Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread Steve S

Check out www.hotspotclicker.org
It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote the 
sound forge scripts,  that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out for 
you.  Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems.  I've 
just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot spot 
clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with.  It's an amazing piece of 
kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring accessibility to 
inaccessible apps, cheers Steve.
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to 
find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is our
money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the  parts 
of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.

Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I expressed 
my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
are

thinking about buying Creative Labs.

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Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Steeve,
That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it.
I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card 
in it.
It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks 
mite help me to make this new computer do things my way.
I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at 
it until I do.

My best regards.
John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Check out www.hotspotclicker.org
It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote 
the sound forge scripts,  that could possibly sort the inaccessibility out 
for you.  Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it seems. 
I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 3with hot 
spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with.  It's an amazing 
piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring 
accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve.
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough 
to find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is 
our

money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the 
parts of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster 
and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.
Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an 
email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I expressed 
my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
are

thinking about buying Creative Labs.

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Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread Brian Olesen

HI,
YOU CAN CREATE A NEW USER THEN THINGS MIGHT WORK.

Brian
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High Steeve,
That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it.
I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card 
in it.
It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks 
mite help me to make this new computer do things my way.
I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at 
it until I do.

My best regards.
John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Check out www.hotspotclicker.org
It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote 
the sound forge scripts,  that could possibly sort the inaccessibility 
out for you.  Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it 
seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 
3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with.  It's an 
amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring 
accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve.
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough 
to find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is 
our

money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the 
parts of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster 
and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.
Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an 
email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I 
expressed my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not de

Sansa fuse and the Sansa e280 V2

2009-12-04 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

As far as Rockbox is concerned, what are the differences between the Sansa Fuse 
and the Sansa E280?  Is one better than the other?

Thanks.
" He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose. " 
Jim Elliot, 
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RE: Sansa fuse and the Sansa e280 V2

2009-12-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Not sure what you're asking. The Sansa e200 series V1 models will be
completely functional with Rockbox. The Fuse and e200 series V2 models are
covered in the unstable ports. When looking at
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS, which I got to from the Rockbox web
site and looking on the status for each port, it looks like the V1 model of
the Fuse is pretty complete. It sounds like the only thing missing is the
USB stack.

I'd suggest checking out these pages and referring to the Buyer's Guide to
see how functional the port is and what features each player has. There's
also a Rockbox mailing list where you could ask these questions.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com

 


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On Behalf Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:56 PM
To: Rockbox
Cc: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Sansa fuse and the Sansa e280 V2

Hi Folks:

As far as Rockbox is concerned, what are the differences between the Sansa
Fuse and the Sansa E280?  Is one better than the other?

Thanks.
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continuing saga of creative labs soundcard

2009-12-04 Thread Joe
Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with your 
stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with Jaws. 
You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have the card. 
First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you can run it if 
your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative audio update 
should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not you can do it 
manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, the problem may 
be the setting that says something like read text on screen. I can't remember 
where that setting is but its in there and before I checked it, I had the same 
problems you did. After I checked it, everything read perfectly. I'll continue 
to look for it and tell you where it is if I find it. This really is a quality 
card. Take care, Joe.
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Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread Victoria Vaughan
Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours?  If  not, how did 
you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer to 
learn Jaws script and write it for you?


That's  something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my 
finances


.  Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources!

Vicky- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough to 
find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is our
money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the  parts 
of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.

Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I expressed 
my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
are

thinking about buying Creative Labs.

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Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread Victoria Vaughan
Hoi, Would  you tell us what your new audio PC has in hardware and software, 
that might be different from the average computer?


Many thanks! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High Steeve,
That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it.
I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound card 
in it.
It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks 
mite help me to make this new computer do things my way.
I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep at 
it until I do.

My best regards.
John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve S" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Check out www.hotspotclicker.org
It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote 
the sound forge scripts,  that could possibly sort the inaccessibility 
out for you.  Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it 
seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 
3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with.  It's an 
amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can bring 
accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve.
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough 
to find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is 
our

money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the 
parts of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster 
and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.
Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an 
email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I 
expressed my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
produc

Re: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard

2009-12-04 Thread Sunshine
Joe,  the card i have is the x-fi extream audio.
would this setting you are talking about be in the same place? i use jaws 
and window eyes.
please let us know where to find this option  thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Joe" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: continuing saga of creative labs soundcard


Hi Dave. I may be able to help you with the problem your having with 
your stream music x-fi card. I too have this card and all settings read with 
Jaws. You have been getting good advice on this group from those who have 
the card. First, if you installed creative audio update from the disk, you 
can run it if your on line and get the latest drivers for the card. Creative 
audio update should select the correct ones for you if you run it. If not 
you can do it manually. If you are sure you already have the proper drivers, 
the problem may be the setting that says something like read text on screen. 
I can't remember where that setting is but its in there and before I checked 
it, I had the same problems you did. After I checked it, everything read 
perfectly. I'll continue to look for it and tell you where it is if I find 
it. This really is a quality card. Take care, Joe.
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NVDA and internet broadcasting

2009-12-04 Thread Chris Swank
I'm interested in learning how to broadcast on the internet. I know of a number 
of different plug-ins I could use with Winamp,  but I'm using NVDA as my 
primary screen reader and I wonder if anyone's found out which plug-in for 
broadcasting might work the best with that screen reader. I know of Shoutcast, 
Sam, and I've heard of Edcast and Odcast. The only one I've really looked at 
with NVDA is the free Shoutcast plug-in and it seems most parts of it are 
doable, but stuff like the part where you title your stream and such and the 
level controls don't seem accessible. Anybody have any experience broadcasting 
and using NVDA? Thanks.

Chris
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Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting

2009-12-04 Thread Sunshine
edcast works with nvda and i use it all the time.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Swank" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:28 AM
Subject: NVDA and internet broadcasting


I'm interested in learning how to broadcast on the internet. I know of a 
number of different plug-ins I could use with Winamp,  but I'm using NVDA as 
my primary screen reader and I wonder if anyone's found out which plug-in 
for broadcasting might work the best with that screen reader. I know of 
Shoutcast, Sam, and I've heard of Edcast and Odcast. The only one I've 
really looked at with NVDA is the free Shoutcast plug-in and it seems most 
parts of it are doable, but stuff like the part where you title your stream 
and such and the level controls don't seem accessible. Anybody have any 
experience broadcasting and using NVDA? Thanks.

Chris
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Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting

2009-12-04 Thread Chris Swank
Wonderful! Is this the winamp plug-in?
Chris

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunshine" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting


edcast works with nvda and i use it all the time.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Swank" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:28 AM
Subject: NVDA and internet broadcasting


I'm interested in learning how to broadcast on the internet. I know of a
number of different plug-ins I could use with Winamp,  but I'm using NVDA as
my primary screen reader and I wonder if anyone's found out which plug-in
for broadcasting might work the best with that screen reader. I know of
Shoutcast, Sam, and I've heard of Edcast and Odcast. The only one I've
really looked at with NVDA is the free Shoutcast plug-in and it seems most
parts of it are doable, but stuff like the part where you title your stream
and such and the level controls don't seem accessible. Anybody have any
experience broadcasting and using NVDA? Thanks.

Chris
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Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting

2009-12-04 Thread Sunshine
yes

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Swank" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting


Wonderful! Is this the winamp plug-in?
Chris

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunshine" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: NVDA and internet broadcasting


edcast works with nvda and i use it all the time.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Swank" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:28 AM
Subject: NVDA and internet broadcasting


I'm interested in learning how to broadcast on the internet. I know of a
number of different plug-ins I could use with Winamp,  but I'm using NVDA as
my primary screen reader and I wonder if anyone's found out which plug-in
for broadcasting might work the best with that screen reader. I know of
Shoutcast, Sam, and I've heard of Edcast and Odcast. The only one I've
really looked at with NVDA is the free Shoutcast plug-in and it seems most
parts of it are doable, but stuff like the part where you title your stream
and such and the level controls don't seem accessible. Anybody have any
experience broadcasting and using NVDA? Thanks.

Chris
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Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

2009-12-04 Thread DJ DOCTOR P

High Vicky,
No, he was one of my instructors at the MTTL building in Daytona Beach which 
is where I learned about Windows in their early years.

The cost to me, was free of charge.
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Victoria Vaughan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Hi, Was this Florida person, a personal friend of yours?  If  not, how did 
you find him and wouldn't it cost quite a bit to get a regular programmer 
to learn Jaws script and write it for you?


That's  something quite out of my computer person's knowledge and my 
finances


.  Please everyone, share your solutions, work arounds or known resources!

Vicky- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab sound 
cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use their 
products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough 
to find work arounds for us to use.

Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.



Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

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On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is 
our

money somehow less good than anybody elses?

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On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and

get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending


on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the 
parts of


the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster 
and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.
Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an 
email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I

googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,

but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I expressed 
my

concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
are

thinking about buying Creative Labs.

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