High Quality Music Streams

[Steve Jacobson]

Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It appears
to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as I understand
it.  Do those here have experience with other high quality download or
streaming music sites that are not particular about the hardware used?
Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to take full
advantage of such sources.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve Jacobson

 

Re: High Quality Music Streams

[hamitcampos]

There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new players 
that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It appears
> to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as I understand
> it.  Do those here have experience with other high quality download or
> streaming music sites that are not particular about the hardware used?
> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to take full
> advantage of such sources.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> 

Re: Now I know why music on the Apple TV 3rd Gen doesn't sound sogood...

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I wrote to an audio engineer friend of mine forwarding him the original email 
from this list written by john and his explanation is an interesting one, 
certainly the practise is more common it seems than I thought:

> Unfortunately, this is *very* common practice.  Horrible as it is for decent 
> audio, forcing everything to one output sampling rate and bit-depth is 
> unavoidable for the vast majority of consumer hardware, otherwise which 
> wouldn't be able to support playing multiple simultaneous output streams of 
> differing formats.  The SoundBlaster Live and above do exactly this in 
> hardware, which is why SB cards always sounded bloody horrible at anything 
> other than 48KHz.  XP and above do it in software; OSX and IOS do the same, 
> as (I imagine) does Android; Linux and BSD do it if you use a Sound Server. 
> It's an absolutely attrocious way to handle audio, but necessary if you want 
> the sound device to be able to do more than one thing at a time. Fortunately, 
> Linux at least can be made to pass the stream directly to the hardware, but 
> of course the device loses the ability then for multiple streams for that 
> particular sound device. So, e.g., no speech output wilst playing music.  If 
> you want the best possible precision and still want multiple streams, the 
> simplest solution is to install a professional Sound Server such as Jack 
> Audio Connection Kit (Linux, Win, and (I believe) OSX), which, although it 
> has to resample, has very high-precision resampling algorithms, and does a 
> very good job.  Of course, it's more CPU-intensive.

> On 5 Feb 2016, at 8:36 AM, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 


So there we are, take it or leave it 


> I heard the 48k sampling rate is more common in video than it is for music or 
> anything else. Maybe it's what a TV would expect to see if HDMI is used.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Now I know why music on the Apple TV 3rd Gen doesn't sound 
> sogood...
> 
> 
> Well to be perfectly honest that’s Apple for you and where would you find any 
> serious audio reviews about anything Apple?
> 
> Okay, I did find plenty of reviews and information regarding the audio for my 
> 2012 Mac Mini machine but Apple just won’t release too much information about 
> anything else it seems when it comes to audio.
> 
> I’m glad you mentioned that about the Apple TV and now I’m having second 
> thoughts about that purchase for myself too.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 5:38 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an Apple TV 3rd Gen a year or so ago to use with MusicMatch and my
>> HiFi. I was really disappointed to discover that it really didn't sound that
>> great even with a HDMI connection. I recently read that for some reason it
>> resamples music from 44.1KHZ to 48KHZ. This is the equivalent to transcoding
>> on the fly which is inevitably going to sound terrible.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The thing is, I really love the new Apple music service and I am tempted to
>> buy the Apple TV 4th Gen in order to use the service with my living room
>> system. But once bitten, twice shy. I haven't been able to find out if it
>> handles music in the same way. I haven't even been able to find any serious
>> reviews of its audio quality.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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SV: High Quality Music Streams

[Brian Olesen]

Hi,
Do you think that VLC can do so?

Brian

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Emne: Re: High Quality Music Streams

There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new players
that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 
wrote:
> 
> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It 
> appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as 
> I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high 
> quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular about
the hardware used?
> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to 
> take full advantage of such sources.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> 

Re: High Quality Music Streams

[Dane Trethowan]

VLC will do it yep but you’ll need drives to handle the files, in my case they 
came with my Rotel DAC.


> On 7 Feb 2016, at 5:04 AM, Brian Olesen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you think that VLC can do so?
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
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> Sendt: 6. februar 2016 18:01
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: High Quality Music Streams
> 
> There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new players
> that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It 
>> appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as 
>> I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high 
>> quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular about
> the hardware used?
>> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to 
>> take full advantage of such sources.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: High Quality Music Streams

[Hamit Campos]

Maybe, I haven't ttryed it.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:05 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: High Quality Music Streams

Hi,
Do you think that VLC can do so?

Brian

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Emne: Re: High Quality Music Streams

There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new players
that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 
wrote:
> 
> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It 
> appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as 
> I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high 
> quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular 
> about
the hardware used?
> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to 
> take full advantage of such sources.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> 
> 

RE: High Quality Music Streams

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay, so it can. Yeah I never did try this with it.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: High Quality Music Streams

VLC will do it yep but you’ll need drives to handle the files, in my case they 
came with my Rotel DAC.


> On 7 Feb 2016, at 5:04 AM, Brian Olesen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Do you think that VLC can do so?
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
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> hamitcampos
> Sendt: 6. februar 2016 18:01
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
> Emne: Re: High Quality Music Streams
> 
> There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new 
> players that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It 
>> appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as 
>> I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high 
>> quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular 
>> about
> the hardware used?
>> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to 
>> take full advantage of such sources.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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High-resolution audio: everything you need to know | What Hi-Fi?

[Dane Trethowan]

Since we’re talking Lossless Streaming and HD Audio playback I thought the 
following page would be of interest to others, a good reference to bookmark.


> http://www.whathifi.com/news/high-resolution-audio-everything-you-need-to-know
>  
> 


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Re: High Quality Music Streams

[Dane Trethowan]

It certainly does HD FLAC, I’ve not tried it with ALAC, don’t have any of those 
types of files.

Course if you’re wanting to go the “Stand-Alone” way - playing files without 
your computer - then there are plenty of devices out there that will support HD 
audio, the newer Receivers such as the Denon AVRX3100W or the Yamaha CDN-500 
CD/Network/Media Player, the former being an excellent choice if you have an 
existing system and the CD player is getting rather old and its time to get a 
new one.


> On 7 Feb 2016, at 5:51 AM, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Ah okay, so it can. Yeah I never did try this with it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 1:08 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: High Quality Music Streams
> 
> VLC will do it yep but you’ll need drives to handle the files, in my case 
> they came with my Rotel DAC.
> 
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2016, at 5:04 AM, Brian Olesen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Do you think that VLC can do so?
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af 
>> hamitcampos
>> Sendt: 6. februar 2016 18:01
>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Emne: Re: High Quality Music Streams
>> 
>> There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new 
>> players that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It 
>>> appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as 
>>> I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high 
>>> quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular 
>>> about
>> the hardware used?
>>> Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to 
>>> take full advantage of such sources.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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good guide for using Media Player Classic

[Peter Russillo]

Hello, does anyone know of a good guide article about using Media Player 
Classic Home Cinema as it's called now?  I'd like to know how to make 
playlists in this program and to play any DVD using this program.  Thanks.


Peter Russillo 

HD Audio Sites

[Dane Trethowan]

Another site you can go do for HD audio is Melba Recordings in Australia.

Melba Recordings is an independent record label specialising in classical 
material.


> http://www.melbarecordings.com.au/help/formats 
> 


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High Quality HD Audio, High Quality Radio, That Sort Of thing

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I think I may have mentioned this in passing some time ago but thought I’d 
mention it again along with a few extra details.

The BBC have 320K streams available for those in the U.K. - you’ll need a VPN 
to access them anywhere else - and they audio from those is superb to say the 
least.

Now this audio of course is not HD Audio but its damn good MP3.

I’m not sure whether the BBC Web Player on their web site supports these 
streams so I use something called Jamcast which can be installed on a Windows 
machine.

Jam cast comes with various channels and allows others to be installed from the 
Jamcast site, you might install the BBC Radio Channel for example and that’s 
exactly where you’ll find the 320K Audio streams of their most popular stations 
including Radio 1 through 6 - both Radio 4 LW and FM services are there along 
with the 5 Live Extra and $ extra streams -.

Added to this is Jamcasts ability to stream the audio using DLAN so the system 
ins very configurable and customisable.

You could for example set your Smartphone as a remote controller for the system 
and send the audio to your Hi-Fi system or just play it on your Smartphone or 
just use your computer, the choice is yours.

I’ve only scratched the surface when it comes to Jamcast, if you want to find 
out more find Jamcast on Google and perhaps follow Jamcast on Twitter.


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Re: SV: High Quality Music Streams

[Milton Ota]

Original message:

Hi,
Do you think that VLC can do so?



Brian



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There's HD tracks and I tracks. Just remember you need 1 of the new players
that will play 96 KHZ 24 bit files.



Sent from my iPhone



On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:01 AM, Steve Jacobson 

wrote:



Recently, I heard of a high quality music source called Deezer.  It
appears to have quite a few tracks, but it requires Sonus hardware as
I understand it.  Do those here have experience with other high
quality download or streaming music sites that are not particular about

the hardware used?

Certainly I am aware that it is necessary to have good hardware to
take full advantage of such sources.





Best regards,





Steve Jacobson




I saw on the Deezer website that there is an app for the iPhone. Does 
anyone know if the app is accessible? Is there a charge for the app and 
how much?


Its something worth looking into if it is accessible.

Hardware recording...

[John Chilelli]

Hi all,

 

Does anyone know of an accessible, or at least a somewhat accessible
solution for us to be able to do some decent music / studio recordings via a
hardware device?

 

Thanks much,

 

John >