[OpenIndiana-discuss] Distributor License for Java retired
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Distributor License for Java retired
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana (or others) and Dell E6320 - Sandybridge
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 00:43, Ned Lewis wrote:
> After I started reading about illumos and OI, I thought it would be good to
> try again. I think these projects have a lot of potential, and I'd love to
> see them succeed, so maybe I can help out in some small way. I figured as a
> first step, I'd install on a simple laptop and spend time trying to get the
This shouldn't be seen as a specific complaint against anyone or
against OI and I for one appreciate all the hard work the people
developing OI and Illumos do, just ruminating a little on life with OI
as a non-developer.
Unfortunately right now out here on the cutting edge, I find it is
either heaven or hell. ZFS works brilliantly and the core OS is rock
solid...but something as seemingly simple as getting Samba to work
defeated me, and that's the samba that was in the repository. I gave
up after two days and used SMB CIFS. Granted, the latter is probably
the better way to begin with but it irks me to fail. For my purposes
Samba would have been easier. If it hadn't been so much harder. :)
Then I started trying to get Squeezebox Server to work (it's a really
great way to stream music both to Squeezebox hardware and shoutcast
clients, just a very nice open source app to serve Logitech's hardware
that they bought off Slim Devices). It's generic Perl with some
plugins and I still bounced off that one. Granted the problem was that
the software needs specific aging versions of specific plugins and I
installed the latest; haven't given up on that yet and plan to clone a
zone for that and try again but still - even the build method and
script they have available for more esoteric operating systems throws
up its hands immediately when it sees "SunOS". There are no ready-made
install scripts and the like for anything like that for OI as a rule,
so you wind up doing a lot of manual work.
Today I wanted to install a bittorrent client. 1.93 of Transmission is
in the repository, but the current is 2.33, so back to the compiling
we go. There, I was temporarily stymied by libevent in the repository
being 1.3 or some such - either way, it was below the version 2.0 or
higher that Transmission wanted. Thankfully that at least compiled
easy and I installed that manually too and then Transmission compiled
too with some warnings.
But that's sort of how it is - if it's in the repository and someone
else has done the heavy lifting, you're usually good to go if you have
the hardware to support the OS. If it's not in the repository or it is
moldering and ancient and you want the new version, you wind up doing
a lot of heavy lifting.
I also looked at Deluge as an option for Bittorrent, but gave up on
that immmediately when I saw the prerequisites list. Had I been on any
Linux I could have just grabbed a package, of course, but even to
compile from source would have been facilitated by grabbing the
following line they graciously provide in the "how to compile"
section:
sudo apt-get install python python-twisted python-twisted-web2
python-openssl python-simplejson python-setuptools gettext intltool
python-xdg python-chardet python-geoip python-libtorrent python-notify
python-pygame python-gtk2 python-gtk2-dev librsvg2-dev xdg-utils
python-mako
I haven't looked at how much of that is in OI or how much pain it
would have caused to get it there, but bottom line is that there would
have been pain, either more or less of it.
I'm a big Solaris fan (certified on it, even), was instrumental in
getting Nexenta used as a storage solution at work quite recently and
obviously I like OpenIndiana too since I'm using it actively in spite
of all these niggles, but... if there was such a thing as Linux with a
proper ZFS implementation I probably would jump ship for a home server
environment. Just because it would be so much easier to be a little
more mainstream. I don't like working this hard in my spare time, it
gets so that you go to work and relax after a long weekend. :-D
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hi - can anybody help me get OI installedthe way I'd like?
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 06:21, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
>
> Can you elaborate? Is the fragmentation due to ZIL writes to the same pool
> competing with regular writes? If one disables sync mode entirely, does the
> same apply?
Personally I hadn't actually given the notion of the ZFS fragmentation
issues any thought at all since I've never really done "serious"
databases on ZFS but I did some digging after Kris's excellent remark
there. This blog entry seems to go into some detail:
http://wildness.espix.org/index.php?post/2011/06/09/ZFS-Fragmentation-issue-examining-the-ZIL
"For the issue not to come again, the solution is to add a mirrored
(or not) log device to the pool, this way, the ZIL transactions are
written to this device and don't fragment the data vdevs of the pool."
So I stand corrected, if you do a database on ZFS you apparently
ideally want a ZIL device.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] X11 Forwarding.. Can't Open Display
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 19:35, Kimmo Jaskari wrote:
> Currently, I can make X forwarding work from the global zone, but not
> a non-global zone... even after installing xauth in that zone (on my
> previous tries in the previous OS install, it was already there.) The
> closest I've gotten is to have packagemanager just exit quietly (xming
> + putty and a trial version of SecureCRT).
Just thought I'd post a brief update to this in case anyone has ideas;
after installing and compiling Transmission, I found that the
transmission-gtk binary runs fine and works in X using Xming tunneled
through ssh.
packagemanager, however, just starts and then immediately exits
quietly, no output from it that I can detect. This is in a zone, I
should add. In the global zone, it runs.
Fortunately getting it to run isn't necessary since I usually work in
a shell on this machine, but sometimes it would be nice to be able to
browse the packages graphically in a zone too, so if anyone has ideas
I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana (or others) and Dell E6320 - Sandybridge
You are apparently unaware of oi-sfe: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/SFE+IPS+Repository That has Transmission 2.2. It isn't up to 3.* yet because 3.1 had serious problems, and it's not clear to everybody that those have been fixed. On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 16:23 +0300, Kimmo Jaskari wrote: > Today I wanted to install a bittorrent client. 1.93 of Transmission is > in the repository, but the current is 2.33, so back to the compiling > we go. There, I was temporarily stymied by libevent in the repository > being 1.3 or some such - either way, it was below the version 2.0 or > higher that Transmission wanted. Thankfully that at least compiled > easy and I installed that manually too and then Transmission compiled > too with some warnings. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers
On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:20:03PM -0400, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 10:00 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: > > > Please post it to the SFE mailing list > > > (pkgbuild-sfe-de...@lists.sourceforge.net) to have someone commit > > > it to the SVN repo for you. I've done that, about a month ago. So far, nobody has reviewed my spec file or committed it. > Thank you for your work on ISC DHCP. I look forward to seeing that spec > at SFE. I do too, but it seems unlikely now. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana SFE repository: Call for testers
Sorry. Someone else actively involved with SFE knows much more about daemons on Solaris than I do. He said that your spec looks very thorough and that he would review it later. I guess that must have slipped his mind. I'll remind him about it if he doesn't see your latest message. Please note that this is an SFE matter and has nothing to do with OpenIndiana. OpenIndiana only becomes potentially involved once a spec makes it into the SFE repository. On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:50 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 01:20:03PM -0400, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 10:00 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: > > > > Please post it to the SFE mailing list > > > > (pkgbuild-sfe-de...@lists.sourceforge.net) to have someone commit > > > > it to the SVN repo for you. > > I've done that, about a month ago. So far, nobody has reviewed my > spec file or committed it. > > > Thank you for your work on ISC DHCP. I look forward to seeing that spec > > at SFE. > > I do too, but it seems unlikely now. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana (or others) and Dell E6320 - Sandybridge
I'm so new to OI that I don't really qualify to have an opinion, but I had to chuckle at Kimmo's post because it sounded so familiar. I started with slackware when it first became available... and there of course was lot of that sort of thing.. and the fact is the same " with early versions of SunOs using Sun's compiler and lots of dependenciesthere were apps that were hard to deal with. Sort of like "welcome to 1991"! If enough people are involved these things ought to get better over time. One thing that did strike me was his point that we work hard and often don't want to spend too much time coding and figuring out complicated workarounds in our spare time. That could happen to me... I do tend to try to have my hobbies be non-computer related. Ned ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
