Re: Soundbars

[Gary Wood]

I think it might be above the TV.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:58 PM
Subject: Soundbars


Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone 
could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.


I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 
19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a 
soundbar, would be near perfect.


So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or 
what?

Re: Sound bars

[Gary Wood]

I hear they are long, but I would think you wouldn't get surround sound from 
something that's a long rectangle.
- Original Message - 
From: "Merv Keck" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars



A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. We
have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that can sit
on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has connections for
digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input although that is not 
very
accessible for accessing on our system. We do not have all the equipment 
you
have but I am working on modifying our setup because I'm not happy with 
the
way it's set up right now. Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that 
is

a separate piece of equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That
definitely sits on the floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great 
sound
but I put an HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on 
it

to work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy
salesperson gave me at the local store.

Re: Soundbars

[Gary Wood]

I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen.
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Ramage" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Soundbars


Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This Soundbar
is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is remarkable.  When it
is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear
sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers
but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it
acts just like a surround sound system.  The set up procedure is all
automated and you are talked through it.  It comes with a large subwoofer
and it is a really high quality sound.  The sound bar can be placed on the
wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV.  This positioning has
no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to
its position.  The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you
pay for.  It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches
deep.  The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on.
As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S.  You
can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar
doesn't come with a subwoofer.  You can get much more expensive soundbars
but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't.  The SR1
has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the
sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my
view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price.  It is really worth
your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself.  Walter

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Trethowan
Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Soundbars

Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone
could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller
19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a
soundbar, would be near perfect.

So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or
what?




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Re: Soundbars

[Gary Wood]

With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well 
as watching TV.  I also think that music sounds great on it.
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From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars 
are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my 
situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound 
system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I 
can use with my Television.


Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the 
experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box 
etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on.


It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television 
these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in 
those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of 
string.


There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being 
that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick 
as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of 
physics.



On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage  wrote:


Hi Tom.  It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for.  If a
soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it 
is
worthit.  each person must decide what they can afford and act 
accordingly.

If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then
feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. 
I

think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a
particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to 
music

seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option.  If though it is to use
with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment.  If you are 
going

to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar
first by visiting a reputable dealer.  There are soundbars to suit every
pocket the sound quality will generally match the price.  Walter.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Soundbars

Oh my goodness!  While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price 
tag

is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the
sound for the television in the living room!  I've heard of these 
soundbars

before, but have never heard or seen one!  Is there one that would do the
job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Soundbars

Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This Soundbar
is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is remarkable.  When 
it

is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear
sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers
but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it
acts just like a surround sound system.  The set up procedure is all
automated and you are talked through it.  It comes with a large subwoofer
and it is a really high quality sound.  The sound bar can be placed on the
wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV.  This positioning has
no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to
its position.  The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you
pay for.  It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches
deep.  The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned 
on.

As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S.  You
can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar
doesn't come with a subwoofer.  You can get much more expensive soundbars
but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't.  The SR1
has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the
sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in 
my
view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price.  It is really 
worth

your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself.  Walter

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Soundbars

Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone
could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller
19 inch set I 

Re: Sound bars

[Gary Wood]

But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my 
surround sound and speakers.  Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out 
somewhere.
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From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
would

have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television
sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  It's a shame 
that

you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not
much better than a little portable set!  Of course I think I know that the
idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go 
out
and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) 
would
be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then 
people
wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television back 
here

in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But the Sony
41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that
it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe
one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go to
the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only when 
the

television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and
amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
they

sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a
bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the
television sound quality.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the
Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the
Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart
device.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:

Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound 
bar


on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I purchased 
is


about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the size 
in



length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom
surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the television sound
quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, 
and


needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
remote



signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from my
tablet or iphone with it.

Hope this helps,
Mike
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
Subject: Soundbars


Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps 
someone



could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the 
smaller


19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top 
of



a soundbar, would be near perfect.

So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall
or what?







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RE: Soundbars

[Walter Ramage]

Don't know who told you that?  but either they don't know what they are
talking about or are trying to wind you up, or both.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: 10 May 2014 09:20
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen.
- Original Message -
From: "Walter Ramage" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Soundbars


Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This Soundbar
is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is remarkable.  When it
is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear
sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers
but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it
acts just like a surround sound system.  The set up procedure is all
automated and you are talked through it.  It comes with a large subwoofer
and it is a really high quality sound.  The sound bar can be placed on the
wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV.  This positioning has
no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to
its position.  The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you
pay for.  It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches
deep.  The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on.
As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S.  You
can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar
doesn't come with a subwoofer.  You can get much more expensive soundbars
but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't.  The SR1
has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the
sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my
view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price.  It is really worth
your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself.  Walter

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Soundbars

Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone
could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller
19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a
soundbar, would be near perfect.

So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or
what?




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RE: Sound bars

[Hamit Campos]

I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact
that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But
there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of
sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people
try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not
so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my
surround sound and speakers.  Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out
somewhere.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


> Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
> would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the 
> television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  
> It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that 
> audio sound like not much better than a little portable set!  Of 
> course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the 
> manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound 
> system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if 
> they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people 
> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television 
> back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But 
> the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't 
> really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the 
> TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for 
> it!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Thomas
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go 
> to the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only 
> when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the 
> sound bar and
> amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
> they sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help 
> quite a bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected 
> to the television sound quality.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
>
> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if 
> the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to 
> the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with 
> your smart device.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a 
>> sound bar
>
>> on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I 
>> purchased is
>
>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the 
>> size in
>
>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat 
>> bottom surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the 
>> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit 
>> behind the sound bar, and
>
>> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
>> remote
>
>> signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
>> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a 
>> blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from 
>> my tablet or iphone with it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
>> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Soundbars
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps 
>> someone
>
>> could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.
>>
>> I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the 
>> smaller
>
>> 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on 
>> top of
>
>> a soundbar, would be near perfect.
>>
>> So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a 
>> wall or what?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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RE: Soundbars

[Hamit Campos]

Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the
things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's
cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more
detail. I played Tik Tok on it.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well
as watching TV.  I also think that music sounds great on it.
- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars
are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my
situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound
system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I
can use with my Television.

Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the
experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box
etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on.

It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television
these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in
those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of
string.

There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being
that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick
as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of
physics.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage  wrote:

> Hi Tom.  It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for.  If 
> a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I 
> guess it is worthit.  each person must decide what they can afford and 
> act accordingly.
> If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then 
> feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality.
> I
> think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a 
> particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to 
> music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option.  If though it 
> is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment.  
> If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to 
> audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer.  There are 
> soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match 
> the price.  Walter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Soundbars
>
> Oh my goodness!  While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the 
> price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to 
> improve the sound for the television in the living room!  I've heard 
> of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one!  Is there 
> one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as 
> this one you have described?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Walter Ramage
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Soundbars
>
> Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This 
> Soundbar is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is 
> remarkable.  When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment 
> or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you 
> know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds 
> off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system.  
> The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it.  
> It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound.  
> The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in 
> front of the TV.  This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality 
> due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position.  The 
> Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for.  It 
> isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep.  The 
> Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on.
> As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S.  
> You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas 
> Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer.  You can get much more 
> expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the 
> SR1 you don't.  The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the 
> price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a 
> number of other benefit

RE: Soundbars

[Hamit Campos]

Interesting. I haven't heard that as if yet. I should ask Scott about this.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen.
- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Ramage" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Soundbars


Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This Soundbar
is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is remarkable.  When it
is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear
sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers
but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it
acts just like a surround sound system.  The set up procedure is all
automated and you are talked through it.  It comes with a large subwoofer
and it is a really high quality sound.  The sound bar can be placed on the
wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV.  This positioning has
no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to
its position.  The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you
pay for.  It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches
deep.  The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on.
As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S.  You
can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar
doesn't come with a subwoofer.  You can get much more expensive soundbars
but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't.  The SR1
has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the
sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my
view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price.  It is really worth
your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself.  Walter

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Soundbars

Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone
could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller
19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a
soundbar, would be near perfect.

So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or
what?




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RE: Sound bars

[Hamit Campos]

You get exagurated stereo. The SRS Wow effect. That's all it is. I have SRS
all day here. I'm using the Bose Companion 5 Multimedia speakers. It's a
pare a USB stereo pare, but you spit a 5.1  signal at them. Thus you get
virtual 5.1 surround sound.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:17 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

I hear they are long, but I would think you wouldn't get surround sound from
something that's a long rectangle.
- Original Message -
From: "Merv Keck" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


>A sound bar is exactly what it implies in the case of the one we have. 
>We  have a Samsung and it is a long rectangle shaped bar of sound that 
>can sit  on the floor or a shelf or be mounted on the wall. It has 
>connections for  digital audio, HDMI, and also has a USB card input 
>although that is not  very  accessible for accessing on our system. We 
>do not have all the equipment  you  have but I am working on modifying 
>our setup because I'm not happy with  the  way it's set up right now. 
>Also this model has a wireless subwoofer that  is  a separate piece of 
>equipment and also needs to be plugged in. That  definitely sits on the 
>floor out of the way somewhere. Ours has great  sound  but I put an 
>HDMI switcher on it because it didn't have enough inputs on  it  to 
>work with everything I had in spite of the assurances the Best buy  
>salesperson gave me at the local store.
>
>
> 

RE: Recording Made On Zoom H1 - Early Morning Coffee

[Hamit Campos]

This is cool man. I'm listening to it right now with Power DVD. I'm at the
part where you are sturring the coffee.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:00 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Recording Made On Zoom H1 - Early Morning Coffee

Hi!

This is a recording I made last year, its a recording of me preparing Early
Morning Coffee in my kitchen, very nice audio quality if I dare say so
myself , the kettle masks some of the sounds but still not too bad.

Note this recording is in FLAC format so bee sure your Media Player will
handle it.

If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, file
may still be uploading to Dropbox.

**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane

Re: "Fumblin' Around" for the ACTUAL DOWNLOAD CONTROL for Dream Voice Reader

[James Scholes]

Open the App Store on your phone.  Search for "Voice Dream Reader".
Double tap the button showing the price to show the Install button, and
then double tap that.
-- 
James Scholes
http://twitter.com/JamesScholes

Re: Sound bars

[Mike Thomas]

Hi Tom,  Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 
inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar.  They offer enough internal 
enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had.  Remember to 
get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for 
great stereo separation.  Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 
65 for the sound bar.  It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've 
never regretted the purchase.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
would

have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television
sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  It's a shame 
that

you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not
much better than a little portable set!  Of course I think I know that the
idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go 
out
and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) 
would
be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then 
people
wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television back 
here

in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But the Sony
41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that
it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe
one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go to
the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only when 
the

television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and
amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
they

sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a
bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the
television sound quality.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the
Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the
Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart
device.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:

Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound 
bar


on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I purchased 
is


about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the size 
in



length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom
surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the television sound
quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, 
and


needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
remote



signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from my
tablet or iphone with it.

Hope this helps,
Mike
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
Subject: Soundbars


Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps 
someone



could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the 
smaller


19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top 
of



a soundbar, would be near perfect.

So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall
or what?







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane

RE: Sound bars

[Tom Kaufman]

I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd
say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just
isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't allow
for surround sound for whatever reason!  In this case, then the soundbar
would probably work fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sound bars

I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact
that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But
there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of
sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people
try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not
so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my
surround sound and speakers.  Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out
somewhere.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


> Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
> would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the 
> television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  
> It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that 
> audio sound like not much better than a little portable set!  Of 
> course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the 
> manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound 
> system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if 
> they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people 
> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television 
> back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But 
> the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't 
> really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the 
> TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for 
> it!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Thomas
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go 
> to the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only 
> when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the 
> sound bar and
> amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
> they sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help 
> quite a bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected 
> to the television sound quality.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
>
> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if 
> the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to 
> the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with 
> your smart device.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a 
>> sound bar
>
>> on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I 
>> purchased is
>
>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the 
>> size in
>
>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat 
>> bottom surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the 
>> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit 
>> behind the sound bar, and
>
>> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
>> remote
>
>> signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
>> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a 
>> blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from 
>> my tablet or iphone with it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
>> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Soundbars
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps 
>> someone
>
>> could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.
>>
>> I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the 
>> smaller
>
>> 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinki

Re: "Fumblin' Around" for the ACTUAL DOWNLOAD CONTROL for Dream Voice Reader

[Chris Skarstad]

Hi. If you follow the link from before, it should show a web page, with 
a link somewhere that says, I have iTunes.  Pressing enter on that link 
should bring up a dialogue box asking if it's ok to launch iTunes, with 
an allow button.  Press the allow button and iTunes will open.  After 
the page in iTunes loads, there will be a button to buy it, it'll say 
$4.99, press the space bar on that button, and wait a few seconds.
That button will then change to a button that says buy.  press your 
space bar once more and the app will download.

 Hope that helps!


On 5/10/2014 12:39 AM, David Plumlee wrote:

I read with interest the messages about the Dream Voice Reader, and I clicked on the link 
in one of this list's E-Mail messages which said that it would take me to the place to 
obtain the discounted version; but I could not find the actual button, link, control or 
whatever it is that would have initiated the actual download either to my ITunes on my 
Windows XP box or directly to the IPhone.  Granted, I have not downloaded very many aps 
or songs from the ITunes/Aps store; but I have downloaded a few.  So what I am seeking is 
a set of EXPLICIT, STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS to bring about the ACTUAL DOWNLOADING of 
probably both the free (light) and the discounted (full) version.  I read the description 
of the two aps, the languages that are available, and the notes; but I am now seeking 
instructions to bring about the two downloads WITH ABSOLUTE RELIABILITY.  I have a valid 
account, and I was signed into that account on my IPhone.  When I tried to use IPhone's 
Search function in the Ap Store, I got a whole bunch of results - none of which were the 
Dream Voice Reader.  If I read correctly, someone else on this list had trouble finding 
the two aps.  Hopefully there is an absolutely reliable way to get the aps on my phone 
without a whole lot of "fumblin'".


David Plumlee

Re: Sound bars

[pete gurney]

hello all,

i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound bar it
can be as good as a wired surround sound system.
i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system in
the dining room
they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar sounds every bit as good as
the wired system including you hearing everything around and behind you.
the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d.
admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i got it
when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for £500 roughly
$830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment.
it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which fire
off the sound in all different directions.
when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and place
it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away then tell it
to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door.
from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter of the
third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced off of every
surface in the room.
when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off their
sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the walls,
ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect.
when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft furnishing
and carpets in the room and takes this into account.
  it also has a mass of different connections which means you could
have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time.
i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater and
you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to get a
sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it.
i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have this
capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been at a much
more reasonable price.

pete.
 
   

Re: Sound bars

[Gary Schindler]

The sound bar would be great for me since I downsized, and can't change the 
furniture around and so on.

can't change the
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Sound bars



I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd
say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just
isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't 
allow

for surround sound for whatever reason!  In this case, then the soundbar
would probably work fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sound bars

I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact
that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. 
But

there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of
sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people
try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. 
Not

so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Wood

Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my
surround sound and speakers.  Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out
somewhere.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars



Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I
would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the
television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!
It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that
audio sound like not much better than a little portable set!  Of
course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the
manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound
system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if
they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people
wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television
back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But
the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't
really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the
TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for
it!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go
to the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only
when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the
sound bar and
amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television 
probably

could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure,
they sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help
quite a bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected
to the television sound quality.
- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if
the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to
the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with
your smart device.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  
wrote:



Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a
sound bar



on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I
purchased is



about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the
size in



length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat
bottom surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the
television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit
behind the sound bar, and



needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the
remote



signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from
my tablet or iphone with it.

Hope this helps,
Mike
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
Subject: Soundbars


Hi!

Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps
someone



could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.

I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so t

Re: Recording Made On Zoom H1 - Early Morning Coffee

[emma goodwin]

Beautiful sound quality. Absolutely amazing. The power of those mikes
are fantastic. Zoom really shines. Very well recorded. Thank you very
much for this.

On 5/10/14, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> This is cool man. I'm listening to it right now with Power DVD. I'm at the
> part where you are sturring the coffee.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:00 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Recording Made On Zoom H1 - Early Morning Coffee
>
> Hi!
>
> This is a recording I made last year, its a recording of me preparing Early
> Morning Coffee in my kitchen, very nice audio quality if I dare say so
> myself , the kettle masks some of the sounds but still not too bad.
>
> Note this recording is in FLAC format so bee sure your Media Player will
> handle it.
> 
> If link doesn't work the first time then try again in a few minutes, file
> may still be uploading to Dropbox.
>
> **
>
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Sound bars

[Tom Kaufman]

Hello Mike and list:  That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of
my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my
"stuff"...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record
something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living
room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that
it's completely terrible!  But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's
practical!  Mike, what brand is your sound bar?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

Hi Tom,  Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 
inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar.  They offer enough internal 
enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had.  Remember to 
get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for 
great stereo separation.  Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 
65 for the sound bar.  It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've 
never regretted the purchase.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


> Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
> would
> have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television
> sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  It's a shame 
> that
> you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not
> much better than a little portable set!  Of course I think I know that the
> idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go 
> out
> and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) 
> would
> be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then 
> people
> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television back 
> here
> in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But the Sony
> 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that
> it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe
> one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Thomas
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go to
> the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only when 
> the
> television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and
> amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
> they
> sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a
> bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the
> television sound quality.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
>
> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the
> Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the
> Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart
> device.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound 
>> bar
>
>> on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I purchased 
>> is
>
>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the size 
>> in
>
>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom
>> surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the television sound
>> quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, 
>> and
>
>> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
>> remote
>
>> signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
>> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
>> blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from my
>> tablet or iphone with it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
>> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Soundbars
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps 
>> someone
>
>> could give a description of what a soundbar looks like.
>>
>> I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the 
>> smaller
>
>> 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top 
>> of
>
>> a soundbar, would be near perfect.
>>
>> So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a w

Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave

[Clive Lever]

Hello all,

I have goldwave 5.58. My personal default setting has been to record only
from the line in to my PC, as I have been encoding loads of items from
cassette to MP3. How do I change the setting to record from the PC, so that
I can take the recording of an audio stream of a radio station on the
internet? Then, how do I change back again?

Thanks,
Clive



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: 10 May 2014 18:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sound bars

Hello Mike and list:  That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of
my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my
"stuff"...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record
something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living
room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that
it's completely terrible!  But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's
practical!  Mike, what brand is your sound bar?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

Hi Tom,  Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 
inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar.  They offer enough internal
enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had.  Remember to
get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for
great stereo separation.  Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $
65 for the sound bar.  It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've
never regretted the purchase.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


> Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
> would
> have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television
> sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  It's a shame 
> that
> you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not
> much better than a little portable set!  Of course I think I know that the
> idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go 
> out
> and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) 
> would
> be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then 
> people
> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television back 
> here
> in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But the Sony
> 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that
> it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe
> one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Thomas
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go to
> the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only when 
> the
> television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and
> amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
> they
> sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a
> bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the
> television sound quality.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
>
> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the
> Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the
> Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart
> device.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound 
>> bar
>
>> on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I purchased 
>> is
>
>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the size 
>> in
>
>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom
>> surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the television sound
>> quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, 
>> and
>
>> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
>> remote
>
>> signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
>> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
>> blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from my
>> tablet or iphone with it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowa

Re: Sound bars

[Mike Thomas]

The one I went with was on eBay.  Its called ILive, and was a company I 
never heard of before.  It has three equalizer presetts, bass and trebble 
controls mode  for the bluetooth volume and mute on the little credit card 
sized remote.  As I said, I'm by no means an audiophile, but for me it does 
the job.  I learned its available through walmart and you might check their 
website to see if the size you want is available in your store.  Also, if 
you don't like it, WallyWorld has a pretty good reputation at refundings.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


Hello Mike and list:  That might be just the thing I would need as a lot 
of

my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my
"stuff"...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record
something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the 
living

room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that
it's completely terrible!  But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's
practical!  Mike, what brand is your sound bar?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

Hi Tom,  Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40
inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar.  They offer enough internal
enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had.  Remember to
get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for
great stereo separation.  Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $
65 for the sound bar.  It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've
never regretted the purchase.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars



Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I
would
have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television
sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!  It's a shame
that
you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not
much better than a little portable set!  Of course I think I know that 
the

idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go
out
and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called)
would
be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then
people
wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television back
here
in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But the Sony
41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that
it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out 
there...maybe

one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Thomas
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go to
the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only when
the
television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and
amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television 
probably

could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure,
they
sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a
bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the
television sound quality.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the
Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the
Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your 
smart

device.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  
wrote:



Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound
bar



on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I purchased
is



about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the size
in



length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom
surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the television sound
quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar,
and



needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the
remote



signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a
blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from my
tablet or iphone with it.

Hope this helps,
Mike
- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"

To: "PC Audio

RE: Sound bars

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah, for small rooms and stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:00 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sound bars

I'd say (and granted I don't know as much about it as you all do) but I'd
say that the soundbar would work in situations where surround sound just
isn't really practical; let's say maybe the room somehow just doesn't allow
for surround sound for whatever reason!  In this case, then the soundbar
would probably work fine!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 8:08 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sound bars

I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact
that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But
there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of
sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people
try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not
so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sound bars

But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my
surround sound and speakers.  Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out
somewhere.
- Original Message -
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Sound bars


> Hello Mike and list:  Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I 
> would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the 
> television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned!
> It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that 
> audio sound like not much better than a little portable set!  Of 
> course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the 
> manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound 
> system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if 
> they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people 
> wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment!  I have my television 
> back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo.  But 
> the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't 
> really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the 
> TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for 
> it!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mike Thomas
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
> The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day.  I don't go 
> to the trouble of turning it on and off.  It makes no noise, and only 
> when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the 
> sound bar and
> amplified.   Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably
> could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, 
> they sound very tinny and cheap.  The sound bar, even cheap ones help 
> quite a bit.  I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected 
> to the television sound quality.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Soundbars
>
>
> I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if 
> the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to 
> the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with 
> your smart device.
>
>
> On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas  wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a 
>> sound bar
>
>> on top of a flat screen television.  Not quite so.  The one I 
>> purchased is
>
>> about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder.  Meaning it is the 
>> size in
>
>> length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat 
>> bottom surface.  What happened with mine is it improved the 
>> television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit 
>> behind the sound bar, and
>
>> needed to be raised just a little so the television could "see" the 
>> remote
>
>> signal.  I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off.
>> It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode.  I do have a 
>> blueTooth model, so I can put it  that mode and play something from 
>> my tablet or iphone with it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mike
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan"
>> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM
>> Subject: Soundbars
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have one of these? I've not s

Re: Soundbars

[Howard Traxler]

How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device.  My TV (a 
probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video.  It has no 
outputs at all.  All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 
24 inches apart.  I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 
years ago to catch girls.  It has no connections, in or out.
Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Soundbars


Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the
things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's
cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more
detail. I played Tik Tok on it.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well
as watching TV.  I also think that music sounds great on it.
- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars
are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my
situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound
system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I
can use with my Television.

Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the
experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box
etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on.

It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television
these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in
those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of
string.

There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being
that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick
as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of
physics.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage  wrote:

> Hi Tom.  It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for.  If 
> a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I 
> guess it is worthit.  each person must decide what they can afford and 
> act accordingly.
> If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then 
> feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality.
> I
> think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a 
> particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to 
> music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option.  If though it 
> is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment.  
> If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to 
> audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer.  There are 
> soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match 
> the price.  Walter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Soundbars
>
> Oh my goodness!  While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the 
> price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to 
> improve the sound for the television in the living room!  I've heard 
> of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one!  Is there 
> one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as 
> this one you have described?
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Walter Ramage
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Soundbars
>
> Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This 
> Soundbar is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is 
> remarkable.  When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment 
> or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you 
> know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds 
> off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system.  
> The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it.  
> It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound.  
> The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in 
> front of the TV.  This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality 
> due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position.  The 
> Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for.  It 
> isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep.  The 

Re: Soundbars

[Mike Thomas]

Hi Howard,  Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did 
not require something like a sound bar.  The newer flat screen models are 
the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and 
output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI 
cable and making the connection.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Traxler" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device.  My TV (a 
probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video.  It has 
no outputs at all.  All you get is the little internal speakers that are 
(maybe) 24 inches apart.  I also have another set (off brand) that I bought 
about 14 years ago to catch girls.  It has no connections, in or out.

Howard
- Original Message - 
From: "Hamit Campos" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Soundbars


Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the
things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's
cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more
detail. I played Tik Tok on it.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Soundbars

With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well
as watching TV.  I also think that music sounds great on it.
- Original Message -
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: Soundbars


I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars
are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my
situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound
system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I
can use with my Television.

Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the
experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box
etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on.

It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television
these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in
those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of
string.

There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being
that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick
as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of
physics.


On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage  wrote:


Hi Tom.  It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for.  If
a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I
guess it is worthit.  each person must decide what they can afford and
act accordingly.
If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then
feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality.
I
think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a
particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to
music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option.  If though it
is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment.
If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to
audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer.  There are
soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match
the price.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Soundbars

Oh my goodness!  While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the
price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to
improve the sound for the television in the living room!  I've heard
of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one!  Is there
one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as
this one you have described?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Walter Ramage
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Soundbars

Hi Dane.  I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1.  This
Soundbar is extraordinary.  The technology it contains inside is
remarkable.  When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment
or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you
know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds
off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system.
The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it.
It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really