Re: Sound quality on PC

[Andy Logue]

Hi Hamit.

I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells me, 
so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when 
done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process 
successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked 
good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all.  That's 
why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file, 
unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and 
recording?



Andy.

- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD is
too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk 
quality

sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Sound quality on PC

Hi all.

I've recently purchased the fairly new Zoom, 6 channel portable digital
recorder and indeed, I did my first recording session on Wednesday night, 
at

my local bar.

I wanted really high quality sound so got assistance to set the device to 
24

bit 96 KHz.

The session went very well and the quality is extremely good.

I've spent the last 2 days editing the files using Goldwave, on my Win 7
computer running JAWS.

For some reason, I am unable to burn the files using Nero.

I believe that Nero is not able to make a cd of a 24 bit recording.


Does anyone know if this indeed the case or can I perhaps change a setting
in Nero to bring it up from 16 to 24 bit.

Sorry for the lengthy message but any assistance or advice would be very
welcomed.

Very best wishes.
Andy.

RE: Review: Sublime sound compensates for annoying shortcomings

[Hamit Campos]

Wow dude that's soo super epic! The other thing is that none of these
talk. I for 1 get lost without speech. Yes I can remember your okasional
menu and choices here and there. But other than that, I'm completely lost.
Lol.
 Remember my little experiment with my IPodnanno?
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Review: Sublime sound compensates for annoying shortcomings

Headline, Sublime sound compensates for annoying shortcomings, by Rod
Easdown.

The migration to quality audio after years of compressed MP3 music is
becoming a stampede - just look at the market. Start with all the serious
brands now making earbuds. Focal has newies for $220, or about $200 more
than MP3 music could justify, or pay $300 to $400 for Bang and Olufsen or
Bose offerings, or get right up there with Westone's W60s at $1449. If you
go for proper headphones, and plenty of commuters are happy to wear these on
public transport, the pickings have never been richer. Even the big discount
stores now deal in premium models from Bose, Beats, B and O, Bowers and
Wilkins, Sennheiser, Monster, Philips and Sony.

It's happening because portable music sources can now store lots of music at
full CD quality and better and, even for non-audiophiles, the improvement in
sound is extraordinary. Sony now has four high-resolution Walkmans on offer,
Astell and Kern have five. You can pay $279 for a nipper with 16 gigabytes
of memory or go comfortably into four figures for something with thumping
internal amplification and endless memory on SD cards.

Now, one of the venerable names in hi-fi, Acoustic Research, has entered the
portable market. AR is best known for its speakers and headphones, and it's
big with professional installers for interconnects and cables.

One of its founders, Edgar Villchur, invented the acoustic suspension
loudspeaker that produced more bass from smaller cabinets and made AR
famous. His co-founder, Henry Kloss, was the man behind the tuners for
Tivoli radios.

So when AR announces a portable music player, one has high expectations,
especially when it's $1 less than $2000. Well there's good news and bad
news.

First impressions of the ARM2 aren't encouraging. Fifteen years ago, iPods
set the standard for controls that were simple and intuitive, and we're now
used to devices we can operate straight out of the box, no directions
needed, but you'll need the owner's manual with this one. Even turning it on
is something of an art, and all you get in the box is a quick start guide.
Download the manual, and read it.

There are other frustrations. There's no hold switch, so you can trip
buttons without intending to when the player is in your pocket or bag. Want
to see what track you're listening to? With a Sony, you tap the play button,
even when the hold switch is activated, but here you must tap the power
switch and then unlock, and it took me ages to discover how to get to the
full settings menu without interrupting the music.

It's also heavy. Although it's a bit smaller than an iPhone 6+, it's 40 per
cent heavier at 245 grams, and there are sharp corners that can make it
uncomfortable in a top pocket.

Ah, but the good news is very good. This is the best sounding portable I've
ever listened to. The sound quality isn't excellent, great or wonderful -
it's sublime. The definition is razor sharp, the balance between highs and
lows is brilliant. It has lightning-fast attack and strolls through big
musical transients.

This is not just down to state-of-the-art electronics and an ability to
handle the full range of high-resolution formats, including WAV, AIFF, FLAC,
ALAC, and DSD up to 24 bit/192 kHz. The ARM2 has genuine grunt. It has
enough power to drive even the most demanding headphones to the limit of
their abilities. You won't need a separate headphone amplifier, because
there's one built in, which I guess explains the weight. It has 64 gigabytes
of internal memory and accepts micro SDXCs.

The amplification is probably why it lasts only nine hours between charges,
so you'll likely need back-up power for a long flight. Sony's NWZX2 (22
hours at its highest resolution) is a better deal: it's $500 cheaper and 99
people in 100 will struggle to notice the slight drop in sound quality. The
Sony has much better software too. Purists, however, will suffer the ARM's
shortcomings for the pure bliss of the music.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: Sound quality on PC

[Hamit Campos]

Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a regular
stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I may
have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on? If
on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If it
chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I can
say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
resolution in his nero podcasts.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells me,
so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all.  That's
why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file,
unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and
recording?


Andy.

- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


> Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD is
> too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk 
> quality
> sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Logue
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:27 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Sound quality on PC
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've recently purchased the fairly new Zoom, 6 channel portable digital
> recorder and indeed, I did my first recording session on Wednesday night, 
> at
> my local bar.
>
> I wanted really high quality sound so got assistance to set the device to 
> 24
> bit 96 KHz.
>
> The session went very well and the quality is extremely good.
>
> I've spent the last 2 days editing the files using Goldwave, on my Win 7
> computer running JAWS.
>
> For some reason, I am unable to burn the files using Nero.
>
> I believe that Nero is not able to make a cd of a 24 bit recording.
>
>
> Does anyone know if this indeed the case or can I perhaps change a setting
> in Nero to bring it up from 16 to 24 bit.
>
> Sorry for the lengthy message but any assistance or advice would be very
> welcomed.
>
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
>
>
> 

Denon DTR-2000 DAT Recorder

[Dane Trethowan]

A blast from the past for you all.

I was lucky enough to have one of these machines and the transport was superb, 
got from one end of a 120 minute DAT tape to the other in around 20 seconds.

Of course the sound quality - whilst very good - is beat by many pieces of 
equipment available today.



> http://www.datrecorders.co.uk/dtr2000.php 
> 


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Sound quality on PC

[Andy Logue]

Hi again Hamit.

I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV format, 
24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it into 
tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit, but 
can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?


I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I converted 
each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the 
quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these 
huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards.  Incidentally, 
Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!


The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the 
four singers a cd of there work.


Does any of this make sence to you?

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a 
regular
stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I 
may
have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on? 
If

on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If 
it

chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I can
say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
resolution in his nero podcasts.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells 
me,

so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all. 
That's

why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file,
unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and
recording?


Andy.

- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD is
too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk
quality
sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Sound quality on PC

Hi all.

I've recently purchased the fairly new Zoom, 6 channel portable digital
recorder and indeed, I did my first recording session on Wednesday night,
at
my local bar.

I wanted really high quality sound so got assistance to set the device to
24
bit 96 KHz.

The session went very well and the quality is extremely good.

I've spent the last 2 days editing the files using Goldwave, on my Win 7
computer running JAWS.

For some reason, I am unable to burn the files using Nero.

I believe that Nero is not able to make a cd of a 24 bit recording.


Does anyone know if this indeed the case or can I perhaps change a 
setting

in Nero to bring it up from 16 to 24 bit.

Sorry for the lengthy message but any assistance or advice would be very
welcomed.

Very best wishes.
Andy.

RE: Sound quality on PC

[Hamit Campos]

Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, I
did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a newer
version 
Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll know
more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very
strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you do
compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better
quality.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi again Hamit.

I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV format,
24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it into
tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit, but
can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?

I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I converted
each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the
quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these
huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards.  Incidentally,
Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!

The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the
four singers a cd of there work.

Does any of this make sence to you?

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


> Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a 
> regular
> stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I 
> may
> have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on? 
> If
> on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
> bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
> giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If 
> it
> chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
> Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I can
> say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
> resolution in his nero podcasts.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Logue
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC
>
> Hi Hamit.
>
> I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells 
> me,
> so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
> done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
> successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
> good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all. 
> That's
> why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file,
> unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and
> recording?
>
>
> Andy.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hamit Campos" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC
>
>
>> Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD is
>> too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk
>> quality
>> sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
>> Logue
>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:27 PM
>> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> Subject: Sound quality on PC
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I've recently purchased the fairly new Zoom, 6 channel portable digital
>> recorder and indeed, I did my first recording session on Wednesday night,
>> at
>> my local bar.
>>
>> I wanted really high quality sound so got assistance to set the device to
>> 24
>> bit 96 KHz.
>>
>> The session went very well and the quality is extremely good.
>>
>> I've spent the last 2 days editing the files using Goldwave, on my Win 7
>> computer running JAWS.
>>
>> For some reason, I am unable to burn the files using Nero.
>>
>> I believe that Nero is not able to make a cd of a 24 bit recording.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know if this indeed the case or can I perhaps change a 
>> setting
>> in Nero to bring it up from 16 to 24 bit.
>>
>> Sorry for the lengthy message but any assistance or advice would be very
>> welcomed.
>>
>> Very best wishes.
>> Andy.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> 

Re: Sound quality on PC

[Andy Logue]

Hi Hamit.

What you say cheers me up a great deal.  I was beginning to regret paying 
out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs.  Perhaps a newer 
version of Nero?  I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line.  I like 
Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything.


Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, 
I
did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a 
newer

version
Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll 
know

more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very
strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you 
do

compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better
quality.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi again Hamit.

I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV format,
24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it 
into
tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit, 
but

can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?

I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I 
converted

each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the
quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these
huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. 
Incidentally,

Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!

The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the
four singers a cd of there work.

Does any of this make sence to you?

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a
regular
stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I
may
have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on?
If
on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If
it
chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I 
can

say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
resolution in his nero podcasts.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells
me,
so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all.
That's
why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file,
unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and
recording?


Andy.

- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD 
is

too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk
quality
sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Sound quality on PC

Hi all.

I've recently purchased the fairly new Zoom, 6 channel portable digital
recorder and indeed, I did my first recording session on Wednesday 
night,

at
my local bar.

I wanted really high quality sound so got assistance to set the device 
to

24
bit 96 KHz.

The session went very well and the quality is extremely good.

I've spent the last 2 days editing the files using Goldwave, on my Win 7
computer running JAWS.

For some reason, I am unable to burn the files using Nero.

I believe that Nero is not able to make a cd of a 24 bit recording.


Does anyone know if this indeed the case or can I perhaps change a
setting
in Nero to bring it up from 16 to 24 bit.

Sorry for the lengthy message but any assistance or advice would be very
welcomed.

Very best wishes.
Andy.

RE: Sound quality on PC

[Hamit Campos]

Well, you're welcome. You could also talk to Neal Ewers I seem to remember
his email being neal.ew...@ravenswood.org when I last emailed him. He'll be
a good source for WAV file questions. I just meantion Rick because of your
question mainly dealing with Nero. OH how did I record the 24 bit files I
burned to CD you ask? Well fun fact for anyone with an Olympus recorder,
even the DM 420 which only did MP3 and WMA had a dirty little secrit. That
was that it's a 24 bit sound card. So if in the USB type menue you set it to
compisit and set it as your defalt recording device, now you can record in
96 KHZ 24 bit PCM WAV in stereo. What I'd love to try with a Zoom H6 like
you now have and Neal Ewers has, is set it as the defalt recording device,
hook 4 mikes to the back, get the front part with 2 XLRs and hook 2 more
mikes then in SF Pro or I guess apparently now Gold wive will do this set it
2 5.1 channal surround and wala a surround sound recording. This is why the
sadly way expensive Zoom F8 kind of interests me. With that if this idea
worked you could even do 7.1 surround sound. So super epic!!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

What you say cheers me up a great deal.  I was beginning to regret paying
out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs.  Perhaps a newer
version of Nero?  I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line.  I like
Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything.

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, 
> I
> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a 
> newer
> version
> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll 
> know
> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very
> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you 
> do
> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better
> quality.
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Logue
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC
>
> Hi again Hamit.
>
> I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV format,
> 24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it 
> into
> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit, 
> but
> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?
>
> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I 
> converted
> each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the
> quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these
> huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. 
> Incidentally,
> Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!
>
> The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the
> four singers a cd of there work.
>
> Does any of this make sence to you?
>
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hamit Campos" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC
>
>
>> Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a
>> regular
>> stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I
>> may
>> have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on?
>> If
>> on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
>> bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
>> giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If
>> it
>> chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
>> Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I 
>> can
>> say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
>> resolution in his nero podcasts.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
>> Logue
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC
>>
>> Hi Hamit.
>>
>> I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells
>> me,
>> so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
>> done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
>> successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
>> good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all.
>> That's
>> why I think that either my computer or Nero canno

RE: Sound quality on PC

[Hamit Campos]

If it's not to much of a bother, and if you know how to use sendspeace or
have a dropbox, would you be so kind as to record a little something
something and sendspace or dropbox me it please? I've not heard true pro 96
KHZ 24 bit audio. I've basically gotten away with making 24 bit fies on
stuff, and my Enspireon laptop does 24 bit but it's not exactly pro. I
shouldn't think so anyways. But maybe I'm wrong. Thanks. Also I could then
have a try at this CD thing my self too just to see.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

What you say cheers me up a great deal.  I was beginning to regret paying
out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs.  Perhaps a newer
version of Nero?  I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line.  I like
Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything.

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC


> Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said, 
> I
> did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a 
> newer
> version
> Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll 
> know
> more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very
> strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you 
> do
> compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better
> quality.
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
> Logue
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC
>
> Hi again Hamit.
>
> I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV format,
> 24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it 
> into
> tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit, 
> but
> can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?
>
> I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I 
> converted
> each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the
> quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these
> huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards. 
> Incidentally,
> Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!
>
> The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the
> four singers a cd of there work.
>
> Does any of this make sence to you?
>
> Very best wishes.
> Andy.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hamit Campos" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC
>
>
>> Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a
>> regular
>> stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I
>> may
>> have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on?
>> If
>> on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 24
>> bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
>> giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If
>> it
>> chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for Rick
>> Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I 
>> can
>> say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with audio
>> resolution in his nero podcasts.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
>> Logue
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC
>>
>> Hi Hamit.
>>
>> I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells
>> me,
>> so I need to take some out.  I burned the CD's in the usual way and when
>> done, my CD drawer popped out and Nero said something like burn process
>> successfully done, do you wish to save the project.  So everything looked
>> good until I try to play the cd and there is no files on it at all.
>> That's
>> why I think that either my computer or Nero cannot burn a 24 bit file,
>> unless there is an adjustment within settings to allow 24 bit playing and
>> recording?
>>
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Hamit Campos" 
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:37 PM
>> Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC
>>
>>
>>> Hm how long is the file in question? It maybe a thing about the CD 
>>> is
>>> too small. 96 KHZ 24 bit is so super epic because it's Blu-ray disk
>>> quality
>>> sound. I've done it though. So I don't know y it's not letting you.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio

Re: Sound quality on PC

[Andy Logue]

Hi again Hamit.

That's a good idea.  Below is a single track, which was part of my recording 
session last Wednesday.  It's a local band practice.  During recording they 
monitored through headphones and were astonished with the quality of what 
they were hearing.


I used the stereo X Y capsule with  the wooly mic screan.

A sighted friend kindly set up the recording volume to just below 12 db.

In all the session lasted 3 hours and either because one of them stopped the 
recording to listen, or the device starts a new file after an hour, I ended 
up with 4 files.


I copied them from the device via the usb and listened to them on Winamp. 
Although they were clear, the volume was very low.  So I edited each in 
Goldwave Doubling the volume twice for each file.  There was no compression 
or limiter on.


So here is the file for you to have some fun with.

Sendspace link:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/0ovgbz

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:55 AM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



If it's not to much of a bother, and if you know how to use sendspeace or
have a dropbox, would you be so kind as to record a little something
something and sendspace or dropbox me it please? I've not heard true pro 
96

KHZ 24 bit audio. I've basically gotten away with making 24 bit fies on
stuff, and my Enspireon laptop does 24 bit but it's not exactly pro. I
shouldn't think so anyways. But maybe I'm wrong. Thanks. Also I could then
have a try at this CD thing my self too just to see.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:58 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

What you say cheers me up a great deal.  I was beginning to regret paying
out all that cash and it not being able to meet my needs.  Perhaps a newer
version of Nero?  I'll visit Rick's page and drop him a wee line.  I like
Rick a lot and you are right, he knows loads about almost everything.

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



Yes most of it does. The thing confusing me is the Nero thing. As I said,
I
did burn WAV files at 96 24 bit on to CD. Now it was with a trial of a
newer
version
Of it. Hm like I said you might want to talk to Rick Harmon. He'll
know
more about Golde Wave and Nero then I do. I use Sound Forge. This is very
strange. Now to your point of this being worth it, yes it is. Even if you
do
compress it, it'll be a better cd because it's been recorded at a better
quality.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:22 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi again Hamit.

I think that I may have seen the light!  My Zoom H6 records in WAV 
format,

24 bit at 96Khz.  So I ended up with a lengthy WAV file.  I chopped it
into
tracks using Goldwave and ended up with 24 WAV files.  Am I wrong Hamit,
but
can you burn a WAV file onto a CD?

I re-edited my master recording but after chopping the file up, I
converted
each file to MP3, to see if that worked.  Unfortunately,it didn't and the
quality was  not as good.  I'm not sure if it's worth recording at these
huge levels if you need to compress it down again afterwards.
Incidentally,
Nero tells me that my WAV files are 63000 KBPS!

The recordings play wonderful on my computer, but I had hoped to give the
four singers a cd of there work.

Does any of this make sence to you?

Very best wishes.
Andy.
- Original Message -
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Sound quality on PC



Ah Did you tell it to do a data CD or a regular old CD you play in a
regular
stereo? AKA a CDDA CD. Because when I did it I did it as a CDDA CD. So I
may
have had a different experience. Now, what are you trying to play it on?
If
on the PC than that's odd because apparently your pc can indeed handle 
24

bit if you could edit the file. Here's another idea just for grins and
giggles. Find the file. Then, just play it with Windows Media Player. If
it
chipmunks or doesn't work then it's the PC this maybe a question for 
Rick

Harmon of the blind-geek-zone. He would know more. I'm not sure. But I
can
say that I don't recall him meantioning anything about dealing with 
audio

resolution in his nero podcasts.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy
Logue
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 4:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Sound quality on PC

Hi Hamit.

I am using Nero 8 and usually when I drop in too many files, Nero tells
me,
so I need to take some out.  I bur