Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:05:05 -0700, Kadah wrote: > On 4/13/2012 1:10 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > > Again, the viewer side AOs are in fact mimicking exactly what > > scripted AOs (and most specifically Francis Chung's "Franimation > > Overrider") do. > > I believe FS's was designed to mimic the ZHAO II hud, it even uses its > config notecards. "Franimation Overrider" is a new one to me. Francis Chung's "Franimation Overrider" existed long before the ZHAO HUD, and in fact, at the end of the documentation for the latter you can read: "Based on Francis Chung's Franimation Overrider v1.8" Let's not overlook the contribution of the original authors (I hate it enough when it happens to my contributions to not let it happen to others'...). Henri. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/14/2012 1:14 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:05:05 -0700, Kadah wrote: > >> On 4/13/2012 1:10 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: >>> Again, the viewer side AOs are in fact mimicking exactly what >>> scripted AOs (and most specifically Francis Chung's >>> "Franimation Overrider") do. >> >> I believe FS's was designed to mimic the ZHAO II hud, it even >> uses its config notecards. "Franimation Overrider" is a new one >> to me. > > Francis Chung's "Franimation Overrider" existed long before the > ZHAO HUD, and in fact, at the end of the documentation for the > latter you can read: "Based on Francis Chung's Franimation > Overrider v1.8" > > Let's not overlook the contribution of the original authors (I > hate it enough when it happens to my contributions to not let it > happen to others'...). > > Henri. Somebody else already explained it to me. It was before my time and its been years since I've looked at the documentation for the ZHAO II mod I use. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPiTKEAAoJEIdLfPRu7qE2glAIAIOw0UT98mwTYVqql9AaamTg hUhZGYoc13sd7+a/RV0d/qu0IvjJWRCCJGYofdfYjbHKsvjt7OkTdsiDNmxnFf+e hxYDMmVQHNmALVLDFTPu2XSC1AHHGNEi0MZPodHLbn6gGMEYsLrSY0u9LtvWN1ew cR/99JtDDAkpGEykCh+I2jMuWcCjIiw+jafBv+1zFN1GLaPb7DXSvQMOWmmGbtIZ RKIpAyC6XBmYo4uxch3TrKKdyzk6PSsRWCn57OzhOYEuso+8MT0SrKXFkGJ96jus p4e8bA3wvSJrMFQ3b0BdliF9J6W+YPr/ksAt/zfebupNdiTdDh2LZaMWLC8YeZ8= =hoJL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 15:59:47 +1000, Tateru Nino wrote: > That's because the AOs in TPVs are necessarily incomplete - because they > cannot integrate with the server-side. If Linden Lab *were* considering > just dropping similar functionality into the viewer without additional > server-side integration, I'd consider that to only be half a job. > > ie: If Linden Lab basically copied what the TPVs do for the official > viewer then creators would once again likely wind up in the position of > telling customers "No, you can't use the builtin thingy. You have to use > the scripted thingy instead, or it won't work properly. Why? Well, it's > kind of complicated to explain..." That's a point of friction that users > don't need. Fully seconded, and that's the very reason behind my first message in this thread. Henri ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
On 2012-04-13, at 12:17, Zi Ree wrote: > Am Freitag, 13. April 2012, 18:35:00 schrieb Adeon Writer: >> Alright, here's some features that, if missing, *someone* would complain: > > All of your requirements are present in the Firestorm viewer side AO. Only because he forgot to include the extremely important "it has to be an asset that can be worn with an outfit". That one's a complete dealbreaker for me. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
On 2012-04-13, at 18:05, Kadah wrote: > I believe FS's was designed to mimic the ZHAO II hud, it even uses its > config notecards. "Franimation Overrider" is a new one to me. Franimation is what ZHAO was originally based on. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
On 2012-04-13, at 20:28, Ziggy Puff wrote: > Agreed, for purely selfish reasons. I hope LL adds new LSL functions > that enable AO features / performance / scalability that is impossible > today. Then someone else will write the next ubiquitous AO, and I will > eventually stop getting the "Your walk sucks, I want my money back or > I'm reporting you to the Lindens" IMs. My only piece of advice to > whoever might pick up that baton - don't distribute it in a form that > allows someone to sell an object with your name as creator. Heh. I get all kinds of _interesting_ messages about "my" avatars or sex toys or what have you not working, because they use a version of one of my scripts. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/14/2012 5:16 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: It would be possible to make it seem like a worn asset, but it would be a bit tricky. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPiivoAAoJEIdLfPRu7qE2MoUH/2k7eTEe7CaqlmuqQrdfrZS0 p7rBfygLJ1IGnKxAhTCNh1Kbu/ztzW+ntieUDP954CTbyYnyt6EVc+rpEi5YaEaY IO9mmH8fX96HhFdRjUd8ksx2S2F6RB1awHpDoqmyauGqCbdVfXu379ZTKynL7dk2 qwE8Vcr+t8DIKQYd/wVjjqX4kIEwh282bT72MubEVAb1YlS3y/dkk1FnWNxTNDCr RMu5z4bw+WpEn0IlkgTX1IyUZKAQ8UCQ7w9WBwauBs3p16RuaUNQ5E6ltGI7kTE0 tWxU/Hdko/G+/F5ZXC+DLbSZTtXDQHZCNqn2O3ynIc0dMHTc8JaFd1C9YblQ6Hs= =/CY8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/14/2012 5:16 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2012-04-13, at 12:17, Zi Ree wrote: >> Am Freitag, 13. April 2012, 18:35:00 schrieb Adeon Writer: >>> Alright, here's some features that, if missing, *someone* >>> would complain: >> >> All of your requirements are present in the Firestorm viewer >> side AO. > > Only because he forgot to include the extremely important "it has > to be an asset that can be worn with an outfit". That one's a > complete dealbreaker for me. It would be possible to make it seem like a worn asset, but it would be a bit tricky. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPiivrAAoJEIdLfPRu7qE2SyEIAL+4xeBytM7HzPata368+pmh bExZHNXS6bD+XJDvRh3kgvJqe8vDXL6aUkJHXNZjk8a78QhGOBZdvqPrOARBbf47 uJboO0/RMn35MeBG1JA2/HfS/i4bc0jUm4HRGVEQB6kqP2fOD+Ez4r7M844OunlL hVXusq5nFJJwuasBANxutg4A1jzY/9o96+iLORH4t2T1sSiqMuqBe2WkPXBZeTml hIB8P9CpW3TSxnOrQ4n9oakM2NCgGub7eF2Wuxo3vpLu9Iv11LD6D1TPzvEuGo+6 Oi0d03HoPR+qcYv8FnVjbzcqIulyVtC69D14Q5hfzQGKqpfrxEBHzXqLFMDjtJA= =Q2Bk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/14/2012 5:23 AM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: > On 2012-04-13, at 18:05, Kadah wrote: >> I believe FS's was designed to mimic the ZHAO II hud, it even >> uses its config notecards. "Franimation Overrider" is a new one >> to me. > > Franimation is what ZHAO was originally based on. > Yeah, its been pointed out to me over a dozen times already... I get it >_> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPiix8AAoJEIdLfPRu7qE2VskH/i9fo8QiCX91L6IHO1EFfPJp FUWUTlTCtrHqAG76q0tG+Kt++77CpHICuUDFcIWm5Wv3eiO6k9A3cUWtI0sq15L6 zkAbHAjUXr3MnL8JzILpCE3aNqO7vLbzXZn9WZAagFFgygINbrVOJt8ocwfJ3xOO ku0YbkelSe7QYe1ew439b1nVo1VDuOxY1+Ks94oEj46IhekEfpsVTUiQmAVGlMjL Z4CSGtn7csip7U4pRSejioLt/pSWrFo7CF3FC0pfKbZax4vBRSwvaq76B1/sW9RC GTQ3pqFoVDMp1DWoubSvQ0mSen3VsNKJE0OuWwdni6TJqx6nEJYs83EcdoU5L2c= =Yx83 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Adding a library
Hello! I've been working on a patch for VWR-2125 "Include EXIF data in snapshot downloads" and it's just about working. However, I've done this without properly adding the library to use (I used libexif 0.6.20 found in cygwin, and just included it that way.) I'm not that familiar with cmake and I'm not even sure including the entire library would be best since the viewer doesn't really need to decode exif tags, just write them. I was also not sure whether or not there's already a library included with the viewer to write exif tags. This just seemed to be easiest. So I guess I'm just looking for feedback on how to best include the library or rewrite functionality into the viewer itself. Apologies if this e-mail seems a bit scattered. It's the weekend and I've had a few drinks. -- Kind regards, -Cinder ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Adding a library
Assuming you are on windows and linking cygexif-12.dll into the viewer. Is that correct? > > From: Cinder Roxley >To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:39 AM >Subject: [opensource-dev] Adding a library > >Hello! > >I've been working on a patch for VWR-2125 "Include EXIF data in snapshot >downloads" and it's just about working. However, I've done this without >properly adding the library to use (I used libexif 0.6.20 found in >cygwin, and just included it that way.) I'm not that familiar with cmake >and I'm not even sure including the entire library would be best since >the viewer doesn't really need to decode exif tags, just write them. I >was also not sure whether or not there's already a library included with >the viewer to write exif tags. This just seemed to be easiest. > >So I guess I'm just looking for feedback on how to best include the >library or rewrite functionality into the viewer itself. Apologies if >this e-mail seems a bit scattered. It's the weekend and I've had a few >drinks. > >-- >Kind regards, >-Cinder >___ >Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev >Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges > > >___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Tutorial needed on TPV viewer-side AOs
If we had viewer-side AO's, I am wondering about a couple of things, and maybe I just don't get it: 1. Would the only person that sees "us" animating just be ourselves? Or would other people in-world be able to see the identical animation? If so, does that mean the animation is stored locally with the client, on the client computer, and is a constant upload stream to the grid while it is playing? That doesn't sound like an improvement to me. More like a bandwidth-hog. 2.. If the animation is not stored on the client system with the viewer, then what could the point possibly be of even having it? 3. Could somebody please deprecate all this mesh stuff from the grid? --Andro ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Adding a library
Yes, exactly. On 4/14/2012 9:06 PM, Nicky Perian wrote: Assuming you are on windows and linking cyg*exif-*12.dll into the viewer. Is that correct? *From:* Cinder Roxley *To:* opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:39 AM *Subject:* [opensource-dev] Adding a library Hello! I've been working on a patch for VWR-2125 "Include EXIF data in snapshot downloads" and it's just about working. However, I've done this without properly adding the library to use (I used libexif 0.6.20 found in cygwin, and just included it that way.) I'm not that familiar with cmake and I'm not even sure including the entire library would be best since the viewer doesn't really need to decode exif tags, just write them. I was also not sure whether or not there's already a library included with the viewer to write exif tags. This just seemed to be easiest. So I guess I'm just looking for feedback on how to best include the library or rewrite functionality into the viewer itself. Apologies if this e-mail seems a bit scattered. It's the weekend and I've had a few drinks. -- Kind regards, -Cinder ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
