Re: Another sound card question
yes, that is it. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Another sound card question Well I've been sort of following this thread with interest as I think that the Audigy 2 sound card I have is made by Creative labs (not completely sure of this)..but I can change my tone control by going into the system tray, then to "volume"..then to '"advanced"..apparently this is where you're getting stuck? Interesting; it's as you're saying: seems like some computers have the "advanced" settings; some don't! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Another sound card question
I have another program with a sigmatel audio card and the advance works on it. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Another sound card question Well I've been sort of following this thread with interest as I think that the Audigy 2 sound card I have is made by Creative labs (not completely sure of this)..but I can change my tone control by going into the system tray, then to "volume"..then to '"advanced"..apparently this is where you're getting stuck? Interesting; it's as you're saying: seems like some computers have the "advanced" settings; some don't! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Sound Card Scripting
Hi Dave: That is very very good info. In Windoweyes we can map keys either inside virtual windows or inside a script using something like VBScript. It might be possible to script the software provided by a card manufacturer and the only way to know for sure would be to get one of them, then do the analysis on the DOM model to determine if it could be scripted. In that case I am out of the loop unless someone on list wants to buy or lend me a card and software since I just use my on board card. My guess would be that the card manufactures do not comply with MSAA standards nor make any effort to make their DOM accessible to screen reader software hooks. That said, there are usually work-arounds. It also depends on each individual card although the DOM may be very similar between models within a given company. Programming types do not like to ReInvent the wheel so they usually will build on existing models making various models using similar DOMs easy to script once one has been scripted. Anyway, it is just a thought at this point. It might be possible to make one or more cards quite accessible under Windoweyes and I would guess under JAWS as well but would require having a popular sound card, software and then allot of work to analyze the DOM and create the actual script. If there is ever an opportunity for me to install another sound card I will examine the DOM and see what I can do but I am broke and sure can't afford having one installed just now. Thanks for the info and good luck if you are having any problems. My on board card chip seems to work well enough and I don't have tone controls but use the ones on my speakers when necessary. I do have the Sterio Mix set up and working and can set all the volume levels for the various inputs and outputs. Thanks again: Rick USA - Original Message - From: "David Reynolds" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Sound Card Scripting Rick, I would guess that in the case of cards with proprietary drivers, you'd need to script the card software itself. In the case of Creative, this is imperative, since a great deal of the functionality is only available via creative software. The MSAA route is a bit of a non-starter here, and I guess you'd probably benefit by using something like hot spot clicker, because many of the buttons and sliders are graphic. Essentially, you'd need to map various keys to hsc, that would be a good start. With hsc, you can not only map keys, but also get jaws to announce what you want. Whether the same thing is available under WE, I don't know. If it isn't, I'd guess you need to set up a series of small virtual windows, and map keys to click on them. Hope this helps, David. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of RicksPlace Sent: 13 December 2009 10:29 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Sound Card Scripting Hi All: I am an old programmer type. Since there is so much trouble with Sound Cards I am wondering if anyone has tried scripting for a sound card. First, the card software or the Operating System needs to make some scriptable information available and it is usually called MSAA for Microsoft Active Accessiblity. This is one of the scriptable data points that Windoweyes uses, I am not sure about JAWS. So, my question is actually, do you script for the individual sound card or do you script the Operating System when you want to set options? Rick USA To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4683 (20091213) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4683 (20091213) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
PAL format
A friend in France wants to send a friend in the U.S., namely me, DVDs produced in a format called PAL. Over there, it is claimed that PAL is universal, and that it specifically covers Region 1. However, a local Apple store says that Mac computers can't play it. My Google searches have led to confusing results on the question of whether a stand-alone DVD player or a PC can handle the format. Does anyone on this list happen to know if any devices in the U.S. can handle PAL? We contributed research to this documentary series and would love to find out what came out of it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Sound Card Scripting
Rick, I think your guesses are accurate. As a programming type myself, I think scripting for individual sound cards would be definitely worthwhile, but as you've already said, this would involve some expenditure on something which you or I may not want to use again. It isn't like software where you can download a trial version and script it. Any further issues, let me know, and I'll help if I can. David. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of RicksPlace Sent: 14 December 2009 09:49 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound Card Scripting Hi Dave: That is very very good info. In Windoweyes we can map keys either inside virtual windows or inside a script using something like VBScript. It might be possible to script the software provided by a card manufacturer and the only way to know for sure would be to get one of them, then do the analysis on the DOM model to determine if it could be scripted. In that case I am out of the loop unless someone on list wants to buy or lend me a card and software since I just use my on board card. My guess would be that the card manufactures do not comply with MSAA standards nor make any effort to make their DOM accessible to screen reader software hooks. That said, there are usually work-arounds. It also depends on each individual card although the DOM may be very similar between models within a given company. Programming types do not like to ReInvent the wheel so they usually will build on existing models making various models using similar DOMs easy to script once one has been scripted. Anyway, it is just a thought at this point. It might be possible to make one or more cards quite accessible under Windoweyes and I would guess under JAWS as well but would require having a popular sound card, software and then allot of work to analyze the DOM and create the actual script. If there is ever an opportunity for me to install another sound card I will examine the DOM and see what I can do but I am broke and sure can't afford having one installed just now. Thanks for the info and good luck if you are having any problems. My on board card chip seems to work well enough and I don't have tone controls but use the ones on my speakers when necessary. I do have the Sterio Mix set up and working and can set all the volume levels for the various inputs and outputs. Thanks again: Rick USA - Original Message - From: "David Reynolds" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: RE: Sound Card Scripting > Rick, > > I would guess that in the case of cards with proprietary drivers, you'd > need > to script the card software itself. In the case of Creative, this is > imperative, since a great deal of the functionality is only available via > creative software. The MSAA route is a bit of a non-starter here, and I > guess you'd probably benefit by using something like hot spot clicker, > because many of the buttons and sliders are graphic. Essentially, you'd > need > to map various keys to hsc, that would be a good start. With hsc, you can > not only map keys, but also get jaws to announce what you want. Whether > the > same thing is available under WE, I don't know. If it isn't, I'd guess you > need to set up a series of small virtual windows, and map keys to click on > them. > Hope this helps, > > David. > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of RicksPlace > Sent: 13 December 2009 10:29 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Sound Card Scripting > > Hi All: I am an old programmer type. Since there is so much trouble with > Sound Cards I am wondering if anyone has tried scripting for a sound card. > First, the card software or the Operating System needs to make some > scriptable information available and it is usually called MSAA for > Microsoft > Active Accessiblity. This is one of the scriptable data points that > Windoweyes uses, I am not sure about JAWS. So, my question is actually, do > you script for the individual sound card or do you script the Operating > System when you want to set options? > Rick USA > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4683 (20091213) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 4683 (20091213) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signa
Re: PAL format
Your friend is right when he says that the dvd will play in region 1 players. That is not really the problem. Your problem lies in the fact that your televsiion system is NTSC which is a lower definition format than PAL. That is to say, NTSC has a fewer lines per screen than PAL. However, you have 3 alternatives. If you want to play the dvd on a computer, you can get a program which will convert PAL to NTSC. You may also be abel to use a ripping program to convert the prograam to A V I format and watch it in windows media player. If you want to play it on a DVD player, firstly check your TV to see if it will accept PAL signals. This is unlikely but some of the higher end models do and adjust automatically. If not then consider buying a small hardware device which will do the conversion for you. The last time I looked, you could get one for about $100. Thirdly, depending on where you live, you may find a local company which will copy the DVD and convert it to NTSC for you. This would involve a small fee but it may prove the cheapest alternative. Bob Nelson - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: PAL format A friend in France wants to send a friend in the U.S., namely me, DVDs produced in a format called PAL. Over there, it is claimed that PAL is universal, and that it specifically covers Region 1. However, a local Apple store says that Mac computers can't play it. My Google searches have led to confusing results on the question of whether a stand-alone DVD player or a PC can handle the format. Does anyone on this list happen to know if any devices in the U.S. can handle PAL? We contributed research to this documentary series and would love to find out what came out of it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Skype phones.
I also would like to know how accessible the skype phones are as well with computers? Thinking about making a switch to either skype phone or magic jack. Reese http://www.shilohstravel.com reservati...@shilohstravel.com 1-888-831-3180 Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST #1018299-10 - Original Message - Hi Folks: Any recommendations as to what I should purchase for a high quality Skype/Standard duel mode cordless phone? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Skype phones.
Try the skype. I'm a former magicjack customer. I left them because I had so much problem with quality of calls and lost connection. Plus, the only customer service you have is on-line chat. - Original Message - From: "Reese" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Re: Skype phones. I also would like to know how accessible the skype phones are as well with computers? Thinking about making a switch to either skype phone or magic jack. Reese http://www.shilohstravel.com reservati...@shilohstravel.com 1-888-831-3180 Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST #1018299-10 - Original Message - Hi Folks: Any recommendations as to what I should purchase for a high quality Skype/Standard duel mode cordless phone? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Skype phones.
I have never use A skype phone, but I do know that the magic jack do not work very well with cordless phones. - Original Message - From: "Reese" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Skype phones. I also would like to know how accessible the skype phones are as well with computers? Thinking about making a switch to either skype phone or magic jack. Reese http://www.shilohstravel.com reservati...@shilohstravel.com 1-888-831-3180 Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel CST #1018299-10 - Original Message - Hi Folks: Any recommendations as to what I should purchase for a high quality Skype/Standard duel mode cordless phone? Any help would be appreciated all over the place. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: PAL format
On the PC side you can do the following but not sure with the MAC. Locate the .vob files on the DVD disc. Copy these .vob files to your hard drive. Then rename these .vob files to .mpg - These files playback on Windows Media Player 11. If you own Replay AV 8.53 and above you can use the included Replay Converter 3+ which can be used to convert PAL format DVDs discs to NTSC DVD disc format. I know it works because I converted 2 PAL DVDs discs from Greece awhile back but have forgotten how to do this now. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: PAL format
Hi, I have some Startrek videos that don't play well in my computer. I purchased them from Dealsworld and they came from China. Perhaps they are in the Pal format? What program would convert PAL to NTSC or to A V I? I am a novace at this, so please tell me as much as you can. If you think it best, you could send it directly to me at: vrvaug...@mailzone.com Many thanks for any help! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Robert Nelson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: Re: PAL format Your friend is right when he says that the dvd will play in region 1 players. That is not really the problem. Your problem lies in the fact that your televsiion system is NTSC which is a lower definition format than PAL. That is to say, NTSC has a fewer lines per screen than PAL. However, you have 3 alternatives. If you want to play the dvd on a computer, you can get a program which will convert PAL to NTSC. You may also be abel to use a ripping program to convert the prograam to A V I format and watch it in windows media player. If you want to play it on a DVD player, firstly check your TV to see if it will accept PAL signals. This is unlikely but some of the higher end models do and adjust automatically. If not then consider buying a small hardware device which will do the conversion for you. The last time I looked, you could get one for about $100. Thirdly, depending on where you live, you may find a local company which will copy the DVD and convert it to NTSC for you. This would involve a small fee but it may prove the cheapest alternative. Bob Nelson - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: PAL format A friend in France wants to send a friend in the U.S., namely me, DVDs produced in a format called PAL. Over there, it is claimed that PAL is universal, and that it specifically covers Region 1. However, a local Apple store says that Mac computers can't play it. My Google searches have led to confusing results on the question of whether a stand-alone DVD player or a PC can handle the format. Does anyone on this list happen to know if any devices in the U.S. can handle PAL? We contributed research to this documentary series and would love to find out what came out of it. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Acid like softwareRE: PAL format
Hello all, I am a theatrical sound designer, and I am working on a project. Is there a accessible counterpart to sony acid that I can use to compose to sony acid for loops and such? I the think the answer is sonar but I am not sure, please correct me if there is something else out there, or if in-fact acid is acid is accessible. I use window-eyes. Thanks for any help. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
setting time on Olympus dm-520 and other findings
Some findings about the Olympus dm-520: A great discovery for me is that we can set the time on the dm-520 using the included Olympus Sonority software. Very nice since the unit doesn't talk when setting the clock: synchronize date/time from the device menu. Can also be done automatically each time the unit is connected from the tools, options, device tab. Speaking of options, this dialog is a bit hard to use with Jaws. It is necessary to use the Jaws cursor because the tab key only takes one to the first control on each tab page. They aren't actually tabs but the pages are selected from a tree instead. A strange thing about the file listings in the recorder folder is each one has the number 7 in front of the name so I hear 7 graphic 228 filename each time I arrow up and down. I wonder what that "7" is. I also wonder what the graphic stands for. I'm just learning to use the Sonority software. I'm glad I registered the unit as I got 10% off purchase of accessories. So I went for the wireless remote control. I didn't go for the extra batteries as I have my own rechargeables. Speaking of registering: The Sonority software serial number is on a peace of paper that has a strip of tape along one end. I was able to scan that. But, I did have to get sighted help to read the hardware serial number. Oops! I pressed new from the file menu. That brought up the "found new hardware wizard". I cancelled that as the drivers were already installed. But, I just heard "system settings changed". What now? Better save this and see what happened. I think I refreshed the device so Windows reinstalled the drivers. Oh well. Didn't loose any files. Bob To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Keychain Speaker
I like the keychain speaker from www.thinkgeek.com Choose keychain speaker amp, and not the earbud one. The keychain speaker amp is ten dollars, but you'll no doubt find other things from Think Geek that you'll want. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Instructions for Setting time/date and the Timers on Olympus DS and DM series machines
The following information is taken - and updated by me - from a FAQ on the Olympus DS-50 found on their web site at http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/cpg_support_faqs.asp?id=1278#30 ***How can the blind and visually impaired set the time and date? The recorders' built-in audio cues can be used to enter the Time & Date settings. These same cues can be used to set Timer Recording and Alarm functions as well. Using the Keypad When executing a menu function that requires time and date setting, use the buttons on the recorder's four-way keypad to enter the settings. The settings are hour, minute, month, day, and year. Press the PLUS (UP) and MINUS (DOWN) buttons, respectively to increase and decrease the values. Press the REWIND (LEFT) and FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) buttons to move between variables. Press the OK/MENU button to complete the set-up and start the clock. Depending on the year of release for the machine, Each time and date variable has a baseline value, from which it is possible to calculate the number of times the PLUS (UP) or MINUS (DOWN) buttons must pressed to reach a particular value. On the DS-50, The baseline settings for hour, minutes, month, day, and year are respectively 12 AM, 00, 1M, 1D, and 2007Y. On the DM-520, the settings work the same, however the default year is 2009 rather than 2007, because the DM-520 wasn't released until 2009. I haven't properly explored, but I imagine the DS-71 will default to 2009 as well. The values appear on the recorder screen as shown below: When setting time and date variables the recorder emits distinct audio cues to determine that the variables are being changed. Pressing the PLUS (UP) button causes the recorder to emit a high-pitched beep. Pressing the MINUS (DOWN) button elicits a low-pitched beep. When a baseline value is reached from either direction, the audio cue becomes a chirp. The DS-50 (and others) digital voice recorder has a Voice Guide that speaks the menu items. However, it cannot speak the time and date or file names. When the DS-50 recorder is turned on for the first time , the Voice Guide function is enabled. If the Voice Guide is disabled, use the following steps to enable it: 1.Turn the recorder on by sliding the POWER/HOLD button downward. 2.Launch the menu by holding down the OK/MENU button in the center of the four-way keypad for 1 second. 3.Press the MINUS (DOWN) button 13 times to arrive at the Voice Guide setting in the menu. 4.Press the FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) button on the keypad twice. 5.Press the OK/MENU button in the center of the keypad once to enable the Voice Guide. 6.Press the REWIND (LEFT) button on the keypad once to return to the menu. Note that Details for activating the voice guidance on other machines, will differ. ***Setting the Time and Date 1.on the DS-50, If the Voice Guide has just been enabled and returned to the menu, press the MINUS (DOWN) button 7 times to arrive at the Time & Date setting. The Voice Guide will speak, "Time and Date Setting." 2.If the menu on the DS-50 has been newly opened, press the PLUS (UP) button four times to arrive at the Time & Date setting. [If you are using a different model, such as the DM-520 or DS-71, get to the time and date settings, and follow the below steps.] 3.Press the FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) button to open the Time & Date menu. The first variable to set is the hour. Press the PLUS (UP) button or MINUS (DOWN) button until the recorder chirps instead of beeps. The chirp means the hour variable has been set to 12 AM. 4.Press the PLUS (UP) button the number of times necessary to arrive at the correct hour value. Remember: The baseline value for hour is 12 AM. Therefore the first 11 button presses represent AM values. It may be quicker to press the MINUS (DOWN) button and count backward from 12 AM if the correct time is a PM value. 5.Press the FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) button to move to the minute variable. Press the PLUS (UP) or MINUS (DOWN) button until the recorder chirps instead of beeps. The chirp means the minute variable has been set to the baseline value of 00. 6.Press the PLUS (UP) button the number of times necessary to arrive at the correct minute value. If it would be quicker to count backward to the minute value, the MINUS (DOWN) button can be used to arrive at the correct minute value. 7.Press the FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) button to move to the month variable. Press the PLUS (UP) or MINUS (DOWN) button until the recorder chirps instead of beeps.The chirp means the month variable has been set to its baseline value of 1M, representing January. 8.Press the PLUS (UP) button the number of times necessary to arrive at the correct month value. If it would be quicker to count backward to the month value, the MINUS (DOWN) button can be used to arrive at the correct month value. 9.Press the FAST FORWARD (RIGHT) button to move to the day variable.Press the PLUS (UP) or MINUS (DOWN) button until the recorder chirps instead of beeps.The chirp me
