message-
From: Jeremy White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:04 PM
To: Plum, Jason; perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Multi-Threaded Example

>Actually it was a mistake, thanks for sending it! I was starting to
>wonder where the blazes it went!
>
>Yes that restriction might be a bit of an issue, however I *suppose*
>information on the control (not the control itself) could be serialized
>and sent over a Queue to the process altering the control. I have yet
to
>test this. Be Careful.

A few months back I hinted at some code that Rob had built that would
make 
threading coding much easier for Win32-GUI apps. In light of your recent

examples, I've dropped him an offlist mail suggesting that his code be 
available to more people. Although not complete, it is a great platform
to 
build from.

One of the problems that Rob's code solves is that one end of a thread 
message queue can be attached to a window meaning there are no sleeps or

polling to check for new messages. Basically, it means that a working
thread 
can fire events in the thread controlling the window, resulting in a
very 
efficient and simple event driven threading model.

Cheers,

jez.




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