RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Re: [Win32::GUI] List of missing desired widgets
The scrollbar, with another control(usually a textfield), is used as a
"Buddy" control.
Together, they make the "Stepper" control.
It's kind-of handy in the interface.
Regards,
-Stuart
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Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Re: [Win32::GUI] List of missing desired
widgets
At 18:10 2003-06-16 +0200, Aldo Calpini wrote:
> > TScrollBar: Scroll bar vertical or horizontal
>
>missing, but do we need one?
Could be useful, there have been a few posts regarding this. Not sure
how
to handle it though, if it should be connected to other controls or
standalone etc.
> > TRadioGroup:Panel Box container for radio buttons set
>
>missing, and we need one :-)
Doing groups of RadioButtons is doable today, just set the -groupstart
(?
or whatever it's called ?) on the first control in the group. A special
control for that would perhaps be useful but not essential.
> > TStringGrid:Excel like Grid widget for text only
> > TDrawGrid: Excel like Grid widget for text or image
>
>see Win32::GUI::Grid by Laurent Rocher
I played with it a little this weekend and it looks very useful.
> > Win32: {COMCTL32.DLL version 4.70 or later}
> > ==
> > TTabControl:Tab page
> > TPageControl: Tab page controller
>
>actually only Win32::GUI::Tabstrip
Or the Win32::GUI::TabStripGroup. And I think Laurent has one on his
page
as well.
> > TUpDown:Up/Down button
There is one in Win32::GUI, can't remember the exact name now. I use it
in
the Perl Oasis preferences dialog.
> > TCoolBar: MS Office Tool Bar with scroll container
>
>see Win32::GUI::Rebar
>
> > TPageScroller: MS Office Tool Bar with scroll and moveable
container
>
>Win32::GUI::Rebar
The Rebar sound very useful but I've never seen anyone do anything with
it.
It lacks documentation and sample programs. Anyone out there with
anything
runnable?
On the top of my wish list is:
- true modal dialogs
- working accelerators
- (more) complete event support
- drag-n-drop support (please apply my patch)
/J
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[perl-win32-gui-users] modal windows
to my absolute dismay, I've just discovered that "true" modal windows
are perfectly doable in Win32::GUI.
I banged my head for more than one week fighting with dialog templates
and crappy hacks... what a fool.
the following code implements a regular modal window, with all the
features. the trick is in the "-parent" option, and proper use of
Enable/Disable, Show/Hide and BringWindowToTop.
use Win32::GUI;
$MainWindow = Win32::GUI::Window->new(
-text => "Main",
-name => "MainWindow",
-pos => [ 200, 200 ],
-size => [ 150, 100 ],
);
$MainWindow->AddButton(
-name => "OpenModal",
-pos => [ 15, 20 ],
-text => "Open Modal Window",
);
$ModalWindow = Win32::GUI::Window->new(
-text => "Modal",
-name => "ModalWindow",
-pos => [ 220, 220 ],
-size => [ 150, 100 ],
-parent => $MainWindow, # this is the trick!
);
$ModalWindow->AddButton(
-name => "CloseModal",
-pos => [ 15, 20 ],
-text => "Close Modal Window",
);
$MainWindow->Show();
Win32::GUI::Dialog();
sub OpenModal_Click {
$MainWindow->Disable();
$ModalWindow->Show();
}
sub CloseModal_Click {
$ModalWindow->Hide();
$MainWindow->Enable();
$MainWindow->BringWindowToTop();
return 1;
}
sub MainWindow_Terminate {
-1;
}
sub ModalWindow_Terminate {
CloseModal_Click();
return 0; # so that $ModalWindow is not destroyed
}
maybe all this can be encapsulated in Perl functions, like this:
sub OpenModal_Click {
$MainWindow->DoModal($ModalWindow);
}
sub CloseModal_Click {
$ModalWindow->EndDialog();
}
would this fulfill all the needs for modal dialog boxes?
cheers,
Aldo
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Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] modal windows
At 13:24 2003-06-17 +0200, Aldo Calpini wrote: the following code implements a regular modal window, with all the features. the trick is in the "-parent" option, and proper use of Enable/Disable, Show/Hide and BringWindowToTop. If it works, absolutely wonderful! But see if it works with two opened windows. The modal window can only have one of them as -parent. IIRC, that was the problem with the Win32::GUI::Modalizer class. Is there any way of enumerating created windows? Or child windows of a window? Witht the ability to traverse a window hierarchy it should be trivial to write DoModal(), and EndModal() methods to call on a modal window. /J -- --- -- -- -- -- - - - Johan LindströmSourcerer @ Boss Casinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest bookmark: "Hacking and Refactoring" http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=5342 dmoz (1 of 23): /Computers/Hacking/Ethics/ 43
Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] modal windows
From: Johan Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If it works, absolutely wonderful! But see if it works with two opened windows. The modal window can only have one of them as -parent. IIRC, that was the problem with the Win32::GUI::Modalizer class. Yeah it does work. But it does become a mess when more than one window is open at anyone time. Especially when the "modal" window can be opened from different windows (parents). I had to set the parent to the mainwindow (even though it is not the actual "parent"), and do weird logic to handle when the user clicks on other windows - even then, its not perfect, and have various holes in the logic. Its fine for simple stuff, anything more than that Cheers, Jez. _ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Re: [Win32::GUI] List of missing desired widgets
> On the top of my wish list is: > - true modal dialogs > - working accelerators > - (more) complete event support > - drag-n-drop support (please apply my patch) > > > /J My wants: 1) see above 2) incoporate (with owners consent and proper, consistent documentation) subclasses from Laurent and Johan's work into the base 3) Updated documentation (ie.. instead of TBD, explain that the feature has not been implimented or that the implimentation lacks x,y, or z functionallity) 4) Scrollable windows. ie, if you put 20 text fields on a form(stacking vertically with a -top of say '3'), each with a -height of 20, but only make the form -height 100, there should be some ability to have the form scroll so that the fields are viewable. Of course, this capability should also be enabled on tabstrips and splitter controlled windows also. Not sure this is is something that can be done with the base Windows API though??? If I miss something that is already there , let me know. Joe
[perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
Joe wrote: 3) Updated documentation (ie.. instead of TBD, explain that the feature has not been implimented or that the implimentation lacks x,y, or z functionallity) How about a Wiki for this? That way we can keep all tips and tidbits of code mentioned on these lists in an organized fashion. Show of hands for the Wiki idea? Good? Bad? I may possibly already have created one, but I'm not sure it's the best platform. MoinMoin is my favourite Wiki right now. Would anyone with access to an Apache and Python-enabled web server be willing to host this? /J -- --- -- -- -- -- - - - Johan LindströmSourcerer @ Boss Casinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest bookmark: "Hacking and Refactoring" http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=5342 dmoz (1 of 23): /Computers/Hacking/Ethics/ 43
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
I personally would prefer an online version in addition to the computer installed docs. Especially if there were a way to download the entire doc in addition to reading online. This would facilitate rapid updates of "example code" in case an example is proven to be faulty or as new ways to use obscure funtionallity were found (example is the modal thing Aldo "just" showed in a previous email yesterday). I personally do not mind what method is used to server the content as long as it is searchable, easy to navigate, and easy to extend/add content(so that the admins cand updated quickly). Joe Frazier, Jr. Technical Support Engineer Peopleclick Service Support Tel: +1-800-841-2365 E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Johan Lindstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:16 AM > To: perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets) > > > Joe wrote: > >3) Updated documentation (ie.. instead of TBD, explain that > the feature > >has not been implimented or that the implimentation lacks x,y, or z > >functionallity) > > How about a Wiki for this? That way we can keep all tips and > tidbits of > code mentioned on these lists in an organized fashion. > > Show of hands for the Wiki idea? Good? Bad? > > > I may possibly already have created one, but I'm not sure > it's the best > platform. > > MoinMoin is my favourite Wiki right now. Would anyone with > access to an > Apache and Python-enabled web server be willing to host this? > > > /J > > -- --- -- -- -- -- - - - > Johan LindströmSourcerer @ Boss Casinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Latest bookmark: "Hacking and Refactoring" > http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=5342 > dmoz (1 of 23): /Computers/Hacking/Ethics/ 43 > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU > Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU > Hosting Partner. > Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly > Commission! > INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php > ___ > Perl-Win32-GUI-Users mailing list > Perl-Win32-GUI-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/perl-win32-gui-users > >
Re: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
From: Johan Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How about a Wiki for this? That way we can keep all tips and tidbits of code mentioned on these lists in an organized fashion. Show of hands for the Wiki idea? Good? Bad? I may possibly already have created one, but I'm not sure it's the best platform. MoinMoin is my favourite Wiki right now. Would anyone with access to an Apache and Python-enabled web server be willing to host this? Excellent idea. Sourceforge supports Python. Perhaps Aldo could give you access? In my view, the whole project needs a bit of promotion, it would be great if there was one focal point where all code, examples, docs and 3rd party links where available from one page. I also like the idea of having a build with all Laurents controls included - heck, why not include Loft as well? Cheers, Jez. _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
maybe a silly question, but... what is a "wiki"? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johan Lindstrom Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:16 PM To: perl-win32-gui-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets) Joe wrote: >3) Updated documentation (ie.. instead of TBD, explain that the feature >has not been implimented or that the implimentation lacks x,y, or z >functionallity) How about a Wiki for this? That way we can keep all tips and tidbits of code mentioned on these lists in an organized fashion. Show of hands for the Wiki idea? Good? Bad? I may possibly already have created one, but I'm not sure it's the best platform. MoinMoin is my favourite Wiki right now. Would anyone with access to an Apache and Python-enabled web server be willing to host this?
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
It's what they say in the intro for the song "Jam on it" from Newcleus. =D >> maybe a silly question, but... what is a "wiki"?
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
i think a wiki would be great. there seems to be a fountain of useful information flowing constantly on this list. i know it has helped me immensely since i've been using win32::gui. however, there's something decidedly awkward about searching the users list archives on sourceforge. it would be nice to have people provide working examples of elements in the docs that can be easily updated and found. darrik
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] modal windows
i did some playing with modal windows with more than one window open prior to the modal. it seems you can pretty easily implement this (sans weirdness) just by keeping track of open windows and looping through them all to disable them during the OpenModal call. the only other issue seems to be keeping windows in the foreground when they're re-enabled, but that can simply be solved by again looping through (in reverse order, ending, perhaps, with the last active window) and bringing them "to top." just a thought. darrik
RE: [perl-win32-gui-users] Docs (List of missing desired widgets)
At 22:33 2003-06-17 +0300, Burak Gürsoy wrote: maybe a silly question, but... what is a "wiki"? Basically a web site that anyone (yes anyone) can edit and contribute to. It usually has a very simple markup language. These two things together makes it something very special. The original: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki /J -- --- -- -- -- -- - - - Johan LindströmSourcerer @ Boss Casinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest bookmark: "Hacking and Refactoring" http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=5342 dmoz (1 of 23): /Computers/Hacking/Ethics/ 43
