Re: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?

2004-05-01 Thread Bud Keith
hi jim,
yes, aol bought spinner, and what used to be a wonderful service is now 
just bait for aol.
live 365 has some wonderful stations, and if you become a preferred member 
for fifteen or twenty bucks, there are very few promos and no 
commercials.  i'm certain you could find quite a number of stations playing 
the sort of stuff you like.
you might also want to explore saga radio from england.  they have four 
stations, and i absolutely love primetime radio.
check out http://www.saga.co.uk/radio 

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BlindRadio.com - accessible online radio directory

2004-05-01 Thread Steve Pattison
From: Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: alt.comp.blind-users

We recently launched BlindRadio.com with the aim of offering free
accessibility to internet radio.
The site has links to over 4000 channels worldwide with everything from
dance to news to rock and is keyword searchable.

In designing it, we reviewed many sites and had the site tested by
various
internet users with a broad range of software. If you have any comments
please contact us directly via our feedback page or by the e-mail
address
supplied removing the underscore.

Thanks
Gerry
...
BlindRadio.com
Because Radio is for everybody
..

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Re: BlindRadio.com - accessible online radio directory

2004-05-01 Thread Christopher Maule-Oatway
Hello,

I tried logging on to this site and got error 403, telling me that I do not 
have permission to access the server.  How do I get this permission, please?

Regards,

Christopher

At 22:56 01/05/04 +1000, you wrote:

From: Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: alt.comp.blind-users
We recently launched BlindRadio.com with the aim of offering free
accessibility to internet radio.
The site has links to over 4000 channels worldwide with everything from
dance to news to rock and is keyword searchable.
In designing it, we reviewed many sites and had the site tested by
various
internet users with a broad range of software. If you have any comments
please contact us directly via our feedback page or by the e-mail
address
supplied removing the underscore.
Thanks
Gerry
...
BlindRadio.com
Because Radio is for everybody
..
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Re: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?

2004-05-01 Thread Rocker
Hi Jim,  Sounds like AOL is taking a page from MSN re the invasion of your
computer.  Anyway, Have you tried theWinamp library/radio?  you can find
just about anything on there to listen too.
cheers...rocker

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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:47 PM
Subject: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?


Hi folks,
I found out about Spinner.com months ago through Toonhead-online.com. I've
downloaded the Spinner.com plug-in for Winamp and I've been listening to
Spinner for quite a while now. One thing I liked about Spinner was that they
had an easy listening channel. My grandmother likes easy listening and I
turned the channel on for the two of us to go to sleep with. Last weekend, I
ran Winamp and got an error message saying that Winamp couldn't connect to
Spinner.com. I went to Spinner's web site and what came up wasn't anything
about Spinner, but a web site for ... Radio at Netscape. ? I thought to
myself, "Uh-oh. I'm a Microsoft Internet Explorer user. I don't think I'll
mess with Radio at Netscape since I don't use Netscape's web browser." I had
heard several years ago that Nullsoft, AOL and Netscape are under the same
umbrella if you will--part of the same company. I downloaded the Radio at
Netscape player from the site at Spinner.com and installed it. A song began
to play. Fine audio quality, but the program wasn't very accessible. I had
to route my PC cursor to my JAWS cursor and move around in the program to
find out what I could listen to. After 30 or so songs, a box pops up saying
"Are you still there? You've listened to 30 songs in a row," or something
like that. I have to click the OK button in order to hear more songs. I
Thought, "well this is silly." I had to leave for a while, so I exited the
program. I came back later and started Radio at Netscape again. This time,
the program said that a newer version of the program is available and would
I like to download and install it. I clicked "yes" and the newer version was
downloaded and installed. The newer version must still be in its beta stages
because the older version is the one people download from the Spinner.com
web site. The newer version is more accessible as at uses the user's default
web browser--in my case, Internet Explorer. But there are several things
about this newer version of Radio at Netscape that I strongly dislike. (1)
The newer version touts AOL for Broadband and Radio at AOL *all over the
place*. Not only was this newer version downloaded and installed, but a
small downloader for downloading AOL for Broadband software was installed on
my system. Icons named "Try AOL for Broadband" were placed on my desktop, in
my start menu, and in my favorites in Internet Explorer. Icon values for AOL
for Broadband were placed in the registry. Links for trying AOL for
Broadband were scattered all throughout the Radio at Netscape program. (2)
This newer version must not support Windows 95 and/or computers with not
that much memory. Currently I'm using a computer with Windows 95, 2 gigs of
hard drive space, 32 MB of RAM, Internet Explorer 5.5 and a cable modem. (Go
ahead, laugh. :-) Yes I am planning on upgrading to a fast XP desktop
computer in the next couple months when I get my tax money back.) Anyway,
the newer version of Radio at Netscape runs v-e-r-y s-l-o-w on my computer.
My computer chokes and gags on it. (3) And this is the thing I dislike the
most: Users of this newer version of Radio at Netscape are only allotted so
many minutes per day to listen to any of the channels on the service. When
users' times are all used up, they are given the message to join AOL so they
can listen to Radio at AOL where they'll be able to listen to channels
unlimited. Now I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous! I mean, is it just me, or
is AOL becoming just like Clear Channel? Well, that discussion is for
another time, another list, but anyway, I find that limitation to be another
one of AOL's desperate ways to bait in more AOL for Broadband victims--uh I
mean customers. Without hesitation, I uninstalled Radio at Netscape and
deleted any shortcuts, links and references to AOL for Broadband on my
system. Ee-gad.
Does anyone know where I can listen to easy listening music--the standards
like Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Nat King Cole, Barbra Streisand and, Doris
Day and others? If so, let me know on or off list. Thanks.
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Re: BlindRadio.com - accessible online radio directory

2004-05-01 Thread Bud Keith
At 10:29 AM 05/01/2004, you wrote:
Hello,

I tried logging on to this site and got error 403, telling me that I do 
not have permission to access the server.  How do I get this permission, 
please?
christopher,
i had no trouble at all.  i entered the url myself when i was out of 
email.  i hit the start key, r for run, and www.blindradio.com
good lubk 

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Re: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?

2004-05-01 Thread Jim Hunt
Hi Bud, thanks for the info on Live365.com and the England stations. I'll
definitely check them out.
Take care.
Jim


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Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?

2004-05-01 Thread Steven Hicks
Strange, not sure about that one then.
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?


> Steve - Doesn't seem to work for me, when I do CTRL V, JFW says "paste",
but
> when I look, the disk is blank!
>
> Andy
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steven Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?
>
>
> > Hello andy,
> >
> > you should be able to use the straightforward copy and paist commands to
> > copy the file to the blank CD.  It will copy the .MP3 file as a data
file
> > though and keep it in the same .MP3 format as far as I cam aware,
> >
> > Steve.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Andy Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?
> >
> >
> > > Hi all -
> > >
> > > Don't think I can do this, but would like clarification.
> > >
> > > Usual thing, I want to burn an MP3 from my HD on to a CDR. Will XP
allow
> > me
> > > to do this, I see it has a copy option in the file menu for my
DVD/CDRW
> > > drive, but am wondering if that's for copying standard audio disks. I
> have
> > > Pinaccle DVD/CD creation software on this system, but can't get it to
> burn
> > > for some reason, it just sits there, so was wondering if XP would do
the
> > > job?
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
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Re: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?

2004-05-01 Thread Jim Hunt
Wow. OK. :-) Thanks for the info on Winamp Library Rocker. I'll check that
out.
Jim


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Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?

2004-05-01 Thread Graham Stoodley
Andy, try this in Windows Xp for burning MP3 to a CD.  Highlight the files
you want to copy.  Copy them to the clipboard with CTRL-C.  Put a blank CD
in your drive.  Navigate to your drive with the blank CD in it.  When there,
press CTRL-V to paste the MP3 files into the drive.  Screen reader should
tell you that the files are there, but you are not finished yet.  Now press
ALT-F and arrow down to "Write these files to CD", or type T to get there
quicker.  Press  and the CD writing wizard will appear.  Follow the
prompts, choosing to write a data disk, since you have MP3 files.  That has
always worked for me in XP.


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Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?

2004-05-01 Thread Andy Collins
Graham - thanks for the suggestion, I did as you said, but when doing CTRL V
to paste the MP3 to the CD-r, I got the message:
"Unable to copy file or folder, the requested resource is in use."

I also looked on the file menu, but don't seem to have "Write these files to
CD."

I'm using XP home, if that makes a difference. Would really appreciate any
more help you can give, I'm away for a week soon, and want to take some
music and books with me.

Andy

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From: "Graham Stoodley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?


> Andy, try this in Windows Xp for burning MP3 to a CD.  Highlight the files
> you want to copy.  Copy them to the clipboard with CTRL-C.  Put a blank CD
> in your drive.  Navigate to your drive with the blank CD in it.  When
there,
> press CTRL-V to paste the MP3 files into the drive.  Screen reader should
> tell you that the files are there, but you are not finished yet.  Now
press
> ALT-F and arrow down to "Write these files to CD", or type T to get there
> quicker.  Press  and the CD writing wizard will appear.  Follow the
> prompts, choosing to write a data disk, since you have MP3 files.  That
has
> always worked for me in XP.
>
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Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?

2004-05-01 Thread Azhar Khan
Hey Andy,perhaps you atta see if there are  some temp files in that drive
already?one way,you can send your files to burnner drive by pressing your
application key.when done,you can go to your burnner drive n burn em by
application key n follow the prompt with wizzerd.Hope it helps!Az
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?


> Graham - thanks for the suggestion, I did as you said, but when doing CTRL
V
> to paste the MP3 to the CD-r, I got the message:
> "Unable to copy file or folder, the requested resource is in use."
>
> I also looked on the file menu, but don't seem to have "Write these files
to
> CD."
>
> I'm using XP home, if that makes a difference. Would really appreciate any
> more help you can give, I'm away for a week soon, and want to take some
> music and books with me.
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Graham Stoodley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?
>
>
> > Andy, try this in Windows Xp for burning MP3 to a CD.  Highlight the
files
> > you want to copy.  Copy them to the clipboard with CTRL-C.  Put a blank
CD
> > in your drive.  Navigate to your drive with the blank CD in it.  When
> there,
> > press CTRL-V to paste the MP3 files into the drive.  Screen reader
should
> > tell you that the files are there, but you are not finished yet.  Now
> press
> > ALT-F and arrow down to "Write these files to CD", or type T to get
there
> > quicker.  Press  and the CD writing wizard will appear.  Follow
the
> > prompts, choosing to write a data disk, since you have MP3 files.  That
> has
> > always worked for me in XP.
> >
> >
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Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?

2004-05-01 Thread Andy Collins
Hmmm! Don't know what you mean about temp files being in the drive!

I would just love to know why I can't do a simple copy and paste of an MP3
file, from my HD, to a CD-r. Like I said, when I try, I get the message:

"Unable to copy file or folder, resource is already in use."

Begging for help!

Andy
- Original Message - 
From: "Azhar Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?


> Hey Andy,perhaps you atta see if there are  some temp files in that drive
> already?one way,you can send your files to burnner drive by pressing your
> application key.when done,you can go to your burnner drive n burn em by
> application key n follow the prompt with wizzerd.Hope it helps!Az
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?
>
>
> > Graham - thanks for the suggestion, I did as you said, but when doing
CTRL
> V
> > to paste the MP3 to the CD-r, I got the message:
> > "Unable to copy file or folder, the requested resource is in use."
> >
> > I also looked on the file menu, but don't seem to have "Write these
files
> to
> > CD."
> >
> > I'm using XP home, if that makes a difference. Would really appreciate
any
> > more help you can give, I'm away for a week soon, and want to take some
> > music and books with me.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Graham Stoodley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Will XP burn an MP3 to disk?
> >
> >
> > > Andy, try this in Windows Xp for burning MP3 to a CD.  Highlight the
> files
> > > you want to copy.  Copy them to the clipboard with CTRL-C.  Put a
blank
> CD
> > > in your drive.  Navigate to your drive with the blank CD in it.  When
> > there,
> > > press CTRL-V to paste the MP3 files into the drive.  Screen reader
> should
> > > tell you that the files are there, but you are not finished yet.  Now
> > press
> > > ALT-F and arrow down to "Write these files to CD", or type T to get
> there
> > > quicker.  Press  and the CD writing wizard will appear.  Follow
> the
> > > prompts, choosing to write a data disk, since you have MP3 files.
That
> > has
> > > always worked for me in XP.
> > >
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converting audio cd to mp3 format.

2004-05-01 Thread Lisa Hall
Hi everyone,

I am beginning to learn about converting audio cd to mp3 format.  I have the following 
players: Windows Media Player version 9, Real One Player version 2, Winamp version 5, 
and Easy CD Creator version 6. I am using Windows Xp Home with Jaws for Windows 
version 5.  Can someone give me a step by step instruction as to how to do it 
properly.  Will I have to enter each individual track, album, as well as artist and 
copyright information?  I noticed that Winamp and Real One Player gives me these type 
of information.  I am not certain of Windows Media Player.

I look forward to everyone's responses.


Lisa Hall, Texas
President of National Association of Blind Office Professionals
A Division of National Federation of the Blind
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Re: converting audio cd to mp3 format.

2004-05-01 Thread Andy Collins
And on this topic? Does the latest version of Winamp [I've got 5.2, so I
mean 5.3] allow for burning CDs, or is that only the bought version?

Andy
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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: converting audio cd to mp3 format.


Hi everyone,

I am beginning to learn about converting audio cd to mp3 format.  I have the
following players: Windows Media Player version 9, Real One Player version
2, Winamp version 5, and Easy CD Creator version 6. I am using Windows Xp
Home with Jaws for Windows version 5.  Can someone give me a step by step
instruction as to how to do it properly.  Will I have to enter each
individual track, album, as well as artist and copyright information?  I
noticed that Winamp and Real One Player gives me these type of information.
I am not certain of Windows Media Player.

I look forward to everyone's responses.


Lisa Hall, Texas
President of National Association of Blind Office Professionals
A Division of National Federation of the Blind
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"It's Not Over Until I Win."
-- Les Brown
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3 d sound card

2004-05-01 Thread Glenna Burgess
I have windows 98se and jaws 5.0884. In a few months I am going to get a
total of 516mb of memory. Right now, I have a sound blaster sound card.
There are games that I want to play using the 3 d sound card. Should I leave
the sound blaster in, or will the 3 d sound card cover all my sounds? Is
there a certain one, I should either stay away from, or one I should
definitely get? Sorry for the long post. Glenna
"God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change,
courage to change the things we can,
and wisdom to know the difference."

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MP3 Tag studio revisited

2004-05-01 Thread Dave Reynolds
Hi David and raoul and anyone else who uses this program. I haven't totally given up 
with this, and have successfully retagged files from Explorer. Okay, so how do I edit 
a template, i.e. the explorer gives me the option to retag \artist\album\track - 
title. I now need one that does
Artist - album - track - title.
where do I build this, can it be saved, and hence accessed from explorer. It says in 
the manual that it can be done.
Many thank s for your patience,
Dave.
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Re: converting audio cd to mp3 format.

2004-05-01 Thread Guy Mallard

--- Lisa Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am beginning to learn about converting audio cd to
> mp3 format.  I have the following players: Windows
> Media Player version 9, Real One Player version 2,
> Winamp version 5, and Easy CD Creator version 6. I
> am using Windows Xp Home with Jaws for Windows
> version 5.  Can someone give me a step by step
> instruction as to how to do it properly.  Will I
> have to enter each individual track, album, as well
> as artist and copyright information?  I noticed that
> Winamp and Real One Player gives me these type of
> information.  I am not certain of Windows Media
> Player.
> 
> I look forward to everyone's responses.
> 
> 
> Lisa Hall, Texas
> President of National Association of Blind Office
> Professionals
> A Division of National Federation of the Blind
> -
Lisa- dbPowerAmp will do this. It is an excellent
program, and its free.
If you can't find it, let me know and I will send it
to you dirctly to your e-mail address.
Guy Mallard


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direct help with Nero 6

2004-05-01 Thread Jim
Hello everybody,

Well, after having done my research on the best program to get for media, burning, and 
creating, I ended up first buying Roxio 7 (which I found not too accessible).  I found 
it very graphical.  So, I figured, "What the heck?   I also got Nero, so that I could 
make a fair comparison and if I want, I could switch between programs if I so chose.

Well, I'm truly hoping Nero is a lot more accessible.  It is Nero 6 ultra edition.  
I downloaded three or four packages for it, and installed them nicely.  They were 
easier to install than Roxio at this time.
I could really use some individual and direct help with learning about Nero because I 
know nothing about the program or about wanting to burn CDs or even make CDs from 
songs I already have.


OK. Here is what I would need help getting directions with.
1. I borrowed a CD from my friend and wish to burn me a copy.
It is now on my hard drive, in a folder within "My Music."  What do I do with it now 
to burn it to an audio CD.

2. I want to make a graduation gift for a very close friend of mine.  I have the songs 
in a folder within "My Music."  How can I go about burning them?  I need to begin 
making Randy's gift ASAP.  I do have CDrws as well.
If you can help me, I'd surely appreciate it.  You're welcome to email me privately at:
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Re: BlindRadio.com - accessible online radio directory

2004-05-01 Thread Mike Pietruk
The site also works flawlessly for me and is now added to my Favorites.



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Re: converting audio cd to mp3 format.

2004-05-01 Thread Chris Skarstad
Actually, the version number is 5.03 on the new one, and the only thing 
different about the free version is that it restricts you to burning and 
ripping cds at 2 x speed, whereas the pro version doesn't have any 
restrictions.



At 05:14 PM 5/1/2004, you wrote:
And on this topic? Does the latest version of Winamp [I've got 5.2, so I
mean 5.3] allow for burning CDs, or is that only the bought version?
Andy
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From: "Lisa Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: converting audio cd to mp3 format.
Hi everyone,

I am beginning to learn about converting audio cd to mp3 format.  I have the
following players: Windows Media Player version 9, Real One Player version
2, Winamp version 5, and Easy CD Creator version 6. I am using Windows Xp
Home with Jaws for Windows version 5.  Can someone give me a step by step
instruction as to how to do it properly.  Will I have to enter each
individual track, album, as well as artist and copyright information?  I
noticed that Winamp and Real One Player gives me these type of information.
I am not certain of Windows Media Player.
I look forward to everyone's responses.

Lisa Hall, Texas
President of National Association of Blind Office Professionals
A Division of National Federation of the Blind
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Re: BlindRadio.com - accessible online radio directory

2004-05-01 Thread Scottv
how do i make this work with winamp in mp3 format?
thanks, i have windows media wanting to open and i don't want that.  
thanks
Scott
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> The site also works flawlessly for me and is now added to my Favorites.
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downloading realplayer

2004-05-01 Thread Don Bishop
Does anyone know where I can download the latest version of realplayer other than from 
the real site itself? 

I seem to have trouble installing it for some reason and wonder if I might do better 
by just installing the executable locally rather than through their own controlled 
environment.

Thanks,

Don





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Re: downloading realplayer

2004-05-01 Thread Marco Curralejo
try

www.download.com

marco.

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Subject: downloading realplayer


Does anyone know where I can download the latest version of realplayer other
than from the real site itself?

I seem to have trouble installing it for some reason and wonder if I might
do better by just installing the executable locally rather than through
their own controlled
environment.

Thanks,

Don





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Re: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?

2004-05-01 Thread don
Go to  www.musicofyourlife.com  Really great internet radio playing, all the
old standards.  Don
To listen to our blind handy man show go to
www.acbradio.org  go to the handy man archive.  Don
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Subject: Spinner.com ... Anyone know what's going on there?


Hi folks,
I found out about Spinner.com months ago through Toonhead-online.com. I've
downloaded the Spinner.com plug-in for Winamp and I've been listening to
Spinner for quite a while now. One thing I liked about Spinner was that they
had an easy listening channel. My grandmother likes easy listening and I
turned the channel on for the two of us to go to sleep with. Last weekend, I
ran Winamp and got an error message saying that Winamp couldn't connect to
Spinner.com. I went to Spinner's web site and what came up wasn't anything
about Spinner, but a web site for ... Radio at Netscape. ? I thought to
myself, "Uh-oh. I'm a Microsoft Internet Explorer user. I don't think I'll
mess with Radio at Netscape since I don't use Netscape's web browser." I had
heard several years ago that Nullsoft, AOL and Netscape are under the same
umbrella if you will--part of the same company. I downloaded the Radio at
Netscape player from the site at Spinner.com and installed it. A song began
to play. Fine audio quality, but the program wasn't very accessible. I had
to route my PC cursor to my JAWS cursor and move around in the program to
find out what I could listen to. After 30 or so songs, a box pops up saying
"Are you still there? You've listened to 30 songs in a row," or something
like that. I have to click the OK button in order to hear more songs. I
Thought, "well this is silly." I had to leave for a while, so I exited the
program. I came back later and started Radio at Netscape again. This time,
the program said that a newer version of the program is available and would
I like to download and install it. I clicked "yes" and the newer version was
downloaded and installed. The newer version must still be in its beta stages
because the older version is the one people download from the Spinner.com
web site. The newer version is more accessible as at uses the user's default
web browser--in my case, Internet Explorer. But there are several things
about this newer version of Radio at Netscape that I strongly dislike. (1)
The newer version touts AOL for Broadband and Radio at AOL *all over the
place*. Not only was this newer version downloaded and installed, but a
small downloader for downloading AOL for Broadband software was installed on
my system. Icons named "Try AOL for Broadband" were placed on my desktop, in
my start menu, and in my favorites in Internet Explorer. Icon values for AOL
for Broadband were placed in the registry. Links for trying AOL for
Broadband were scattered all throughout the Radio at Netscape program. (2)
This newer version must not support Windows 95 and/or computers with not
that much memory. Currently I'm using a computer with Windows 95, 2 gigs of
hard drive space, 32 MB of RAM, Internet Explorer 5.5 and a cable modem. (Go
ahead, laugh. :-) Yes I am planning on upgrading to a fast XP desktop
computer in the next couple months when I get my tax money back.) Anyway,
the newer version of Radio at Netscape runs v-e-r-y s-l-o-w on my computer.
My computer chokes and gags on it. (3) And this is the thing I dislike the
most: Users of this newer version of Radio at Netscape are only allotted so
many minutes per day to listen to any of the channels on the service. When
users' times are all used up, they are given the message to join AOL so they
can listen to Radio at AOL where they'll be able to listen to channels
unlimited. Now I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous! I mean, is it just me, or
is AOL becoming just like Clear Channel? Well, that discussion is for
another time, another list, but anyway, I find that limitation to be another
one of AOL's desperate ways to bait in more AOL for Broadband victims--uh I
mean customers. Without hesitation, I uninstalled Radio at Netscape and
deleted any shortcuts, links and references to AOL for Broadband on my
system. Ee-gad.
Does anyone know where I can listen to easy listening music--the standards
like Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Nat King Cole, Barbra Streisand and, Doris
Day and others? If so, let me know on or off list. Thanks.



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