Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New install of OpenIndiana b147
On 09/21/10 08:17 AM, aspinwall wrote: Hi, After successfully migrating from Solaris 10 u5 to OpenIndiana b147, I added OpenOffice 3.2.1 via a download I used for Solaris and which did not appear to cause any problems. I then attempted to install VirtualBox v3.2.8, using pkgadd . The VirtualBox v3.2.8 installation failed with an error it could not delete /var/tmp/string>/SUNWvbox . Now I am unable to boot OpenIndiana successfully. What would be the best recovery procedure to follow to get a usable boot environment? The computer does boot, provides the Grub boot menu for OpenIndiana b147, the OpenIndiana screen appears with the animated orange band moving along the thin blue line but that is as far as it gets even after 30 minutes. Hit a key to see what's going on behind the animation. Just a couple of suggestions 1) A Safe Boot Environment as part of the standard install That feature was never added to OpenSolaris, the live CD is the Safe Boot Environment! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Eager to make the move...
On 09/21/10 10:00 AM, Lou Picciano wrote: Alasdair and crew, First off, thanks for taking the reins and making this happen - we're looking forward to working with OpenIndiana. Feels like home...! As a first challenge, we're wondering if it's possible to install OI on an unbootable install of 134. In a frenzy of 'overenthusiastic experimentation', one of our guys may have deleted (?) some parts (?) of the filesystem. The one sure thing is that is that the BEs will not boot, though we do get to the point of the grub screen to select them. Is there a way to mount a BE, then update to OI from there? You need a running system to upgrade. You are better off starting from scratch with the live image. I wouldn't trust something broken to upgrade, even if the upgrade appeared to work! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] BSD Magazine mentions OpenIndiana
On 01/26/11 07:03 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: On 25 January 2011 17:32, Edward Martinez wrote: Hi in this month BSD (01/2011) issue, has an article comparing OpenIndiana to the BSDs on the desktop. the article starts on pg: 36 and it's a free download OI is getting exposure :-) http://bsdmag.org/ Ta for the link ... It's interesting and probably fair :) Except for this old chestnut: "OpenIndiana is a new player here, since Solaris started to develop for i386 platform just a few years ago..." -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Unusual pkg error creating a zone
Hello, I have am OI 148 system with a number of zones. Today I tried to create another and zoneadm installed failed with the following pkg error, which looks like a 151a package has accidentally been installed: pfexec zoneadm -z svnftp install A ZFS file system has been created for this zone. Publisher: Using openindiana.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/ ). Publisher: Using opensolaris.org (http://pkg.openindiana.org/legacy/). Image: Preparing at /zoneRoot/svnftp/root. Cache: Using /var/pkg/download. Sanity Check: Looking for 'entire' incorporation. Installing: Core System (output follows) Packages to install: 1 Create boot environment:No DOWNLOAD PKGS FILESXFER (MB) Completed 1/1 2/2 0.0/0.0 PHASEACTIONS Install Phase 12/12 PHASE ITEMS Package State Update Phase 1/1 Image State Update Phase 2/2 Packages to install:46 Create boot environment:No Services to restart: 3 DOWNLOAD PKGS FILESXFER (MB) Completed46/46 13575/1357595.6/95.6 PHASEACTIONS Install Phase19104/19104 PHASE ITEMS Package State Update Phase 46/46 Image State Update Phase 2/2 Installing: Additional Packages (output follows) Creating Plan /pkg: No matching version of SUNWadmap can be installed: pkg://openindiana.org/SUNWadmap@0.5.11,5.11-0.151:20110912T025048Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://openindiana.org/consolidation/install/install-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101128T215402Z Any clues? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Unusual pkg error creating a zone
On 09/25/11 07:06 PM, Richard Lowe wrote: This might be #944 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/944), which has symptoms that are remarkably annoying to track to their cause. It could be, but I wonder why is happened today and not a couple of weeks ago when I created the other zones? Did you find a fix? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Unusual pkg error creating a zone
On 09/25/11 08:43 PM, Richard Lowe wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 03:36, Ian Collins wrote: On 09/25/11 07:06 PM, Richard Lowe wrote: This might be #944 (https://www.illumos.org/issues/944), which has symptoms that are remarkably annoying to track to their cause. It could be, but I wonder why is happened today and not a couple of weeks ago when I created the other zones? Did you find a fix? Fix is in the defect.opensolaris.org bug linked from that one. I'm not sure it's the same issue, either, but the error (messages) it causes are utterly nonsensical. So it seemed worth ruling out. Alas the patch didn't do the trick. It looks like the problem is with packages from the OI repro: Creating Plan |pkg: No matching version of SUNWadmap can be installed: pkg://openindiana.org/SUNWadmap@0.5.11,5.11-0.151:20110912T025048Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://openindiana.org/consolidation/install/install-incorporation@0.5.11,5.11-0.148:20101128T215402Z -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on system with a Broadcom 5720 NIC
I'm evaluating OI on a new Dell R720 which has a Broadcom 5720 quad NIC. The device isn't recognised by the installer, but I see commits for BCM5720 support in hg. How should I update the driver post-install (bearing in mind I won't have a working network interface!)? Thanks. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Installing on system with a Broadcom 5720 NIC
On 05/ 4/12 05:08 PM, Rich wrote: > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Ian Collins wrote: I'm evaluating OI on a new Dell R720 which has a Broadcom 5720 quad NIC. The device isn't recognised by the installer, but I see commits for BCM5720 support in hg. How should I update the driver post-install (bearing in mind I won't have a working network interface!)? Thanks. The only commits I see are for updates to PCI IDs to include the BCM5720? Which commits are you looking at? Those were the ones I spotted. I thought there would be a driver change as well (there are some comments on BSD lists which indicate a driver change is also needed). Broadcom also have an updated driver for Solaris 10. I'll try updating the driver aliases. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Root as role vs. user and rsync
On 05/ 7/12 01:04 AM, Jeppe Toustrup wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: I finally decided to take the bullet and make root a role instead of a user. All went well except for my nightly backup. I have a backup server that rsyncs my various collection of Linux, OpenIndiana, Windows, and Mac machines nightly. Without root as a user, how do I set up rsync to ssh onto the machine and retrieve the root system files on OpenIndiana? There are two ways as I see it: 1. Start rsyncd (see http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/rsync+daemon+service+on+OpenIndiana) and set up a share for '/' which you then can rsync against. You can either do this directly over the network (unencrypted) or SSH into the machine and connect to rsyncd through localhost. I'll second that recommendation, it is the way I rsync off anything derived from OpenSolaris. From what I've seen, this option offers the best performance. I lock the share down so only the backup server can read from it, see rsync.conf(5) for details. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server
On 11/17/12 17:36, Paul B. Henson wrote: For the motherboard, I'm looking at the Supermicro X9DRD-7LN4F-JBOD, which is a dual LGA 2011 socket board with 16 DIMM slots, 2 x SATA3, 4 x SATA2, and 8 x SAS (LSI 2308 controller onboard) along with 4 intel i350 based gig nics. My understanding is that illumos is perfectly happy with the LSI 2308 in IT mode. The -JBOD version of this motherboard comes from the factory with IT firmware. It doesn't seem readily available though, if I went with the regular version the LSI controller comes with RAID firmware, it's possible to reflash with IT but from what I've read it's a bit of a pain (you need to do it from the EFI shell). It also looks like illumos works with the intel i350 gig nics, and I assume there should be no issue with the onboard Intel AHCI SATA controller? That board is similar to the one I use with Solaris 11, the X9DRH-7TF. I haven't tried booting a recent Illumos build on it, but I can report that, unlike those on Dell PERCs, the 2308 hasn't been hobbled to prevent JBOD mode. So as long as the recently added driver sees the card, you can use the megaCLI utility to enable it. The on board SATA works fine and you shouldn't have any problems with the i350. I haven't really spec'd specific RAM, although I'm partial to crucial, it takes 1333MHz registered ECC DDR3. I think I want at least 32GB for the storage server side, and I'm not sure yet how much more I'll add in on top of that for virtualization. I'm using the same RAM on my system. 8 of the 16 3.5" bays will be covered by the onboard LSI controller, I need to get an additional PCIe controller with 2 x SFF-8087 connectors to cover the rest. Seems there are a fair number of options, although I'm not sure if there's a clear winner among them. Any favorites? I use an LSI 2911 which uses the well supported 2008 chip. Hard drives are the parts I'm least confident in 8-/. I'd like to go 2TB or 3TB, that's cost prohibitive for near-line SAS, and pretty darn pricy for "enterprise" SATA. I don't really want to go with desktop class drives though. Is there any opinion yet on the new WD Red "NAS" drives? They're only $170 for a 3TB drive, which is pretty cheap. On the plus side, they're engineered for 7x24 operation, have a three year warranty, and are supposed to be low power/low heat I'm happy with WD (non-RAID) blacks for a home system. As long as your case has good cooling on the drives, they'll be fine. I also don't really have a good handle on what SSD's to go with. As I mentioned, I'm thinking of getting two for rpool/l2arc, and hook them up to the onboard SATA3 controller. If I can find ones that are appropriate, I'd carve out a third partition on them for a mirrored slog; otherwise I'd get a separate third one and stick it in a 3.5" bay to be dedicated slog. I don't think I'd bother to mirror the slog if it is on a separate SSD, I believe there are no longer any critical failure modes from slog failure, worst-case being it fails when the pool is off-line and you need to manually import it. Any suggestions on good rpool/l2arc/slog SSD's, or rpool/l2arc SSD's with a different model slog SSD would be greatly appreciated. I used a couple of Crucial M4 drives for the ARC and Intel 311s for the ZIL. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server
On 11/19/12 16:10, Paul B. Henson wrote: I use an LSI 2911 which uses the well supported 2008 chip. Hmm, I don't see any of those for sale, and google's not being much help. Is that an older card? Maybe it's been discontinued and replaced with a new model. I was looking at the box upside down, it's a 9211-8i I used a couple of Crucial M4 drives for the ARC and Intel 311s for the ZIL. Looks like the 311 is EOL, replaced by the 313. SLC flash for durability, nice, but I couldn't find anything that says whether or not the 313 has a supercapacitor to flush the write cache on unexpected power failure. They don't unfortunately. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [smartos-discuss] hardware specs for illumos storage/virtualization server
On 11/19/12 18:01, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 04:24:51PM +1300, Ian Collins wrote: I was looking at the box upside down, it's a 9211-8i Ah, ;), that's more easily found, about $230-$250 it seems, cool. the 313 has a supercapacitor to flush the write cache on unexpected power failure. They don't unfortunately. Bummer :(, it would be nice to get one that does. I think the 320 series does, the 40G is only $90, but I think it has relatively crappy write performance and high write latency, so wouldn't be a very good zil. The 313 looks like it has pretty good performance, and not too pricy at $135 for 24G, which is plenty big for a zil. The 20G part has better write throughput. Unfortunately no one in my neck of the woods has any stock... The box is going to have dual power supplies on UPS's, and I plan to set it up for auto shutdown on power loss, so it's not *too* likely the slog is going to unexpectedly lose power while processing writes. I guess when you're on a budget you can't have everything, I might need to settle for a non-powerfail protected ssd for zil... It looks like suppliers like Intel are targeting the desktop SSD/spinning rust hybrid market with SLC devices. The mSATA versions are much more plentiful. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] running OI as a guest in KVM
On 11/11/12 04:04, Anil Jangity wrote: I am not able to run OI as a guest in SmartOS/KVM. Are there virtio drivers I can install to get it to recognize the disks? Are there plans to integrate official drivers into upstream? Use "ide" for the disk model and "e1000" for the nic model. Performance won't be great, it it will install and run. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] rack server recommendation
Achim Wolpers wrote: Hi Folks, we bought a Dell PowerEdge R420 as an OI Box. Even though it is listed in der HCL in the OI wiki, neither the broadcom network interface nor the hba is supported by OI drivers. So we had to attach a new network interface and have to boot from an external jbod box, since the internal hdd slots are not accessible. Get Dell to fit the alternative Intel NICs (assuming these are swappable like those on the R720) and a low cost Perc 310, which can be configured for JBOD. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] rack server recommendation
solarg wrote: On 12/13/12 02:39, Ian Collins wrote: Get Dell to fit the alternative Intel NICs (assuming these are swappable like those on the R720) and a low cost Perc 310, which can be configured for JBOD. i have a Dell R320 with PERC 310, and OI doesn't see the disks, even configured as no-raid. I finally switched to FreeBSD for this machine. At the time we had to use Solaris 11, but I thought OI now has the BSD mr_sas driver? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] dualboot
Reginald Beardsley wrote: FWIW I have a rack I built that holds 24 disk caddies. It's getting obsolete as they are all IDE drives, but it's really nice to be able to grab an old disk, stick it in the machine, load something and play around knowing w/ absolute certainty that I can't do any damage. Part of my original motivation was being able to replicate a client environment and have it available at the drop of a hat. As it worked out, I never really did that, but I have used it a lot for testing software on different OS distributions. A more modern (and cheaper) version would be an USB<->SATA/IDE interface and bare drives. A more modern (and cheaper) version would be VirtulBox! OI on my current macbook runs way faster under VB than Solaris ever did native on my older laptops. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] using LSI 2308-IT onboard supermicro X9DRD-7LN4F-JBOD, openindiana not loading drivers?
Ong Yu-Phing wrote: I have a supermicro X9DRD-7LN4F-JBOD motherboard, which comes preconfigured with an LSI 2308 onboard in IT mode. The disks attached to the onboard LSI 2308 controller can be seen in linux from both dmesg and fdisk output, but not in OI 148 or 151. FYI the MPT firmware in the LSI controller is 13.00.57.00-IT. When I boot up in e.g. OI 148, scanpci output finds "lsi logic / symbios logic sas2208 pci-express fusion-mpt sas-2", but modinfo | grep -i mpt doesn't show any drivers loaded. I tried to manually load them (e.g. modload -p drv/kernel/amd64/mpt) but format still doesn't show the disks (it does show the 2x Intel 520 SSDs connected to the SATA interface, though). When I startup the Device Driver Manager in OI 151, it shows as Storage : LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS2308 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS2 : UNK (i.e. no device driver loaded). Right click to show more info: The Illumos mr_sas driver is quite new, see the earlier thread "rack server recommendation" for driver install hints. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help: Dell PERC H310 Firmware for IT/IR mode.
Robert W Johnson Jr wrote: We have a few Dell PERC H310 adapters which seem to be rebranded LSI 9211 8i cards. Can anyone who has successfully flashed the firmware from the LSI 9211 (SAS2008 chipset) IT/IR mode please post the steps taken to do so? These cards support JBOD with the stock Dell firmware, so you may not have to update them. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI Crash
David Scharbach wrote: I have an OI installation that seems to crash about every 20 days. Locks up completely and needs a hard reset. Not very much fun. Question I have is where would I start to look to see why? I first thought it may be due to scrubbing load on the LSI controller but that is not the case. It crashed today hours after a curb was successful at 2AM. I am a new OI user and would really appreciate a bit of help on this one. Basically looking for a crash dump of some sort and the locations that I have looked at don't really help. System is i3 CPU 32GB Ram LSI SAS2008 Intel SAS expander 13 SATA 7200RPM drives Asus MB Is there any evidence of a crash in the logs? Look in /var/adm/messages for any clues and under /var/crash/ for any dumps. I'm not sure if there is a version of Solaris CAT (Crash Analysis Tool) that works with OI. If there is and you have a dump that's the best place to look. If there isn't any evidence of a crash, there's a fair chance you have a hardware problem. I'm guessing that with an i3 motherboard you won't have ECC memory, so running memtest86 for a while would be a good start. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 10 GB Networking - any known gotchas/tips - stuff to avoid?
Lou Picciano wrote: You appear to have tagged onto an existing thread, not a good idea! We're looking at building out some of our infrastructure in 10 GB ethernet land, then reevaluating our changing storage needs in context of best practices for leveraging these speeds. IE, iSCSI? Dedicated Storage arrays, etc. First: Thanks to those of you who've updated our wiki re 10 GB ethernet adapters: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Ethernet+Networking Is it generally safe to assume a 'chipset-level' compatibility, whether on adapter or mobo? (btw, many of those links to Intel are no longer working...) Anyone have any specific experience running 10 GB on the newer SuperMicro boards? Yes, I realize we're generally safe with the Intel interfaces but, hey; doesn't hurt to ask, right? I have been using an X9DRH-7TF and another host with an Intel X540 dual 10G card (running SmartOS) for a while and they work very will. If your storage pool can keep up, you can achieve excellent performance. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Harddisk > 2TB
Jerry Kemp wrote: Going slightly askew on your original comment. I also purchased an Intel SASUC8I controller a couple months ago based on positive comments from the ZFS mailing list to attach (4) 2Tb Seagate drives to my home system. The best I ever got out of it was for it to be able to see (1) drive all the time, and a second one intermittently. It never saw drives 3 or 4. I finally gave up screwing around with it and am using an older/slower/lower performance HBA. If you get something that works reliably, be it the IBM M1015, or something else, please post a summary. Anything LSI 2008 based should be fine. I have a couple at home (one on a Supermicro board, another LSI original) and a couple of PERC H200s in older Dell servers running OI. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New Zone User Questions
Dormition Skete wrote: I entered the wonderful world of zones the other day. > > I read the chapter in the "OpenSolaris Bible" about zones a while > back, and I've been thinking that setting up a couple of sparse-root > zones, and one whole-root zone would probably be best for our needs. I'm pretty sure the whole/sparse zone thing was long gone before OpenSolaris was closed. I wanted the whole-root zone because we have a couple of very old web > apps that require PHP4, and I thought putting them in a whole-root > zone would be a good way to reduce any possibility of an unintended > PHP5 install messing things up with it. Or maybe we might end up > needing PHP5 for something, and I thought this would be a way of > being able have both, but in separate zones. It is. And I thought the sparse-root zones, using the global zone's /lib, > /platform, /sbin, and /usr directories would ease system updates. Gone! > I tried "add inherit-pkg-dir", thinking that would allow me to add > the directories, but it wouldn't let me do that either. > > 1) Has all this been changed? Are sparse-root zones no longer an > option? Or if they are an option, how do I go about making them? Yes, there are just "zones" these days. > 2) When I boot the zone I have working, I get this: > > zone 'webphp4': WARNING: bge0:1: no matching subnet found in > netmasks(4): 192.168.0.17; using default of 255.255.255.0. > > How do I set the subnet to 255.255.255.0 so I don't get that > warning? The best thing to do is forget about shared IP zones and use exclusive. To do this, just create a vnic and give it to the zone. > 3) The OSB says not to edit the config files in the non-global zones > from within the global zone -- to log into the non-global zone, and > modify it from within itself. I'm not real GUI dependent, but I like > to have a full desktop system just for the ease of navigation > (nautilus), text editing with gedit, and things like that. If I have > to have all of my zones as whole-root, that'd mean setting up a lot > of extra software in them. Why? You don't need a GUI to manage configurations. Is it really all that bad of a practice > editing the non-global zone config files from the global zone, and > copying files directly into the non-global zones from the global > zone, or is there a more reasonable way of going about it? It's OK to do if you know what you are doing, but it's much better to manage the zone from within the zone. > 4) When I did a "zlogin -C webphp4" it asked me what kind of console > I was using. I selected the first item - I think it was ANSI. It > had a real miserable interface in the program that comes up to > configure the new zone. The fields and stuff didn't show up or > navigate very well. I could send you some screenshots, but if you've > run into this, you know what I mean. I managed to get through it, > but does anyone have any suggestions which terminal type to use from > OpenIndiana's gnome-terminal that might look better? Yes, or play safe and zlogin -C from an xterm. > 5) Finally, below is the zone info for one of my zones. This would > be running on the least powerful machine we'll have OI running on. > It has two processor cores, and 2GB RAM. I was thinking to have the > global zone having one cpu-share, and three zones with one each. Is > that reasonable? And do the rest of the settings look reasonable? I > was trying to take the advice from the OSB. I've never yet fiddles with zone CPU resources. Unless you have users or customers with some sort of quality of service guarantee, don't bother. Start with a basic, simple configuration. There's one I use for a Mercurial repository: create -b set brand=solaris set zonepath=/zoneRoot/mercurial set autoboot=true set ip-type=exclusive add net set configure-allowed-address=true set physical=hg0 end Where hg0 is a vnic. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New Zone User Questions
dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: I think I'm crazy for wanting to set up three zones on this one machine. I have specific reasons for it, so I can justify it (to myself), but when I first embarked upon this project, I wasn't even going to use zones at all, just because I didn't think I should introduce that much complexity to our set up. Only 3? We tend to use a new zone for any new service on a machine. They only take a couple of minutes to configure and boot. It's better to keep a dozen simple systems than one complex one! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] New Zone User Questions
dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Ian Collins wrote: dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: I think I'm crazy for wanting to set up three zones on this one machine. I have specific reasons for it, so I can justify it (to myself), but when I first embarked upon this project, I wasn't even going to use zones at all, just because I didn't think I should introduce that much complexity to our set up. Only 3? We tend to use a new zone for any new service on a machine. They only take a couple of minutes to configure and boot. It's better to keep a dozen simple systems than one complex one! Yes, but they also take up new IP Addresses. Not all services are outward facing, only a small minority. Those can be proxied. That's not bad if they only need to be accessed on the LAN, but what about zones that need to be accessed with static IP Addresses on the web? We have to pay the phone company extra for those. Or am I missing something here? (And that's entirely possible!) Something like http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html maybe? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] How to boot oi-dev-151a7-ai-x86.usb inot 64-Bit mode ?
x11max Unitymedia wrote: Hi, my problem is, that it is not possible to boot oi-dev-151a7-ai-x86.usb into 64-bit mode on the system I would like running openindiana on. It comes up in 32-bit mode only. On the download site there is a hint: All downloads support both 32-bit and 64-bit processors. 64-bit mode is automatically selected if at least 900 megabytes of memory (RAM) are available. The installed OS that is. I have 16G RAM installed, so more than 900 megabytes of memory are availale, but openindiana always boot in 32-bit mode. Because I have two 2TB disks installed, it is not possible to run the installer. My system information: Asrock Z68 Pro3-M Sockel 1155 Mainboard (Micro ATX, Intel Z68, 4x DDR3 Speicher, 2x USB 3.0) Intel Core i7-2700K Quad-Core Prozessor Boxed 3,5GHz, Sockel 1155, 8MB Cache 16GB RAM 2TB Disks My question now is how to run the usb installer in 64-bit mode ? Why would you want to? How to change the GRUB startup manually to point to 64-bit kernel ? The installed OS will boot 64 bit. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] solaris10 branded zones
Jim Klimov wrote: Hello all, I am currently helping evacuate data/OS from a legacy system that ran Solaris 10u3 (11/06) in a VM until recently - hypervisor host died - with tasks stuffed into a number of local zones, in whole roots over dedicated UFS SVM "partitions". The customer has decided to migrate the services ASAP into another VM on another box, which currently has Windows and can run VirtualBox, by salvaging as many bytes as possible from the old installation. Possibly, later a new dedicated hypervisor will be provided (likely ESX, or native OI+zones+VirtualBox, maybe SmartOS+KVM...) Our foreseeable options are to migrate into a new VM: 1) as is, rsync'ing the data from the old VM or even importing its disk image if that works 2) into solaris 10u8 "golden image" and possibly updating the OS parts for the local zones in the process (detact/attach -u) 3) into OI and stuff old tasks "as is" into solaris10 branded zones; maybe later migrate at least some tasks to native OI zones. I am partial to the OI variant, as it gives more flexibility with networking setup and other bonuses. What I am not sure about is the current state of affairs with the solaris10 zones: * is it enough to copy the zoneroot (whole root zones) and just run it? (the global zone was nothing but a zonehoster) Detach then attach does work. * are there limitations to the solaris 10 release which must be imported into a branded zone? I know that there may be problems due to mismatch of ZFS between kernel and zone, but it is not planned to delegate datasets into these zones at the moment. It's been a while since I last did this, but I'm sure there's a minimum patch level (update 9?) required. I imported the zones onto an update 9 VM first. * is it possible to "attach -u" or liveupgrade local zones that are branded in OI (i.e. import sol10u3 and turn it into sol10u8)? I'm sure -u isn't supported for branded zones, you have to do this on Solaris 10 first. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] solaris10 branded zones
Jim Klimov wrote: On 2013-02-06 21:20, Roel_D wrote: If the old software/services running on the old solaris didn't rely on /usr or /etc installed software (like apache/mysql/java-based software) i would suggest to only copy the software directories in newly created zones. It could take more hours to hurdle all the OS mismatches then to copy the old software or its data and maybe recompile some legacy libraries. I know, unfortunately, those were packaged commercial softwarez which took days of tuning just to get running as wanted. While reinstallation is an option, it is one they want to avoid as a lengthy downtime, or take in small steps rather than wholesale replacement of the system... So far the zones are pouring into a sol10u8 VM (apparently, it is the 10/09 release which was the base for solaris10 branded zone integrated support, and also the one which is last free from Sun). We'll think later then - if they will continue in this VM or just use it as a step to update the zones' OSes. It's well worth taking the next step. We have migrated nearly all of our Solaris and Linux VMs into zones. Much better performance and way less arse ache! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] solaris10 branded zones
Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/06/2013 09:48 PM, Ian Collins wrote: It's well worth taking the next step. We have migrated nearly all of our Solaris and Linux VMs into zones. Much better performance and way less arse ache! Are you guys doing Linux in zones? What's the status of these brands in Illumos? AFAIK, they're pretty much defunct. No, we just moved the services (databases, proxies and the like) from Linux machines into zones. Unless something really needs Linux, why use it? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Buildable distro?
Reginald Beardsley wrote: Why can't a custom distro be just a disk image created w/ dd dumped into a slice which is as large or larger? Is there so much metadata stored that this won't work anymore? If that's the case, we ought to be able to script fixing it if we know where it is. Well it could if every target machine was identical... The LiveCD is great, but there are problems it doesn't solve and sometimes what you really need is just a copy of something that works. In that case, if you have a reference system, half of a mirrored boot drive would do the trick. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Question about disk space usage on iSCSI volumes
Randy S wrote: Hi, although I am still trying to fix my multipath problem mentioned in another post I also have the following matter which maybe one of you guys can explain. I have created a zpool and a volume which has been exported via iSCSI. I want te create a script which shows me the exact free space on that particular volume. (OI 7) Sparse provisioned? Using zfs get reservation,volsize,usedbydataset,written,usedbysnapshots you get all these nice numbers while filling up the drive from a client machine. As long as you are filling up the drive, calculations seem to be parallel with the actual situation. As soon as you start deleting files and snapshots, it all becomes fuzzy, at least to me. Example, when you delete a snapshot, or all snapshots , the usedbysnapshots drops to 0 as it should. When you delete files from the iscsi volume with the client, the "usedbydataset" number stays the same, rendering the calculation: That is correct. Freeing space on the client filesystem (unless it implements SCSI UNMAP) does not free space the volume. The volume has no way of knowing the space has been freed. Now I read somewhere (a long time ago) that zfs has a certain mechanism to release free space to the system, I just cannot find the article anywhere now. So that is why I want to ask anybody here to explain to me how I could go about this. The easiest(!) way is a follows: - Make sure the zvol has compression enabled. - Create a filesystem on the client with compression off. - Within that filesystem, fill the free space with a file of zeros (this will compress to nothing on the volume): dd if=/dev/zero of=dummy bs=1048576 & unlink dummy When the dd finishes, you will have the same free space on the client and server. The unlink makes sure the dummy file disappears when the dd fills the client. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Problem with bge driver
Ricardo NA wrote: I found in this page http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Ethernet+Networking that a Broadcom NIC 5719 is supported with oi 151a7. In that page you can read "bge 15.4.3". So I assume this is the driver version from Broadcom wich I downloaded and tried to install. (BRCMbge- Solaris_11-i386-15.4.3.pkg) OI should have a driver built-in for these types of NICs so why do you download another one from Broadcom? Haven't you tried OI's one first? Yes I tried plain vanilla oi 151a7 but the nic is not recognized. In fact in the wiki page a month before was stated that the broadcom 5719 is not supported and in fact there is a feature request: https://www.illumos.org/issues/3446 about this. But last week it appears as supported with the text: "bge 15.4.3" so that's why I tried installing the broadcom driver. Was this a Dell server adapter by any chance? if so, the path of least resistance is to get Dell to swap it for an Intel one -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] abandoned support for OpenOffice, Miozilla Firefox, Adobe Flash, etc.
jlan...@cox.net wrote: For your consideration: > > Support for several programs that I really enjoy has been > discontinued for the OpenSolaris / OpenIndiana platforms. It won't > be long before FireFox 3.6.12 becomes unacceptably obsolete ... and > OpenOffice 3.1.0 ... and Thunderbird 3.2.4 ... and Adobe Flash ... > and ?? The unfortunate result is that with no continuing support from > software providers, OpenIndiana is gradually drifting toward > obsolescence. What's wrong with contrib releases on http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases? Flash is dead on most platforms. Recent OO packages can be found here: http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1201/download -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] abandoned support for OpenOffice, Miozilla Firefox, Adobe Flash, etc.
cpforum wrote: Message du 10/02/13 05:03 De : "Ian Collins" Flash is dead on most platforms. Flash is not dead on Linux. The release is frozen but you still have security updates. It is dead (due to no support on mobile devices) from a web developer's perspective. Even Adobe have stopped developing Flash creation tools and moved to HTML5. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Slow zfs writes
Ram Chander wrote: Hi, My OI box is expreiencing slow zfs writes ( around 30 times slower ). iostat reports below error though pool is healthy. This is happening in past 4 days though no change was done to system. Is the hard disks faulty ? Please help. Does iostat -xtcMn 10 show any anomalies such as long wait times or high %b? Your pool configuration is a bit odd, I assume this isn't a production system? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Slow zfs writes
Ram Chander wrote: So it looks like re-distribution issue. Initially there were two Vdev with 24 disks ( disk 0-23 ) for close to year. After which which we added 24 more disks and created additional vdevs. The initial vdevs are filled up and so write speed declined. Now how to find files that are present in a Vdev or a disk. That way I can remove and re-copy back to distribute data. Any other way to solve this ? Please stick to one list or cross-post, multi-posting tends to waste responder's time. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ISCSI SSD Performance
Grant Albitz wrote: Local dd results: write 268.343296 GB via dd, please wait... time dd if=/dev/zero of=/PSC.Net/dd.tst bs=2048000 count=131027 131027+0 records in 131027+0 records out real 3:09.8 user0.1 sys 2:40.1 268.343296 GB in 189.8s = 1413.82 MB/s Write 131027+0 records in 131027+0 records out 268343296000 bytes (268 GB) copied, 146.209 s, 1.8 GB/s real2m26.215s user0m0.202s sys 2m24.469s so I am getting expected results locally. The network infrastructure is as follows: 2 esxi hosts with intel x520 10g Ethernet cards. They are directly connected via twinx cables to intel x520 network cards in the zfs box. So there is no switch in between. Mtu is set on the zfs host as well as the esxi hosts to 9000. Results from both esxi hosts are the same. Since I can get 700-800MBps write, you would assume the link could handle more than 350MBps read... There may be some vmware issue I am hitting, but I had the same setup before with slower disks and I netted better performance in vmware. Are there any settings in Comstar I can look at that could be causing this? Have you tried the connecting to the volume form another IO host to eliminate vmware as the cause? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ISCSI SSD Performance
Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:58 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:37 PM, Ian Collins wrote: Have you tried the connecting to the volume form another IO host to eliminate vmware as the cause? Second that. The 9k MTU might also be hitting some NIC driver bugs - non-standard settings can, at times. Since the difference is only in the storage -> VMware direction, I suspect there may be some trouble there (perhaps VMware not being entirely okay with how OI is handling the 9k MTUs?). One more thing comes to mind: if all else fails, try to disable flow control. Sometimes it can mess up throughput, if the receiving NIC erratically sends too many TX frames - can be a driver issue in VMware, though this is quite a long stretch. Anyway, right now I suspect VMware might be the culprit here. The number of kittens that have to be slaughtered to get such a high packet switching performance from VMs to storage is astounding. Which is one reason the visualised world should be using SmartOS! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ISCSI SSD Performance
Ian Collins wrote: Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:58 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/16/2013 11:37 PM, Ian Collins wrote: Have you tried the connecting to the volume form another IO host to eliminate vmware as the cause? Second that. The 9k MTU might also be hitting some NIC driver bugs - non-standard settings can, at times. Since the difference is only in the storage -> VMware direction, I suspect there may be some trouble there (perhaps VMware not being entirely okay with how OI is handling the 9k MTUs?). One more thing comes to mind: if all else fails, try to disable flow control. Sometimes it can mess up throughput, if the receiving NIC erratically sends too many TX frames - can be a driver issue in VMware, though this is quite a long stretch. Anyway, right now I suspect VMware might be the culprit here. The number of kittens that have to be slaughtered to get such a high packet switching performance from VMs to storage is astounding. Which is one reason the visualised world should be using SmartOS! Virtualised :) -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ISCSI SSD Performance
Grant Albitz wrote: Setting the MTU to 1500 did not affect read speeds but it cut my write speeds in half. Flow control on or off did not make any difference. The cable is somewhat ruled out because I am seeing the same exact performance on 2 different esxi hosts. Have you tried a native OI client yet? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ISCSI SSD Performance
Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 02/18/2013 05:18 AM, Grant Albitz wrote: I would like to discuss one more item: Based on the writes below vs the reads it seems like I am able to get more data out of a w/s as apposed to a read per second. I may just be misunderstanding the results but the disks themselves are rated for higher read performance then write. I am just wondering if there is a zfs tunable I can play with. The disks seem have much more queued up during writes then reads as well. time dd if=/dev/zero of=/PSC.Net/dd.tst bs=2048000 count=131027 r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 c1t24d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 c2t0d0 0.0 1057.20.0 89869.6 0.0 9.60.09.1 1 67 c1t0d0 0.0 1057.20.0 89852.5 0.0 9.60.09.1 1 67 c1t1d0 0.0 1057.40.0 89946.6 0.0 9.60.09.1 1 66 c1t2d0 0.0 1057.00.0 89912.4 0.0 9.60.09.1 1 67 c1t3d0 0.0 1038.00.0 87068.1 0.0 9.50.09.1 1 66 c1t4d0 0.0 1037.20.0 87015.8 0.0 9.50.09.1 1 66 c1t5d0 0.0 1037.00.0 87076.6 0.0 9.50.09.2 1 66 c1t6d0 time dd if=/PSC.Net/dd.tst of=/dev/null bs=2048000 r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 c1t24d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 c2t0d0 884.10.0 38373.30.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 13 c1t0d0 873.70.0 38425.60.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 14 c1t1d0 883.50.0 38399.90.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 13 c1t2d0 875.10.0 38408.20.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 13 c1t3d0 876.50.0 38528.10.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 13 c1t4d0 880.70.0 38520.20.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 14 c1t5d0 874.90.0 38510.40.0 0.0 0.30.00.4 1 13 c1t6d0 That PERC H710 is probably really messing with your results here. First of all, the transparent compression of SSDs seems to be helping you out in the first instance. You'll need to circumvent that sucker (e.g. by writing compressed files). Next, I suggest you get rid of that H710 if possible, stick the H310 in and configure it in JBOD mode - we can try to resolve the driver issues, there's been some work in Illumos on this lately, so you might be able to build some custom driver modules (or I can do it for you). I agree with Sas's comments on the 710. If you have driver problems with a 310, try Solaris 11 as an experiment to verify performance, I have a number of Dells with 310 in JBOD mode running Solaris and they work well. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana roadmap
Jesus Cea wrote: On 28/01/13 02:43, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Jesus Cea wrote: Is out there an OpenIndiana Roadmap?. In particular, I am VERY interested in a security supported version. How much are you willing to pay for this service? Oracle charges $1k/year per socket. I would actually pay something. But consider this: * I can't deploy OpenIndiana without some kind of security updates. * I have tons of clients evaluating OpenIndiana, being amazed by ZFS and DTrace, but can't consider seriously since there is no security plan. An OpenIndiana future goes thru an official OI release, with security fixes for a while. Those markets are, currently, closed for OI. About how costly this could be, Red Hat is a huge business. And we could follow a major Linux release, like Debian or Ubuntu, to track security notifications/patches. Maybe even a community security supported version. The popular Linux distributions all have a commercial backer, OI does not. It's as simple as that. There are other Illumos based distributions that do have a commercial backer, maybe you would be better off with one of those? It's a reflection of commercial reality that those distributions focus on specific market segments. It would be nice to have a backed general purpose OS to rival Solaris, but the demand doesn't seem to be there. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What to do with 4k sector SATA drives... All fixes are for SCSI drives only!!??
Hans J. Albertsson wrote: i think I've just got a problem because of machine age! if I can muster enough courage ok, well, being retired, what can harm me now? I have my sata controllers in that machine in ide mode... gaah.. Will I have to export/backup the entire thing to another disk, and reconfigure and import/recv/something back, or can I just change the SATA mode and recreate the devices and dev trees from a live cd w/o loosing the rpool? You should be able to export the pool, reconfigure the controller and then re-import the pool. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Question regarding Supermicro motherboard compatibility
{sorry about top-posting, crap webmail client!}
I'm running Solaris on a X9DRH-7TF, which looks to be basically the
same electronics except for the 10G NICs.
Everything works well.
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Subject:[OpenIndiana-discuss] Question regarding Supermicro
motherboard compatibility
Hi guys,
I'm building a new storage rig and I'm considering basing it a new
motherboard by SuperMicro, the X9DRW-7TPF+
http://www.supermicro.nl/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DRW-7TPF_.cfm
The on-board dual 10GE SFP+ ports make this a particularly attractive
board for iSCSI targets.
Does anybody have any experience with this board? According to the OS
compatibility matrix, though, "Solaris" is a no-go on this, so I'm
assuming Illumos/OI won't work either (or haven't been tested).
Any insights into this would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Anyone using OpenIndiana in production?
Gerry Weaver wrote: Hello All, I have been checking out OpenIndiana as a possible file server and KVM host. I have read in a couple of places that the OS is stable despite its development release status. Would anyone be so kind as to share their experiences using OpenIndiana in production? My testing so far shows it to be rock solid. BTW: Many thanks to those who are putting the hard work into this. I think it has a lot of potential. It may not be an appropriate answer on this list, but SmartOS looks like a better fit if you want a platform focused around KVM support. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Anyone using OpenIndiana in production?
Gerry Weaver wrote: Hi Ian, I actually looked at SmartOS, but it seems to be going in the cloud direction. I was looking for a base to build an intranet vdi solution on. Thanks for the pointer though. Which is what we use SmartOS for... -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Anyone using OpenIndiana in production?
Gerry Weaver wrote: Hi Ian, I've been doing the virtualization thing for a long time (since before it was cool). During that time, I have found what works best for me. I don't mean to criticize, but it lacks the perspective of someone who deals with maintaining a virtual environment on a daily basis. What's "it"? My reply, SmartOS, OI? Maintaining virtual environments is a part of my day job. I was planning to port something that is already running on Linux to OpenIndiana. That being said, I would be glad to discuss it further with you, if you're interested. That depends what it is, I've been though the porting pain enough times to be cautious! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] weird C++ problem
Apostolos Syropoulos wrote:
Hello everybody,
I was trying to compile a program and one file failed to compile
with g++ 4.7.2 but it compiles with CC: Sun C++ 5.12 SunOS_i386 2011/11/16.
The following little program reproduces the error I got initially:
#include
#include
using namespace std;
namespace KPS {
extern "C" {
#include //it includes another header that eventually
} // included this header.
}
using namespace KPS;
int main() {
std::string x;
string y = "abcdef";
cout << y << endl;
}
What options did you pass to the compiler? The snippet compiles fine
with gcc 4.5.2 (Solaris 11) and 4.6.2 (SmartOS).
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] 3737 days of uptime
Edward Ned Harvey (openindiana) wrote: Patching is extremely safe. But let's look at the flip side. Suppose you encounter the rare situation where patching *does* cause a problem. It's been known to happen; heck, it's been known to happen *by* *me*. You have to ask yourself, which is the larger risk? Applying the patches, or not applying the patches? Extremely safe on anything OpenSolaris based! Hands up all those who've bricked a Linux system or had a Solaris 10 system that wouldn't play with live upgrade. -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS exported dataset crashes the system
Paul van der Zwan wrote: When it hung the system would not respond to anything at all. The only way out I could find was a hard reset or power cycle. I do have the following in /etc/system: set snooping=1 set pcplusmp:apic_panic_on_nmi=1 But that did not make a difference. BTW the hang was/is reproducable, everytime I ran a make buildworld inside the VM it would hang. I have tried a few make buildworlds now that I use NFSv4 and no hangs so far. Had you tried decoupling the VM host from the NFS storage? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenSXCE 2013.05 for SPARC released
ken mays wrote: Greetings, OpenSXCE2013.05 for SPARC EA was just RELEASED. Nice. Maybe next time start a new tread so the announcement doesn't get lost! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] WD reds any good for ZFS RAIDZ pools?
Christopher Chan wrote: On Saturday, June 08, 2013 05:23 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: For these large drives, raidz2 is recommended, as the likelihood of a second drive failure during a rebuild starts to get pretty high. What's wrong with striped mirrors? raidz2 does not like random i/o. I happen to run raidz2 and regret it now. Nothing much, it's just that 3TB drives can take a long time (days) to resilver on a moderately busy pool and raidz leaves you exposed to a second drive failure during that process. There's still a risk of two dives in one mirror failing, but that would be less than the raidz case. If someone is willing to suffer the performance of raidz, raidz2 is definitely a better choice! -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [zfs] problem on my zpool
Clement BRIZARD wrote: The first resilvering repported 2 faulted drives, I shutdown the server (directly via the button) the second worked with no error zpool status pool: nas state: ONLINE scan: resilvered 1.45G in 5h34m with 0 errors on Wed Oct 23 20:18:47 2013 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM nas ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz1-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c8t50024E9004993E6Ed0p0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c8t50024E92062E7524d0ONLINE 0 0 0 How did you end up with a mix of full drives and partitions in your vdev? -- Ian. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] Shopping for an all-in-one server
Jim Klimov wrote: Thus the box we'd build should be good with storage (including responsive read-write NFS) and VM hosting. I am not sure whether OI, OmniOS or ESX(i?) with HBA passthrough onto an illumos-based storage/infrastructure services VM would be a better fit. Also, I was away from shopping for new server gear for a while and its compatibility with illumos in particular, so I'd kindly ask for suggestions for a server like that ;) SmartOS would be a good fit if you are combining storage with KVM. USB booting also saves a couple of drive slots! The company's preference is to deal with HP, so while it is not an impenetrable barrier, buying whatever is available under that brand is much simpler for the department. Cost seems a much lesser constraint ;) HP's bundled RAID controllers can be a problem, make sure you can get something with IT firmware, or at least JBOD support. I am less certain about HBAs (IT mode, without HW-RAID crap), and the practically recommended redundancy (raidzN? raid10? how many extra disks in modern size ranges are recommended - 3?) That all depends on the number of drives and the workload. Also i am not sure about modern considerations of multiple PCI buses - especially with regard to separation of ssd's onto a separate HBA (or several?) to avoid bottlenecks in performance and/or failures. SSDs can be SATA and the hard drives SAS. Finally, are departmental all-in-one combines following the Thumper ideology of data quickly accessible to applications living on the same host without uncertainties and delays of remote networking still at all 'fashionable'? ;) They are with Joyent! Buying a single purchase initially may be easier to justify than multiple boxes with separate roles, but there are other considerations too. In particular, their corporate network is crappy and slow, so splitting into storage+server nodes would need either direct cabling for data, or new switching gear which i don't know yet if it would be a problem; localhost data transfers are likely to be a lot faster. I am also not convinced about higher reliability of split-head solutions, though for high loads i am eager to believe that separating the tasks can lead to higher performance. I am uncertain if this setup and its tasks would qualify for that; but it might be expanded later on, including role-separation, if a practical need is found after all. You can easily get all you are after in a 4U all in one. Keep the system simple if you can. PS: how do you go about backing up such a thing? Would some N54L's suffice to receive zfs-send's of select datasets? :) Another, low spec Illumos box with plenty of storage. Performance won't be an issue, so you can use wider raidzN vdevs to boots capacity. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [OmniOS-discuss] Shopping for an all-in-one server
Jonathan Adams wrote: On 3 June 2014 17:18, ken mays via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: Point is there are a few options and custom servers or the cheap ones on eBay for <$500 (i.e. Dell R710 or similar)... minor nit. the Dell R710's have Broadcom network cards that didn't play nice in Solaris 10, needing a reboot to fix them when they decided to suddenly stop. they seem more stable in OI, but I feel it's worth mentioning. My experience was the opposite, they worked OK in Solaris 11, but were unreliable with Illumos... Well worth avoiding, Dell will swap them for Intel, at least they do on 720s. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bash bug issue
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: It is always good to execute 'gmake check' before installing sofware that comes with a test suite. Some bash tests seem to fail. If you check the comments printed by the tests, it looks like the "failures" seen on Solaris based OS are expected. I've been using 4.1.15 build on Solaris 10 for most systems. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] use cases of Sun Studio-compiled C++ libraries on OI
Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Hello. I'd like to hear about people who now hardly depends on Sun Studio-compiled C++ libraries AND use OpenIndiana. Do you have software which can't be recompiled with GCC? Do you know commercial software which depend on the libraries? I mean the following OI packages: database/postgres/library/c++/libpqxx library/c++/glibmm library/c++/libxml++ library/c++/net6 library/c++/obby library/c++/sigcpp library/c++/stdcxx library/desktop/c++/cairomm library/desktop/c++/gtkmm library/desktop/c++/mm-common library/desktop/c++/pangomm I'd like to drop them and replace by g++-compiled (incompatible) versions. Who will be affected? If you are building modern code (that adheres to C++11), the difference should be moot. Studio 12.4 in C++11 mode uses the g++ ABI and the g++ 4.8.2 run time library. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Solaris Studio on OpenIndiana
Rick C. Hodgin wrote: Hi. I'm new to Solaris and OpenIndiana. I heard about it on the comp.lang.c group because I was told SunStudio and later had a fix-and-continue compiler. I was able to download OpenIndiana from the link below, and install Sun Studio through the package manager. It works great, but I'm finding some limitations in using it as a developer tool. I was hoping someone could help me setup Solaris Studio 12.4. When I went through adding the publishers, and tried to add it through the package manager, I get lots of errors regarding packages that should come from solaris which instead come from openindiana. One way to run Studio 12.4 on something other than Solaris 11.2 is to use the tar ball download. To get it to start on OpenIndiana with openjdk, you will have to edit the launcher (bin/solstudio) and change 'java version' to 'openjdk version' in the function GetJavaVersion(). You will also need the system headers package installed (sudo pkg install system/header). This was tested in a VirtualBox VM, installed from OI-hipster-gui-20150330 updated to latest packages (to get openjdk7). -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: What is the recommended approach to back up a zfs root pool? For other pools I use zfs send/receive and/or rsync-based methods. The zfs root pool is different since it contains multiple filesystems, with the filesystem for one one BE being mounted at a time: This means that there are multiple filesystems which would need to be backed up in order to save a replica of the pool. At the moment I am using rsync-based backup of only selected filesystems. If you don't intend reverting to older BEs (they are probably useless after a while anyway), remove them. I have always used zfs send/receive to back up the root pool. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?
Gary Mills wrote: On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 05:54:05PM -0800, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Oh, and just for a note, USB is *not* like writing another type of driver. The entire USB framework is a scary beast all of its own, and sadly it also uses & abuses STREAMs. Implementing a modern USB3 stack should really be done by creating a new nexus framework, and converting some of the leaf drivers to it. Our entire USB framework really needs some serious lovin’. But again, its just a problem finding priority and skills in confluence. Clearly, rewriting the USB stack is a big project. Is there any way that this can be broken down into pieces? If that were possible, several people could work on different aspects of USB at the same time without affecting eachother. Starting the project would be simpler too. I have had a good look (at Garrett's suggestion) and it is a lot of work. USB3 is more than just an incremental step over USB2. It would be big job even if the underlying, notoriously poor performing, USB framework were retained. I'd say it is impractical to attempt on a part time basis. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Support for USB3?
Rich Teer wrote: On Thu, 5 Nov 2015, Jonathan Adams wrote: USB is good for ZFS on Linux (useful to set the ashift on a backwards compatible Solaris 10 zpool), but it's not really "prime time". Just so that I'm absolutely clear, would I be correct in thinking that eSATA is preferred over USB-3, assuming SAS isn't an option? eSATA works with Illumos, USB3 isn't supported. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: Support for USB3?
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I have wondered if it is possible for Illumos to detect USB-3 hardware which has a USB-2 emulation mode and re-initialize it to USB-2 mode so that it can work with existing USB-2 drivers. Currently one is faced with using vendor-specific BIOS menus to hopefully put USB-3 interfaces in USB-2 mode in order to plug in keyboard and mouse. I'll have a look a some controller data... -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: OP == "Original Poster"? If I am the OP, then my interest is in the best way to preserve and restore root pool configuration (and some user data) in case the OS needs to be installed with the same or a very similar OS from scratch. In this case it is not normally necessary or desirable to restore operating system binaries, but portable configuration (e.g. from an OpenSolaris or Illumos-based system) needs to be restored in a safe way. If the root pool is not restored as a full replica (e.g. from zfs send stream), then it is necessary to use a package manager to install former required packages and apply any previous local configuration. Are people who are backing up their root pools backing it up as a full replica image, or are they only capturing configuration data? If one was to use an off-site backup like 'tarsnap', how would it be used to restore a root pool? I use a two level backup/DR strategy. 1) Replicate the entire pool so a system can be rebuilt "as is" if something goes horribly wrong. 2) Make /etc a mercurial repository and push it to another host. This allows me to track file changes and quickly recover if I stuff something up. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What is the recommended way to back up root pool?
Alexander Pyhalov wrote: Ian Collins писал 11.11.2015 07:43: 2) Make /etc a mercurial repository and push it to another host. This allows me to track file changes and quickly recover if I stuff something up. Have you looked at fsvs? It also tries to preserve permissions. We have backup/fsvs in OI Hipster repository. I haven't used it actively on Solaris/illumos systems, but it works rather good on our Linux servers. I haven't, no. I prefer the distributed model used by mercurial or git to Subversion. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSD as a dedicated swap device
Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: I have only occasional need to run problems larger than main memory > (16 GB at present), so I can't justify replacing all the DRAM for an > infrequent need. The drop in SSD prices has me contemplating adding > a 128 GB SSD as a swap device. The SSD latency and IOPS specs look > as if they might be a useful compromise. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? The sort of jobs I'm > interested in are batch processes that take several hours, not > interactive tasks. Even an SSD will be way slower than RAM.. At present rpool is a ZFS 3 way mirror. It's become a bit unclear to > me if it is still possible to control the swap device independently > of other parts of the system contained in rpool. Back in SunOS 4.x > days I ran with a pair of swap partitions spread across two disks > which got me twice the performance on large array operations. I don't think you can add the drive as a drive, but you could create a pool with a single volume on on it and add that volume with "swap -a /dev/zvol/dsk//. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI roadmap (for production)
Stefan Müller-Wilken wrote: Sorry, Nicola, but is _this_ the kind of problems that should be > discussed in the OI community? I would have thought there are more > serious subjects to ponder... There is only one of you writing, but many reading. That's why decent threading and quoting is important on technical lists! -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSD as a dedicated swap device
Andrew Gabriel wrote: On 11/12/2015 20:45, Ian Collins wrote:. I don't think you can add the drive as a drive, but you could create a pool with a single volume on on it and add that volume with "swap -a /dev/zvol/dsk//. Adding a swap partition or slice from a drive worked just fine last time I did it. You don't have to swap on ZFS (and there have been some good reasons not to in the past). It's been a long time since I tried adding a swap device! The man page for swap isn't clear whether a disk partition/slice is supported with ZFS root. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] SSD as a dedicated swap device
Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Having been a witness to the conflicts over adding virtual memory to > Minix I find it ironic that the accepted practice now is to include > virtual memory in the OS, but not use it. For a long time everyone > used BSD because it had virtual memory and Sys V did not. Eh? every contemporary desktop/server OS has and uses virtual memory. The need for backing store for swapping is much less these days, but it is still used and supported. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Posting inline
Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: Nikola, > > First of all, I do not understand what you are trying to say. I > suggest that taking more care in your expression would help. None of > the other respondents seem to have agreed on your intended meaning, > so I don't think I'm alone. His gripe is twofold: 1) Some poster's messages (including yours) appear as replies to the original post in a thread, not to the actual message being replied to. This completely disrupts the flow of a thread. 2) A general dislike of top-posting, which, to a lesser extent, also disrupts the flow of a thread. Both of these appear to be due to incorrectly configured mail clients. The second may be a matter of (bad!) taste. The first, being uncommon, is more than likely a problem with the client. As the oft quotes Usenet adage says: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What's the most annoying thing on Usenet and in email? -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] very slow zpool
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2015, Martin Frost wrote: Any thoughts about what could be causing the slowness? Run 'iostat -xe' in order to see if a disk is reporting errors or is abnormally slow. I'd extend the options to get the pool summary and repeat every 30 seconds or so to see if any drive is holding up the pool: iostat -xetcMn 30 -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] very slow zpool
Martin Frost wrote:
Oh, here's iostat output from after I stopped the slow scrub just now
(with more activity than I expected so maybe someone is working late
on New Year's Eve).
Martin
tty cpu
tin tout us sy wt id
0 83 0 4 0 96
extended device statistics errors ---
r/sw/s Mr/s Mw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot
device
0.13.20.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.2 0 0 0 0 0 0
c3t0d0
0.33.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.3 0 0 0 0 0 0
c3t1d0
0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 0 0 0
c3t2d0
0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 0 0 0
c3t3d0
95.10.02.00.0 0.0 0.50.05.5 0 19 0 0 2 2
c1t5000C50035063BC3d0
Something is doing lots of small reads, possibly soaking up most of your
read IOPs. The transport (trn) errors are unexpected, is there anything
in the system logs?
dtrace -n 'syscall::read:entry { @Execs[execname] = count(); }'
Should give you hint regarding the reads.
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Ian.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] LibreOffice4 updated 4.4.7.2
Thomas Wagner wrote: Hi all, LibreOffice4 is updated to 4.4.7.2 (prev: 4.4.5.2) I'm looking for testers, so please install and try a few things in LO. In any case I would like to hear from you if you had success or errors. Repo/Install instructions here: http://sfe.opencsw.org/libreoffice-4.4.7.2 If you feel the package is running fine, then don't hesitate to spread the word! Thank you for this Thomas and for still supporting the few of us still using Solaris as a desktop :) No problems so far on Solaris 11.3. Cheers, -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Disk re-labelling and zfs
Jim Klimov wrote: Unless i'm missing something, your case is a simple one of the zfs rpools being bound to a saved device path. So grub does find your pool and boots up the kernel+miniroot (module) and passes the device path string from the chosen hdd to the kernel, but the solaris/illumos kernel can not validate this string and find a device by it, because the controller is different. Unlike other pools, the rpool does not seek by name, guid, etc. You have to use a live image or firefly failsafe to simply import-export the rpool after you migrate to a new controller. That process has always worked for me. -- Ian. ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
