Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
hi, and the wireless connectivity. it's gonna be a cool device! Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: Hi For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks very good though. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual . On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis wrote: not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: sorry about repeating everything you wrote . On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis wrote: for everyones information on price. i just looked at the website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping. it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth. On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better than the other solutions before I would buy it. On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote: Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention to the past thread, thus missed it. El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió: Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but - judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this machine in the weeks and months ahead. On 31 May 2014, at 12:27 am, Dennis wrote: well it clames it has internet radio listening cabability. not sure what that means. it also has a fm radio. it seams pretty interesting, but i don't know if i'll drop the over $700 for the thing. its over $700 because they charge shipping. the other thing that bothers me is unlike other technology these things don't go down in price. so if you don't buy it right away and want to wait, it doesn't matter because the price won't go down. i guess they are counting on a lot of agency perchases. On 5/30/2014 9:15 AM,
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Hi Dane Could be the case but I don't have a book sense so cannot compare it. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 8:41 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text You're absolutely right! My only assumption here is that the FM radio is part of one of the chips Hims is using. On 2 Jun 2014, at 4:37 pm, Adrien Collins wrote: > Hi Dane > > On my vr stream mark 2 the internet radio is great, I am > sure I saw that this new device has internet radio, I am > sure I saw that on their website. In which case, why bother > with the fm radio? > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On > Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 8:29 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media > Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant > Access to Printed Text > > I share your thoughts, I wondered about the Internet Radio > initially and came around to the idea that it made perfect > sense, if the machine has Wi-Fi capabilities and Internet > connectivity then may as well put Internet Radio and perhaps > some sort of Podcasting facility into the device but to me > FM radio is just one of those features which is there and > I'll probably never use given the fact that you'll need to > plug headphones into the device to have the FM radio work > anyway. > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 4:05 pm, Adrien Collins > wrote: > >> Hi Dane >> >> I wouldn't buy it because of the fm radio, the internet >> radio should be good enough. I would only buy it for the >> text or ocr functionality. But will see what happens. >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >> Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:33 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media >> Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant >> Access to Printed Text >> >> I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device > that >> they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could > well >> do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my >> ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were > going >> to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the > use! >> >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of >>> this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we > already >>> have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am >> only >>> really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading >>> functions, apart from an I device what else would cover >>> these features? It looks very good though. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >>> Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media >>> Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant >>> Access to Printed Text >>> >>> I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM >>> radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other >>> product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC > 2E >>> manual . >>> >>> >>> On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis >>> wrote: >>> not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i >> would >>> rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > sorry about repeating everything you wrote . > > On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis > >>> wrote: > >> for everyones information on price. i just looked at >> the >>> website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after >> that >>> its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free >> shipping. >>> it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and >>> ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and >>> see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence >> that >>> i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my > monys >>> worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's >> worth. >> On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: >>> Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on >>> documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, >>> Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, > Prizmo >>> and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much > better >>> than the other solutions before I would buy it. >>> On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio >>> wrote: Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay > attention >>> to
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
I'm sure that's right. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 3:20 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindandVisually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text Its going to have to include something, the iPhone is falling behind the rest of the pack as far as Tech Specs are concerned, of course that statement probably isn't a concern to most iPhone users , they think of an iPhone as a Christian thinks of the Lord Above . On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:33 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: Apple re imagines its iPhone hardware every two years. this year is on schedule for a new iPhone hardware design. I am quite interested to learn if the iPhone 6 will include USB 3 this fall. Kelly On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: Interesting point. I don't know many mobile devices that support USB 3.0 and that includes the iPhone and my Samsung Galaxy S4, I don't think the latter even supports USB 3.0, the only small device around I have which does support it - via a firmware update - is the Zoom H1 Recorder, don't even think the Olympus DM4 supports USB 3.0. On 2 Jun 2014, at 2:53 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: something not mentioned in the pres release, on the Hims website or in a TechTalk presentation was the version of USB used. All current portable book readers use USB 2.0. this includes the next generation Victor Stream. The current version of USB is 3.0, which has significantly faster file transfer rates than USB 2.0. I sent an e-mail to Hims last week and have not received a response. If Hims opted for USB 2.0, I will likely wait to learn if others introduce a portable book reader with OCR that includes USB 3.0. this issue reminds me of quality recording capacity in the last generation of portable book players. the Plextalk Pocket and Book Port Plus were the only units with a quality recorder. I have since used the recorder for various purposes, including making broadcast quality recordings of lectures that later were aired on radio stations. with the last generation of players, I'm glad I waited for the Book Port Plus. Kelly On 5/31/14, Dave McElroy wrote: you and me both. Just give me good and reliable portable ocr, please. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 4:10 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text To be honest I couldn't give a damn, its the OCR part which is of interest to me at least, this really is the first device of its kind outside the KNFB reader. If OCR does well then I'll be most satisfied. I plan to buy one of these devices in our Spring - September so I'm sure a lot of water will flow under the bridge between now and then. On 31 May 2014, at 6:28 pm, Peter Scanlon wrote: Well, having FM is nothing like the ability to have internet radio I mentioned. It does apparently have this facility, but I will be interested to see if it uses Ootunes or something else like Tune In Radio. P. -Original Message- From: Brian Olesen Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:22 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text hi, Well this is because it has fm radio build in, and it's just a matter of a little software upgrade to build it in. So it will definately come very soon. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Peter Scanlon Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:15 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that GivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text Pity it doesn't have a radio listening thing like Ootunes like the victor. -Original Message- From: Dennis Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 12:02 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text oh yes! after seeing the cost of the booksence when it came out i figured this thing would cost every bit of $900 to $1000. i just wonder if the media player is better than the booksence was. it has a lot of other features that the booksence does and i just wonder if they are improved or the same. btw: the booksence is $50 less than when it came out a few years ago. i would have thought it would have come down a little more than that. On 5/30/2014 8:53 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Did you think it would be more expensive? That's a U.S. price, Goodness Knows what it will be by the time it reaches the Land Downunder. On 30 May 2014, at 10:38 pm, Dennis wrote: wow the price isn't anywhare near what i thought it would be. On 5/30/2014 5:17 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://ww
winamp shuffling files
Hi all I use winamp only to play audio books. or some reason, although this worked quite well in the past, now when I load a directory into winamp, shuffle seems to be turned on. I cannot seem to find the command to turn shuffle off with Jaws 14 scripts. Can anyone help here? Andre
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
Now look what you've done, we'll have people whining that the Wi-Fi connectivity isn't good enough, it should have the new C standard I think it is . On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:09 pm, Brian Olesen wrote: > hi, > and the wireless connectivity. > it's gonna be a cool device! > > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:12 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives > Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text > > Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a > device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be > inferior to a dedicated FM radio. > > The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of > these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you > 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any > practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. > > Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing > about this equipment than a FM radio. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: > >> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the >> BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not >> very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo >> mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations >> better using the same earphones as the antenna. >> >> Gary King >> w4...@bellsouth.net >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM >> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives >> Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text >> >> >> I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will >> appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet >> radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that >> they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! >> >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins >> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of >>> this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already >>> have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only >>> really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading >>> functions, apart from an I device what else would cover >>> these features? It looks very good though. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >>> Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media >>> Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant >>> Access to Printed Text >>> >>> I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM >>> radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other >>> product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E >>> manual . >>> >>> >>> On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis >>> wrote: >>> not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would >>> rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > sorry about repeating everything you wrote . > > On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis >>> wrote: > >> for everyones information on price. i just looked at the >>> website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that >>> its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping. >>> it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and >>> ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and >>> see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that >>> i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys >>> worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth. >> On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: >>> Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on >>> documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, >>> Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo >>> and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better >>> than the other solutions before I would buy it. >>> On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio >>> wrote: Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention >>> to the past thread, thus missed it. El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió: > Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what >>> others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get >>> one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but - >>> judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're >>> going to see some most interesting chatter rega
Re: winamp shuffling files
Hey... Just hit "s" within the playlist editor (actually this might work in the main window as well) and shuffle will be turned off. - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: ; "National Accessibility Portal mailing list with topics focused onaccessibility for users with visual disabilities." ; "mediareq" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:02 AM Subject: winamp shuffling files Hi all I use winamp only to play audio books. or some reason, although this worked quite well in the past, now when I load a directory into winamp, shuffle seems to be turned on. I cannot seem to find the command to turn shuffle off with Jaws 14 scripts. Can anyone help here? Andre
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
Grin. Ah you are just too mad funny Dain. You've put a smile on my face yet again my friend. Yes you are correct. AC is the new one. That would be epic if it had it! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text Now look what you've done, we'll have people whining that the Wi-Fi connectivity isn't good enough, it should have the new C standard I think it is . On 2 Jun 2014, at 5:09 pm, Brian Olesen wrote: > hi, > and the wireless connectivity. > it's gonna be a cool device! > > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:12 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives > Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text > > Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. > > The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. > > Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: > >> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. >> >> Gary King >> w4...@bellsouth.net >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM >> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player >> thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed >> Text >> >> >> I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! >> >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget >>> will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet >>> radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the >>> ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device >>> what else would cover these features? It looks very good though. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Adrien >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that >>> Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text >>> >>> I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on >>> the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your >>> moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual . >>> >>> >>> On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis >>> wrote: >>> not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would >>> rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > sorry about repeating everything you wrote . > > On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis >>> wrote: > >> for everyones information on price. i just looked at the >>> website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its >>> $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping. >>> it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one >>> just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it >>> sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just >>> don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the blaze.this is >>> just my 2 penny's worth. >> On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: >>> Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on >>> documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kurzweil >>> 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo and the standscan >>> pro. Results need to be much much better than the other solutions >>> before I would buy it. >>> On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio >>> wrote: Anyone post the video? I guess I d
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text
It has N at least though right? I should think so. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 3:10 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text hi, and the wireless connectivity. it's gonna be a cool device! Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:12 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media PlayerthatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access toPrinted Text Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: > If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the > BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not > very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo > mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations > better using the same earphones as the antenna. > > Gary King > w4...@bellsouth.net > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives > Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text > > > I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will > appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet > radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that > they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the > use! > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins > wrote: > >> Hi >> >> For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of >> this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already >> have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only >> really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading >> functions, apart from an I device what else would cover >> these features? It looks very good though. >> >> Regards >> >> Adrien >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On >> Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media >> Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant >> Access to Printed Text >> >> I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM >> radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other >> product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E >> manual . >> >> >> On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis >> wrote: >> >>> not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would >> rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. >>> On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: sorry about repeating everything you wrote . On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis >> wrote: > for everyones information on price. i just looked at the >> website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that >> its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping. >> it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and >> ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and >> see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that >> i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys >> worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth. > On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: >> Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on >> documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, >> Kurzweil 1000 and the combination of the IPhone 5S, Prizmo >> and the standscan pro. Results need to be much much better >> than the other solutions before I would buy it. >> >>> On May 30, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Gerardo Corripio >> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone post the video? I guess I didn't pay attention >> to the past thread, thus missed it. >>> >>> El 30/05/2014 09:30 a.m., Dane Trethowan escribió: Only advantage in waiting a bit is that you hear what >> others are saying, read reviews etc, I won't be able to get >> one for quite some time - even if I wanted one - but - >> judging by the Youtube video I referred to earlier - we're >> going to see some most interesting chatter regarding this >
Re: Sound card recommendation wanted
dane is it difficult to install this firmware or just copy it in to a folder on the sd card in the unit? On 6/2/2014 12:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Yep, make sure the latest system firmware is installed. On 2 Jun 2014, at 12:04 pm, tim cumings wrote: dane do you have to install any special software on the h-1 to do this. Or do you simnply hook it up to a an usb port and it shows up as an input device? On 6/1/2014 5:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, I've tested it as a sound device and yes it works well. Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a high quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a Line-in source though I can't see why it wouldn't work. On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton wrote: Dave, I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if only, the interface from dell were accessible. On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs. Take care, Joe On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700 Dave McElroy wrote: Gee thanks, Joe, lol. Guess what sound i've got with my new pc? yep, the Realtech. Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted Hi, I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good. Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the holder of these opinions. So here are some of my opinions. I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96. There were occasional problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system were rebooted. I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really got behind the problem. I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7. The control pannel, delivered with the latest revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years ago. Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper. Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8 GB ram, and 1 TB HD. The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with. Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when changing settings. There are settings in the control pannel, that are not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it. I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots only. The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they are blowing so life is limited. This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam. I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers. shame. So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds. Then we should be good to go as they say. Thanks, Joe On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500 Kelly Pierce wrote: dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip. Last year I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor. It had built in high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my XP machine. I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the screen reader audio and music independently. About a month ago, I bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including shipping. It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone inputs, the latter with a pre-amp. It is compatible with windows 8.1 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with JAWS. Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed. Normally, this retails for about $200. Kelly On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia. Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first w
Re: Sound card recommendation wanted
You may need a bit of sighted assistance here, I have a document explaining what needs to be done so I'll share it with the list however you do need to follow an onscreen prompt. On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:16 pm, tim cumings wrote: > > dane is it difficult to install this firmware or just copy it in to a folder > on the sd card in the unit? > On 6/2/2014 12:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Yep, make sure the latest system firmware is installed. >> >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 12:04 pm, tim cumings wrote: >> >>> dane do you have to install any special software on the h-1 to do this. Or >>> do you simnply hook it up to a an usb port and it shows up as an input >>> device? >>> >>> On 6/1/2014 5:35 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Speaking of Sound Devices and the like I meant to mention my new Zoom H1, I've tested it as a sound device and yes it works well. Put simply connecting the Zoom H1 ia a USB connection turns the H1 into a high quality x/y pattern desktop microphone, extend this by adding another microphone to the Mic input socket, don't know how this would go with a Line-in source though I can't see why it wouldn't work. On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:05 am, Joe Paton wrote: > Dave, > > I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if > only, the interface from dell were accessible. > > On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often > picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs. > > Take care, > > Joe > > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700 > Dave McElroy wrote: > > Gee thanks, Joe, lol. Guess what sound i've got with my new pc? yep, the > Realtech. Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted > needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe > Paton > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted > > Hi, > > I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good. > > Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by > specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity > takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the > holder of these opinions. So here are some of my opinions. > > I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96. There were occasional > problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system > were rebooted. I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really > got behind the problem. > > I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7. The control > pannel, delivered with the latest > revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However > when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price > also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years > ago. Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper. > > Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8 > GB ram, and 1 TB HD. > > The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is > quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with. > > Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when > changing settings. There are settings in the control pannel, that are > not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it. > > I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots > only. The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although > there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes > it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which > will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they > are blowing so life is limited. > > This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam. > > I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers. > shame. > > So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I > already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds. > > Then we should be good to go as they say. > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > > > > On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500 > Kelly Pierce wrote: > > dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high > definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip. Last year > I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor. It had built in > high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the > M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audi
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I should buy the replacement device from them. Kelly On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: Hi For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks very good though. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual . On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis wrote: not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: sorry about repeating everything you wrote . On 31 May 2014, at 3:49 am, Dennis wrote: for everyones information on price. i just looked at the website and if you order before june 30 its $695 after that its $749. if you order before may 31, you get free shipping. it ships in late june. i almost dropped the hammer and ordered one just now. but i cant help wanting to wait and see the reviews on it sence i already have a booksence that i payed $500 for and i just don't know if i'd get my monys worth from buying the blaze.this is just my 2 penny's worth. On 5/30/2014 12:14 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello everyone. I'll have to see it and try it on documents that really challenge solutions like Openbook, Kur
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
And with the apparent advent of a KNFB ocr app for the iphone on the horizon, that would seem to put even more pressure on this ocr to be something very special indeed. Mary
RE: Sound card recommendation wanted
I have a note book computer with a realtech card, and I couldn't get any microphone to work with it including the internal mic on the computer itself. I completely uninstalled the Realtech drivers and let Windows install its own drivers. Now the mic works perfectly. If you're using speech, make sure you either have sighted assistance or a Braille display at your disposal before you do this. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 5:05 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted Dave, I think that the device is probably capable of sounding pretty good, if only, the interface from dell were accessible. On other machines, the real tek devices have been pretty ok, often picking up a bit of digital noise from the bus, but ok for my needs. Take care, Joe On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:36:31 -0700 Dave McElroy wrote: Gee thanks, Joe, lol. Guess what sound i've got with my new pc? yep, the Realtech. Well, so far i guess it is ok for my admittedly more linitted needs, but i do wish i could bump up the highs. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe Paton Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:56 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound card recommendation wanted Hi, I aggree that on-board sound systems can be pretty good. Comparisons between different sound cards, if supported by specifications are invaluable. If not, then an element of subjectivity takes us in to an area where opinions are only really valuable to the holder of these opinions. So here are some of my opinions. I used to be happy with my audiofile 24/96. There were occasional problems with crackle on one channel, this would go away if the system were rebooted. I suspect that this was a driver issue, but never really got behind the problem. I used this card with XP, and more recently windows 7. The control pannel, delivered with the latest revision of the drivers became unusable with a screen reader, However when set up, the card behaved well enough, considering that the price also has dropped from the time when I first bought mine, some 8 years ago. Still a good card, and gave good latency when used with Reeper. Then I changed the computer, and bought a Dell optiplex, I5 processor, 8 GB ram, and 1 TB HD. The onboard audio device, a real tek High definition audio system, is quite frankly, the worst audio device I have ever worked with. Dell's control pannel, is partly accessible, but it is hit and miss when changing settings. There are settings in the control pannel, that are not exposed to the windows mixer, so you have to use it. I couldn't use the audiofile 24/96 because the optiplex uses PCIE slots only. The audiofile, is available only as a PCI board, and although there are converters from PCIe to PCI, the profile of the 24/96 excludes it from this adaption so this sound card is now in an older dell, which will run only as long as the capacitors hold out on the board, and they are blowing so life is limited. This is why I am now looking to use the audio interfaces from tascam. I already have a US-122-A B but this device has no windows 7 drivers. shame. So I am looking at the current tascam range, similar to the device I already own, and this replacement should cost about 80 UK pounds. Then we should be good to go as they say. Thanks, Joe On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 11:33:14 -0500 Kelly Pierce wrote: dane accurately points out that many quality computers have high definition audio built right into the motherboard or chip. Last year I bought a Dell 8700 with the Intel 4770 processor. It had built in high-definition audio equal to and actually slightly better than the M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 audio interface I bought 10 years ago for my XP machine. I like working with two sound cards so I can manage the screen reader audio and music independently. About a month ago, I bought the Roland Duo audio interface from e-Bay for $37, including shipping. It is a USB interface that has both line in and microphone inputs, the latter with a pre-amp. It is compatible with windows 8.1 and except for one button during installation, it is accessible with JAWS. Instruments sound distinct and unprocessed. Normally, this retails for about $200. Kelly On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Okay, I've done a Google search to see if this device is available in > Australia, the 129 device is easily got through eBay though I'd have to > import it so I will import if I can't get the device in Australia. > > Anyway back to my initial Google Search, I came up first with the 100 model > so the obvious question is, what's the difference between the 100 and the > 129 models? > > On 31 May 2014, at 11:09 pm, Joe Paton wrote: > >> Hello. >> You could look at the Tascam US 122 MK II USB Audio-Interface: >> I'm about to get a-hold of the next model, us-124 I think it
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
That brings up another question, the Hims Inc product has stereo speakers, will they sound any better than what the single speaker of the Human beware product does? I have to say that I was totally underwhelmed by the sound of the speaker of the new VR Stream from Human Beware, yep its better than the rubbish type speaker found on the original Human Beware VR Stream but its still not good compared to other speakers I've heard, take the speaker of the iPhone 5, the Samsung Galaxy S4 etc. On 3 Jun 2014, at 2:12 am, Gary King wrote: > Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except > for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the > difference in price for that feature. > > Gary King > w4...@bellsouth.net > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player > thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text > > > You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed > as it is out the door for the price. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: > >> the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB >> file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with >> windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I >> want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of >> today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of >> yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official >> specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports >> connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. >> >> The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification >> sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an >> FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. >> Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just >> because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I >> should buy the replacement device from them. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in >>> a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be >>> inferior to a dedicated FM radio. >>> >>> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one >>> of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving >>> you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any >>> practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. >>> >>> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more >>> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: >>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: > Hi > > For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of > this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already > have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only > really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading > functions, apart from an I device what else would cover > these features? It looks very good though. > > Regards > > Adrien > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On > Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media > Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant > Access to Printed Text > > I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM > radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other > product when yo
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Hi Gary What was that device from humanware? Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: > the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB > file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with > windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I > want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of > today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of > yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official > specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports > connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. > > The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification > sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an > FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. > Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just > because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I > should buy the replacement device from them. > > Kelly > > > > On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio >> in >> a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be >> inferior to a dedicated FM radio. >> >> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting >> one >> of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun >> giving >> you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any >> practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. >> >> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more >> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. >> >> >> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: >> >>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the >>> BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is >>> not >>> very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo >>> mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak >>> stations >>> better using the same earphones as the antenna. >>> >>> Gary King >>> w4...@bellsouth.net >>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives >>> Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text >>> >>> >>> I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope >>> will >>> appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and >>> Internet >>> radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday >>> that >>> they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the >>> use! >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins >>> wrote: >>> Hi For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks very good though. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player that Gives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I can quite understand that, one of the most sensitive AM radios on the planet today, you can then buy the other product when your moneybox is full again to read the CC 2E manual . On 31 May 2014, at 4:21 am, Dennis wrote: > not a problem. you are one of my favorites.i think i would rather spend my money on a new cc radio 2. > On 5/30/2014 1:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wro
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Hi Dane I have both models of vr stream and to be honest, the speaker is pretty poor considering what we pay for it and that a lot of us have to rely on the stream, they could use a much better quality speaker, the one that is in the plextalk pocket is far better. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text That brings up another question, the Hims Inc product has stereo speakers, will they sound any better than what the single speaker of the Human beware product does? I have to say that I was totally underwhelmed by the sound of the speaker of the new VR Stream from Human Beware, yep its better than the rubbish type speaker found on the original Human Beware VR Stream but its still not good compared to other speakers I've heard, take the speaker of the iPhone 5, the Samsung Galaxy S4 etc. On 3 Jun 2014, at 2:12 am, Gary King wrote: > Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. > > Gary King > w4...@bellsouth.net > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text > > > You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: > >> the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB >> file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with >> windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I >> want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of >> today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of >> yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official >> specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports >> connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. >> >> The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification >> sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an >> FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. >> Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just >> because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I >> should buy the replacement device from them. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in >>> a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be >>> inferior to a dedicated FM radio. >>> >>> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one >>> of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving >>> you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any >>> practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. >>> >>> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more >>> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: >>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: > Hi > > For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of > this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already > have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only > really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading > functions, apart from an I device what else would cover > these features? It looks very goo
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Interesting, I didn't know about a pending KNFB Reader for IOS, wonder how much it will cost? Again, its going to come down to personal preference and so on, we've seen in this discussion that there are quite a few people who don't like the idea of a touch screen thus don't like the iPhone or similar and - however good or bad the new Hims Inc product is - the Interface would appear to be straight forward, press the O button for OCR and so forth, few buttons on the front of the unit thus avoiding clutter etc. On 3 Jun 2014, at 2:16 am, Mary Otten wrote: > And with the apparent advent of a KNFB ocr app for the iphone on the > horizon, that would seem to put even more pressure on this ocr to be > something very special indeed. > > Mary > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Aww hell yeah the Plextalk speaker is better. Plextalk always had nice clear sound. Though they also now lack now I've gotten use to epic sound from Bose. Lol. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrien Collins Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:25 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text Hi Dane I have both models of vr stream and to be honest, the speaker is pretty poor considering what we pay for it and that a lot of us have to rely on the stream, they could use a much better quality speaker, the one that is in the plextalk pocket is far better. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 7:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text That brings up another question, the Hims Inc product has stereo speakers, will they sound any better than what the single speaker of the Human beware product does? I have to say that I was totally underwhelmed by the sound of the speaker of the new VR Stream from Human Beware, yep its better than the rubbish type speaker found on the original Human Beware VR Stream but its still not good compared to other speakers I've heard, take the speaker of the iPhone 5, the Samsung Galaxy S4 etc. On 3 Jun 2014, at 2:12 am, Gary King wrote: > Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. > > Gary King > w4...@bellsouth.net > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text > > > You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: > >> the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB >> file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with >> windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I >> want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of >> today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of >> yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official >> specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports >> connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. >> >> The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification >> sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an >> FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. >> Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just >> because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I >> should buy the replacement device from them. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in >>> a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be >>> inferior to a dedicated FM radio. >>> >>> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one >>> of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving >>> you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any >>> practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. >>> >>> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more >>> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: >>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of
RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
Ah now anything Samsung has epic christal clear sound. The Iphone 5 does too. Mind you, I'm talking about the 5S because I don't know about the speaker in the 5C. If the Iphone had a stereo pair, that would be so epic. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 1:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text That brings up another question, the Hims Inc product has stereo speakers, will they sound any better than what the single speaker of the Human beware product does? I have to say that I was totally underwhelmed by the sound of the speaker of the new VR Stream from Human Beware, yep its better than the rubbish type speaker found on the original Human Beware VR Stream but its still not good compared to other speakers I've heard, take the speaker of the iPhone 5, the Samsung Galaxy S4 etc. On 3 Jun 2014, at 2:12 am, Gary King wrote: > Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. > > Gary King > w4...@bellsouth.net > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM > Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player > thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed > Text > > > You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. > > > On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: > >> the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB >> file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with >> windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. >> I want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of >> today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of >> yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official >> specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports >> connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. >> >> The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification >> sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as >> an FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. >> Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just >> because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I >> should buy the replacement device from them. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM >>> radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - >>> is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. >>> >>> The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother >>> putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit >>> like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they >>> particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. >>> >>> Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more >>> appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: >>> If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: > Hi > > For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this > gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the > internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really > interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart > from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks > very good though. >>>
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized MediaPlayer thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Accessto Printed Text
The new generation of the Victor Reader Stream is priced at $369 in the US. The features of the two devices are similar, or probably will be, after the Blaze EZ is upgraded a few times. The major difference is that the Blaze EZ has OCR, which is the reason for the big price tag. Some procedures on the Blaze EZ won't be so easy to perform due to the lack of a numeric keyboard. All input will be by selecting letters, numbers and symbols from a grid. Well, I guess you only need to enter your network password once. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Adrien Collins" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 1:22 PM Subject: RE: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized MediaPlayer thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Accessto Printed Text Hi Gary What was that device from humanware? Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary King Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:13 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text Humanware got a device out for $369 with the same basic feature set except for OCR. So, the OCR better be really good since you will be paying the difference in price for that feature. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 11:05 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text You think so? I'm surprised that Hims Inc can get a device as feature packed as it is out the door for the price. On 2 Jun 2014, at 11:31 am, Kelly Pierce wrote: the issue is that at this price, it is reasonable to expect the USB file transfer technology of this decade not the previous one. with windows 8.1, people are gradually adopting and accepting Windows 8. I want a device that is future focused and ready for the computers of today and tomorrow not geared for a computing environment of yesteryear. Earlier this year, USB 3.1 was released as an official specification. It is fully backward compatible and supports connectors inserted in both ways like Apple's Lightning port. The FM radio seems to be a cheep add on to add to a specification sheet. Those that are brand loyal to Hims will likely demand it as an FM radio was in its previous generation portable book reader. Personally, I'm bloodless when it comes to choosing devices. Just because I bought a device from one company in the past doesn't mean I should buy the replacement device from them. Kelly On 6/1/14, Dane Trethowan wrote: Honestly, all this fuss about a FM radio, everyone knows that a FM radio in a device such as this - whether it be a Phone or similar - is bound to be inferior to a dedicated FM radio. The only real reason I can think of that Hims Inc would bother putting one of these into their products is because they can, a bit like Tecsun giving you 3,000 memories into a radio, not because they particularly serve any practical purpose having that many, just because Tecsun can do it. Its the OCR and associated functionality that I would think is more appealing about this equipment than a FM radio. On 2 Jun 2014, at 10:05 am, Gary King wrote: If the FM radio in the Blaze EZ is not any better than the one in the BookSense XT, then it won't be much. The FM radio in the BookSense is not very sensitive, and the signal must be very strong to keep it in stereo mode. The FM radio in my old Nokia N82 cell phone picks up weak stations better using the same earphones as the antenna. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:32 PM Subject: Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGives Blindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text I guess the problem is that Hims Inc has made a device that they hope will appeal to a mass market, I myself could well do without a FM and Internet radio, I couldn't believe my ears when I heard someone say Yesterday that they were going to buy this device because of its FM radio, what's the use! On 2 Jun 2014, at 7:01 am, Adrien Collins wrote: Hi For us in Europe I have just calculated that the cost of this gadget will be around £400, not bad but as we already have the internet radio on our vr streams mark 2, I am only really interested in the ocr and epub and other reading functions, apart from an I device what else would cover these features? It looks very good though. Regards Adrien -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:00 PM To: PC Audio Disc
Re: HIMS Inc. Releases New Pocket-sized Media Player thatGivesBlindand Visually Impaired Near-instant Access to Printed Text
There are 3 sessions scheduled for the upcoming NFB convention having to do with this KNFB app for iPHone. That's all I know; so it might not even be release ready. It was just teased out there on blindbargains.com last Friday. I agree that the Hims device looks very straight forward for the ocr. But the price tag is pretty hefty, so it'll need to be good. Mary
KNFB Reader For iPhone
Hi! Mary I apologies, its your original eMail I intended to reply to however I deleted it by mistake so I've had to start with a completely different subject line. In your eMail you mentioned the KNFB Reader for iPhone? I did some research thanks to my friend Google and found that there were no plans for a KNFB reader for IOS though that information was current as of the iPhone 4S so things may have changed. To the point however, if anyone wanted to buy the KNFB reader for say the Nokia N82 then they would have been looking at a purchase price of $995 so if the new product from Hims Inc is going to have to offer something pretty good then the KNFB Reader App for IOS - assuming there will be one and assuming the pricing is the same - is going to have to offer the gold at the end of the rainbow right there in our hands. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: KNFB Reader For iPhone
The "gold" of which you speak, imho, wiykd be a portablel ocr product that would be able to read any print put in front of it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 4:49 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: KNFB Reader For iPhone Hi! Mary I apologies, its your original eMail I intended to reply to however I deleted it by mistake so I've had to start with a completely different subject line. In your eMail you mentioned the KNFB Reader for iPhone? I did some research thanks to my friend Google and found that there were no plans for a KNFB reader for IOS though that information was current as of the iPhone 4S so things may have changed. To the point however, if anyone wanted to buy the KNFB reader for say the Nokia N82 then they would have been looking at a purchase price of $995 so if the new product from Hims Inc is going to have to offer something pretty good then the KNFB Reader App for IOS - assuming there will be one and assuming the pricing is the same - is going to have to offer the gold at the end of the rainbow right there in our hands. ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
Re: KNFB Reader For iPhone
Hi Dane, Yes, I know the old KNFB was very big bucks indeed. However, knowing that the app ecosystem will not allow for such hefty price tags, e.g. Nearby Explorer and Seeing Eye gps, both of which replicate the functionality of much more expensive products for blindness specific devices, yet they cost a lot less, I assume that the KNFB app will have to do likewise. As noted in a previous message responding to your query, there was a brief mention on blindbargains.com stating that there are 3 sessions on the upcoming NFB convention agenda that are related to this apparent app. Blindbargains didn't offer any more detail. So it is anybody's guess at this point. Mary
Re: KNFB Reader For iPhone
Thanks for that, I found an article on the web where the author compared the KNFB Reader on the Nokia N82 to a well known OCR App which was available on the iPhone, the article is fairly old and talked about the iPhone 4S so times have indeed changed. On 3 Jun 2014, at 10:06 am, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Dane, > > Yes, I know the old KNFB was very big bucks indeed. However, knowing > that the app ecosystem will not allow for such hefty price tags, e.g. > Nearby Explorer and Seeing Eye gps, both of which replicate the > functionality of much more expensive products for blindness specific > devices, yet they cost a lot less, I assume that the KNFB app will have > to do likewise. As noted in a previous message responding to your > query, there was a brief mention on blindbargains.com stating that > there are 3 sessions on the upcoming NFB convention agenda that are > related to this apparent app. Blindbargains didn't offer any more > detail. So it is anybody's guess at this point. > > Mary > > ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
