Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
  On 2010-08-06 17:28, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in
> English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for
> every reason that supports it.
Clarity is never wasted.

You have not given any hint at all as to what problem you are trying to 
solve - without at least that, there is no way to even start thinking 
about what you've written.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>   On 2010-08-06 17:28, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>   
>> Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in
>> English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for
>> every reason that supports it.
>> 
> Clarity is never wasted.
>
> You have not given any hint at all as to what problem you are trying to 
> solve - without at least that, there is no way to even start thinking 
> about what you've written.
>   

Thanks!

Sometimes the concept is never understood when the meaning to the word 
concept is not understood. If the content is money, it means nothing, to 
We, who appreciate the honey.

We use use the spoon to eat the honey.

Bend the spoon?

Easy.

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Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Marine Kelley
lol I knew it ! This text IS actually a Markov chain !

That or it is aimed at a subset of the members of this list who actually
know the encryption key to extract the hidden message. But to the rest of
us, this is just nonsense.



On 7 August 2010 17:34, Dzonatas Sol  wrote:

> Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
> >   On 2010-08-06 17:28, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in
> >> English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for
> >> every reason that supports it.
> >>
> > Clarity is never wasted.
> >
> > You have not given any hint at all as to what problem you are trying to
> > solve - without at least that, there is no way to even start thinking
> > about what you've written.
> >
>
> Thanks!
>
> Sometimes the concept is never understood when the meaning to the word
> concept is not understood. If the content is money, it means nothing, to
> We, who appreciate the honey.
>
> We use use the spoon to eat the honey.
>
> Bend the spoon?
>
> Easy.
>
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Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Gwynn Gunawan
:)

> lol I knew it ! This text IS actually a Markov chain !
>
> That or it is aimed at a subset of the members of this list who actually
> know the encryption key to extract the hidden message. But to the rest of
> us, this is just nonsense.

Count me in with the latter gang plx, k, thnx, bye
But I thought it entertaining, of perhaps in the wrong place, but I
aint gonna be naggin' about it

:-D

~gg
>
>
>
> On 7 August 2010 17:34, Dzonatas Sol  wrote:
>>
>> Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote:
>> >   On 2010-08-06 17:28, Dzonatas Sol wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in
>> >> English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for
>> >> every reason that supports it.
>> >>
>> > Clarity is never wasted.
>> >
>> > You have not given any hint at all as to what problem you are trying to
>> > solve - without at least that, there is no way to even start thinking
>> > about what you've written.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Sometimes the concept is never understood when the meaning to the word
>> concept is not understood. If the content is money, it means nothing, to
>> We, who appreciate the honey.
>>
>> We use use the spoon to eat the honey.
>>
>> Bend the spoon?
>>
>> Easy.
>>
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Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Garmin Kawaguichi
I suppose Dzonatas is taking a holiday and somebody is using her computer!

GCI

- Original Message - 
From: "Dzonatas Sol" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets


> Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in 
> English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for 
> every reason that supports it.etc etc
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Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

2010-08-07 Thread Fractured Crystal
Drugs are bad.
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Re: [opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

2010-08-07 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> They've had an adult grid that is suppose to be fast, easy,... and fun.
>
> They've had an teen grid that is suppose to be ... easy... fast... clean?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> ___  Life
>

I believe I found a solution.

The svn code should be for only "kids"... even people who decide to make 
their avatars like "kids"... so a split code base "right there" where 
the more known "adult" possibility can be found in the hg repository.

I think that provides several options to get LL out of its corner.

We know there is confusion between "shared" code base and "split" code 
base... yet we understand this.

It's the same feel... they need to earn it to grow up... but its got to 
be their choice to know what they lost. Some have already taken that 
choice...

.. they just haven't quite... you know.

-- "."  [Fixt.]





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Re: [opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

2010-08-07 Thread Marine Kelley
I check out the code of the viewer from svn and not hg... Does that make me
a kid now ?


On 7 August 2010 22:42, Dzonatas Sol  wrote:

> Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> > They've had an adult grid that is suppose to be fast, easy,... and fun.
> >
> > They've had an teen grid that is suppose to be ... easy... fast... clean?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > ___  Life
> >
>
> I believe I found a solution.
>
> The svn code should be for only "kids"... even people who decide to make
> their avatars like "kids"... so a split code base "right there" where
> the more known "adult" possibility can be found in the hg repository.
>
> I think that provides several options to get LL out of its corner.
>
> We know there is confusion between "shared" code base and "split" code
> base... yet we understand this.
>
> It's the same feel... they need to earn it to grow up... but its got to
> be their choice to know what they lost. Some have already taken that
> choice...
>
> .. they just haven't quite... you know.
>
> -- "."  [Fixt.]
>
>
>
>
>
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[opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

2010-08-07 Thread aklo
i like what Dzon has to say more every time she has something new to
contribute.  Just sayin'.

And to Fractured Crystal re: "Drugs are bad."  In SL the usual
psychoactive options (even alcohol) are obviously not an option.  But, if
you look at it like that SL is sorta like a drug.  Is it bad?  It is an
altered state, and that's like the problem i have with Viewer 2 - it
lessens the "immersion" that's important to me in SL.  i know i'm all
wierd & stuff, but SL isn't a "game" for me.  It's an altered state of
reality.  It's taught me a lot about myself i never guessed at b4 and in
some ways is better than acid or whatever - and trust me, that's something
i *do* know about.

Sorry for what lots will call off-topic input, but i think the pysche
implications of what we're doing with SL are as important as the pure CS
tech stuff, and deserve to be discussed in the same sort of context. 
Treating SL like nothing more than a "game" is trashing a lot of potential
for the sake of a cheap thrill.  So American, y'know?  Once again, just
sayin'.

bye,
AK

Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> > They've had an adult grid that is suppose to be fast, easy,... and fun.
> >
> > They've had an teen grid that is suppose to be ... easy... fast... clean?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > ___  Life
> >

I believe I found a solution.

The svn code should be for only "kids"... even people who decide to make
their avatars like "kids"... so a split code base "right there" where
the more known "adult" possibility can be found in the hg repository.

I think that provides several options to get LL out of its corner.

We know there is confusion between "shared" code base and "split" code
base... yet we understand this.

It's the same feel... they need to earn it to grow up... but its got to
be their choice to know what they lost. Some have already taken that
choice...

.. they just haven't quite... you know.

-- "."  [Fixt.]



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Re: [opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

2010-08-07 Thread mysticaldemina
I guess it is time to unsubscribe from this group. I don't have time to read
the constant flow of emails like this.

-Original Message-
From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com
[mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Dzonatas
Sol
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:43 PM
To: Dzonatas Sol; opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com; Philip Rosedale
Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

Dzonatas Sol wrote:
> They've had an adult grid that is suppose to be fast, easy,... and fun.
>
> They've had an teen grid that is suppose to be ... easy... fast... clean?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> ___  Life
>

I believe I found a solution.

The svn code should be for only "kids"... even people who decide to make 
their avatars like "kids"... so a split code base "right there" where 
the more known "adult" possibility can be found in the hg repository.

I think that provides several options to get LL out of its corner.

We know there is confusion between "shared" code base and "split" code 
base... yet we understand this.

It's the same feel... they need to earn it to grow up... but its got to 
be their choice to know what they lost. Some have already taken that 
choice...

.. they just haven't quite... you know.

-- "."  [Fixt.]





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[opensource-dev] 1.4 Showstopper: SNOW-799

2010-08-07 Thread Aleric Inglewood
Please your attention for http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-799

The only reason I can currently think of that this might not be a
showstopper is when
it is caused by having 'Use HTTP textures' turned on... but shouldn't that
be working with 1.4?
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Re: [opensource-dev] 1.4 Showstopper: SNOW-799

2010-08-07 Thread Dzonatas Sol
Hi,

I had to think about what what untamed HTTP textures could do on the teen.

/. had this article to say today: 
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/08/06/150216/Child-Porn-As-a-Weapon


/"Want to get rid of your boss and move up to his position? Put kiddie 
porn on his computer then call the cops! This was the cunning plan 
envisaged by handyman Neil Weiner of east London after falling out with 
school caretaker Edward Thompson too many times. Thankfully, Weiner 
didn't cover his tracks quite well enough to avoid being found out 

 
— earlier boasts about his plan to friends at a BBQ provided the police 
with enough evidence to arrest him for trying to pervert the course of 
justice. Frighteningly, however, between being charged with possession 
of indecent images and being exonerated, innocent (if 'grumpy') Thompson 
was abused and ostracized for eight months 

 
by neighbors and colleagues. With computer forensics for police work 
often being performed by 'point 'n click'-trained, nearly-retired cops, 
or languishing in a 6-month queue for private sector firms to attend to 
it, the uncomfortable question is raised: how easily might this trick 
have succeeded if Weiner had been a little more intelligent about it?"


/Consider that I have known the internet completely untamed since a 
young age ...  where does it begin to start to be accepted as "virgin"?

Was it a contrite decision? Or, a luxury?

I look at the world as if I'm looking into a vanity mirror... you decide.




Aleric Inglewood wrote:
> Please your attention for http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-799
>
> The only reason I can currently think of that this might not be a 
> showstopper is when
> it is caused by having 'Use HTTP textures' turned on... but shouldn't 
> that be working with 1.4?
>
>
> 
>
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