Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date
They way I read it both these "violations" are specific to LL and their service if you quote them entirely; "You assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any Third-Party Viewers that you use, develop, or distribute. Linden Lab shall not be responsible or liable for any Third-Party Viewers." "You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we determine that there is a violation." On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Boy Lane wrote: > Tayra, in all respect, but you need to read the policy before posting a > comment about it. > > There are at least 2 major violations against GPL in TPV, independent if I > want to develop or use any 3rd party viewer to connect to SecondLife or > not. > And I pointed them out in my previous mail. > > "You [the developer] assume all risks, expenses, and defects of any > Third-Party Viewers that you use, develop, or distribute" > "You [the developer] acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop > using or distributing a Third-Party Viewer" > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tayra Dagostino" > To: "Boy Lane" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy: commencement date > > > > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:05:29 +0800 > > "Boy Lane" wrote: > > > >> Again, I completely agree with you. I can develop any viewer based on > >> the Linden sources and be GPL compliant. > >> > >> But, what I can not do it is to be compliant to GPL and TPV the same > >> time. As such the otherwise legitimate GPL > >> viewer will not be allowed to connect to the SecondLife grid. Which > >> makes the first attempt pointless. > > > > no. > > > > you are a developer? you follow GPL and no other, nobody force you in > > other way > > > > you want your viewer listed in viewer directory of LL? your viewer > > should follow some rules > > > > the two sides must be masjed with a AND operator, you are putting TPV > > before GPL, is the opposite. TPV don't limit neither restrict neither > > violate GPL, why TPV is a bundle of rules about LL services. > > > > example: ICEWEASEL is gpl, but http stack follow IEEE standards, so > > Iceweasel broke GPL? > > > > you can develop your virewer looking only GPL, TPV don't touch your > > source code modification or ownership, TPV is "whatever" connecting LL > > grid, GPL or not. > > > > i don't understand your poiting against TPV vs GPL, is a unusefull and > > stupid battle like Cherry vs Potato... > > > > in which way your GPL capabilities should be broken if you complain to > > TPV? if a name restriction disallow your product to connect to LL grid > > mean GPL is broken? no, GPL still valid, your viewwer will connect > > other grids, you are totally free > > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Robert Martin wrote: > > Under the 3PV policy Kirsten would be banned for writing a "copybot" > viewer that she/he did not actually write. This is the core of what is > wrong with the policy as written. > > Kristen's source code and binaries are published, LL would easily be able verify that the viewer is not capable of copybotting. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers
I read a different TPV policy than you did, I do not see where this is true. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Dienstag 30 März 2010 schrieb Harleen Gretzky: > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Robert Martin > wrote: > > > Under the 3PV policy Kirsten would be banned for writing a > > > "copybot" viewer that she/he did not actually write. This is the > > > core of what is wrong with the policy as written. > > > > Kristen's source code and binaries are published, LL would easily > > be able verify that the viewer is not capable of copybotting. > > > please stop applying common sense and logic. > > according to the TPV, kristen would be legally responsible for > anything that is done with a viewer based on kristen's sources, > and could be sued, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT LL IS TRYING TO DO HERE. > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] being forced to upgrade to "2.1 Alpha" release
More likely only to those still using the last Beta release. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote: > > Some users report they were forced to download the > 2.0.2, "2.1 Alpha" release. > > Is it correct to assume this only happens to those > who had installed a previous Beta release, > and that this does NOT happen to those who only > used 'stable' 2.x releases? > > This Alpha has a lot of great improvements but also > some important misbehaviour (say scripts). Maybe this > won't be a surprise for most of you, but I have the > feeling that this test release is being used even for > common daily tasks (while it shouldn't) from a relevant > number of users. > > Opensource Obscure > -- > http://www.google.com/profiles/opensourceobscure > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
