Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter
This is a rather annoying bug in the current version of the program which I have been told is slated to be fixed. Very frustrating. Bruce -- An accessible captcha solution that does not take into account the needs of the deaf-blind is no acceptable solution at all. Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. > > Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the > converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, > but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am having > trouble figuring out how one does that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessibility Evangelism and UnfortunateNewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
Whether many blind folks currently use the AOL player isn't relevant to issues of accessibility. When I worked to promote wheel chair accessible sites I'd often hear from the owner of a building that he couldn't understand the big deal since he had no crippled patrons anyway. Of course he didn't, it wasn't accessible. Mike, that seems to be what you and others are saying with regard to the AOL player. Build it and they will come. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:18 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and UnfortunateNewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio Chris I agree with you entirely. What blind people have to keep in mind that even sighted folks can have problems in using certain pieces of software. Just because someone can see doesn't mean that every peice of software will necessarily work on everyone's pc. Some software is just out of the realm of certain folks for whatever reason. Also, even if a piece of software passed every accessability test (whatever that is supposed to mean) doesn't mean that every blind person will use it without a hitch. Some folks have marginal pc skills so, unless they got handholding at every step, this still might lock them out. As with sighted users, just some audio programs won't work for certain folks. Personally, I could care less about all this as I have never used the AOL player. And I truly wonder how many blind users an AOL player has anyway. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism andUnfortunateNewsFromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
Hi Is this CBS player different from the radio player 4.0 which AOL claims is in beta? Marsha Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online(AOL) Radio
Hello fellow list members, I am writing this post to you, because this is something that I thought you'd like to know. I have quite a fiew of AOL-XM satellite radio stations bookmarked in Winamp. I know the cut off date is suppose to be today, but all of the radio stations still play for me in Winamp. So at this point, I am wondering if the CBS player will have any affect on these AOL-XM streams at all? My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online(AOL) Radio > Hello Everyone, > > As an accessibility evangelist, of course, I disagree with any and all > those > who frequently make statements emphasizing our "smallness" and > insignificance in the world at large as a means to justify doing little or > nothing about accessibility challenges. Yes. We are very tiny in number > in > comparison with the rest of the population who is not blind, but that > really > has nothing to do with how well we can make our voices heard in order to > achieve positive changes for the better. One possible metaphore might be > to > compare us with those who profess their faith in the Jewish religion here > in > the United States, which is an incredibly small minority in number as > compared with catholics and evangelical Christians. Despite their small > numbers, the Jewish seem to experience little or no difficulty making > their > needs known and they tend to enjoy great success and wealth in all walks > of > life. > > I'd like to see something similar happen for those of us who are blind. > We > can't look to others to make this happen, but only to ourselves. It must > start with us! We must decide that we are valuable human beings deserving > of our human rights, of the accessibility and equal treatment with our > sighted peers we must enjoy in order to be able to fully participate in > society on a par with the sighted. Though it starts with us, a > technological world dictates that we have equal access to information in > the > information and knowledge age. Accessibility must ultimately be available > if we are to actively and productively participate in such critical areas > of > life as education, employment and leisure. > > We must achieve equality of opportunity through making our own > accessibility > solutions where practical and advocating for reasonable accomodations when > accessibility is required in order for us to participate. The issues boil > down to one of these two needs in all cases. There is no third option of > taking the path of least resistance; not if we want to count ourselves as > fully living and breathing human beings and citizens, possessing the same > inalienable rights and responsibilities already enjoyed by the sighted. > > One excellent example of a project where we are making our own > accessibility > is Benetech's Bookshare project available at http://www.bookshare.org. > Blind people and others with print reading disabilities subscribe to a web > based service where they may download and read from a selection of tens of > thousands of books available in an accessible, electronic format for use > on > their computers and portable assistive technology. This is all made > possible by a team of blind and sighted volunteers who scan books into > electronic format and validators who correct scanning errors and reformat > the books for final entry into the collection. > > Another example of making our own accessibility is the existence of the > blindness access technology industry. We spend tens of thousands of > dollars > on screen readers, Braille displays, scanners with optical character > recognition software, specialized personal digital assistants (PDAs) and a > myriad of other high and low technology items on which we have grown to > depend in order to adapt ourselves to the world. In many cases, > government > agencies purchase some or all of this technology under specific > circumstances, but this is, by no means, guaranteed. > > Despite our own efforts, there often remains a wide gap between that which > we are able to make accessible on our own and that technology which we > must > use in the classroom, on the job, etc. When we are not able to close > these > gaps through our own efforts and assistive technology, reasonable > accomodations on the part of the developer of that technology are required > if we are to be permitted full and equal participation. Failures to > reasonably accomodate our needs often result in the curtailment of > educational opportunities and even the needless loss of jobs! > > As a blind community, we can take actions such as the following to improve > our accessibility to the world of technology around us: > *
Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter
Jonathon if you are using jaws turn your graphic to all under insert v use your jaws cursor to find the graphics # on the same line as the drive letter and name it browse. This is that missing element. You will need the jaws cursor to still find it but at least now it will be named. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:02 AM Subject: Easy CDDA Audio Converter > Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. > > Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the > converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, > but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am > having > trouble figuring out how one does that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 3168 (20080609) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
It's not the stations that cause the problem it's accessing them with the player. I guess if you've book marked them in Winamp you've solved the problem. This may work for others. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio Hello fellow list members, I am writing this post to you, because this is something that I thought you'd like to know. I have quite a fiew of AOL-XM satellite radio stations bookmarked in Winamp. I know the cut off date is suppose to be today, but all of the radio stations still play for me in Winamp. So at this point, I am wondering if the CBS player will have any affect on these AOL-XM streams at all? My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:20 PM Subject: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online(AOL) Radio > Hello Everyone, > > As an accessibility evangelist, of course, I disagree with any and all > those who frequently make statements emphasizing our "smallness" and > insignificance in the world at large as a means to justify doing > little or nothing about accessibility challenges. Yes. We are very > tiny in number in comparison with the rest of the population who is > not blind, but that really has nothing to do with how well we can make > our voices heard in order to achieve positive changes for the better. > One possible metaphore might be to compare us with those who profess > their faith in the Jewish religion here in the United States, which is > an incredibly small minority in number as compared with catholics and > evangelical Christians. Despite their small numbers, the Jewish seem > to experience little or no difficulty making their needs known and > they tend to enjoy great success and wealth in all walks of life. > > I'd like to see something similar happen for those of us who are blind. > We > can't look to others to make this happen, but only to ourselves. It > must start with us! We must decide that we are valuable human beings > deserving of our human rights, of the accessibility and equal > treatment with our sighted peers we must enjoy in order to be able to > fully participate in society on a par with the sighted. Though it > starts with us, a technological world dictates that we have equal > access to information in the information and knowledge age. > Accessibility must ultimately be available if we are to actively and > productively participate in such critical areas of life as education, > employment and leisure. > > We must achieve equality of opportunity through making our own > accessibility solutions where practical and advocating for reasonable > accomodations when accessibility is required in order for us to > participate. The issues boil down to one of these two needs in all > cases. There is no third option of taking the path of least > resistance; not if we want to count ourselves as fully living and > breathing human beings and citizens, possessing the same inalienable > rights and responsibilities already enjoyed by the sighted. > > One excellent example of a project where we are making our own > accessibility is Benetech's Bookshare project available at > http://www.bookshare.org. > Blind people and others with print reading disabilities subscribe to a > web based service where they may download and read from a selection of > tens of thousands of books available in an accessible, electronic > format for use on their computers and portable assistive technology. > This is all made possible by a team of blind and sighted volunteers > who scan books into electronic format and validators who correct > scanning errors and reformat the books for final entry into the > collection. > > Another example of making our own accessibility is the existence of > the blindness access technology industry. We spend tens of thousands > of dollars on screen readers, Braille displays, scanners with optical > character recognition software, specialized personal digital > assistants (PDAs) and a myriad of other high and low technology items > on which we have grown to depend in order to adapt ourselves to the > world. In many cases, government agencies purchase some or all of > this technology under specific circumstances, but this is, by no > means, guaranteed. > > Despite our own efforts, there often remains a wide gap between that > which we are able to make accessible on our own and that technology > which we must use in the classroom, on the job, etc. When we are not > able to close these gaps through our own efforts and assistiv
RE: Easy CDDA Audio Converter
Bingo! Thanks Doc, much appreciated. Jonathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doc Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 4:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter Jonathon if you are using jaws turn your graphic to all under insert v use your jaws cursor to find the graphics # on the same line as the drive letter and name it browse. This is that missing element. You will need the jaws cursor to still find it but at least now it will be named. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:02 AM Subject: Easy CDDA Audio Converter > Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. > > Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the > converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, > but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am > having > trouble figuring out how one does that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 3168 (20080609) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
Hello Mike, This is what someone told me about Real Player 11. But I tried all versions of Real Player including that one, I could not get them to work for me. So I ended up uninstalling them. Sure I could play audio files, but I couldn't do those other things. Things like ripping and burning CD's and playing streaming audio off the net. If this CBS Media Player is anything like that, then some serious work arounds will need to be done. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:18 AM Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio > Darrell > > First, what I want is to try this player to see if there is anything wrong > with it ?? > How can I intelligently comment on something when it may even work for me > if I need it to. > And there may be other ways at getting at the same stations I much prefer. > > What you have here is a warning, folks, which may mean there is a problem > for all or some folks. > But it would be nice also to have some firsthand experience both in using > the product and perhaps in working work arounds before crying wolf. > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
John While I tried RP11, I went back to Rp10.5 as I preferred it. I don't require doing those other things (as you put it) with RP so for listening needs, RP10.5 more than meets my needs. I keep a variety of players on my system including Real Player, Windows Media Player, and Winamp as each has its place. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free-For-All Friday
I know several list members who have podcasts and webcasts and there are probably many others who I do not know about. I've been trying to think of a way to help podcasters and webcasters promote their casts and came up with this idea. Maybe a couple times a month, say the first and third Friday of each month, we could have a free-for-all Friday when any list member could post a short concise message telling about their cast. I'm thinking posts could be made all day Friday UTC. I would send out a message to the list a few hours prior to the start of the Friday time period and explain that it is a free-for-all Friday and what UTC time would be in the United States and maybe other parts of the world. If I don't get too many complaints against doing this maybe we can try it this Friday, the thirteenth of June. Send complaints to: tom at pc dash audio dot org. If you want to copy and paste the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Tom Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free-For-All Friday
What if posts about web or podcasts could have an indicator in the header of the messages. Like off topic has OT. This way those who wanted or didn't want them could handle the posts in the way they saw fit. some list members would delete them others would send them to a separate folder while others could just read them as they arrived. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:22 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Free-For-All Friday I know several list members who have podcasts and webcasts and there are probably many others who I do not know about. I've been trying to think of a way to help podcasters and webcasters promote their casts and came up with this idea. Maybe a couple times a month, say the first and third Friday of each month, we could have a free-for-all Friday when any list member could post a short concise message telling about their cast. I'm thinking posts could be made all day Friday UTC. I would send out a message to the list a few hours prior to the start of the Friday time period and explain that it is a free-for-all Friday and what UTC time would be in the United States and maybe other parts of the world. If I don't get too many complaints against doing this maybe we can try it this Friday, the thirteenth of June. Send complaints to: tom at pc dash audio dot org. If you want to copy and paste the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Tom Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Easy CDDA Audio Converter
The browse button is there, but it takes someone sighted to find it. I switched mine to my E drive but had to get sighted help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:34 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter This is a rather annoying bug in the current version of the program which I have been told is slated to be fixed. Very frustrating. Bruce -- An accessible captcha solution that does not take into account the needs of the deaf-blind is no acceptable solution at all. Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://masterofmusings.livejournal.com Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. > > Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the > converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, > but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am having > trouble figuring out how one does that. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3169 (20080609) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3169 (20080609) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free-For-All Friday
Ah, Friday, the 13th. So if it doesn't work out, at least there is something to pin the blame upon, !! While it would be impossible to enforce strictly, might it be possible to suggesst that some code be inserted into the subject line that might alert those not interested. And, how about encouraging posting info about streams or podcasts that one might not have a direct affiliation with but concsidered might be of interest to the group in general. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free-For-All Friday
Tom, rather than increase list noise, how about compiling a document of list members who are broadcasters which can be accessed on the Internet? This document would be sent monthly with all the other scheduled list reminders. It could also be placed on the Pc-Audio website for ongoing and permanent access. Each broadcaster would provide the name of the program or station, how and when it can be accessed and a short description of the offering. I believe this would be more useful and effective than scores of individual messages. This way, the list can remain a technical support forum while at the same time demonstrating the capacities of blind people with the tools being discussed on the list. Kelly - Original Message - From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Free-For-All Friday > What if posts about web or podcasts could have an indicator in the header > of > the messages. Like off topic has OT. This way those who wanted or > didn't > want them could handle the posts in the way they saw fit. some list > members > would delete them others would send them to a separate folder while > others > could just read them as they arrived. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tom > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:22 PM > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: Free-For-All Friday > > I know several list members who have podcasts and webcasts and there are > probably many others who I do not know about. > I've been trying to think of a way to help podcasters and webcasters > promote > their casts and came up with this idea. > > Maybe a couple times a month, say the first and third Friday of each > month, > we could have a free-for-all Friday when any list member could post a > short > concise message telling about their cast. I'm thinking posts could be > made > all day Friday UTC. I would send out a message to the list a few hours > prior to the start of the Friday time period and explain that it is a > free-for-all Friday and what UTC time would be in the United States and > maybe other parts of the world. > > If I don't get too many complaints against doing this maybe we can try it > this Friday, the thirteenth of June. > > Send complaints to: > tom at pc dash audio dot org. > If you want to copy and paste the e-mail address: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free-For-All Friday
Kelly, who would maintain the web page wit the links to the pod and web casts on it? Are you volunteering? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:30 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Free-For-All Friday Ah, Friday, the 13th. So if it doesn't work out, at least there is something to pin the blame upon, !! While it would be impossible to enforce strictly, might it be possible to suggesst that some code be inserted into the subject line that might alert those not interested. And, how about encouraging posting info about streams or podcasts that one might not have a direct affiliation with but concsidered might be of interest to the group in general. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Extracting embedded audio from an email message?
- Original Message - From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BlindTech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: Extracting embedded audio from an email message? > Can anyone remind me of the steps to extract an embedded audio file from > an email message? In particular, what is the path to the temporary folder > where the embedded audio file exists while the message is open and the > audio playing? > > Thanks. > > Blessed Be, > > Dana > that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized > pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. > > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: dsleslie > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > Your Source for Discounted Ideas > http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New AOL Player
Actually, the website says the CBS player goes into effect tomorrow. Is this the player they call 4.0 or is there another one? The links in the 4.0 are findable; however, they cannot be clicked on. Any ideas about this one? Marsha Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReplayAV and Youtube
Hi Am I Right in thinking that ReplayAV 8 captures from streaming video like Youtube? Gordon McFarlane Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SV: Euro08 Broadcaste
Hello! Doesn't bbc send any games? The swedish radio send all games thats the only thing i know. /Anders. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Ketan Kothari Skickat: den 5 juni 2008 19:43 Till: PC audio discussion list. Ämne: Euro08 Broadcaste Can we listen to euro08 online anywhere? Surprisingly this time it is not being broadcaste by BBC in UK. I wonder who is doing it or is it totally out? Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 24223281, Cell: 9987550614 MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype ID: Ketan Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
best speakers that works with the creative x fi extream audio sound card
just like the subject line states what are the best speakers that works the best with this sound card? i would like great sounding sound and the ability if needed to swop speakers with other ones if needed? also would like a sub whoofer witht he speaker package Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReplayAV and Youtube
yes, replay av can do that just fine i do this all the time - Original Message - From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC-Audio" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: ReplayAV and Youtube > Hi > Am I Right in thinking that ReplayAV 8 captures from streaming video like > Youtube? > Gordon McFarlane > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter
glad I could help. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Easy CDDA Audio Converter > Bingo! Thanks Doc, much appreciated. > > Jonathan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of doc > Sent: Tuesday, 10 June 2008 4:24 a.m. > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Easy CDDA Audio Converter > > Jonathon if you are using jaws turn your graphic to all under insert v > use your jaws cursor to find the graphics # on the same line as the drive > letter and name it browse. This is that missing element. You will need > the > > jaws cursor to still find it but at least now it will be named. > - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:02 AM > Subject: Easy CDDA Audio Converter > > >> Hi all, I'm using this to convert a bunch of stuff to AAC+ for my N82. >> >> Does anyone have some advice regarding how you specify the folder for the >> converted files? I've managed to get it to the root folder of my D drive, >> but I want to have the files placed in a folder called d:\aac and am >> having >> trouble figuring out how one does that. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jonathan >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> __ NOD32 3168 (20080609) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ NOD32 3170 (20080610) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online(AOL) Radio
I think that this is a good point! One group of blind folks that is responsible for making accessible in the blind community is the folks at System Access, and Serotek. I may be a protestant, but I also identify with the Jewish people and their struggles through the years! And as far as AOL Radio is concerned! we also need to go to CBS and demand that their player is made accessible for us! - Original Message - From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Wlodkowski, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online(AOL) Radio > Hello Everyone, > > As an accessibility evangelist, of course, I disagree with any and all > those > who frequently make statements emphasizing our "smallness" and > insignificance in the world at large as a means to justify doing little or > nothing about accessibility challenges. Yes. We are very tiny in number > in > comparison with the rest of the population who is not blind, but that > really > has nothing to do with how well we can make our voices heard in order to > achieve positive changes for the better. One possible metaphore might be > to > compare us with those who profess their faith in the Jewish religion here > in > the United States, which is an incredibly small minority in number as > compared with catholics and evangelical Christians. Despite their small > numbers, the Jewish seem to experience little or no difficulty making > their > needs known and they tend to enjoy great success and wealth in all walks > of > life. > > I'd like to see something similar happen for those of us who are blind. > We > can't look to others to make this happen, but only to ourselves. It must > start with us! We must decide that we are valuable human beings deserving > of our human rights, of the accessibility and equal treatment with our > sighted peers we must enjoy in order to be able to fully participate in > society on a par with the sighted. Though it starts with us, a > technological world dictates that we have equal access to information in > the > information and knowledge age. Accessibility must ultimately be available > if we are to actively and productively participate in such critical areas > of > life as education, employment and leisure. > > We must achieve equality of opportunity through making our own > accessibility > solutions where practical and advocating for reasonable accomodations when > accessibility is required in order for us to participate. The issues boil > down to one of these two needs in all cases. There is no third option of > taking the path of least resistance; not if we want to count ourselves as > fully living and breathing human beings and citizens, possessing the same > inalienable rights and responsibilities already enjoyed by the sighted. > > One excellent example of a project where we are making our own > accessibility > is Benetech's Bookshare project available at http://www.bookshare.org. > Blind people and others with print reading disabilities subscribe to a web > based service where they may download and read from a selection of tens of > thousands of books available in an accessible, electronic format for use > on > their computers and portable assistive technology. This is all made > possible by a team of blind and sighted volunteers who scan books into > electronic format and validators who correct scanning errors and reformat > the books for final entry into the collection. > > Another example of making our own accessibility is the existence of the > blindness access technology industry. We spend tens of thousands of > dollars > on screen readers, Braille displays, scanners with optical character > recognition software, specialized personal digital assistants (PDAs) and a > myriad of other high and low technology items on which we have grown to > depend in order to adapt ourselves to the world. In many cases, > government > agencies purchase some or all of this technology under specific > circumstances, but this is, by no means, guaranteed. > > Despite our own efforts, there often remains a wide gap between that which > we are able to make accessible on our own and that technology which we > must > use in the classroom, on the job, etc. When we are not able to close > these > gaps through our own efforts and assistive technology, reasonable > accomodations on the part of the developer of that technology are required > if we are to be permitted full and equal participation. Failures to > reasonably accomodate our needs often result in the curtailment of > educational opportunities and even the needless loss of jobs! > > As a blind community, we can take actions such as the following to improve > our accessibility to the world of technology around us: > * Understand that we need equal a
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
I think that all accessibility is important! I don't think that one's any more important, from worrying about these silent cars, to accessible currency, to accessibility within the work place, as well as accessibility when we're watching TV, listening to radio, and watching movies with video description! - Original Message - From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:02 PM Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio > John and Darrell > > While I sympathize with your cause (and at this point do you guys even > know what problems this player will present, if any), > blind people in particular and Americans in general have far bigger things > on their plate these days then worrying if someone can get at a media > player. > John, your safely crossing a street deserves 250% greater attention than > this CBS/AOL player. > Perhaps this player will prove workable via scripts or whatever. > Perhaps other players can and will play the same streams. > Frankly, I am ffar more concerned about the spiraling cost of gas, how > expensive medical care and insurance is, that, in the case of northern > Florida, you guys are fighting the Central part of the state over water > wrights, and the myriads of other social issues that involve quality of > life. > Sure, it would be nice if this player worked out of the box; but having > watched so many of these blindness evangelist battles, I often have found > that the things that get complained about are usable either directly or > indirectly. > It is not that this isn't important; but there are far more things that > ought to be viewed as important and perhaps some values are totally out of > whack when quantums of energy get directed to an audio player rather than > other things. > There aren't unlimited dollars out there; and frankly I have a greater > concern that John can get home safely than whether he'll have to use > another player to listen to his favorite sports talk show. > why? Well, if he cannot get around safely, he won't be able to listen to > those shows anyway? > And if he cannot afford adequate health care directly or indirectly, he > won't be around to listen either. > > America is going through tough times these days; look at home > foreclosures, rising unemployment rates, and all the rest. Politicians > cannot embrace the types of things we are talking here at the moment as > frankly it is even sad that we can give these things greater importance > when there are true hurts out there, not just inconveniences. > > Yes, I'll be curious Monday to see what this means if anything. However, > I am guessing that all of us will be listening to most of the same things > we do today, but perhaps in a slightly different way. > > And before writing off the new AOL player, I would suggest first looking > at the product to see if the warnings are warranted. > Perhaps they are, but they may not be also. And there are many ways to > listen to the same thing. > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
I don't know if this exactly relates to PC audio, but as far as progress with accessibility is concerned, there's an old Jewish proverb that says, "If we don't go forward, we go backwards!" I don't know if I got that quote exactly right, but I thought I heard something to that effect. For over 200, we've been trying to make progress, while gaining our independence! - Original Message - From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:48 PM Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio > Hello Mike, > > Well, hmm, of course, urgings to advocate for better accessibility do not > negate other items on one's plate, and I even said this particular > specific > matter isn't of the utmost priority in my own article on this subject... > :-) > > This AOL player issue is primarily used in the article as yet another > example of possibly taking steps backward and attempting to do something > about it. How many minutes does it take each of you to write two short > notes: one to the AOL accessibility team and another to CBS? I even > provided the e-mail address and link in my article. What more do you > want? > > Of course, again, there are always many many reasons and ways to justify > doing absolutely nothing at all. Somehow, doing or saying nothing at all > about any accessibility issue, regardless of importance, is emphasized > over > taking any action. Oh, well... > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From > AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio > > > John and Darrell > > While I sympathize with your cause (and at this point do you guys even > know what problems this player will present, if any), > blind people in particular and Americans in general have far bigger things > on their plate these days then worrying if someone can get at a media > player. > John, your safely crossing a street deserves 250% greater attention than > this CBS/AOL player. > Perhaps this player will prove workable via scripts or whatever. > Perhaps other players can and will play the same streams. > Frankly, I am ffar more concerned about the spiraling cost of gas, how > expensive medical care and insurance is, that, in the case of northern > Florida, you guys are fighting the Central part of the state over water > wrights, and the myriads of other social issues that involve quality of > life. > Sure, it would be nice if this player worked out of the box; but having > watched so many of these blindness evangelist battles, I often have found > that the things that get complained about are usable either directly or > indirectly. > It is not that this isn't important; but there are far more things that > ought to be viewed as important and perhaps some values are totally out of > whack when quantums of energy get directed to an audio player rather than > other things. > There aren't unlimited dollars out there; and frankly I have a greater > concern that John can get home safely than whether he'll have to use > another player to listen to his favorite sports talk show. > why? Well, if he cannot get around safely, he won't be able to listen to > those shows anyway? > And if he cannot afford adequate health care directly or indirectly, he > won't be around to listen either. > > America is going through tough times these days; look at home > foreclosures, rising unemployment rates, and all the rest. Politicians > cannot embrace the types of things we are talking here at the moment as > frankly it is even sad that we can give these things greater importance > when there are true hurts out there, not just inconveniences. > > Yes, I'll be curious Monday to see what this means if anything. However, > I am guessing that all of us will be listening to most of the same things > we do today, but perhaps in a slightly different way. > > And before writing off the new AOL player, I would suggest first looking > at the product to see if the warnings are warranted. > Perhaps they are, but they may not be also. And there are many ways to > listen to the same thing. > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio
I'm sorry! I just kind of read this thread late. Thanks, Tom! - Original Message - From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:12 AM Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News FromAmericaOnline(AOL) Radio > Please keep this thread related to audio and not make it a > rant about Accessibility issues. > > Thank you, > > Tom > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
