RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and it works very well. On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision, there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and above have serious accessibility issues in my view and, despite me reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed. On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with my editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot. Brian Hartgen Hartgen Consultancy www.hartgen.org Phone UK: 02920-850298. Phone US: 415-871-0626 JAWS Certified, 2015. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. > On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're > capturing. > I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily > > http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ > > -- > > ** > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Do you like it better than goldwave? Dane Trethowan wrote: > If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then > you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example > records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the > Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. > > I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does > me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro > 11 a person without sight can make use of? > > If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, > editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with > audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. > > > > On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: > > > > Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're > > capturing. > > I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. > > -Original Message- > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > > Trethowan > > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily > > > > http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ > > > > -- > > > > ** > > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > > > > > > > > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Do I like what better, are you referring to Total Recorder? If so I like both Total Recorder and Goldwave, both have excellent sound editors. I’m on the record as having said that if a person bought both Total Recorder and Goldwave then they would have pretty much all the audio production and editing tools required in their basket. I’m not denying there’s a place for Sound Forge 11 Pro but not for the typical user of audio, that’s just overkill and even worse, - it seems still - a lot of Sound Forge isn’t accessible and probably will never be. Another audio tool that is often overlooked though well respected by list members - including yours truly - is Sound Recording Studio, I think I got the name right, the one marketed by American Printing House For The Blind. > On 29 Jun 2015, at 5:35 pm, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Do you like it better than goldwave? > > Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then >> you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example >> records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the >> Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. >> >> I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does >> me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge >> Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? >> >> If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, >> editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with >> audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. >> >> >>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're >>> capturing. >>> I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily >>> >>> http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > cov...@ccs.covici.com > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Hi, No, it's Studio Recorder. And yes, i agree it has some pretty neat features for editing. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 29 June 2015 08:51 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily Do I like what better, are you referring to Total Recorder? If so I like both Total Recorder and Goldwave, both have excellent sound editors. I’m on the record as having said that if a person bought both Total Recorder and Goldwave then they would have pretty much all the audio production and editing tools required in their basket. I’m not denying there’s a place for Sound Forge 11 Pro but not for the typical user of audio, that’s just overkill and even worse, - it seems still - a lot of Sound Forge isn’t accessible and probably will never be. Another audio tool that is often overlooked though well respected by list members - including yours truly - is Sound Recording Studio, I think I got the name right, the one marketed by American Printing House For The Blind. > On 29 Jun 2015, at 5:35 pm, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Do you like it better than goldwave? > > Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then >> you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example >> records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the >> Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. >> >> I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does >> me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge >> Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? >> >> If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, >> editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with >> audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. >> >> >>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're >>> capturing. >>> I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily >>> >>> http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > cov...@ccs.covici.com > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Thanks a bundle . > On 29 Jun 2015, at 5:55 pm, Steve Nutt wrote: > > Hi, > > No, it's Studio Recorder. And yes, i agree it has some pretty neat features > for editing. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 > Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 > Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 > Email: st...@comproom.co.uk > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 29 June 2015 08:51 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily > > Do I like what better, are you referring to Total Recorder? > > If so I like both Total Recorder and Goldwave, both have excellent sound > editors. > > I’m on the record as having said that if a person bought both Total Recorder > and Goldwave then they would have pretty much all the audio production and > editing tools required in their basket. > > I’m not denying there’s a place for Sound Forge 11 Pro but not for the > typical user of audio, that’s just overkill and even worse, - it seems still > - a lot of Sound Forge isn’t accessible and probably will never be. > > Another audio tool that is often overlooked though well respected by list > members - including yours truly - is Sound Recording Studio, I think I got > the name right, the one marketed by American Printing House For The Blind. > > >> On 29 Jun 2015, at 5:35 pm, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: >> >> Do you like it better than goldwave? >> >> Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >>> If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke >>> then you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for >>> example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within >>> the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. >>> >>> I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio >>> does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound >>> Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? >>> >>> If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, >>> editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with >>> audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. >>> >>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're capturing. I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves >>> >>> ** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >>> halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: >> How do >> you spend it? >> >>John Covici >>cov...@ccs.covici.com >> > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
VLC Media Player
Gary Ray here. I seem to remember there being some VLC instructions or tutorials mentioned on this list, but I cannot seem to find those messages. Are there such animals? Thanx!
RE: VLC Media Player
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Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Yep, Studio recorder is another one. I think it worked a lot like the older versions of Sound Forge did where you use the brackets to mark your selections. I think it is the only one that does automatic pause reduction, but I hope I'm wrong on that by now. - Original Message - From: "Steve Nutt" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:55 AM Subject: RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily Hi, No, it's Studio Recorder. And yes, i agree it has some pretty neat features for editing. All the best Steve -- Computer Room Services 77 Exeter Close Stevenage Hertfordshire SG1 4PW Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 Email: st...@comproom.co.uk Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 29 June 2015 08:51 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily Do I like what better, are you referring to Total Recorder? If so I like both Total Recorder and Goldwave, both have excellent sound editors. I’m on the record as having said that if a person bought both Total Recorder and Goldwave then they would have pretty much all the audio production and editing tools required in their basket. I’m not denying there’s a place for Sound Forge 11 Pro but not for the typical user of audio, that’s just overkill and even worse, - it seems still - a lot of Sound Forge isn’t accessible and probably will never be. Another audio tool that is often overlooked though well respected by list members - including yours truly - is Sound Recording Studio, I think I got the name right, the one marketed by American Printing House For The Blind. On 29 Jun 2015, at 5:35 pm, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Do you like it better than goldwave? Dane Trethowan wrote: If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're capturing. I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
I wouldn't expect a script developer to say anything less but the fact still remains that the latest version of Sound Forge has a whole heap of stuff that is very visual, features and functions that rely on colour coding to idetnfiy what's going on etc, something that even the best Screen Reading technology can't help you with unless the user is prepared to do some pretty time consuming and complex work thus wasting heaps of time. On 29/06/2015 5:34 PM, Brian Hartgen wrote: I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and it works very well. On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision, there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and above have serious accessibility issues in my view and, despite me reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed. On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with my editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot. Brian Hartgen Hartgen Consultancy www.hartgen.org Phone UK: 02920-850298. Phone US: 415-871-0626 JAWS Certified, 2015. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're capturing. I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily
Brian, I am using Sony Sound Forge 11, and I definitely see some issues, particularly with plug-ins, that make it less accessible. However, would you mind talking about what else doesn't work as well in Sound Forge 11? It is nice to know when a difficulty I'm having is my fault or when I can blame Sony. Also, I am not always sure when something might be due to a screen reader limitation. For example, I am having some trouble selecting audio with Mark in and Mark Out in that they just don't seem to take effect sometimes. Something is probably happening visually that is pretty self-explanatory, but it goes right past me. I do not remember having a similar problem with older versions of Sound Forge, but it doesn't seem likely this is an accessibility thing. Finally, I have worked some to dynamically expand audio to try to decompress some old DBX recordings where I don't have a functioning DBX encoder/decoder. I do not see any way to expand audio with any version of Sound Forge without graphically manipulating the envelope. I have managed to do that with the help of an Optacon, but it wasn't easy. Have you found other ways of accomplishing dynamic expansion with any version of Sound Forge? Best regards, Steve Jacobson Best regards, Steve -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Hartgen Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:35 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and it works very well. On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision, there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and above have serious accessibility issues in my view and, despite me reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed. On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with my editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot. Brian Hartgen Hartgen Consultancy www.hartgen.org Phone UK: 02920-850298. Phone US: 415-871-0626 JAWS Certified, 2015. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted, Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to record from anywhere. I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual” features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use of? If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro. > On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and you're > capturing. > I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio. > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio Daily > > http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/ > > -- > > ** > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.