Re: headphones adaptor

2004-11-13 Thread Geoff Eden
Yes, it's possible that each of the input devices might see each other as a
short, or at least having unacceptably high resistance.  Even if only one is
on at a time, the resistance of the out-put of the unused device may be too
high.  I've seen little amplifier chips cooked this way as they are often
configured as a current pump and will over-heat.  I've also seen the rules
broken and every thing work fine.  So you're on your own.

Geoff

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I was told by one of our electronics stores that connecting two stereo
units to one stereo set of headphones with a simple Y-adaptor is not
feasible. I couldn't say why, and I do not know how true this information
is.

Bruce

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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, kevin and emma wrote:

> thanks to all for their suggestions! i'll be following up all usggestions.
> email or msn
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> cheers - kevin
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> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:10 PM
> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
>
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> It is worth contacting Hagger Electronics because if they don't have one
> of
>> these leadfs on the shelf, they will make one up for you to any length
and
> be
>> able to advise you on the matter of any impedance mismatch or not as the
> case
>> might be. Please see details below.
>>
>> Hagger Electronics,
>> Unit 22,
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>> Behalf Of Caroline Ford
>> Sent: 08 November 2004 20:54
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: RE: headphones adaptor
>>
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> The RNIB used to sell an adaptor which would allow you to connect one
pair
> of
>> headphones to two devices so that the output of one came out of the
> left-hand
>> side and the output of the other came out of the right.  I used to have
> one
>> several years ago.  I don't know if they still sell them, but it might be
> worth
>> giving them a ring if you can't find one anywhere else.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Caroline.
>>
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>> Subject: headphones adaptor
>>
>>
>> sorry for cross posting but this is driving me mad! okay i have a small
> adaptor
>> which allows me to connect 2 pairs of headphones to one audio device.
what
> i'm
>> looking for is something to do the opposite, namely connect 2 audio
> devices to
>> one pair of headphones. can anyone tell me if such a thing exists? and
> where i
>> might find one? even what it might be called would help! email or msn
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Fwd: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Steve Pattison
*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
nullsoft
company?  amazing! just amazing!

If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
does
one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
this.
something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.

... goodness, one more thing! .

>From an article on the Betanews site:
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
By
Nate Mook
, BetaNews
November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
and
the door
has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
audio
player with
minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
\
Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
say
the software
has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
Winamp creator
Justin Frankel last January.
The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
AOL
acquired
the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
Winamp developers
was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
rebellion.
Although
Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
the
two ideologies
collided.
Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and
bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
fellow
Nullsoft
developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
system, dubbed
Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
Gnutella was unveiled
in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
feared
the program
would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
merger with
Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
software's
source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
a
peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.
But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
the
freely available
Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
but
always
escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
unsanctioned
release of WASTE
-- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
threatened
to resign
after AOL
removed WASTE
, but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
San
Francisco
offices in December 2003.
With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
700 additional layoffs
planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
supporting acquisitions
such as Winamp.
Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
their accomplishments.
Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
60
million
users per month.
After a disappointing
Winamp3
, Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
long-standing goals
with the release of
Winamp 5.0
in late 2003.
Nullsoft's
Shoutcast
, which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
Net's
best secret"
by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
accounting for
70 million hours of listening each month.
For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
thriving
product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
software, Winamp
seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
Sonique
, after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
stagnated for
years, and development ceased altogether last March.
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whatever remains, however improbable,
must be the truth.
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Re: cdex help needed

2004-11-13 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Alan.

Don't know quite how far you've got with selecting your output folder but
suspect you can't get it to allow you to browse your hard drive?

To select a folder do the following when you've located the file name tab:
1.  Tab to the control that says output file format WAV>MP3.
2.  Press enter to open the browse dialogue.  Now just select the folder you
want for your files to be ripped to by locating the folder and pressing
right arrow key to open it up.
3.  Tab to ok and press enter.
4.  Now tab to the next control which says output file format recorded
tracks.
5.  Press enter to open the dialogue and follow the steps as for the WAV>MP3
folder.
6.  Tab to the ok button and press enter to close the settings dialogue.

With regards to the M3U & PLS playlist options, as I understand it, CDEX can
create a playlist for you automatically when you rip the tracks so that you
can then use the playlist in winamp or another player.  I leave these
unchecked as I don't really want CDEX to create playlists for me
automatically.

Kevin
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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:53 AM
Subject: cdex help needed


> Hi friends,after resolvind the aspi manager quandery,thanks to this List
,I
>  have encounted my   first querie, with cd.ex 150.After activating the
> Program with ,f 4 then going to File tab,  1.I am directored to choose a
> folder to hold the ripped tracks,I am sure it is very simpple but I just
> cant get it right!,2. choice of Play Lists,m3u and pls,which box do I
check
> and why?.I would appreciate any help,thank  you in an ticipation.Alan
>
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Speakers With Two Inputs

2004-11-13 Thread Tom
A few days ago someone asked about feeding two output sources 
into one speaker system.  Here is some information about a 
speaker system that actually has two inputs so you can feed 
two different sources into them without possibly causing damage.

Behringer MS16
List Price: $69.99

2 WAY COMPACT ACTIVE MONITOR SYSTEM-PAIR.

The Behringer MS16 is a compact 2-way stereo speaker system 
for home studio or multimedia applications and instrument or 
vocal monitoring. Two high-power amplifiers drive the 4" 
woofers and the high-resolution tweeters. The front-mounted 
volume control and individual bass and treble controls make 
accurate sound adjustments a breeze. Two stereo line inputs 
(RCA and 1/8" TRS) allow simultaneous use of two stereo 
sources, so you can play back CDs, MDs or MP3s and use an 
electric guitar/keyboard at the same time. In addition, the 
1/4" TRS microphone input lets you mix vocals with a stereo 
track.

Features:

• Dedicated volume, bass and treble controls for more 
flexibility.

• Stereo RCA inputs for sound cards, keyboards etc. that can 
be used simultaneously with second stereo source (e.g. CD/MD 
player) through 1/8" TRS stereo input.

• Separately adjustable 1/4" TRS microphone input mixable 
with stereo inputs for playback and vocal monitoring 
applications.

• 1/8" TRS headphone connector with convenient auto-mute 
loudspeaker function.

• Magnetically shielded for placement near computer monitors.


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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread russell Bourgoin
One advantage to having one of these is that it doesn't connect via usb 
interface, therebye making it possible to plug it into an mp3 player, an 
otis, a nuvo, a computer, etc, etc.

Rusty
Does anyone know the output power of the transmitter?  For example, the C 
Crane device is about 20 milliwatts, and Veronica about 50 milliwatts.

Jim
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Re: Need Help In Making Windows Media Play The Stream

2004-11-13 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello Kevin..and list:  After poking around in IE..and in that "tool bar"
that WSM was giving me, I somehow got the thing to play in "Windows
Media"..just as I wanted!  Thing is..I can't really explain how I did it!
The main thing is..it works now thae way I want it to!  Thanks for
everyone's endulgance and patience.
Tom Kaufman


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Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they 
stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if we 
can use it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp


*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
nullsoft
company?  amazing! just amazing!
If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
does
one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
this.
something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
... goodness, one more thing! .
From an article on the Betanews site:
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
By
Nate Mook
, BetaNews
November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
and
the door
has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
audio
player with
minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
\
Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
say
the software
has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
Winamp creator
Justin Frankel last January.
The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
AOL
acquired
the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
Winamp developers
was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
rebellion.
Although
Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
the
two ideologies
collided.
Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and
bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
fellow
Nullsoft
developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
system, dubbed
Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
Gnutella was unveiled
in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
feared
the program
would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
merger with
Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
software's
source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
a
peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.
But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
the
freely available
Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
but
always
escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
unsanctioned
release of WASTE
-- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
threatened
to resign
after AOL
removed WASTE
, but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
San
Francisco
offices in December 2003.
With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
700 additional layoffs
planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
supporting acquisitions
such as Winamp.
Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
their accomplishments.
Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
60
million
users per month.
After a disappointing
Winamp3
, Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
long-standing goals
with the release of
Winamp 5.0
in late 2003.
Nullsoft's
Shoutcast
, which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
Net's
best secret"
by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
accounting for
70 million hours of listening each month.
For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
thriving
product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
software, Winamp
seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
Sonique
, after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
stagnated for
years, and development ceased altogether last March.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When you have eliminated the impossible.
whatever remains, however improbable,
must be the truth.
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread shannon work
I am very interested in this type of product. I have a concern though. How
problematic is this type of equipment in an apartment setting where all my
neighbors are within 200 ft of the computer?
Will the whole building be able to hear my computer?
Shannon
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:36 PM
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> you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
> conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
> transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio
within
> a 150 feet range.
>
> marco.
>
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> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> Hi,
> Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
> In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
> and hear it that way?
> Thanks.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> > it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
> get
> > it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
> >
> > marco.
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Geoff Eden
Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream to
analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.

Geoff

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To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio within
a 150 feet range.

marco.

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Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


Hi,
Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
and hear it that way?
Thanks.

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To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
get
> it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
>
> marco.
>
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Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Marty Rimpau
Hi, Gary, just because development may stop on winamp, doesn't mean we
have to stop using it, the same thing has happened to my email program,
and I will still use it no matter what.  
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:26:09 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:

>It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they 
>stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if we 
>can use it.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
>Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp
>
>
>> *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
>> On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
>> nullsoft
>> company?  amazing! just amazing!
>>
>> If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
>> does
>> one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
>> company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
>> this.
>> something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
>>
>> ... goodness, one more thing! .
>>
>>>From an article on the Betanews site:
>> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
>> By
>> Nate Mook
>> , BetaNews
>> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
>> The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
>> and
>> the door
>> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
>> Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
>> audio
>> player with
>> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
>> \
>> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
>> say
>> the software
>> has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
>> Winamp creator
>> Justin Frankel last January.
>> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
>> AOL
>> acquired
>> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
>> Winamp developers
>> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
>> rebellion.
>> Although
>> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
>> the
>> two ideologies
>> collided.
>> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
>> coffee and
>> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
>> fellow
>> Nullsoft
>> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
>> system, dubbed
>> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
>> Gnutella was unveiled
>> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
>> feared
>> the program
>> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
>> merger with
>> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
>> software's
>> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
>> a
>> peer-to-peer
>> land grab that has yet to subside.
>> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
>> the
>> freely available
>> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
>> but
>> always
>> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
>> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
>> unsanctioned
>> release of WASTE
>> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
>> threatened
>> to resign
>> after AOL
>> removed WASTE
>> , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
>> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
>> San
>> Francisco
>> offices in December 2003.
>> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
>> 700 additional layoffs
>> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
>> supporting acquisitions
>> such as Winamp.
>> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
>> their accomplishments.
>> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
>> 60
>> million
>> users per month.
>> After a disappointing
>> Winamp3
>> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
>> long-standing goals
>> with the release of
>> Winamp 5.0
>> in late 2003.
>> Nullsoft's
>> Shoutcast
>> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
>> Net's
>> best secret"
>> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
>> accounting for
>> 70 million hours of listening each month.
>> For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
>> thriving
>> product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
>> But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
>> software, Winamp
>> seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
>> Sonique
>> , after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
>> stagnated for
>> years, and development ceased altoge

Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread ptusing
Are people writing AOL?
I am serious..  I was amazed during oneo f the Nine Eleven fundraisers
hosted by AOL that oone of their  telephone volunteers knew all about the
legitimate compalints by blind people about AOL.
I am willing to write and  call on this issue.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


> It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they
> stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if
we
> can use it.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
> Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp
>
>
> > *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
> > On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
> > nullsoft
> > company?  amazing! just amazing!
> >
> > If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
> > does
> > one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
> > company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
> > this.
> > something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
> >
> > ... goodness, one more thing! .
> >
> >>From an article on the Betanews site:
> > Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
> > By
> > Nate Mook
> > , BetaNews
> > November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
> > The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
> > and
> > the door
> > has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
> > Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
> > audio
> > player with
> > minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
> > \
> > Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
> > say
> > the software
> > has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
> > Winamp creator
> > Justin Frankel last January.
> > The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
> > AOL
> > acquired
> > the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
> > Winamp developers
> > was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
> > rebellion.
> > Although
> > Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
> > the
> > two ideologies
> > collided.
> > Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
> > coffee and
> > bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
> > fellow
> > Nullsoft
> > developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
> > system, dubbed
> > Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
> > Gnutella was unveiled
> > in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
> > feared
> > the program
> > would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
> > merger with
> > Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
> > software's
> > source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
> > a
> > peer-to-peer
> > land grab that has yet to subside.
> > But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
> > the
> > freely available
> > Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
> > but
> > always
> > escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
> > However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
> > unsanctioned
> > release of WASTE
> > -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
> > threatened
> > to resign
> > after AOL
> > removed WASTE
> > , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
> > Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
> > San
> > Francisco
> > offices in December 2003.
> > With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
> > 700 additional layoffs
> > planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
> > supporting acquisitions
> > such as Winamp.
> > Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
> > their accomplishments.
> > Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
> > 60
> > million
> > users per month.
> > After a disappointing
> > Winamp3
> > , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
> > long-standing goals
> > with the release of
> > Winamp 5.0
> > in late 2003.
> > Nullsoft's
> > Shoutcast
> > , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
> > Net's
> > best secret"
> > by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
> > accounting for
> > 70 million hours of listening each month.
> > For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
> > thriving
> > prod

Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Marty.  That's what I plan on doing.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marty Rimpau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


Hi, Gary, just because development may stop on winamp, doesn't mean we
have to stop using it, the same thing has happened to my email program,
and I will still use it no matter what.
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:26:09 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they
stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if 
we
can use it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp


*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
nullsoft
company?  amazing! just amazing!
If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
does
one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
this.
something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
... goodness, one more thing! .
From an article on the Betanews site:
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
By
Nate Mook
, BetaNews
November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
and
the door
has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
audio
player with
minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
\
Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
say
the software
has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
Winamp creator
Justin Frankel last January.
The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
AOL
acquired
the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
Winamp developers
was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
rebellion.
Although
Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
the
two ideologies
collided.
Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and
bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
fellow
Nullsoft
developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
system, dubbed
Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
Gnutella was unveiled
in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
feared
the program
would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
merger with
Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
software's
source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
a
peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.
But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
the
freely available
Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
but
always
escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
unsanctioned
release of WASTE
-- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
threatened
to resign
after AOL
removed WASTE
, but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
San
Francisco
offices in December 2003.
With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
700 additional layoffs
planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
supporting acquisitions
such as Winamp.
Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
their accomplishments.
Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
60
million
users per month.
After a disappointing
Winamp3
, Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
long-standing goals
with the release of
Winamp 5.0
in late 2003.
Nullsoft's
Shoutcast
, which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
Net's
best secret"
by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
accounting for
70 million hours of listening each month.
For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
thriving
product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
software, Winamp
seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
Sonique
, after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
stagnated for
years, and development ceased altogether last March.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When you have eliminated the impossible.
whatever remains, however improbable,
must be the truth.
***

Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
It may be a good idea to write AOL, but as Marty stated, even if they don't 
make future versions of Winamp, we can still get the benefits of using the 
latest versions we have now.
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


   Are people writing AOL?
I am serious..  I was amazed during oneo f the Nine Eleven fundraisers
hosted by AOL that oone of their  telephone volunteers knew all about the
legitimate compalints by blind people about AOL.
I am willing to write and  call on this issue.
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If 
they
stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if
we
can use it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp

> *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
> On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
> nullsoft
> company?  amazing! just amazing!
>
> If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
> does
> one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
> company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
> this.
> something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
>
> ... goodness, one more thing! .
>
>>From an article on the Betanews site:
> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
> By
> Nate Mook
> , BetaNews
> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
> The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
> and
> the door
> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
> Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
> audio
> player with
> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
> \
> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
> say
> the software
> has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
> Winamp creator
> Justin Frankel last January.
> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
> AOL
> acquired
> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
> Winamp developers
> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
> rebellion.
> Although
> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
> the
> two ideologies
> collided.
> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
> coffee and
> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
> fellow
> Nullsoft
> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
> system, dubbed
> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
> Gnutella was unveiled
> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
> feared
> the program
> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
> merger with
> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
> software's
> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
> a
> peer-to-peer
> land grab that has yet to subside.
> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
> the
> freely available
> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
> but
> always
> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
> unsanctioned
> release of WASTE
> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
> threatened
> to resign
> after AOL
> removed WASTE
> , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
> San
> Francisco
> offices in December 2003.
> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
> 700 additional layoffs
> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
> supporting acquisitions
> such as Winamp.
> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
> their accomplishments.
> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
> 60
> million
> users per month.
> After a disappointing
> Winamp3
> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
> long-standing goals
> with the release of
> Winamp 5.0
> in late 2003.
> Nullsoft's
> Shoutcast
> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
> Net's
> best secret"
> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
> accounting for
> 70 million hours o

Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread RQJ
Hi Shannon,
That is a very legitimate concern.
While it is possible, it may not be probable, because the frequencies being
used by the transmitter,
are selected to fall between the commercial broadcast frequencies.
And I have found that if the transmitter is set to a frequency on the low
band, most of the commercial broadcasts in that range are usually public
radio, and smaller stations.
However, you can lessen your concern by looking for a transmitter with a
much shorter range.
Who will hear your transmission, will be determined by what stations your
neighbors listen to.
In your particular situation, if you do acquire a transmitter, I would not
share that imformation with the neighbors.
Some might choose to seek out the frequency you are using.
I'm not trying to put a scare into you, or talk you out of getting a
transmitter,
I am just looking at possible problems that can occur in this not so safe
world we live in today.
I would look around for a transmitter with a shorter range, taking into
consideration, the size of your apartment,
and the fact that when a signal has to passthru any obstructions, this will
diminish the range slightly.
HTH,
Richard Justice
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> I am very interested in this type of product. I have a concern though. How
> problematic is this type of equipment in an apartment setting where all my
> neighbors are within 200 ft of the computer?
> Will the whole building be able to hear my computer?
> Shannon
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:36 PM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> > you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
> > conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
> > transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio
> within
> > a 150 feet range.
> >
> > marco.
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
> > In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a
stereo
> > and hear it that way?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
> >
> >
> > > it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you
can
> > get
> > > it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
> > >
> > > marco.
> > >
> > >
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Info on Iriver H320

2004-11-13 Thread Bruce Toews
If anyone has information on the Iriver h320 from a blind person's 
perspective, I'd really appreciate it. I just can't afford to throw that 
kind of money down on a player that won't be accessible for me. What I 
want to know is:

1. How is navigating between files? Touch pad or real buttons? Are there a 
lot of modes and menus that will confuse us?

2. Can one do voice recordings without sighted assistance?
3. One thing I've often wondered about HD-based machines is how fragile 
are they? For example, if I take the unit on a bus, does the unit get 
destroyed the first time the bus hits a bump in the road?

Bruce
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Re: CD Recorder

2004-11-13 Thread nick G
If you do insist on using CD's, you can get the LiteOn LVR1001, a little 
dual CD deck I find very cool.  One of the great features is one-touch 
copying.  You can copy a CD using this deck and it is virtually error-proof. 
I'd have a lot of trouble reviewing it for Main Menu, simply because of it's 
location.  We do have a computer down there now, so I just might do it.
HTH,
Nick
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From: "Michael Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 2:03 AM
Subject: Re: CD Recorder


Perhaps a Minidisc deck would be even better. With an MD deck, one can
set and delete trackmarks as often as one wants to. With a CD recorder,
one can only set trackmarks once while recording.

   <*** Michael Lang ***>

You wrote:

> Is there such a beast ie. an appliance that can be connected say to a tape 
> deck and record direct to a cdr disc?
> If such a recorder does exist, will it cost some small portion of the 
> national debt topurchase?
> Cheers
> Andrea
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Re: Info on Iriver H320

2004-11-13 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

I can only partly answer one of your questions.  That is, how robust the HD
players are?  Well, I have the creative jukebox 2 and have used it on the
bus, on the train and during transatlantic and domestic european flights.
I've also caught it a couple of times on door handles and the like as I've
walked around the house and none of these have caused the player to skip at
all.  I find it a lot smoother in operation than the previous CD MP3 player
that I previously owned.

Kevin
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From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: Info on Iriver H320


> If anyone has information on the Iriver h320 from a blind person's
> perspective, I'd really appreciate it. I just can't afford to throw that
> kind of money down on a player that won't be accessible for me. What I
> want to know is:
>
> 1. How is navigating between files? Touch pad or real buttons? Are there a
> lot of modes and menus that will confuse us?
>
> 2. Can one do voice recordings without sighted assistance?
>
> 3. One thing I've often wondered about HD-based machines is how fragile
> are they? For example, if I take the unit on a bus, does the unit get
> destroyed the first time the bus hits a bump in the road?
>
> Bruce
>
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Tim Grady
It just needs a D/A converter, just like a CD player.
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Eden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream to
analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.
Geoff
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From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio 
within
a 150 feet range.

marco.
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Hi,
Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
and hear it that way?
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
get
it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
marco.
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Re: real player and total professional problem

2004-11-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
that's interesting george. let me know if you manage to fix the problem. i 
still have no idea why the problem existed in the first place.

marco.

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ah good, I tried it last night and I had some trouble, but I haven't tried
it again since.
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> well, i re installed real player 10 and that seems to have fixed my
> scheduling dilemma.
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Re: CD Recorder

2004-11-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
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In theory that's fine but too bad if you wanted to edit something, I mean
computers and associated CD-RW'S are dirt cheap these days that you may as well
build something dedicated to recording.
I believe that their are computers around now that are quite powerful and about
the size of a shoe-box, I've heard of people using them for audio/video
recording and editing.
At 12:50 PM 11/13/2004, you wrote:
Well what I imagined I could do was to have a stand-alone device that I could
use to record cassettes to cdr discs away from the computer.
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Andrea - Run a cable from the Output of the tape deck
to the Line In on your computer. Use the Record
function of a program named Media Jukebox to record
the sound and put it on your harddrive.
What I use is a homebuilt mixer that I run to the Line
In. That way I can hookup six different devices, and
use whichever one I choose.
Guy Mallard
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Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
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It will be interesting to see what may happen to the Shoutcast servers, will
ACBI be affected for instance?
At 04:18 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote:
Hi, Gary, just because development may stop on winamp, doesn't mean we
have to stop using it, the same thing has happened to my email program,
and I will still use it no matter what.
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:26:09 -0500, Gary Wood wrote:
>It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they
>stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if we
>can use it.
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>
>
>> *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
>> On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
>> nullsoft
>> company?  amazing! just amazing!
>>
>> If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
>> does
>> one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
>> company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
>> this.
>> something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
>>
>> ... goodness, one more thing! .
>>
>>>From an article on the Betanews site:
>> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
>> By
>> Nate Mook
>> , BetaNews
>> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
>> The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
>> and
>> the door
>> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
>> Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
>> audio
>> player with
>> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
>> \
>> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
>> say
>> the software
>> has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
>> Winamp creator
>> Justin Frankel last January.
>> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
>> AOL
>> acquired
>> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
>> Winamp developers
>> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
>> rebellion.
>> Although
>> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
>> the
>> two ideologies
>> collided.
>> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
>> coffee and
>> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
>> fellow
>> Nullsoft
>> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
>> system, dubbed
>> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
>> Gnutella was unveiled
>> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
>> feared
>> the program
>> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
>> merger with
>> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
>> software's
>> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
>> a
>> peer-to-peer
>> land grab that has yet to subside.
>> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
>> the
>> freely available
>> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
>> but
>> always
>> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
>> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
>> unsanctioned
>> release of WASTE
>> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
>> threatened
>> to resign
>> after AOL
>> removed WASTE
>> , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
>> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
>> San
>> Francisco
>> offices in December 2003.
>> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
>> 700 additional layoffs
>> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
>> supporting acquisitions
>> such as Winamp.
>> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
>> their accomplishments.
>> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
>> 60
>> million
>> users per month.
>> After a disappointing
>> Winamp3
>> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
>> long-standing goals
>> with the release of
>> Winamp 5.0
>> in late 2003.
>> Nullsoft's
>> Shoutcast
>> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
>> Net's
>> best secret"
>> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
>> accounting for
>> 70 million hours of listening each month.
>> For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
>> thriving
>> product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
>> But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
>> software, Winamp
>> seems destined to

MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
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be no larger than 1.8 gig (about 3 hours of recording time)).  It should be
noted however that not all software seem to follow this rule.  I've managed to
record more than 15 hours of audio with Sound Forge by saving the file to a
.PCA (Perfect Clarity Audio) file.  Sony state that this format is a Lossless
Compression and (if this is indeed the case), no quality should be lost when
saving to the file, opening the file for further editing saving the file to
different formats when editing is complete etc.
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
more than likely shannon. just make sure that you tune the transmitter into 
a frequency between 106.3 and 107.9 that's not occupied by another station 
and all will be well, unless your concern is that your neighbours will hear 
your audio output.

marco.

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I am very interested in this type of product. I have a concern though. How
problematic is this type of equipment in an apartment setting where all my
neighbors are within 200 ft of the computer?
Will the whole building be able to hear my computer?
Shannon
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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
> conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
> transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio
within
> a 150 feet range.
>
> marco.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> Hi,
> Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
> In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
> and hear it that way?
> Thanks.
>
> - Original Message - 
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> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> > it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
> get
> > it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
> >
> > marco.
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Re: CD Recorder

2004-11-13 Thread Kevin Shields
Yes that's true, I've been in to the mini disk format for 8 years and I
love it.  I don't have the latest equipment, but I do have the home and
portable models that play the standard mini disk format, plus LP2 which
plays for 3 hours on an 80 minute mini disk, and LP4 which plays for 6
hours on an 80 minute mini disk.  And the models are, the Sony MDSJE480,
that's the home model, the Sony 505 the portable model.  And I even have
an MZR90 portable.  It only plays the standard formatMini disks.  We use
mini disks for recording our programs we play at KRCC.
Take care,
Kevin On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 08:03:47 +0100 Michael Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Perhaps a Minidisc deck would be even better. With an MD deck, one 
> can
> set and delete trackmarks as often as one wants to. With a CD 
> recorder,
> one can only set trackmarks once while recording.
> 
><*** Michael Lang ***>
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> > Is there such a beast ie. an appliance that can be connected say 
> to a tape deck and record direct to a cdr disc?
> > If such a recorder does exist, will it cost some small portion of 
> the national debt topurchase?
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Re: Newest version of Nero

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I see what happened.  When I went to the Ahead homepage, and used the link 
to the store, the Ultra edition showed up, not Nero, itself.  That's not 
$39.  

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That's the price I paid 2 days ago.  Check out the pricing details below:
and here's the link
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just click on the link that says onlineshop and you'll enter the secure
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That's not the price I saw.  What site did you see this on?
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> Hi.
>
> If you upgrade from nero 5.5 to 6.6 and choose the downloadable version
> rather than have a CD shipped, the cost is $39.99 or £22 UK currency.
>
> There is no significant difference in the interface and it is very
> accessible with JAWS.
>
> Kevin
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>
>
>> Jim,
>> I don't think it's free. I seem to remember people saying they had to
pay
>> for it. I'm sticking with 5.5 for now. I don't feel like having to
learn
>> a new interface. How's the job going? Also did you get an answer from
>> Cathy Anne on your Excell question. I can't help you there, for I've
>> never learned that program.
>> Take care,
>> New Jersey Josh.
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:40:00 -0500 Jim Elsner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> > Thanks,
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
that's correct geoff.

marco.

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Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream to
analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.

Geoff

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Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio within
a 150 feet range.

marco.

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Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


Hi,
Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
and hear it that way?
Thanks.

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Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
get
> it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
>
> marco.
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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Brian Olesen
   Hi,
That's not true at all.
The 2 giga byte lies in the limitation of the fat32 file system and not 
something Microsoft has invented.
If you're using ntfs you don't have such a limitation.

Best regards
Brian 

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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, you could also use the Sony format of .w64 files. This is what I use
for recordings which start out long, but that I trim down later.
Thanks a lot.
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Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Rocker
Ya!  And what if they take the Library away?

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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they
stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if we
can use it.
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp


> *** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
> On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
> nullsoft
> company?  amazing! just amazing!
>
> If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
> does
> one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
> company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
> this.
> something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
>
> ... goodness, one more thing! .
>
>>From an article on the Betanews site:
> Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
> By
> Nate Mook
> , BetaNews
> November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
> The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
> and
> the door
> has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
> Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
> audio
> player with
> minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
> \
> Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
> say
> the software
> has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
> Winamp creator
> Justin Frankel last January.
> The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
> AOL
> acquired
> the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
> Winamp developers
> was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
> rebellion.
> Although
> Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
> the
> two ideologies
> collided.
> Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
> coffee and
> bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
> fellow
> Nullsoft
> developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
> system, dubbed
> Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
> Gnutella was unveiled
> in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
> feared
> the program
> would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
> merger with
> Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
> software's
> source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
> a
> peer-to-peer
> land grab that has yet to subside.
> But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
> the
> freely available
> Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
> but
> always
> escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
> However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
> unsanctioned
> release of WASTE
> -- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
> threatened
> to resign
> after AOL
> removed WASTE
> , but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
> Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
> San
> Francisco
> offices in December 2003.
> With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
> 700 additional layoffs
> planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
> supporting acquisitions
> such as Winamp.
> Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
> their accomplishments.
> Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
> 60
> million
> users per month.
> After a disappointing
> Winamp3
> , Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
> long-standing goals
> with the release of
> Winamp 5.0
> in late 2003.
> Nullsoft's
> Shoutcast
> , which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
> Net's
> best secret"
> by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
> accounting for
> 70 million hours of listening each month.
> For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
> thriving
> product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
> But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
> software, Winamp
> seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
> Sonique
> , after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
> stagnated for
> years, and development ceased altogether last March.
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> whatever remains, however improbable,
> m

Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, my hard disc is formatted with ntfs, and I still can't save .wav
files over a certain length. I think it's about 4 gigs. I think it's a
limitation of the .wav file format.
Thanks a lot.
Matthew

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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi Matthew,
Whitch program are you using? Could you please tell me how producers make 
dvd movies of 9 GB if such a limit exists in the file format?

Best regards
Brian 

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Fwd: news about cqphone

2004-11-13 Thread Steve Pattison
*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 13/11/2004 at 10:25 PM Tanja Heidmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi all, it seems that that cqphone (you can get it at
www.cqphone.com)
is somewhat usable. Your num block must be "on" and then you can hit
the
seven digit number and then it will ring. But I don#t know yet what you
do
to answer. When the programme is open and you hit esc, you get a beep
sign
and then you can start typing the number. You gotta know the user's
number
to call them.
Bye for now,
Tanja

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I can stand up once again.
On my own,
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that I'm strong enough to mend. -- Mariah Carey
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Removing music from a recording

2004-11-13 Thread Ann
Hi folks,

I know that there are programs that will remove vocals so that all you are
able to hear is the music. But, is there a program that will do the
opposite, remove the musical part of a recording so all you get is the
vocals? Just curious to see if this can be done, and what programs might be
able to do it.

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Re: Removing music from a recording

2004-11-13 Thread Bruce Toews
Removing vocals is not an exact science, and the best vocal "remover" will 
only work nominally. I imagine that the same is true for what you're 
after.

Bruce
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Ann wrote:
Hi folks,
I know that there are programs that will remove vocals so that all you are
able to hear is the music. But, is there a program that will do the
opposite, remove the musical part of a recording so all you get is the
vocals? Just curious to see if this can be done, and what programs might be
able to do it.
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converting a .ra file to .mp3

2004-11-13 Thread Randy Tijerina
Hi friends. What are soem good programs to convert .ra files or .ram files to 
.mp3?
i have GoldWave at the moment. Would that be a good program?
thanks. randy
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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
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Sorry mate! I suggest you check your facts again.
I'm using NTFS here as I'm using Windows XP and the same limit of 1.8 gig to a
Microsoft wave file applies.
I just confirmed this by copying 6 hours worth of data into Sound Forge and
tried to save it as a Microsoft wave file and it didn't work, had no trouble!
saving it as a Sony wave file, Sony PCA file etc so the Microsoft Wave size
limit still applies though the statement you made regarding file limits being
relaxed under NTFS as compared to FAT32 is certainly the case.
At 09:25 AM 11/14/2004, you wrote:
   Hi,
That's not true at all.
The 2 giga byte lies in the limitation of the fat32 file system and not
something Microsoft has invented.
If you're using ntfs you don't have such a limitation.
Best regards
Brian
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Changes in Easy CD DA Extractor 7.5

2004-11-13 Thread Steve Pattison
A couple of days ago I mentioned that Easy CD DA Extractor 7.5 is
available from www.poikosoft.com.  I now have the changes in this
version and they are listed below:

Improved user interface
Improved Audio CD burning
Support for Cue Sheets
Support for Nero AAC encoder (mp4 and m4a formats)
The integrated ASPI is now Windows 2003 compatible

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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread chris ramsay
what do i search for on e bay is there a model number or product 
name?  chris

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream to
> analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.
>
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
> conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
> transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio 
> within
> a 150 feet range.
>
> marco.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> Hi,
> Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
> In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
> and hear it that way?
> Thanks.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
>> it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
> get
>> it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
>>
>> marco.
>>
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Skype Version 1.0.0.100 is now Available

2004-11-13 Thread Steve Pattison
Skype version 1.0.0.100 is now available from www.skype.com.  Here are
the changes in this version:

bugfix: internal data handling fix
bugfix: buffer overflow fix

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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
Then can you get more on a CD, perhaps, using Perfect Clarity Audio than 
with just a plain audio wave file for making CD's?
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE


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Greetings!
One of the problems I've always encountered when wishing to make long
recordings (anything over 3 hours) with Sound Forge was the size limit of 
any
wave files that were generated (according to Microsoft specs, a wave file 
can
be no larger than 1.8 gig (about 3 hours of recording time)).  It should 
be
noted however that not all software seem to follow this rule.  I've 
managed to
record more than 15 hours of audio with Sound Forge by saving the file to 
a
.PCA (Perfect Clarity Audio) file.  Sony state that this format is a 
Lossless
Compression and (if this is indeed the case), no quality should be lost 
when
saving to the file, opening the file for further editing saving the file 
to
different formats when editing is complete etc.

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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Dane.  15 hours is a long recording.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE


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Greetings!
One of the problems I've always encountered when wishing to make long
recordings (anything over 3 hours) with Sound Forge was the size limit of 
any
wave files that were generated (according to Microsoft specs, a wave file 
can
be no larger than 1.8 gig (about 3 hours of recording time)).  It should 
be
noted however that not all software seem to follow this rule.  I've 
managed to
record more than 15 hours of audio with Sound Forge by saving the file to 
a
.PCA (Perfect Clarity Audio) file.  Sony state that this format is a 
Lossless
Compression and (if this is indeed the case), no quality should be lost 
when
saving to the file, opening the file for further editing saving the file 
to
different formats when editing is complete etc.

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Re: The Future of Winamp

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
Well that would be too bad if they, in fact, were to take the library away.
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp


Ya!  And what if they take the Library away?
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From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: The Future of Winamp

It's too bad this is happening to one of the best players around.  If they
stop development of Winamp, we'll just have to keep the one we've got, if 
we
can use it.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:39 AM
Subject: Fwd: The Future of Winamp


*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE  ***
On 11/11/2004 at 3:44 PM geoff chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
check this out, AOL pays 100 million dollars for this one little
nullsoft
company?  amazing! just amazing!
If anyone would like to educate me as to how one little program that
does
one little job, could possibly become worth, such a huge figure to one
company to pay, to acquire another, I'd reeally love to understand
this.
something about the world I just don't get here yet obviously.
... goodness, one more thing! .
From an article on the Betanews site:
Death Knell Sounds for Nullsoft, Winamp
By
Nate Mook
, BetaNews
November 10, 2004, 1:26 PM
The last members of the original Winamp team have said goodbye to AOL
and
the door
has all but shut on the Nullsoft era, BetaNews has learned.
Only a few employees remain to prop up the once-ubiquitous digital
audio
player with
minor updates, but no further improvements to Winamp are expected.
\
Winamp's demise comes as no surprise to those close to the company who
say
the software
has been on life support since the resignation of Nullsoft founder and
Winamp creator
Justin Frankel last January.
The marriage of Nullsoft and AOL was always one of discontent. After
AOL
acquired
the small company in 1999 for around $100 million, the young team of
Winamp developers
was assimilated into a strict corporate culture that begged for
rebellion.
Although
Nullsoft was initially given a long leash by AOL, It wasn't long until
the
two ideologies
collided.
Frankel and his team were accustomed to simply brainstorming ideas over
coffee and
bringing them to the masses without approval. So when Frankel and
fellow
Nullsoft
developer Tom Pepper devised a decentralized peer-to-peer file sharing
system, dubbed
Gnutella, parent AOL was left in the dark.
Gnutella was unveiled
in March 2000, much to the chagrin of an unprepared AOL; executives
feared
the program
would encourage copyright infringement and damage the company's pending
merger with
Time Warner. AOL quickly clamped down on Gnutella, but not before the
software's
source code leaked. Gnutella-based alternatives soon followed, igniting
a
peer-to-peer
land grab that has yet to subside.
But AOL knew it had to protect its investment and turn a profit from
the
freely available
Winamp. Frankel and crew found themselves in hot water numerous times,
but
always
escaped with little more than a proverbial slap on the wrist.
However, growing displeasure reached a boiling point with Nullsoft's
unsanctioned
release of WASTE
-- an encrypted file-sharing network -- in June 2003. Frankel
threatened
to resign
after AOL
removed WASTE
, but remained with the company long enough to finish Winamp 5.0.
Frankel's departure followed AOL layoffs and the closure of Nullsoft's
San
Francisco
offices in December 2003.
With AOL struggling to stave off declining subscriber numbers and
700 additional layoffs
planned for next month, the company's focus has shifted away from
supporting acquisitions
such as Winamp.
Despite the somber farewell, Nullsoft's former masterminds are proud of
their accomplishments.
Winamp helped start a digital audio revolution and boasts an incredible
60
million
users per month.
After a disappointing
Winamp3
, Nullsoft developers returned to the drawing board and completed
long-standing goals
with the release of
Winamp 5.0
in late 2003.
Nullsoft's
Shoutcast
, which pioneered audio streaming over the Internet, is called "the
Net's
best secret"
by its creator Tom Pepper and has reached 170,000 simultaneous users
accounting for
70 million hours of listening each month.
For its part, AOL says it remains committed to Winamp, stating it is "a
thriving
product that AOL continues to support and will continue to support."
But without those who poured their heart and soul into building the
software, Winamp
seems destined to meet a fate similar to fellow audio player
Sonique
, after Lycos saw the departure of its development team. Sonique has
stagnated for
years, and development ceased altogether last March.
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Re: Removing music from a recording

2004-11-13 Thread Gary Wood
I'm wondering why anyone would want to do that.
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Subject: Removing music from a recording


Hi folks,
I know that there are programs that will remove vocals so that all you are
able to hear is the music. But, is there a program that will do the
opposite, remove the musical part of a recording so all you get is the
vocals? Just curious to see if this can be done, and what programs might 
be
able to do it.

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USB digital fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
chris.

check out in ebay item # 5138165959.

marco.

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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread Marco Curralejo
chris.

in a previous message, i put some ebay numbers to search for within the text 
of my email. if you still have a copy of that, have a look under those 
numbers and the product should still be available. if you go to the search 
edit field and type in usb fm transmitter 3.0, you will find what you need. 
auction price at the moment is 1 cent with 6 days to go, buy it now price is 
$39.99 u.s.

marco.

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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


what do i search for on e bay is there a model number or product
name?  chris

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Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream to
> analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.
>
> Geoff
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
> conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
> transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio
> within
> a 150 feet range.
>
> marco.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
> Hi,
> Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
> In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
> and hear it that way?
> Thanks.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
>> it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
> get
>> it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
>>
>> marco.
>>
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Re: MAKING LONG RECORDINGS WITH SOUND FORGE

2004-11-13 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, it's a limit of .wav files only, and DVD's are not .wav files, but
even if they were, they put them into chapters anyhow so it would be
separate tracks.
Thanks a lot.
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Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter

2004-11-13 Thread chris ramsay
thanks marco. chris

- Original Message - 
From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter


> chris.
>
> in a previous message, i put some ebay numbers to search for within the 
> text
> of my email. if you still have a copy of that, have a look under those
> numbers and the product should still be available. if you go to the search
> edit field and type in usb fm transmitter 3.0, you will find what you 
> need.
> auction price at the moment is 1 cent with 6 days to go, buy it now price 
> is
> $39.99 u.s.
>
> marco.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "chris ramsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
>what do i search for on e bay is there a model number or product
> name?  chris
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geoff Eden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>
>
>> Then it must have a small audio card in it to decode the digital stream 
>> to
>> analogue, as it leaves your sound card out of the stream all together.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>>
>>
>> you sure can. in transmission wise, exactly the same as plugging a
>> conventional fm transmitter directly into your sound card, so music you
>> transmit will be transmitted directly from the USB port to any radio
>> within
>> a 150 feet range.
>>
>> marco.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Could explain from where and to where this transmitter transmits?
>> In other words could you transmit streaming media via the usb to a stereo
>> and hear it that way?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Marco Curralejo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: digital USB powered stereo fm transmitter
>>
>>
>>> it cost me $74 off ebay, but i believe if you look on ebay now, you can
>> get
>>> it as cheaply as $50 including postage.
>>>
>>> marco.
>>>
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