[Openstack] creating a mailinglist for packaging specific topics?

2012-02-05 Thread Christian Berendt
Hello together.

I think it's a good idea to create a mailinglist for packaging specific
topics. This list here is IMO not the right place for discussions on
such topics, because a lot of people have to read (or at least they
have to filter those mails into /dev/null) them and this will waste a
huge amount of time, which could be spend more useful topics.

The target of this list would be to coordinate the work of packagers of
the different distributions to reach more and (hopefully) identical
quality and to provide packages just in time with new
releases/milestones. Also to have a single point of contact for
upcoming packagers and maybe to provide similar sets of packages (for
example same naming convention, same versions and so on).

Here a few examples I want to discuss in more detail.

  * what is stability in the point of view of a distributor/packager
(the discussion triggered yesterday on the OSDEM on the FOSDEM
2012). I think it's necessary that we have the same point of view
to not have a very different "stability" on different
distributions 

  * is it possible (and how) to share efforts between the packaging for
different distributions (for example I'm pretty sure that it's
possible to create nearly the same SPECs for OpenSUSE/SLES and
FedoraCore/RHEL)

  * is it useful to host all package definitions (SPECs and so on) at a
central place (for example at Github in a project
openstack/packages or somethink like that) so that everybody can
commit to those definitions in an easy and defined way (using
gerrit for reviews..)?

  * should there only be one package set for one distribution or is it
better to have different package sets? (for example at the moment
SUSE and we (B1) are providing packages on the OpenSUSE Build
Service) 

Bye, Christian.

-- 
Christian Berendt
Linux / Unix Consultant & Developer
Mail: bere...@b1-systems.de

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Re: [Openstack] creating a mailinglist for packaging specific topics?

2012-02-05 Thread Russell Bryant
On 02/05/2012 12:27 PM, Christian Berendt wrote:
> Hello together.
> 
> I think it's a good idea to create a mailinglist for packaging specific
> topics. This list here is IMO not the right place for discussions on
> such topics, because a lot of people have to read (or at least they
> have to filter those mails into /dev/null) them and this will waste a
> huge amount of time, which could be spend more useful topics.

I don't think the amount of traffic on cross-distribution packaging
related collaboration would be that high to really be a problem on this
list.  I'd rather not have to sign up for yet another mailing list.

-- 
Russell Bryant

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Re: [Openstack] creating a mailinglist for packaging specific topics?

2012-02-05 Thread Jay Pipes

On 02/05/2012 06:38 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:

On 02/05/2012 12:27 PM, Christian Berendt wrote:

Hello together.

I think it's a good idea to create a mailinglist for packaging specific
topics. This list here is IMO not the right place for discussions on
such topics, because a lot of people have to read (or at least they
have to filter those mails into /dev/null) them and this will waste a
huge amount of time, which could be spend more useful topics.


I don't think the amount of traffic on cross-distribution packaging
related collaboration would be that high to really be a problem on this
list.  I'd rather not have to sign up for yet another mailing list.


Hi Christian!

So, the topic of multiple mailing lists has come up before and we've 
even tried topical mailing lists before, but the amount of traffic on 
them tends to be too low for it to be worth the extra ML subscription. 
I've also made the argument before that with a general mailing list 
(this one), you get a wider audience and people that may not always get 
excited about distribution specifics may be exposed to important 
discussions, learn something new, and in general just be made aware of 
the state of a particular subcommunity by scanning/skimming emails.


After all, it's easy enough to just delete/archive emails that you 
really don't care about -- or create filters.


When posting distribution-specific topics to the main mailing list, just 
use the convention "[TOPIC] Discussion subject" as your email subject. 
So, something like:


[DISTRO] Common place to house RPM-based distro artifacts

That way, it's easy for folks to ignore if they don't wish to follow the 
conversation.


All the best,
-jay


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Re: [Openstack] Swift S3 with Keystone anyone?

2012-02-05 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 19:03:54 +0900
Akira Yoshiyama  wrote:

> I modified the wiki:
> http://wiki.openstack.org/Keystone-BP-S3Token
> 
> I added authtoken in main pipeline just now.

I was unable to find the official configuration for "authtoken".
Since it's only a name of convention, I cannot even guess what
module is meant here.

Some people seem to use authtoken like this:

[filter:authtoken]
paste.filter_factory = keystone.middleware.auth_token:filter_factory
service_protocol = http
service_host = 127.0.0.1
service_port = 5000
auth_host = 127.0.0.1
auth_port = 35357
auth_protocol = http
auth_uri = http://127.0.0.1:5000/
admin_token = 999888777666
;Uncomment next line and check ip:port to use memcached to cache token requests
;memcache_hosts = 127.0.0.1:11211

Is it what you meant? If yes, what does it do in case of S3?
The diagram in the wiki does not mention it.

-- Pete

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