Re: [Openvpn-users] need some form of anti-DOS in openvpn?

2015-08-12 Thread Erich Titl

Hi

Am 12.08.2015 um 04:12 schrieb Jason Haar:

Hi there

...


Not much to go on I know, but could there be some way for openvpn server
to keep track of something like "timestamp:externalIP:cert"  and
basically start ignoring new sessions if it sees more than one every XX
seconds? That would reduce the damage such events cause (note I don't
include ports in my suggestion because an openvpn server may have
multiple ports available to all clients - so they're not unique)


The script might do this just the same. This would avoid having to wait 
for an implementation in openvpn, which might break behaviour too.


cheers

ET



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Re: [Openvpn-users] need some form of anti-DOS in openvpn?

2015-08-12 Thread Jason Haar
On 12/08/15 20:20, Erich Titl wrote:
>
> The script might do this just the same. This would avoid having to
> wait for an implementation in openvpn, which might break behaviour too.
>
Well yeah  - but it's the calling hundreds of scripts per minute that
are causing the load :-)

...but you are correct, I'm already looking into changing the scripts to
try to pick up earlier that there's a problem with the new session, and
ditch

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Re: [Openvpn-users] need some form of anti-DOS in openvpn?

2015-08-12 Thread Erich Titl

Hi

Am 12.08.2015 um 11:18 schrieb Jason Haar:

On 12/08/15 20:20, Erich Titl wrote:


The script might do this just the same. This would avoid having to
wait for an implementation in openvpn, which might break behaviour too.


Well yeah  - but it's the calling hundreds of scripts per minute that
are causing the load :-)

...but you are correct, I'm already looking into changing the scripts to
try to pick up earlier that there's a problem with the new session, and
ditch


You may want to mess around with the sticky bit on those scripts.

cheers

ET




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Re: [Openvpn-users] need some form of anti-DOS in openvpn?

2015-08-12 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 01:20:38PM +0200, Erich Titl wrote:
> You may want to mess around with the sticky bit on those scripts.

I have my doubts that this would be doing anything at all on a recent
unix or linux - and even then, it won't stop recompilation of the script
on each call, which is way more expensive than "read from buffer cache"
(where it will be unless you're extremely memory starved)

gert

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[Openvpn-users] Inserting hmac/tls-auth onto a production OpenVPN Server

2015-08-12 Thread Rui Santos
Hi all,

I'm now hardening our OpenVPN Production Server.
I've managed to hardened all required aspects, except the HMAC/TLS-AUTH 
option.

AFAICT, activating the HMAC extra security mechanism, will force me to 
reconfigure all clients, with the risk of failure and a lot of downtime.
The only way a client/remote network can connect is through a specific 
CCD file.

Is there any way I can have this feature, but optional ? Something like 
activating tls-auth on a ccd file only. This way it would be a smooth 
transition. Otherwise I would have to schedule a maintenance window, 
which would be be cumbersome.

Thanks a lot for all your help,

Rui


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Re: [Openvpn-users] Inserting hmac/tls-auth onto a production OpenVPN Server

2015-08-12 Thread Jan Just Keijser
Hi Rui,

On 12/08/15 16:49, Rui Santos wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm now hardening our OpenVPN Production Server.
> I've managed to hardened all required aspects, except the HMAC/TLS-AUTH
> option.
>
> AFAICT, activating the HMAC extra security mechanism, will force me to
> reconfigure all clients, with the risk of failure and a lot of downtime.
> The only way a client/remote network can connect is through a specific
> CCD file.
>
> Is there any way I can have this feature, but optional ? Something like
> activating tls-auth on a ccd file only. This way it would be a smooth
> transition. Otherwise I would have to schedule a maintenance window,
> which would be be cumbersome.
>
nope, that is not possible - the tls-auth handshake is done at a very 
early stage and a ccd-file does not come into play yet.
your only option is downtime, or to set up a second instance on a 
different port, and migrate the clients slowly to the second instance.

HTH,

JJK


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