[opensource-dev] Ohai!

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

I don't recall signing up for this list, but I'm happy to be here.  If
nobody else takes credit, I'll blame robla.

I haven't done anything with SL in a while... busy with school and work.

Speaking of school, I'm attending classes with a focus on computational
linguistics.  There has been some discussion among the members of the
department regarding the use of language processing in massively
multiplayer games, and even some discussion about writing some libs in
C#.  Since I'm a Mono dev, I'll be sure that all of the stuff works on
that platform.

But for now, I've got to run to the U and get to studying Lushootseed.

Cheers,

C.J.



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Re: [opensource-dev] Unsubscribe

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

Pls unsubscribe yourself:

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On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 07:53 -0500, Russ, Howell wrote:
> Pls unsubscribe me
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
> From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com
>  
> To: o...@autistici.org  
> Cc: snowglobeMailingList  
> Sent: Wed Feb 17 03:52:21 2010
> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] step by step guide to compiling
> snowglobe 
> 
> 
> Well I am at least glad to see others have the same issue. A new
> viewer coming out isnt going to change the fact that there is not one
> step-by-step tutorial out there. Without the community here making it
> easier for people to get involved any viewer will be under utilized
> (if at all). Heh and also, I've never met a programmer that didnt look
> for an example before trying to code it themselves :-).
> 
> > To: dragnier1...@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] step by step guide to compiling
> snowglobe
> > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:40:51 +
> > From: o...@autistici.org
> > CC: stick...@gmail.com; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> > 
> > 
> > Me too, I think it would be nice :) but I also think
> > 
> > nobody is going to do it right now - a new viewer 
> > 
> > is going to be released in the few next weeks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > While next viewer won't be different from the 
> > 
> > compilation and building point of view, I guess 
> > 
> > most people think it's pointless to write new
> > 
> > documentation for a viewer that won't be used 
> > 
> > anymore in a few months.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Also, this is not such a *huge* issue..well, 
> > 
> > it is..for you, me and a few other people. 
> > 
> > Most people who want to compile their builds 
> > 
> > know how to work around issues without step-to-step
> > 
> > instructions because they're programmers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It seems you can't, and for sure I couldn't 
> > 
> > either, unfortunately. But I'm pretty sure we
> > 
> > will fix this, as there are many people here
> > 
> > waiting for Viewer 2 code release.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > bye
> > 
> > opensource obscure
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > come to LOL, take my scripts, mock me:
> > 
> > http://bit.ly/dbObNk
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:47:17 -0600, james ross
> 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > It doesn't work. This seems to be a huge issue. There are several
> > 
> > > tutorials out there but they all say I used piece of the tutorial
> from
> > 
> > here
> > 
> > > and a piece of the tutorial from there. I just think it would be
> nice if
> > 
> > > there were a step by step tutorial that actually had all the steps
> in
> > 
> > one
> > 
> > > location and when you made it to the end of the 5 hour install it
> would
> > 
> > > work.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > If anyone knows of a fabled tutorial that actually functions,
> please
> > 
> > > please please let me know,
> > 
> > > James
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > >> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:03:07 -0800
> > 
> > >> Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] step by step guide to compiling
> snowglobe
> > 
> > >> From: stick...@gmail.com
> > 
> > >> To: dragnier1...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > >> CC: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> I haven't compiled the viewer myself, but most of what I've seen
> on
> > 
> > >> the list points to the wiki.
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >>
> > 
> > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Compiling_and_Patching_Snowglobe_%
> 28Linux%29
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> Some searching of the wiki of your own may turn up something more
> > 
> > >> relevant to your interests. And I'm sure any problems you may
> > 
> > >> encounter will happily be addressed by this list.
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> -Stickman
> > 
> > >> 
> > 
> > >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:47 PM, james ross
> 
> > 
> > >> wrote:
> > 
> > >> > Is there a step by step guide to compiling. I can use any
> windows OS
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > >> > version of .NET.
> > 
> > >> >
> > 
> > >> > Please help,
> > 
> > >> > James
> > 
> > >> >
> > 
> > >> > 
> > 
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Re: [opensource-dev] Second Life Package Repo

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

Do we have any ubuntu folks on the list who might consider setting up a
PPA?

A few years ago (May 2008), I did a bit of work putting together a build
system using gar called "garindra".  It's totally out of date now, but I
learned enough then, and I've learned enough since then about packaging
stuff for debuntu, that I can probably make something go.

If people care enough to warrant such an effort ;)

Cheers,

C.J.


On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 13:08 -0600, Jonathan Irvin wrote:
> Moving this to it's own thread...
> 
> Hey Linden Labs, when are we going to put Second Life in linux package
> format so we can just link to your repo and have us be able to install
> and upgrade from our respective package managers, i.e Yum & Apt-Get?
> This would really speed up the way we handle SnowGlobe. 
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Re: [opensource-dev] Second Life Package Repo

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

Does it depend on a different PPA?

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  snowglobe: Depends: snowglobe-data (= 1.3.1-6) but it is not going to be 
installed
 Recommends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ffmpeg but it is not installable
 Recommends: gstreamer0.10-pitfdll but it is not installable
 Recommends: w32codecs but it is not installable


On Thu, 2010-02-18 at 20:00 +, Robin Cornelius wrote: 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM, C.J. Adams-Collier
>  wrote:
> > Do we have any ubuntu folks on the list who might consider setting up a
> > PPA?
> >
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~openmetaverse/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=karmic
> 
> But if people want to join in and help with the snowglobe building for
> ubuntu, you are more than welcome to come and join me.
> 
> Robin



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Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

Are you sure?  I'd think that denying connection to their services would
not be limited in any way by the GPL.  But IANAL.

On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 15:16 -0500, Gigs wrote: 
> http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php
> 
> You all realize this is massively incompatible with the GPL, right?
> 
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Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

[C.J. Adams-Collier]

The Debian (Sun) Java runtime package has such an agreement requirement
or did at one point.

On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 20:37 +, Robin Cornelius wrote: 
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Soft Linden  wrote:
> > Mike's correct.
> >
> > If you see any wording that's ambiguous about that, let us know.
> > ___
> 
> 
> Well you seem to have spelled the end of my debian/ubuntu project, I
> can not meet the tems of the third party viewer policy:-
> 
> "On your software download page or in another location that a user
> must visit before installing the Third-Party Viewer, you must disclose
> the following:"
> 
> I cannot do this with an apt-repository, the user can bypass every
> possible webpage or description field. and the fact the policy says
> this is a MUST. The only possible way to do this is to create a custom
> program that displays a screen during the install hook of the package
> and aborts the package install. This can no longer be accepted in to
> the main debian or ubuntu repositories.
> 
> Also it appears that i cannot use the snowglobe logo or name, even
> though i'm basicly building from almost prestine source. I though this
> was the entire point of the snowglobe rebranding, but now we are
> exactly where we were with secondlife 12 months ago.
> 
> Robin
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