Re: Bone conduction headphones.

2007-08-31 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
>From what i understand its just headphones you connect to your ipod.
BUt i may be wrong here.
/Anders.
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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:39 AM
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> that is not what Rick means. Rick like me had a bone phone which had the 
> radio on
> one side, the battery pack on the other, and a padded like bag strap with 
> two
> speakers in it  that rested on the neck and shoulders. it was pretty 
> decent. this
> was the forerunner to the walkmans from Sony. radios of this type have 
> gotten
> crappier ever since.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.
>
>
>>I really hope that by bones you don't mean conducting through eardrums,
>> because that's just bad for your hearing.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Anders,
>>>
>>> I used something like that about 25 years ago.  It was a radio that 
>>> slung
>>> over your shoulders and the sounds went through your bones so you could
>>> hear
>>> it.  Not sure how much the technology has changed since then but the 
>>> radio
>>> called the "bone phone" did work pretty well.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
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>>> From: "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:26 PM
>>> Subject: Bone conduction headphones.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>> Has anyone tried bone-conduction headphones.
>>> I just heard about them and it seems as an intresting thech thing.
>>> /Anders.
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Re: Replay AV & WGN stream (Dennis)

2007-08-31 Thread dennis
that is the ticket. wow thanks a bunch for that. i didn't know you could 
record with stream capture on that type of stream. thats fantastic. thanks 
again.
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> Hi Dennis
> Use the following URL for WGN radio:
>
> http://www.replay-video.com/user/redirect_station.php?id=265&format=REAL
>
>
> The above link is from Applian's media guide and have been using
> it for over a year now with no issues. I record using stream
> capture method.
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Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread Mike Pietruk
Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and stations 
one has scheduled?
I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export them 
so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to reinstall 
the program.
Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general settings?

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Delta 1010 audio card.

2007-08-31 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

I am looking for a comparison between the delta 66 and the Delta 1010 audio 
cards.

Are they both of the same quality?  I say this because the 1010 lists for only 
$10 more than the 66.

Any help would be appreciated all over the place.

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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread dennis
i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file with 
all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on a new 
install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
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Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info


> Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and stations
> one has scheduled?
> I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export them
> so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to reinstall
> the program.
> Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general settings?
>
> Thanks in advance for any guidance!
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Re: Bone conduction headphones.

2007-08-31 Thread Gary G Schindler
the headphones probably rest behind the ear. there would be nothing wrong with 
them I guess. I don't think you would want to use them in a noisy environment.

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.


> Hello!
>>From what i understand its just headphones you connect to your ipod.
> BUt i may be wrong here.
> /Anders.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.
>
>
>> that is not what Rick means. Rick like me had a bone phone which had the
>> radio on
>> one side, the battery pack on the other, and a padded like bag strap with
>> two
>> speakers in it  that rested on the neck and shoulders. it was pretty
>> decent. this
>> was the forerunner to the walkmans from Sony. radios of this type have
>> gotten
>> crappier ever since.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Nick G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.
>>
>>
>>>I really hope that by bones you don't mean conducting through eardrums,
>>> because that's just bad for your hearing.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Bone conduction headphones.
>>>
>>>
 Hi Anders,

 I used something like that about 25 years ago.  It was a radio that
 slung
 over your shoulders and the sounds went through your bones so you could
 hear
 it.  Not sure how much the technology has changed since then but the
 radio
 called the "bone phone" did work pretty well.

 Rick

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 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:26 PM
 Subject: Bone conduction headphones.


 Hello!
 Has anyone tried bone-conduction headphones.
 I just heard about them and it seems as an intresting thech thing.
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Updated Napster Scripts for JFW?

2007-08-31 Thread Kane Brolin
Near the end of 2003 I downloaded a short set of scripts for Napster
that were designed for Napster Client 2.0.7.2.  These were offered, I
believe, on AccessiblePrograms.com, but are not any more.

Since the iTunes Music Store is largely inaccessible to me as a blind
PC user, especially when it comes to downloading or buying full
albums, I've thought recently about Napster and have gotten a trial
subscription to start with.  But I've noticed the Napster client
software is up to Ver. 3.8.1.4 now, and JAWS doesn't seem to respond
to it well without scripts.  Brian, I singled you out on this message
because you've written on the Blind iPod list that you use this
service and are happy with it.

But I find that I must use the JAWS cursor to do most of the
navigating; and selecting exactly what I want and getting to all the
background info and all available albums is tricky, with the Virtual
PC Cursor sometimes working and sometimes not.

Anyone have tips?  I haven't seen this issue discussed on the JFW list
since 2004.

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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread Mike Pietruk
Well, that's what I expected would need to be done.
Copy and paste the info into a .txt file and then do the same when 
re-entering the info into the program.
I have looked at the replay AV directory as well as scowering my document 
& settings folder and haven't spotted anything that
would suggest the info is readily available.
I hope that I am wrong.


On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:

> i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file with 
> all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on a new 
> install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:09 AM
> Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info
> 
> 
> > Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and stations
> > one has scheduled?
> > I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export them
> > so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to reinstall
> > the program.
> > Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general settings?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any guidance!
> >
> >   Mike
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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread dennis
me too. i even went through the entire replay folder looking for logs or 
files of any kind that would put everything in there autimaticly. you could 
try making a backup coppy of the replay folder and all its contence and when 
you install on a new machine or a different version just coppy all the 
contence of the old one into the new one. i don't see why that wouldn't 
work.
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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info


> Well, that's what I expected would need to be done.
> Copy and paste the info into a .txt file and then do the same when
> re-entering the info into the program.
> I have looked at the replay AV directory as well as scowering my document
> & settings folder and haven't spotted anything that
> would suggest the info is readily available.
> I hope that I am wrong.
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
>
>> i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file 
>> with
>> all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on a 
>> new
>> install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:09 AM
>> Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info
>>
>>
>> > Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and 
>> > stations
>> > one has scheduled?
>> > I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export 
>> > them
>> > so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to 
>> > reinstall
>> > the program.
>> > Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general 
>> > settings?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any guidance!
>> >
>> >   Mike
>> >
>> >
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verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread mark bishop
I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against 
their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot see 
these letters what do we do?  

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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Mark,

We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an 
accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge, that 
reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also sign 
the Yahoo! petition indicated below.

Thanks.

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! 
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
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I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against 
their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot 
see these letters what do we do?

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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread Mike Pietruk
Dennis

Your suggestion of copying makes sense -- and I do have a backup of the 
folder -- but it is also possible that the vital info is located somewhere 
in
documents & settings or some other folder.
That's the rub.


On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:

> me too. i even went through the entire replay folder looking for logs or 
> files of any kind that would put everything in there autimaticly. you could 
> try making a backup coppy of the replay folder and all its contence and when 
> you install on a new machine or a different version just coppy all the 
> contence of the old one into the new one. i don't see why that wouldn't 
> work.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info
> 
> 
> > Well, that's what I expected would need to be done.
> > Copy and paste the info into a .txt file and then do the same when
> > re-entering the info into the program.
> > I have looked at the replay AV directory as well as scowering my document
> > & settings folder and haven't spotted anything that
> > would suggest the info is readily available.
> > I hope that I am wrong.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
> >
> >> i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file 
> >> with
> >> all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on a 
> >> new
> >> install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:09 AM
> >> Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info
> >>
> >>
> >> > Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and 
> >> > stations
> >> > one has scheduled?
> >> > I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export 
> >> > them
> >> > so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to 
> >> > reinstall
> >> > the program.
> >> > Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general 
> >> > settings?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for any guidance!
> >> >
> >> >   Mike
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: Updated Napster Scripts for JFW?

2007-08-31 Thread Brian Hartgen
Hi Kane

Thank you for your message.  Yes I use Napster every week and don't have any 
real problems with it, here are a few things to try.

First, you have an edit field into which you can type the artist or track 
you are looking for.
Next to this is a combo box containing items such as artist or track. These 
are both accessible.
Once this combo box is manipulated in the way you wish, Pressing Enter wil 
usually reveal a list of tracks.  You can arrow down to a track, activate 
the context menu and select download.
Upon activating the context menu, sometimes you will see an item "view 
artist page" which will be the first item on the menu.  You can hit enter on 
this item.
Once this is done, I start exploring with the jaws cursor.  You can usually 
find the title of an album somewhere, or in some instances the phrase "other 
members downloaded" or something similar.  Put the jaws cursor on any of 
those elements and route PC to jaws.  the virtual cursor is then available, 
making it possible for you   to select albums by pressing enter on the 
hyperlink for the album.  From there, you can select the download album 
link.

I did have a problem a couple of weeks ago when I downloaded an album, and 
then wanted to download part of it again.  However, Napster will not let you 
do this because its internal database thought the tracks were in my library, 
which they were not.  I called Napster, and they told me which files to 
delete in order to rectify that problem.  I could find my notes on this and 
let you have them if you wanted.  They were quite helpful at Napster and 
they realise there store is not completely accessible, but I have found it 
to be the most accessible music service with the widest range of tracks.

Given that I have used it for about two years or more, I have a lot of 
experience in using it and if I can answer anything else please do not 
hesitate to ask.

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To: "Brian Hartgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC Audio Discussion List" 

Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: Updated Napster Scripts for JFW?


> Near the end of 2003 I downloaded a short set of scripts for Napster
> that were designed for Napster Client 2.0.7.2.  These were offered, I
> believe, on AccessiblePrograms.com, but are not any more.
>
> Since the iTunes Music Store is largely inaccessible to me as a blind
> PC user, especially when it comes to downloading or buying full
> albums, I've thought recently about Napster and have gotten a trial
> subscription to start with.  But I've noticed the Napster client
> software is up to Ver. 3.8.1.4 now, and JAWS doesn't seem to respond
> to it well without scripts.  Brian, I singled you out on this message
> because you've written on the Blind iPod list that you use this
> service and are happy with it.
>
> But I find that I must use the JAWS cursor to do most of the
> navigating; and selecting exactly what I want and getting to all the
> background info and all available albums is tricky, with the Virtual
> PC Cursor sometimes working and sometimes not.
>
> Anyone have tips?  I haven't seen this issue discussed on the JFW list
> since 2004.
>
> -Kane 



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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread dennis
i have looked all through documents and settings and have found no reference 
to replay what so ever. so i would suggest the coppy method. i have a news 
reader that i use and applied this method when i got my new machine 2 weeks 
ago. i didn't have to subscribe to all the groups and scan for headers all 
over again because i just pasted the contence of the old folder into the new 
one. also if you go into documents and settings you can backup your favorite 
files in the same manner and you don't have to import export through IE.
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From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info


> Dennis
>
> Your suggestion of copying makes sense -- and I do have a backup of the
> folder -- but it is also possible that the vital info is located somewhere
> in
> documents & settings or some other folder.
> That's the rub.
>
>
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
>
>> me too. i even went through the entire replay folder looking for logs or
>> files of any kind that would put everything in there autimaticly. you 
>> could
>> try making a backup coppy of the replay folder and all its contence and 
>> when
>> you install on a new machine or a different version just coppy all the
>> contence of the old one into the new one. i don't see why that wouldn't
>> work.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info
>>
>>
>> > Well, that's what I expected would need to be done.
>> > Copy and paste the info into a .txt file and then do the same when
>> > re-entering the info into the program.
>> > I have looked at the replay AV directory as well as scowering my 
>> > document
>> > & settings folder and haven't spotted anything that
>> > would suggest the info is readily available.
>> > I hope that I am wrong.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
>> >
>> >> i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file
>> >> with
>> >> all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on 
>> >> a
>> >> new
>> >> install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
>> >> - Original Message - 
>> >> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:09 AM
>> >> Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and
>> >> > stations
>> >> > one has scheduled?
>> >> > I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export
>> >> > them
>> >> > so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to
>> >> > reinstall
>> >> > the program.
>> >> > Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general
>> >> > settings?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance for any guidance!
>> >> >
>> >> >   Mike
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Mac Norins
Darrell and Mark,

The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same problem, with 
My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not, apparently, find a 
reasonable way to contact them, in their contact link!  I surfed around the 
website many times, without finding a way to contact them by phone, or by E 
mail!  One would think, that since they are now under the Google umbrella (I 
think?), that they would have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on 
how to contact them?

Thanks,

-Mac-
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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


Hello Mark,

We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an
accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge, that
reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also sign
the Yahoo! petition indicated below.

Thanks.

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
Subject: verification messages on sites


I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against
their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot
see these letters what do we do?

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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Sarah
I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is getting good 
signatures so far. Look for it on my site at 
www.marrie.org.

SA&G

: Darrell and Mark,
:
: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
: them?
:
: Thanks,
:
: -Mac-
: - Original Message -
: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:
:
: Hello Mark,
:
: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
:
: Thanks.
:
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
: another person.
: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
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: Message - 
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: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
: Subject: verification messages on sites
:
:
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Brent Harding
Actually, last I knew, myspace is owned by news corporation. Youtube is 
owned by Google, which has the ability to do this. They may think, oh why 
would we care about videos, but we can't listen to the audio of certain 
content unless we log in.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


> Darrell and Mark,
>
> The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same problem, 
> with
> My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not, apparently, find a
> reasonable way to contact them, in their contact link!  I surfed around 
> the
> website many times, without finding a way to contact them by phone, or by 
> E
> mail!  One would think, that since they are now under the Google umbrella 
> (I
> think?), that they would have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, 
> on
> how to contact them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
> Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
>
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an
> accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge, 
> that
> reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also 
> sign
> the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> - Original Message - 
> From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
> Subject: verification messages on sites
>
>
> I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against
> their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot
> see these letters what do we do?
>
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Mac Norins
Well, now!  I am not going to belabor this point, but, since My Space is 
owned by Rupert Murdoch, I will just have to boycott it, for some time to 
come!  I have no love for anything to do with that man!

Thanks for the heads up and that's about all I have to say on the issue!

-Mac-
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From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


Actually, last I knew, myspace is owned by news corporation. Youtube is
owned by Google, which has the ability to do this. They may think, oh why
would we care about videos, but we can't listen to the audio of certain
content unless we log in.

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From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


> Darrell and Mark,
>
> The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same problem,
> with
> My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not, apparently, find a
> reasonable way to contact them, in their contact link!  I surfed around
> the
> website many times, without finding a way to contact them by phone, or by
> E
> mail!  One would think, that since they are now under the Google umbrella
> (I
> think?), that they would have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas,
> on
> how to contact them?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
> Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
>
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an
> accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge,
> that
> reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also
> sign
> the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> - Original Message - 
> From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
> Subject: verification messages on sites
>
>
> I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against
> their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot
> see these letters what do we do?
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Audio Players And Flash Membery Sticks/Cards

2007-08-31 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello List Members,
I am looking for an audio player that will let me play my music off of a flash 
membery stick/card.
I've seen these for car stereos, but why would a blind person want that?
I am looking for a boom box type of audio player that will do this.
can anyone give me any suggestions?
Thinks.
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Brent Harding
Yes, and I discovered Facebook asks for one of these periodicly when doing 
things like adding a friend. I could make those periodic checks go away if I 
had an accessible cell phone to receive a verification text message, but I 
only have prepaid service which has no solutions available to do that.

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Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


> Hello Mark,
>
> We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an
> accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge, 
> that
> reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also 
> sign
> the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
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> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
> Subject: verification messages on sites
>
>
> I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against
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Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info

2007-08-31 Thread Dean Martineau
My guess is that the information is stored safely in some registry 
key, and once one knows where that is, it wouldn't be a problem to 
back up that key.

Dean


At 08:25 AM 8/31/2007, you wrote:
>Dennis
>
>Your suggestion of copying makes sense -- and I do have a backup of the
>folder -- but it is also possible that the vital info is located somewhere
>in
>documents & settings or some other folder.
>That's the rub.
>
>
>On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
>
> > me too. i even went through the entire replay folder looking for logs or
> > files of any kind that would put everything in there autimaticly. 
> you could
> > try making a backup coppy of the replay folder and all its 
> contence and when
> > you install on a new machine or a different version just coppy all the
> > contence of the old one into the new one. i don't see why that wouldn't
> > work.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: Replay AV Station and Show Info
> >
> >
> > > Well, that's what I expected would need to be done.
> > > Copy and paste the info into a .txt file and then do the same when
> > > re-entering the info into the program.
> > > I have looked at the replay AV directory as well as scowering my document
> > > & settings folder and haven't spotted anything that
> > > would suggest the info is readily available.
> > > I hope that I am wrong.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, dennis wrote:
> > >
> > >> i've allways wondered the same thing because i have to keep a txt file
> > >> with
> > >> all the show names and url's. its not bad to have to re enter them on a
> > >> new
> > >> install if there is only 10 or so, but 20 or 30 is a pain.
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> > >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:09 AM
> > >> Subject: Replay AV Station and Show Info
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Does anyone know where Replay AV stores the info about shows and
> > >> > stations
> > >> > one has scheduled?
> > >> > I'd like, if possible, to either copy those files or somehow export
> > >> > them
> > >> > so that I don't have to re-enter all that info when needing to
> > >> > reinstall
> > >> > the program.
> > >> > Similarily, does anyone know where the program saves its general
> > >> > settings?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance for any guidance!
> > >> >
> > >> >   Mike
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Replay AV 8 backup file answer for you

2007-08-31 Thread petrakigianos-giasou
Replay AV 8 does offer a backup file for you. Actually you can
use either one of the 2 files.

Go to Program Files and find Replay AV 8 and then either
schedule8.dat or the schedule8backup.dat file.

So if you backup this file to a CD for backup purposes you will
be able to import into your Replay AV 8 in the future.

I did a podcast on this.

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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread KANE BROLIN
Perhaps Google will find a way to fix this YouTube problem, as it has done
with originsites such as Gmail.  Note that Google did not invent YouTube.
It just recently acquired it.

You do not, by the way, have to subscribe to YouTube or to get around
CAPTCHAs to listen to audio or watch videos, unless those have explicit
sexual content.  But you did have to subscribe, using the CAPTCHA as one
element of that process, if you wish to post content.

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cd recorders help please

2007-08-31 Thread sean waiting
Dear Friends

I am looking for a cd recorder so I play them on my computer can any body help 
me please.

all the best from sean waiting in England.

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Re: Updated Napster Scripts for JFW?

2007-08-31 Thread KANE BROLIN
Brian:

Thanks for the tips.  I've played around more extensively now with Napster
and think I know what to do to find and purchase albums linked to a certain
artist.  I'm sure I will have additional questions as I gradually get to
know Napster.

Yes, please send me anything you have written about this topic in the past
if you think helpful ideas were presented.

-Kane



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Cool edit and jaws

2007-08-31 Thread Jed Barton
Anyone know how well cool edit works with jaws?
I'm dying to use it, and have heard it works quite well.  Any ideas on where
to get scripts and what types of things you can do?

Sinceer Regards,
Jed

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Seeking wireless outdoor speaker opinions

2007-08-31 Thread Norma A. Boge
Hi audiophiles,

I'm interested in purchasing wireless outdoor speakers for my 
deck.  If anyone has any opinions or personal experience on such 
critters, I welcome your input.

Thanks in advance,
Norma
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Sarah
Actually there is not one that says my topic is not listed. Just three 
suggestions to choose from the last one beeing my email is 
beeing used.
SA&G

: Hi.  Ok this isn't audio related so I'm gonna post this and then I'm
: out of this discussion.  Look near the bottom of the myspace page,
: and you'll see a link that says, contact myspace. the direct link is:
:
: http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=misc.contact
:   On that page which opens in a new browser window, you'll find a
: form. there are a couple of combo boxes, one for the subject of your
: message, and the second one is the reason why you're writing.  You
: then hit the submit button and can then write a more detailed
: suggestion or request.  For best results, let me recommend that the
: subject should be other, and the subcattegory should be issue is not
: in list. Believe me I looked through the list and there is absolutely
: nothing about not being able to see the captcha.
:   Ok, that should do it.
: I hope that helps.
:
:
:
:
:
:
:   , and the cattegory should be
:
: At 10:55 AM 8/31/2007, you wrote:
:>Darrell and Mark,
:>
:>The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
:>problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
:>apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
:>link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
:>to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
:>they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
:>have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
:>them?
:>
:>Thanks,
:>
:>-Mac-
:>- Original Message -
:>From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
:>Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
:>Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:>
:>
:>Hello Mark,
:>
:>We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
:>for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
:>challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
:>users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
:>
:>Thanks.
:>
:>Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
:>Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
:>Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
:>Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
:>another person.
:>Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
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:>telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
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:>Subject: verification messages on sites
:>
:>
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:>If we cannot see these letters what do we do?
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Re: Replay AV 8 backup file answer for you

2007-08-31 Thread Mike Pietruk
Petro

Thanks!  I figured that the info had to be reachable somewhere; and now I 
will add that to my backing-up routine; and, oh yes, grab that
podcast.



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> Replay AV 8 does offer a backup file for you. Actually you can
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> 
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> schedule8.dat or the schedule8backup.dat file.
> 
> So if you backup this file to a CD for backup purposes you will
> be able to import into your Replay AV 8 in the future.
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hey Sarah!

Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal.  Consider 
getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go on over to 
prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both need to find ways to 
do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA petitions, but I feel these 
two steps are critical starting points.


Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! 
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is getting 
good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
www.marrie.org.

SA&G

: Darrell and Mark,
:
: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
: them?
:
: Thanks,
:
: -Mac-
: - Original Message -
: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:
:
: Hello Mark,
:
: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
:
: Thanks.
:
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
: another person.
: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
: Message - 
: From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
: Subject: verification messages on sites
:
:
: I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up
: against their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.
: If we cannot see these letters what do we do?
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Sarah
Well it's a bit to late to get a com domain but I'll see what I can do. Maybe 
my podcast can cover this .

SA&G

: Hey Sarah!
: 
: Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal. 
: Consider getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go
: on over to prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both
: need to find ways to do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA
: petitions, but I feel these two steps are critical starting points.
: 
: 
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
: another person.
: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
: Message - 
: From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
: 
: 
: I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is
: getting good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
: www.marrie.org.
: 
: SA&G
: 
:: Darrell and Mark,
::
:: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
:: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
:: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
:: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
:: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
:: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
:: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
:: them?
::
:: Thanks,
::
:: -Mac-
:: - Original Message -
:: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
:: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
:: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
::
::
:: Hello Mark,
::
:: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
:: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
:: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
:: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
::
:: Thanks.
::
:: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
:: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
:: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
:: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
:: another person.
:: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
:: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
:: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
:: Message -
:: From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
:: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
:: Subject: verification messages on sites
::
::
:: I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up
:: against their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.
:: If we cannot see these letters what do we do?
::
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Ah, hey, cool, I sure know what you mean with respect to covering the costs 
and, well, there's definitely insufficient participation on the part of 
blind people too.  I think the blind community isn't rising up to its 
potential at all with respect to advocacy.

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! 
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


Well it's a bit to late to get a com domain but I'll see what I can do. 
Maybe my podcast can cover this .

SA&G

: Hey Sarah!
:
: Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal.
: Consider getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go
: on over to prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both
: need to find ways to do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA
: petitions, but I feel these two steps are critical starting points.
:
:
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
: another person.
: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
: Message - 
: From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:
:
: I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is
: getting good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
: www.marrie.org.
:
: SA&G
:
:: Darrell and Mark,
::
:: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
:: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
:: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
:: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
:: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
:: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
:: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
:: them?
::
:: Thanks,
::
:: -Mac-
:: - Original Message -
:: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
:: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
:: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
::
::
:: Hello Mark,
::
:: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
:: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
:: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
:: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
::
:: Thanks.
::
:: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
:: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
:: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
:: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
:: another person.
:: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
:: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
:: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
:: Message -
:: From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
:: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
:: Subject: verification messages on sites
::
::
:: I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up
:: against their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.
:: If we cannot see these letters what do we do?
::
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RE: Adobe Audition 2

2007-08-31 Thread Shaun Oliver
Which incidentally is the sucessor to cool edit pro 

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He was talking about Adobe Audition, not Adobe PDF reader.
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  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Adobe Audition 2


  High Samuel,
  I don't know to much about Window Eyes, but you can read .PDF files
with
  Jaws.
  But there are some parts of Adobe that aren't accessible with Jaws.
  If they are, this will be my first time hearing of it.
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  To: 
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:58 PM
  Subject: Adobe Audition 2


  > Hello, I was wondering how accessible Adobe Audition 2.0 is with
Window
  > Eyes. I would also, out of interest, like to know how accessible it
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  > with Jaws for Windows.
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RE: Cool edit and jaws

2007-08-31 Thread Shaun Oliver
It does work quite well with jaws but you need scripts. I've got some
here if you want them. Write me off list. And I'll find a way to send
them to you.
 

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Anyone know how well cool edit works with jaws?
I'm dying to use it, and have heard it works quite well.  Any ideas on
where to get scripts and what types of things you can do?

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RE: Adobe Audition 2

2007-08-31 Thread Jed Barton
Does adobe audition work well with jfw as well? 

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Subject: RE: Adobe Audition 2

Which incidentally is the sucessor to cool edit pro 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Adobe Audition 2

He was talking about Adobe Audition, not Adobe PDF reader.
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  From: DJ DOCTOR P
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Adobe Audition 2


  High Samuel,
  I don't know to much about Window Eyes, but you can read .PDF files with
  Jaws.
  But there are some parts of Adobe that aren't accessible with Jaws.
  If they are, this will be my first time hearing of it.
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  To: 
  Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:58 PM
  Subject: Adobe Audition 2


  > Hello, I was wondering how accessible Adobe Audition 2.0 is with Window
  > Eyes. I would also, out of interest, like to know how accessible it is
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The Radio Shark 2 from Grifin Technology

2007-08-31 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!
Well Grifin Technology seem to have done it again, some listers may  
remember the discussion we had on the wonderful Imic device this  
company released some time back, since then the Imic has undergone a  
few revisions. Now the Radio Shark 2 has come to my attention. Its an  
am/fm radio that plugs into a USB port on your computer, the radio is  
controlled by software and the supplied software is able to allow  
"time shifting"..
Suppose for example you're listening to the Radio Shark through your  
computer and the phone rings, you can then pause your listening and  
resume from where you left off when you finish the phone call.
Now I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these things but I'm  
wondering before I take the plunge, has anyone been more courageous  
than I am and actually bought and tried one? If you have then what  
did you think of it, was reception reasonable? Was the software  
accessible? This isn't a concern from my point of view as I use an  
Imac computer and I have software which is accessible here in the  
form of Audio Hijack Pro which could control the radio Shark if need be.
Finally, are there any similar devices anyone knows of out there.






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Audio Editors For The Mac

2007-08-31 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!
Since I last wrote on this subject I'm happy to say there have been  
some excellent advances in the Audio Editing software on available  
for the Mac, the unfortunate news is that (as far as I'm aware) the  
good folk who develop Pro Tools have not yet seen fit to make their  
product accessible, funny howe previous versions of this application  
were extremely accessible under Mac OS 9 Classic but that's another  
issue so we can only keep writing, hoping and praying.
I've spoken of the Sound Studio audio editor before, this has  
undergone some significant upgrades in the last few months, one of  
which is the added ability toe "cue/review" a file in a similar way  
that Sound Forge does, use number 2 to fast forward and 1 to rewind.
Sound Studio has also incorporated more cursor movements to allow the  
quick moving through a file and more commands to manipulate and  
select sound data through shortcut commands from the keyboard.
Sound Studio gives you access to many effects and processes such as  
pitch change, flange, faze, various graphic equalisers, noise  
generation, delay etc so its a bit more than an audio editor but well  
priced at $79.00
As a final note about Sound Studio, if multi track editing is your  
thing then this software comes into its own with full milti track  
editing support which is fully accessible. If you wish to find out  
more about Sound Studio then visit http://www.feltip.com
Now if you're thinking of just a basic sound editor then Fission may  
be more suited to you at $50.00 and when we're talking basic then  
that's exactly what we're talking here, all Fission does is edit  
audio but it does this task very well. Fission like sound Studio has  
"Cue/Review" commands, the great thing here is that you can see  
exactly where the play head is in the form of a time reading so you  
can "split" a file at the touch of a keystroke, set a selection point  
at the play head at the touch of a keystroke etc.
What Fission really has going for it in my view is that it can use  
Cue Sheets for importing or exporting data, many CD Rippers on the  
market today produce Cue sheets and such software includes Exact  
Audio Copy, Easy CD DA extractor and Max Audio CD Ripper just to name  
a few. A cue file is a simple text file that's produced along with a  
Wave or FLAC file which contains the sound of the audio CD or audio  
project, the Cue sheet contains information on the CD or Audio  
project, at which points on the CD tracks begin and end, the names of  
these tracks etc. Fission can act on these files so for example if  
you had a cue and Wave file from a CD created by a ripper, you could  
load them into Fission and have fission export the results in another  
format, say MP3, ALAC, M4A, Aif etc.
Among Fissions other features are trim crop, normalise, smart split  
(splits the file according to chages in audio level) etc. Fission  
still lacks a little functionality such as a "go to" dialog box but  
we're happy to say that the author of Fission seems to be very  
contactable and open to suggestions so we're hoping that improvements  
will be made to the software in the "not-to-distant" future.
As you can see, Fission is a very basic piece of software, its  
actually designed to be used as part of a package, with other peices  
of software such as Audio Hijack Pro, a multi purpose multi-function  
piece of recording software which "hijacks" and records every  
possible audio source on a Mac that you can think of, these sources  
include the 2 ends of a Skype call and even Hidden applications  
running in the background on a Mac which includes Voiceover, the  
Screen Reading Software built-in to OS Tiger and the soon to be  
released upgrade OS Lepard. Nicecast, a software application which  
allows netcasting of various inputs and sources from your computer,  
all these products are extremely accessible.
To find out more about the audio editor Fission, the recording  
solution Audio Hijack Pro and the Netcasting software Nicecast, visit  
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RE: Audio Editors For The Mac

2007-08-31 Thread Jed Barton
So overall, how accessible is the mac?
I have often thought of getting one, but want a good honest opinion from
someone.
So can you do some serious multitracking with sound studio?  Is it similar
to cool edit?

Sinceer Regards,
Jed 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:20 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Audio Editors For The Mac

Hi!
Since I last wrote on this subject I'm happy to say there have been some
excellent advances in the Audio Editing software on available for the Mac,
the unfortunate news is that (as far as I'm aware) the good folk who develop
Pro Tools have not yet seen fit to make their product accessible, funny howe
previous versions of this application were extremely accessible under Mac OS
9 Classic but that's another issue so we can only keep writing, hoping and
praying.
I've spoken of the Sound Studio audio editor before, this has undergone some
significant upgrades in the last few months, one of which is the added
ability toe "cue/review" a file in a similar way that Sound Forge does, use
number 2 to fast forward and 1 to rewind.
Sound Studio has also incorporated more cursor movements to allow the quick
moving through a file and more commands to manipulate and select sound data
through shortcut commands from the keyboard.
Sound Studio gives you access to many effects and processes such as pitch
change, flange, faze, various graphic equalisers, noise generation, delay
etc so its a bit more than an audio editor but well priced at $79.00 As a
final note about Sound Studio, if multi track editing is your thing then
this software comes into its own with full milti track editing support which
is fully accessible. If you wish to find out more about Sound Studio then
visit http://www.feltip.com Now if you're thinking of just a basic sound
editor then Fission may be more suited to you at $50.00 and when we're
talking basic then that's exactly what we're talking here, all Fission does
is edit audio but it does this task very well. Fission like sound Studio has
"Cue/Review" commands, the great thing here is that you can see exactly
where the play head is in the form of a time reading so you can "split" a
file at the touch of a keystroke, set a selection point at the play head at
the touch of a keystroke etc.
What Fission really has going for it in my view is that it can use Cue
Sheets for importing or exporting data, many CD Rippers on the market today
produce Cue sheets and such software includes Exact Audio Copy, Easy CD DA
extractor and Max Audio CD Ripper just to name a few. A cue file is a simple
text file that's produced along with a Wave or FLAC file which contains the
sound of the audio CD or audio project, the Cue sheet contains information
on the CD or Audio project, at which points on the CD tracks begin and end,
the names of these tracks etc. Fission can act on these files so for example
if you had a cue and Wave file from a CD created by a ripper, you could load
them into Fission and have fission export the results in another format, say
MP3, ALAC, M4A, Aif etc.
Among Fissions other features are trim crop, normalise, smart split (splits
the file according to chages in audio level) etc. Fission still lacks a
little functionality such as a "go to" dialog box but we're happy to say
that the author of Fission seems to be very contactable and open to
suggestions so we're hoping that improvements will be made to the software
in the "not-to-distant" future.
As you can see, Fission is a very basic piece of software, its actually
designed to be used as part of a package, with other peices of software such
as Audio Hijack Pro, a multi purpose multi-function piece of recording
software which "hijacks" and records every possible audio source on a Mac
that you can think of, these sources include the 2 ends of a Skype call and
even Hidden applications running in the background on a Mac which includes
Voiceover, the Screen Reading Software built-in to OS Tiger and the soon to
be released upgrade OS Lepard. Nicecast, a software application which allows
netcasting of various inputs and sources from your computer, all these
products are extremely accessible.
To find out more about the audio editor Fission, the recording solution
Audio Hijack Pro and the Netcasting software Nicecast, visit
http://www.rogueamoeba.com//





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Re: Audio Editors For The Mac

2007-08-31 Thread Dane Trethowan
Right, well I really cannot answer your questions when it comes to  
comparing audio editors on the mac with Cool Edit or Adobe Audition,  
I have used those applications but its been aqbsolute ages since I've  
touched them.
How accessible is a Mac? Well with the two editing applications and  
others I mentioned in my original message its perfectly accessible  
with those. I'd be telling fibs if I told you that VoiceOver is  
accessible with every application written for a Mac, that just isn't  
true and I venture to say that the same holds true with accessability  
on a PC running Windows. Suffice to say, accessability will be a  
thousand times better for the Mac when Lepard comes along in less  
than 2 months time.
If you want further information on accessability as it stands write  
now for various applications then perhaps it would be a good idea to  
write me privately and we can discuss this topic in a broad nature  
which isn't confined to audio. Of course, with the new Macs, you can  
use such software as Bootcamp and Fusion to boot Windows, that way  
you can use both JAWS and Window-Eyes for those times when you need  
to use applications that aren't around for the Mac, if you use Fusion  
then you can switch between Mac OS and Windows at the touch of a  
keystroke, handy when you wish to say copy data between different  
applications on in the different operating systems. If you use  
Bootcamp then you either boot into Windows or the Mac Operating  
system when the computer starts up.
Hope this has helped.

On 01/09/2007, at 4:22 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

So overall, how accessible is the mac?
I have often thought of getting one, but want a good honest opinion from
someone.
So can you do some serious multitracking with sound studio?  Is it  
similar
to cool edit?

Sinceer Regards,
Jed

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
audio.org]
On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:20 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: Audio Editors For The Mac

Hi!
Since I last wrote on this subject I'm happy to say there have been some
excellent advances in the Audio Editing software on available for the  
Mac,
the unfortunate news is that (as far as I'm aware) the good folk who  
develop
Pro Tools have not yet seen fit to make their product accessible,  
funny howe
previous versions of this application were extremely accessible under  
Mac OS
9 Classic but that's another issue so we can only keep writing,  
hoping and
praying.
I've spoken of the Sound Studio audio editor before, this has  
undergone some
significant upgrades in the last few months, one of which is the added
ability toe "cue/review" a file in a similar way that Sound Forge  
does, use
number 2 to fast forward and 1 to rewind.
Sound Studio has also incorporated more cursor movements to allow the  
quick
moving through a file and more commands to manipulate and select  
sound data
through shortcut commands from the keyboard.
Sound Studio gives you access to many effects and processes such as  
pitch
change, flange, faze, various graphic equalisers, noise generation,  
delay
etc so its a bit more than an audio editor but well priced at $79.00  
As a
final note about Sound Studio, if multi track editing is your thing then
this software comes into its own with full milti track editing  
support which
is fully accessible. If you wish to find out more about Sound Studio  
then
visit http://www.feltip.com Now if you're thinking of just a basic sound
editor then Fission may be more suited to you at $50.00 and when we're
talking basic then that's exactly what we're talking here, all  
Fission does
is edit audio but it does this task very well. Fission like sound  
Studio has
"Cue/Review" commands, the great thing here is that you can see exactly
where the play head is in the form of a time reading so you can  
"split" a
file at the touch of a keystroke, set a selection point at the play  
head at
the touch of a keystroke etc.
What Fission really has going for it in my view is that it can use Cue
Sheets for importing or exporting data, many CD Rippers on the market  
today
produce Cue sheets and such software includes Exact Audio Copy, Easy  
CD DA
extractor and Max Audio CD Ripper just to name a few. A cue file is a  
simple
text file that's produced along with a Wave or FLAC file which  
contains the
sound of the audio CD or audio project, the Cue sheet contains  
information
on the CD or Audio project, at which points on the CD tracks begin  
and end,
the names of these tracks etc. Fission can act on these files so for  
example
if you had a cue and Wave file from a CD created by a ripper, you  
could load
them into Fission and have fission export the results in another  
format, say
MP3, ALAC, M4A, Aif etc.
Among Fissions other features are trim crop, normalise, smart split  
(splits
the file according to chages in audio level) etc. Fission still lacks a
little functionality such as a "go 

RE: mp3 converters

2007-08-31 Thread Jed Barton
A nice easy and dirty program is called audio grabber.
I've been using this for years, works awesome. 

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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:47 AM
To: PCAudioList
Subject: mp3 converters

Hi,

What will do the best job as far as converting waves to mp3s?  How do you
guys feel about Sound Forge or Winamp for this process?  Is one better then
the other?


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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Gary Wood
Well I've done my part and signed it, because I think it's wrong to not have 
a way whereby we can sign into Yahoo without using audio, like we can with 
Windows Messenger, or MSN!
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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


> Ah, hey, cool, I sure know what you mean with respect to covering the 
> costs
> and, well, there's definitely insufficient participation on the part of
> blind people too.  I think the blind community isn't rising up to its
> potential at all with respect to advocacy.
>
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> another person.
> Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
> Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
>
>
> Well it's a bit to late to get a com domain but I'll see what I can do.
> Maybe my podcast can cover this .
>
> SA&G
>
> : Hey Sarah!
> :
> : Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal.
> : Consider getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go
> : on over to prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both
> : need to find ways to do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA
> : petitions, but I feel these two steps are critical starting points.
> :
> :
> : Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
> : Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> : Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> : Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> : another person.
> : Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
> : http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
> : telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
> : Message - 
> : From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> : Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
> : Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
> :
> :
> : I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is
> : getting good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
> : www.marrie.org.
> :
> : SA&G
> :
> :: Darrell and Mark,
> ::
> :: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
> :: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
> :: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
> :: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
> :: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
> :: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
> :: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
> :: them?
> ::
> :: Thanks,
> ::
> :: -Mac-
> :: - Original Message -
> :: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> :: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
> :: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
> ::
> ::
> :: Hello Mark,
> ::
> :: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
> :: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
> :: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
> :: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
> ::
> :: Thanks.
> ::
> :: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
> :: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
> :: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
> :: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
> :: another person.
> :: Blind Access Journal blog and podcast:
> :: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com Check out high quality
> :: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
> :: Message -
> :: From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :: To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> :: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
> :: Subject: verification messages on sites
> ::
> ::
> :: I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up
> :: against their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.
> :: If we cannot see these letters what do we do?
> ::
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