Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Ken and other listers considering buying an I-Pod.

You might like to join the Blind I-Pod mailing list for information on all
things I-Pod.  Just send an e-mail to
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with the word subscribe in the subject line.

Regards.



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> Hi,
>
> I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-pod. I
was wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.
>
> For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you left off?
How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation for a blind person?
>
> Ken Burgess
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napster question?

2005-10-23 Thread Angel L Adorno
hi listers has any one on this list ever use napster is it accessible?
thanks so much.

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Re: napster question?

2005-10-23 Thread doc
I use it occasionally and it is accessible.  You need to turn on all
graphics then press ctrl+jawskey+g to get graphics labeled.
  I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it
robert Doc Wright
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Re: napster question?

2005-10-23 Thread John
Hi
I had the Napster software installed on my machine for a couple of 
days during which time I tried every trick to make it work but all to 
no avail.  I actually spoke to the Napster people though that didn't 
get me very far either.

John


>hi listers has any one on this list ever use napster is it accessible?
>thanks so much.


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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Michael Lang
Ken,

if you mean the hard disk iPods, there are better MP3 players,
especially for blind people. If I wanted to listen to Audible, I'd
proberbly buy a BookPort or BookCourier. These machines are equipped with
a DoubleTalk. The new fifth generation iPod is officially called iPod
with video. It has the old touch sensitive scroll wheel. There's special
software like Anapod Explorer, which makes using it easier
for blind people, but why go for something which is a bit difficult to
use, when there's stuff which works well right out of the box?

   <*** Michael Lang ***>

You wrote:

> Hi,

> I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-pod. I was 
> wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.

> For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you left off? 
> How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation for a blind person?

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Re: napster question?

2005-10-23 Thread Ann
I've been using napster for a week or so, and it can be used if you aren't 
afraid to use your Jaws cursor or Mouse Cursor, for Window-eyes, a lot.

There are vast areas for improvement in accessibility, though. I'm sure 
someone with good scripting knowledge could easily script this program for 
JFW, and set files writers probably could make Window-eyes set files as 
well. But, that is, for the moment, beyond my basic scripting capabilities, 
and I have no idea how to begin to write Set Files.

~Ann


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m4a files

2005-10-23 Thread stever2525
I have some m4a files that I need to convert to MP3. What are some options 
please?
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Re: m4a files

2005-10-23 Thread Ann
go to:

www.hymn-project.org

~Ann


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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Ken Burgess
Well Michael, I'm still exploring the I-pod issue. I think I would like an 
MP3 player that stores its data in memory, but a hard disk MP3 player is not 
completely out of the question.

What do you know about the I-pod Shuffle? How about other MP3 players that 
use flash memory?

Ken Burgess

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: I-pods


> Ken,
>
> if you mean the hard disk iPods, there are better MP3 players,
> especially for blind people. If I wanted to listen to Audible, I'd
> proberbly buy a BookPort or BookCourier. These machines are equipped with
> a DoubleTalk. The new fifth generation iPod is officially called iPod
> with video. It has the old touch sensitive scroll wheel. There's special
> software like Anapod Explorer, which makes using it easier
> for blind people, but why go for something which is a bit difficult to
> use, when there's stuff which works well right out of the box?
>
>   <*** Michael Lang ***>
>
> You wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-pod. I 
>> was wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.
>
>> For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you left 
>> off? How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation for a blind 
>> person?
>
>> Ken Burgess 


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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Ken Burgess
Ok, Kevin, I'll give it a shot.

Ken Burgess

You Wrote:

> Hi Ken and other listers considering buying an I-Pod.
>
> You might like to join the Blind I-Pod mailing list for information on all
> things I-Pod.  Just send an e-mail to
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Tyler Wood
Hi,

Do you know if there is a mailing list for the blind that is strictly about 
mp3 players?

thanks,
- Tyler
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: I-pods


> Hi Ken and other listers considering buying an I-Pod.
>
> You might like to join the Blind I-Pod mailing list for information on all
> things I-Pod.  Just send an e-mail to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with the word subscribe in the subject line.
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Kevin
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> From: "Ken Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:11 AM
> Subject: I-pods
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-pod. I
> was wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.
>>
>> For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you left 
>> off?
> How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation for a blind 
> person?
>>
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Tyler Wood
If your wondering, I have a PNY vibe 2 gb mp3 player, and it works great. It 
can even record in stario 32 KBPS, or something similar. There are 2 
models-- you can look at
http://www.pny.com

and see. Also, the vibe acts like a USB removable disk on your computter, so 
in other words all you have to do is copy and paist files. It has a radio, 
but I used to have a hard disk mp3 player. It was a rio nitriss and the 
harddrive finally shot.

best,
Tyler
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: I-pods


> Well Michael, I'm still exploring the I-pod issue. I think I would like an
> MP3 player that stores its data in memory, but a hard disk MP3 player is 
> not
> completely out of the question.
>
> What do you know about the I-pod Shuffle? How about other MP3 players that
> use flash memory?
>
> Ken Burgess
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: I-pods
>
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> if you mean the hard disk iPods, there are better MP3 players,
>> especially for blind people. If I wanted to listen to Audible, I'd
>> proberbly buy a BookPort or BookCourier. These machines are equipped with
>> a DoubleTalk. The new fifth generation iPod is officially called iPod
>> with video. It has the old touch sensitive scroll wheel. There's special
>> software like Anapod Explorer, which makes using it easier
>> for blind people, but why go for something which is a bit difficult to
>> use, when there's stuff which works well right out of the box?
>>
>>   <*** Michael Lang ***>
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>
>>> I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-pod. 
>>> I
>>> was wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.
>>
>>> For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you left
>>> off? How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation for a blind
>>> person?
>>
>>> Ken Burgess
>
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limewire with JFW 5.1

2005-10-23 Thread Tyler Wood
Hi list,

I am wondering if there is a way of making limewire 4.9.33, the latest basic 
version, accessible with JFW 5.1.383, just to be exact. I thought I'd give it a 
try, as many people say its a great program.  But I can't do anything (search, 
download, nothing at all.) And even with configuration, it won't read anything 
to me. Not even the Jaws Cursor. And there are no menus in lime wire.

Can anyone help me?

thanks,
Tyler
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Re: limewire with JFW 5.1

2005-10-23 Thread Ken Burgess
Well, I fooled around with Limewire sometime last year and got it to work a 
bit. Of course, if you are using JFW, you have to use the Java Access 
Bridge.

Basically, it was a matter of having Jaws anounce all the graphics 
characters and clicking on them to see what happens. It was a long and 
tedious process. I didn't really need to use it, so I left it alone after a 
while. With sighted help, it shouldn't take too long to label the graphics 
characters.

Luck!

Ken Burgess

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: limewire with JFW 5.1


> Hi list,
>
> I am wondering if there is a way of making limewire 4.9.33, the latest 
> basic version, accessible with JFW 5.1.383, just to be exact. I thought 
> I'd give it a try, as many people say its a great program.  But I can't do 
> anything (search, download, nothing at all.) And even with configuration, 
> it won't read anything to me. Not even the Jaws Cursor. And there are no 
> menus in lime wire. 


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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Tim Grady
You need to go to apple.com and download an updater.
At 12:06 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
>  The only iPod I've used is the iPod Shuffle.  It is verry
>easy to use.  It only has 2 buttons.  The round button on top
>controls the volume, going between tracks and play and stop.  On the
>back is a switch with 3 positions: off, shuffle and standard play.
>
>I use it for my books I download from audible.  The only problem is
>that mine doesn't save the place when I stop playing the program.
>When I resume the program it is usually 15 to 20 minutes ahead of
>where I stopped it.  I usually listen to the next 20 minutes on my
>computer between the time I stop and resume playing the program on
>the iPod Shuffle.
>On Oct 22, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Ken Burgess wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am thinking about joining the rest of the planet and buying an I-
> > pod. I was wondering how suited they are for reading audio books.
> >
> > For example: when you restart an I-pod, does it resume where you
> > left off? How low of a bitrate can it play? What about navigation
> > for a blind person?
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Re: limewire with JFW 5.1

2005-10-23 Thread Tyler Wood
I think I'll need a lot of instructions (the java access bridge?) in doing 
this. Can someone give me a step-by-step process? And I'm not even sure how 
to label graphics. Can someone explain that to me too?

thanks
Tyler
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: limewire with JFW 5.1


> Well, I fooled around with Limewire sometime last year and got it to work 
> a
> bit. Of course, if you are using JFW, you have to use the Java Access
> Bridge.
>
> Basically, it was a matter of having Jaws anounce all the graphics
> characters and clicking on them to see what happens. It was a long and
> tedious process. I didn't really need to use it, so I left it alone after 
> a
> while. With sighted help, it shouldn't take too long to label the graphics
> characters.
>
> Luck!
>
> Ken Burgess
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:10 AM
> Subject: limewire with JFW 5.1
>
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am wondering if there is a way of making limewire 4.9.33, the latest
>> basic version, accessible with JFW 5.1.383, just to be exact. I thought
>> I'd give it a try, as many people say its a great program.  But I can't 
>> do
>> anything (search, download, nothing at all.) And even with configuration,
>> it won't read anything to me. Not even the Jaws Cursor. And there are no
>> menus in lime wire.
>
>
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Ken Burgess
Does that mean that the Shuffle has no way to fast-forward or rewind through 
a track? And what is "Shuffle?" Some sort of random track selector?

Ken Burgess

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:41 AM
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> You need to go to apple.com and download an updater.
> At 12:06 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
>>  The only iPod I've used is the iPod Shuffle.  It is verry
>>easy to use.  It only has 2 buttons.  The round button on top
>>controls the volume, going between tracks and play and stop.  On the
>>back is a switch with 3 positions: off, shuffle and standard play. 


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Re: m4a files

2005-10-23 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Easy CD-DA Converter, or Goldwave. But why do you need to convert them? 
What's wrong wit leaving them as M4As?
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>I have some m4a files that I need to convert to MP3. What are some options
> please?
> thank you
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Re: Help with recording a chorus

2005-10-23 Thread Jerry Richer
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Chris Skarstad
Hi Ken

You can fast forward and rewind within a track on the shuffle. simply 
hitting the track forward and back buttons and holding them down will do 
this.  By default the shuffle randomizes the tracks you put on it but if 
you don't want that, you can move the selection switch to the other slot 
which is the play tracks in the order they are placed on your shuffle.  The 
shuffle to me is the no frills iPod and doesn't give you much in the way of 
being able to making any changes to the sound quality.  If you get one, 
just be ready to only be able to move back and forward within and between 
tracks. You can't make any sound adjustments like you can on other players.



At 10:05 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
>Does that mean that the Shuffle has no way to fast-forward or rewind through
>a track? And what is "Shuffle?" Some sort of random track selector?
>
>Ken Burgess
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: I-pods
>
>
> > You need to go to apple.com and download an updater.
> > At 12:06 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
> >>  The only iPod I've used is the iPod Shuffle.  It is verry
> >>easy to use.  It only has 2 buttons.  The round button on top
> >>controls the volume, going between tracks and play and stop.  On the
> >>back is a switch with 3 positions: off, shuffle and standard play.
>
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Michael Lang
Ken, you wrote:

> What do you know about the I-pod Shuffle?

One cannot copy MP3 files from and to it with a program like Explorer
and then play these files with the Shuffle. That's why I'm not very
interested in it.

> How about other MP3 players that use flash memory?

The new Olympus WS-300 series should be available soon. they offer a
built-in USB plug, speaker and stereo mic. No additional software
necessary. The WS-320M for instance has one gig of built-in memory.

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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Tyler Wood
The PNY vibe also comes with a USB plug, a line-in port, and internal mic 
for voice recording. Pretty much blind friendly, and does not come with 
software, iether. Has 2 GB of memory. Note: avoid rio products at all costs.
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: I-pods


> Ken, you wrote:
>
>> What do you know about the I-pod Shuffle?
>
> One cannot copy MP3 files from and to it with a program like Explorer
> and then play these files with the Shuffle. That's why I'm not very
> interested in it.
>
>> How about other MP3 players that use flash memory?
>
> The new Olympus WS-300 series should be available soon. they offer a
> built-in USB plug, speaker and stereo mic. No additional software
> necessary. The WS-320M for instance has one gig of built-in memory.
>
>   <*** Michael Lang ***>
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Re: limewire with JFW 5.1

2005-10-23 Thread Marsha Macchi
Hi, Marsha here.  I have JFW 6.10 and cannot get Limewire to work.  The
short answer is you are sadly out of luck as this program is not accessible
in the slightest.

Marsha

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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:10 AM
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> Hi list,
>
> I am wondering if there is a way of making limewire 4.9.33, the latest
basic version, accessible with JFW 5.1.383, just to be exact. I thought I'd
give it a try, as many people say its a great program.  But I can't do
anything (search, download, nothing at all.) And even with configuration, it
won't read anything to me. Not even the Jaws Cursor. And there are no menus
in lime wire.
>
> Can anyone help me?
>
> thanks,
> Tyler
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Nick G
Where's Tj Olsen when you need him?  according to him, there is a shuffle
clone called the Supertangent from a company called Luxpro.  It does this
crap.  Search it if you want.
The IPod series in general are way over rated, and they in general I
recommend you stay away from.
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Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: I-pods


> Ken, you wrote:
>
> > What do you know about the I-pod Shuffle?
>
> One cannot copy MP3 files from and to it with a program like Explorer
> and then play these files with the Shuffle. That's why I'm not very
> interested in it.
>
> > How about other MP3 players that use flash memory?
>
> The new Olympus WS-300 series should be available soon. they offer a
> built-in USB plug, speaker and stereo mic. No additional software
> necessary. The WS-320M for instance has one gig of built-in memory.
>
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archos mp3 player

2005-10-23 Thread Scott Blanks
Hi folks,

I've been searching the internet for info about accessible mp3 players. I've 
heard a very small bit about, and I don't even know if this is the right 
name, the Archos jukebox. Is this an mp3 player? If so, is it accessible for 
a totally blind user? Where can I find info about any accessible mp3 
players? I'm hoping, as most are of course, for something with more than 
just a gig of memory.

Also, if this isn't quite the right place to discuss this topic, can someone 
direct me to an email discussion group more appropriate for my question?

Thank you,
Scott



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Ipodder Question

2005-10-23 Thread Dana S. Leslie
In the drop-down box on the clean-up tab, the same feed appears three
separate times. Does anyone know how to eliminate the duplicates?

Thanks.

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A

D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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Iriver IFP899

2005-10-23 Thread Jim Ruby
Can anyone shead some light on this I would maybe like to get one.

Thanks specs etc I can only find t01 and 799 and best buy and circuitcity.
Great money making opportunities
http://goldpower.teaminator.com
http://www.12dailypro.com/?ref=47996
http://www.worldlpp.com/affiliates/t.php?rid=4489

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Assistive Technology, or, Applied Sociology

2005-10-23 Thread Dana Niswonger
There are none so blind as those who will not see!
Who ever said this was talking about us, though they did not know it at the 
time.
Recently, some have heard fit to write me regarding a message I posted.  Rather 
than write back on an individual basis, I am answering all, via the lists.
 List managers, please allow this to post, though it may be consider to be to 
long by some.
1974 saw me in a new reality.  I was 18, had my first live in girl friend, job 
and two new technological developments, Touch tone telephones and the 
Westinghouse
liquid level indicator.  A remarkable device this and only $595.00.  We all 
know what it does so I need not explain further.
Until the rest of the world wants what we have and use in our vertical market 
every day, only then will we get the very best the world has to offer!
While I work with some of us, I will never work for any of us!  This is to say 
that no person who is blind will ever sign my pay check!
I became interested in computers in 1979, attending a junior college, obtaining 
my degree in Electronic Data Processing.  As this was before the onset of
talking computers I used an Opticon lens to read the CRT. screen.  Completing 
my academic requirements, along with a very bad case of right arm tennis
elbow, I took my first job as a Cobol programmer.  My training at Maryland 
Computer Services brought me in touch with one man who is blind, with vision!
1985 found me working for the state of California, again the only blind 
programmer in the shop.  The XT. had made its debut the previous year and I 
wanted
very much to become involved in the efforts to make it talk.  Leaving CPM. 
behind, I took an extension course in MSDOS. and again met the man who is blind,
with vision.  Purchasing an Arctic's Symphonics board and my first version of 
Jaws, version 1.0, serial number 27, I got involved!  It was quite clear
to me and others that the main stream world is where the highest paying, most 
sought after jobs are to be found.  It was toward this goal that I steered
my course.  Our world was about to be overwhelmed with a glut of technological 
miracles and thus the war began, it is not over yet.
1994 found me as the president of my own software company, Future Vision 
Software, INC.  I had learned Turbo Pascal by this time and developed five 
Christian
based applications on the open market.  Less than 14 months later I found my 
programs raped by Christian hackers and placed on a BBS. known as the Christian
connection. I was using Jaws version 2.3 for DOS. serial number 0039314 at this 
time and quickly became interested in the push toward JFW.  The man who
is blind, with vision never stopped working.  The JFW. development happened so 
fast that two years later I was using Windows 98 and JFW. 3.5, serial number
JFW-35959.  Our talking computer world had turned once again.
Recently, I was privileged to browse a store that boasted of having every 
technological device for the blind.  They may well be right in doing so, though
I cannot imagine why.  I heard everything from bill and color identifiers to 60 
series talking cell phones, talking bar code readers, a new device known
as a Braille Sense and these are just a few of the high priced highlights.  By 
the end of year 2007, we will all be able to hold in our hand a device not
unlike the communicators used by Captain Kirk and his crew in another show with 
vision.  Our device has not yet been named and will contain no moving parts
and will work by two way voice communication.
Just to sum up, in case you haven't gotten my points.  The Shark puts Peepers 
to sleep In A Box!  I have but one disk and can work on any computer system
in the world within five minutes of my arrival.  Every time I have tried to sit 
on the cutting edge of technology, it hurt my butt!  For those who fear
the onset of Vista, soon we will hold the entire wealth of information the 
world has to offer in our hand!  The technology growth curve is imploding in
on itself and making faster science fact for all!  Explode on this!!!
Dana Niswonger
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Re: I-pods

2005-10-23 Thread Paul Oeser
 I think if you hold the play button down it will scan  
through the track.  When it is in the shuffle mode mode it randomly  
plays the tracks.
On Oct 23, 2005, at 10:05 AM, Ken Burgess wrote:

> Does that mean that the Shuffle has no way to fast-forward or  
> rewind through
> a track? And what is "Shuffle?" Some sort of random track selector?
>
> Ken Burgess
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: I-pods
>
>
>
>> You need to go to apple.com and download an updater.
>> At 12:06 AM 10/23/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>>  The only iPod I've used is the iPod Shuffle.  It is verry
>>> easy to use.  It only has 2 buttons.  The round button on top
>>> controls the volume, going between tracks and play and stop.  On the
>>> back is a switch with 3 positions: off, shuffle and standard play.
>>>
>
>
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RE: archos mp3 player

2005-10-23 Thread André van Deventer
Hi Scott

I have the Iriver h320 hard disk mp3 player.  And I am more than satisfied
with it, especially where accessibility is concerned.

And if you perhaps want to record things like meetings on it - this is by
far the best quality recorder in such a portable format that I have ever
heard - especially from its internal microphone.

Andre
 

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Sent: 23 October 2005 08:07 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: archos mp3 player

Hi folks,

I've been searching the internet for info about accessible mp3 players. I've
heard a very small bit about, and I don't even know if this is the right
name, the Archos jukebox. Is this an mp3 player? If so, is it accessible for
a totally blind user? Where can I find info about any accessible mp3
players? I'm hoping, as most are of course, for something with more than
just a gig of memory.

Also, if this isn't quite the right place to discuss this topic, can someone
direct me to an email discussion group more appropriate for my question?

Thank you,
Scott



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Re: archos mp3 player

2005-10-23 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Scott.  I hope that if I'm wrong about this, someone cannot correct me, 
but I thought I heard that they were discontinuing the Archos line.  Now I 
hope that if you're interested in this player that they haven't!
- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:06 PM
Subject: archos mp3 player


> Hi folks,
>
> I've been searching the internet for info about accessible mp3 players. 
> I've
> heard a very small bit about, and I don't even know if this is the right
> name, the Archos jukebox. Is this an mp3 player? If so, is it accessible 
> for
> a totally blind user? Where can I find info about any accessible mp3
> players? I'm hoping, as most are of course, for something with more than
> just a gig of memory.
>
> Also, if this isn't quite the right place to discuss this topic, can 
> someone
> direct me to an email discussion group more appropriate for my question?
>
> Thank you,
> Scott
>
>
>
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Re: Assistive Technology, or, Applied Sociology

2005-10-23 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Dana.  I was interested in your comments!  It's too bad that some 
Christian, or so-called Christian hackers messed up your computer 
programming!  One wonders why anyone can stoop so low as to do things like 
this!  Thanks for an interesting story!
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From: "Dana Niswonger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "bpmessage" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "pcmessage" 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: Assistive Technology, or, Applied Sociology


> There are none so blind as those who will not see!
> Who ever said this was talking about us, though they did not know it at 
> the time.
> Recently, some have heard fit to write me regarding a message I posted. 
> Rather than write back on an individual basis, I am answering all, via the 
> lists.
> List managers, please allow this to post, though it may be consider to be 
> to long by some.
> 1974 saw me in a new reality.  I was 18, had my first live in girl friend, 
> job and two new technological developments, Touch tone telephones and the 
> Westinghouse
> liquid level indicator.  A remarkable device this and only $595.00.  We 
> all know what it does so I need not explain further.
> Until the rest of the world wants what we have and use in our vertical 
> market every day, only then will we get the very best the world has to 
> offer!
> While I work with some of us, I will never work for any of us!  This is to 
> say that no person who is blind will ever sign my pay check!
> I became interested in computers in 1979, attending a junior college, 
> obtaining my degree in Electronic Data Processing.  As this was before the 
> onset of
> talking computers I used an Opticon lens to read the CRT. screen. 
> Completing my academic requirements, along with a very bad case of right 
> arm tennis
> elbow, I took my first job as a Cobol programmer.  My training at Maryland 
> Computer Services brought me in touch with one man who is blind, with 
> vision!
> 1985 found me working for the state of California, again the only blind 
> programmer in the shop.  The XT. had made its debut the previous year and 
> I wanted
> very much to become involved in the efforts to make it talk.  Leaving CPM. 
> behind, I took an extension course in MSDOS. and again met the man who is 
> blind,
> with vision.  Purchasing an Arctic's Symphonics board and my first version 
> of Jaws, version 1.0, serial number 27, I got involved!  It was quite 
> clear
> to me and others that the main stream world is where the highest paying, 
> most sought after jobs are to be found.  It was toward this goal that I 
> steered
> my course.  Our world was about to be overwhelmed with a glut of 
> technological miracles and thus the war began, it is not over yet.
> 1994 found me as the president of my own software company, Future Vision 
> Software, INC.  I had learned Turbo Pascal by this time and developed five 
> Christian
> based applications on the open market.  Less than 14 months later I found 
> my programs raped by Christian hackers and placed on a BBS. known as the 
> Christian
> connection. I was using Jaws version 2.3 for DOS. serial number 0039314 at 
> this time and quickly became interested in the push toward JFW.  The man 
> who
> is blind, with vision never stopped working.  The JFW. development 
> happened so fast that two years later I was using Windows 98 and JFW. 3.5, 
> serial number
> JFW-35959.  Our talking computer world had turned once again.
> Recently, I was privileged to browse a store that boasted of having every 
> technological device for the blind.  They may well be right in doing so, 
> though
> I cannot imagine why.  I heard everything from bill and color identifiers 
> to 60 series talking cell phones, talking bar code readers, a new device 
> known
> as a Braille Sense and these are just a few of the high priced highlights. 
> By the end of year 2007, we will all be able to hold in our hand a device 
> not
> unlike the communicators used by Captain Kirk and his crew in another show 
> with vision.  Our device has not yet been named and will contain no moving 
> parts
> and will work by two way voice communication.
> Just to sum up, in case you haven't gotten my points.  The Shark puts 
> Peepers to sleep In A Box!  I have but one disk and can work on any 
> computer system
> in the world within five minutes of my arrival.  Every time I have tried 
> to sit on the cutting edge of technology, it hurt my butt!  For those who 
> fear
> the onset of Vista, soon we will hold the entire wealth of information the 
> world has to offer in our hand!  The technology growth curve is imploding 
> in
> on itself and making faster science fact for all!  Explode on this!!!
> Dana Niswonger
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