Re: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy--->Buy against other traders

[Metroid X]

Yaah Pak JT,
ngapain juga ditanggepin Pak.

TA dan FA tak perlu dibela.

On 3/1/09, JsxTrader  wrote:
> Saya tau itu statement orang, bukan statement anda, jadi yg saya bilang
> arogan orang tsb…., kenapa saya bilang arogan.., karena TA sdh DITERIMA di
> DUNIA dari jaman bahela sampe sekarang, sdh proven puluhan tahun, melewati
> beberapa krisis, perang dunia, etc….bahkan di jepang sdh dipakai ratusan
> tahun yg lalu (candle stick), TA dipergunakan oleh jutaan orang diseluruh
> dunia, bukan Cuma retailer, tapi big name such as Bloomberg and Reuters juga
> mengakui keberadaan TA…, oh ya ada juga asosiasinya internationally ,
> anggotanya dari banyak negara  termasuk indobesia…., belum lagi buku-buku TA
> yang bertebaran dimana-mana…. etc, etc……, yang ingin saya katakan…., apakah
> mereka semua BODOH??, dikibulin sama ilmu yg namanya TA?? Come oon….
>
>
>
> Jadi, kalau ada yg bilang; ahhh TA bullshit, gw udah check pake computer,
> itu bo’ongan!!.., menurut saya itu sama aja dengan MENGANGGAP jutaan orang
> pengguna TA diseluruh dunia BODOH… dan itu pemikiran yg AROGAN menurut saya,
> karena dia merasa hanya dia sendiri yg tidak bisa dibodohin…. Hehehe
>
>
>
> Mengenai penjelasan.., anda mau penjelasan apa nih?.., kalau anda mau
> penjelasan PASTI harga mau kemana, anda akan kecewa Bu…., karena TA tidak
> pernah bicara kepastian, TA bicara probabilita..
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>
>
> Bottom line, silahkan aja sih kalau tidak percaya TA, saya sendiri juga
> termasuk yg skeptic thd TA tertentu.., misalnya EL WAVE, tapi saya ngga
> berani bilang itu ngawur.., itu ilmu yg sdh lama ada dan banyak dipakai
> banyak orang kok…, masak mereka semua sebodoh itu sih…, mungkin saya-nya aja
> yg blo’on dan ngga nyampe otaknya…. Hehehe
>
>
>
> BTW, bukannya anda suka posting Chart Juga…, hmmm, anda setengah hati
> rupanya…., jangan setengah-setengah Bu, kalau ngga yakin ya jangan
> dipaksakan, kalau yakin silahkan diperdalam, kalau setengah-setengah bisa
> berbahaya buat trading anda, karena itu akan bikin anda bingung dan
> frustrasi.
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> JT
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> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Felicia Rumondor
> Sent: 01 Maret 2009 13:21
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy--->Buy against other
> traders
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>
> Jadi artinya pak JT bisa menjelaskan secara pasti bagaimana cara kerja TA2
> itu? boleh juga pak kalau ada penjelasannya, ini kan pendapat orang lalu di
> test lewat computer dan hasilnya tidak match.. Coba penjelasannya pak JT
> hihi kalo bisa mah jgn pake foolish2an...thx
>
> --- On Sun, 3/1/09, JsxTrader  wrote:
>
> From: JsxTrader 
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy--->Buy against other
> traders
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 5:48 AM
>
> Ok, jadi strategy-nya BUY against trader? Pertanyaannya Trader yg mana nih,
> kalau yg dimaksud Big Brother, saya malah senengnya ngebonceng mereka…
> hehe…, tapi kalau yg dimaksud “against trader” adalah Counter Trend
> Strategy…, I couldn’t agree more…
>
>
>
> Btw, Statement dibawah sangat arrogant kalau tidak mau dibilang FOOLISH…,
> karena sama aja dengan menganggap orang lain pengguna TA diseluruh dunia
> BODOH.., dan menganggap dirinya paling pinter sedunia…. Hehehe..
>
>
>
> “I had heard about technical analysis and chart patterns, and looking at
> this stuff I would say, what kind of voodoo is this? I was very, very
> skeptical that technical analysis had value. So I used the computers to
> check it out, and what I learned was that there was, in fact, no useful
> reality there. Statistically and mathematically all these tools —
> stochastics, RSI, chart patterns, Elliot Wave, and so on — just don’t work.
> If you code any of these rigorously into a computer and test them they
> produce no statistical basis for making money; they’re just wishful
> thinking.
>
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> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
> ps.com] On Behalf Of Felicia Rumondor
> Sent: 01 Maret 2009 11:20
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] change your strategy--->Buy against other traders
>
>
>
>
> change your strategy:
>
> -Lupain FA deh--> Bozz itu jago vermak n bikin cantik
> -Lupain TA juga--> Bozz itu jago gambar
>  mengutip dari tulisan orang :  “I had heard about technical analysis and
> chart patterns, and looking at this stuff I would say, what kind of voodoo
> is this? I was very, very skeptical that technical analysis had value. So I
> used the computers to check it out, and what I learned was that there was,
> in fact, no useful reality there. Statistically and mathematically all these
> tools — stochastics, RSI, chart patterns, Elliot Wave, and so on — just
> don’t work. If you code any of these rigorously into a computer and test
> them they produce no statistical basis for making money; they’re just
> wishful thinking.
> -Lupain rumours---> Bozz juga hobi nge gossip
> -Buy 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Wah... milis OB disebut di TVone pagi ini

[Metroid X]

Adler nebeng ngetop Mbah... kekekek

2008/10/13 sulistyo_winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Mbah... tambah ngetop aja. Salam
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Re: [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Buat BUMN yg MAU BUY BACK ......Re: Spekulan mengincar SMGR !!! + HAJAR KANAN

[Metroid X]

yup setuju
asing sih bukan keluar... tapi keluar masuk keluar masuk

salam cuan besar akhir taun? akhir taun berapa nih? haiheaiahaiehaia

2008/10/13 Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Utk *FX Broker* – tentunya setahu saya mereka melihat *Global + Reg
> market* jg bgm perkembangannya sebenernya – selaen aspek fundamental itu
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> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Terry Astradika
> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 5:54 AM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [SPAM][obrolan-bandar] Buat BUMN yg MAU BUY BACK ..Re:
> Spekulan mengincar SMGR !!! + HAJAR KANAN
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> investor rata2 akan lari tunggan langgang saat suatu negara
> mengalami 'riot', real investor sebaliknya, akan mencari peluang di
> tengah2 kecamuk tersebut..
>
> sori..ini gw baca dari buku..
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> kalu lihat kejadian saat ini, di saat real investor mau berencana
> masuk ke den bei..., investor rata2 malah panik pada keluar..
> hahaha.. memang unik dunia ini..
>
> ciao! salam cuan besar akhir tahun..!
> TerryAstradika
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Tommy Jayamudita"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 1998 pasar tidak pernah disuspend, mungkin Anda berpikir kalau saat
> ini disuspend asing benar-benar kapok. Pasar modal yang pernah
> disuspend itu tidak hanya BEI yang sampai hari ini baru 3 hari, Hong
> Kong pernah 2 minggu tapi dana internasional tetap bercokol di sana
> sampai kini.
> >
> > Ketika 1998 banyak yang mengatakan Indonesia sudah bangkrut dan
> asing sudah keluar semua, anehkan kalau saat ini ternyata masih
> banyak dana asing bertahan di sini.
> >
> > Masalah asing takut dananya terkunci, sejak dekade 80an investor
> asing yang berinvestasi di China (termasuk di pasar modal, di sana
> ada board khusus transaksi foreign investor) dikunci dananya selama
> 20 tahun tidak boleh keluar termasuk keuntungannya, tapi investasi
> asing naik terus dari tahun ke tahun. Mengapa tidak takut dikunci?
> Mungkin Anda bisa mendapat jawabannya sendiri.
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IMF: World now has a plan

[Metroid X]

Namanya IMF kok bikin ill feel. Sukanya muter2 di sekitar masalah aja.

Mending China caplok US aja deh.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 7:14 AM, sulistyo_winarto <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Semoga minggu ini rebound. Harapan.com
>
> World lender confident governments will avert meltdown
> By MarketWatch
> Last update: 5:00 p.m. EDT Oct. 12, 2008
>  Comments: 2067
> WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- International Monetary Fund Managing
> Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn said Sunday that leading economies now
> have coordinated, detailed and comprehensive plans to resolve the
> severe credit crisis.
> He said almost all of the affected nations now have taken strong
> action to shore
> up their financial sectors.
> Strauss-Kahn made the remarks at a press conference Sunday following
> two days of intense talks on two continents.
> Strauss-Kahn also expressed support for an action plan hammered out
> Sunday in Europe by leaders of the euro-zone nations. See full story.
> He said the moves were "exactly the type of action" that is needed to
> reassure very jittery markets.
> "We will see tomorrow" what the market reaction is, but "I am
> confident," he said.
> On Saturday, the IMF director had said policymakers from around the
> globe were united in their resolve to avert a global financial meltdown.
> Although the talks in Washington this weekend haven't come up with the
> specific solutions needed for each nation, the whole world is
> committed to do whatever it takes to unfreeze credit markets,
> Strauss-Kahn said.
> "No one is going to let an important financial institution fail," he
> said.
> The IMF also specifically endorsed the plan of action put forth Friday
> by the Group of Seven nations, which calls for public funds to
> recapitalize banks. Critics said the G7 plan was woefully short on the
> specifics needed to calm jittery investors.
> Although different countries may use different methods, they are all
> resolved to act as needed, said Youssef Boutros-Ghali, head of the
> IMF's International Monetary and Financial Committee. "No tool will be
> spared."
> Even as urgent talks continued in Washington, authorities in the
> United Kingdom were preparing to unveil the specifics of their plan to
> recapitalize its banking sector, according to a report in The Wall
> Street Journal. See full story.
> Working against the clock
> Many observers say the officials are working against the clock, with
> global markets set to open on Monday, with or without a credible plan
> from the world's governments.
> The plan put forth by the Group of Seven on Friday was seen by many as
> only a first step.
> President Bush urged global finance leaders on Saturday to work
> together quickly on a "serious global response" to "the serious global
> crisis" in credit markets.
> Top policymakers from the Group of 20 largest economies were meeting
> later Saturday to work on a coordinated response to calm markets that
> have been shaken by massive losses and bankruptcies.
> "We're in this together. We will come through this together," Bush
> said Saturday after meeting with finance leaders of the G7
> industrialized nations at the White House.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BINGUNG BERITA BAKRIE..............

[Metroid X]

Pak,
ini taktik ninja yang bikin kabut dulu sebelum nyerang.
emang sengaja dibuat sebanyak mungkin rumor skenarionya.
itu aja penjelasannya.

untuk jelasnya ya musti tanya bung ical sendiri dong (itu aja dengan asumsi
dia ngga boong... wuih asumsinya beratt...)


2008/10/13 qasuaribo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Saya bingung baca berita seputar grup BAKRIE.
>
> Mulai dari ;
> - akan menjual salah satu anak perusahaan
> - akan menjual seluruh anak Perusahaan
> - BUMI akan BUY BACK 20% sahamnya
> - akan buyback seluruh anak usaha
> - minta disuspen lagi selama masa penjualan anak usaha
> - .???
>
> Berita-berita dari detik.com, okezone, koran ID, dll.
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> Ada yang bisa bantu menjelaskan .??? Tks
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> Analisa Dengkoel;
> STREET TRADER.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sepi Pasar Menjelang Idulfitri

[Metroid X]

Ya iya lah Mbak...

Yang kena pentung udah pusing
Yang dapet coan udah kabur
Dua-duanya dah siap libur (atau malah udah pada belibur?)

Kalo situasinya seperti taun kemarin dan kemarinnya lagi sih, mo libur pun
dijabanin deh nongkrongin price quote

2008/9/26 Anna Rainsakina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Salam Para Trader,[image: :)]*
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> Nilai transaksi saham di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) pada tiga hari terakhir
> ini berangsur menipis, karena pemodal cenderung memilih tidak masuk pasar
> menjelang libur panjang Idulfitri.
>
> Seiring dengan penurunan indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG), nilai
> transaksi saham kemarin menyusut menjadi Rp2,82 triliun.
>
> Angka ini lebih dari separuh rata-rata transaksi harian dalam dua pekan
> terakhir ini, yang mencapai Rp4,45 triliun. Kapitalisasi pasar saham di BEI
> kemarin mencapai Rp1.492,86 triliun.
>
> "Pemodal lebih cenderung tidak bertransaksi menjelang Lebaran, sehingga
> nilai transaksi agak slow down," ujar Orias Petrus Moedak, Presdir PT
> Reliance Securities, ketika dihubungi Bisnis, kemarin.
> http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/1id81292.html
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> Informasi Liannya : *Empat sekuritas ikuti seleksi buyback saham 
> Antam
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>*Predikisi : Dekati 
> Lebaran
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)

[Metroid X]

Pak, itu gambarnya kalau pake pitchfork jadi gitu.
Kalau pakai fibonacci beda lagi.
Jadi relatif dong ya.

IHSG bukannya mo pingsan... tapi mau mudik... banteng ama beruangnya
bersilahturahmi dulu sebelum berantem lagi.. heuhehehe

2008/9/26 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> IHSG WARNING (1870 - 1900)
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> Dowjones tadi malam naik +1,8%
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> Jika hari ini IHSG engga bisa naik  diatas 1900, berarti
> IHSG udah LOYO BANGET mau pingsan !!!
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> http://www.invest2000.net/piwihsg.png
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG WARNING ( 1870 - 1900)

[Metroid X]

Kalau gambar saya fibo jangka pendek buat rally ke level sebelum crash
gelombang 3 sejak mid mei (kayak umptn.. pake gelombang), masih di
1807-1810... mirip2x deh pak jos.

Mbah:
Gambar update jam 11.30 baru jelas mbah... yang versi pagi rupanya masih
under construction.
Relatif ya relatif di support levelnya. Konklusinya ya sama aja.. posisi
siap terjun payung.
IHSG hari ini ya jelas gak bisa ke atas 1900, dow ijo-nya ternyata bola
kedut aja.
Setelah dow tutup, sorenya baru berita jeleknya pada muncul, ya bailout-nya
yang masih diperdebatkan dan salah satu bank savings&loan terbesar
(washington mutual) gulung tiker (penutupannya lebih cepet dari praktek
normal).


2008/9/26 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Pak Metroid,
> kalo pake Fibo pun sekarang masih di 38.2 jadi masih jauh dari Fibo 50.
> Kemungkinan rebound masih besar, titik kritis ada di Fibo 50 kurang
> lebih index 1820. Jika tertembus kebawah artinya GOOD BYE...
>
> rgs,
> JM
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Metroid X" 
> > wrote:
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> > > Pak, itu gambarnya kalau pake pitchfork jadi gitu.
> > > Kalau pakai fibonacci beda lagi.
> > > Jadi relatif dong ya.
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> > Menurut analisa anda:
> > - Kalo pake Fibonacci apa Kesimpulannya ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI buy back 145 juta saham

[Metroid X]

Asyik... pelor udah dibagi-bagi...

2008/9/26 M Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Bumi udah buyback 145 juta lembar saham dari total 582 juta program
> buyback. apakah akan dinaikin nanti oleh Om Ical dan teman 2 ???
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA

[Metroid X]

Wahuahua.. apa2an nih.

Prediksi biasanya bener kalo semua dah pada lupa.
Kalo masih fresh from the oven biasanya sih rawan kena kocok.

2008/9/26 Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Kalau main saham harus yakin sama diri sendiri. Jangan salahin tbumi.
> Hari Senin akan lanjut, jadi tenang aja. Masak harus naik terus,
> istirahat dulu pulihkan tenaga. Sopir bis lagi capek, kebanyakan narik
> penumpang mudik
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> On 9/26/08, Hubert Nice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Setuju Pak Agus ! Pak Tbumi perlu mempertangungjawabkan predikisinya yang
> > tidak akurat, maaf, jangan asal ngomong saja Pak Tbumi!. JIka tidak
> memahami
> > trading jangan ikut-ikutan memprediksi, nanti ngawur melulu.
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> > --- On Fri, 9/26/08, agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > From: agoes_htm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 4:33 AM
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> > Ayo minta tanggung jawab sama pak Tbumi tuh. Jangankan 1500, 200 aja
> > sebelum liburan kayaknya ga tercapai.
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> > Ayo pak Tbumi buktikan merahmu.. hehhehe..
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Yanuar Mustofa
> >  wrote:
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> >> jangan 145 ..tp di 120 aja.
> >> heheheh
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> >> kasus CPRO mau terulang kembali nihsiap2 jd investor kacilakan lg
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> >> - Original Message 
> >> From: Bambang Setiawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> >> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >> Sent: Friday, 26 September 2008 15:11:49
> >> Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
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> >> udah 159 pak. apa tunggu lagi di 145 
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> >> --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
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> >> From: Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> >> Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
> >> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 12:57 AM
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> >>
> >> Tungguin aja di 165. Ntar juga dikasih
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> >> On 9/26/08, Andrian Siagian <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:
> >> > ah mana buktinya. banyak bolak-balik di 175 aja dari tadi. hehehehe...
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> >> > On 9/26/08, M Herman  wrote:
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> >> >> info dari salah satu broker yg main trub ..
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> >> >> --- On *Thu, 9/25/08, Febry Hariyannugraha  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >* wrote:
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> >> >> From: Febry Hariyannugraha 
> >> >> Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TRUBA
> >> >> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> >> >> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:53 PM
> >> >>
> >> >> Jangan2 info Pak T Bumi hehehehehe :)
> >> >> Resistance TRUB sebenernya masih jauh di 220 ... jadi kao 200 ...
> >> >> technically make sense sih ...
> >> >> Good luck deh ...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] QUIZ for investor (Banking sector)

[Metroid X]

Kalau sekilas pilih BDMN... ROE bersaing dengan price multiple yang tidak
terlalu tinggi.
Prakteknya tergantung di lapangan bursa.

2008/9/27 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> ROE ranking:
> - BBRI, BBCA, BDMN, BMI: 29, 23, 22, 18%
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> PBV ranking:
> - BMRI, BDMN, BBRI, BBCA : 1,9  2,5  3,4  3,8
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> PER ranking:
> - BMRI, BDMN, BBRI, BBCA : 10, 11, 11, 16
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> - Bank mana yg akan dibeli dan apa alasannya ?.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] LOGO BEI

[Metroid X]

wahaha
iya yang buat logo kurang ati2x kayaknya
mustinya kayak BI ya... biru bulet... biar makmur

2008/9/29 ardiarifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Ada yang tau filosofi logo BEI? Saya melihatnya koq seperti
> menggambarkan bursa yang berdarah2 dan tercabik2 ya?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG 1780 --> TUTUP REKENING !!!.....Re: Bursa Asia udah ejakulasi lagi pagi ini

[Metroid X]

plus 2009 taun pemilu lagi ya...


2008/9/29 er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  ini udh bukan waktunya buat investor.., europe lg maen rescue2x-an ,
> rupanya demam di amrik skrg udh landing di europe., oil ancur, gold
> ancur, euro vs usd jg ancur, rupiah klo jebol lg ke 9.450 bisa ke 9.750
> targetsuster ngesot mulai dateng lagi...
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> 2008/9/29 Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>   brarti Investor dalam bahaya besah ya EMbah ?
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>> 2008/9/29 er1ck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>   tutup temporary mbah ato selamanya kalo index toel2x 1.780 ?
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>>> 2008/9/29 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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   Coba perhatikan:
 - IHSG cuman -5 saat ini TAPI:
 - Saham saham yg jumlah bid-offernya GEDE dibikin
 MINUS dan
 - Saham saham yg engga likwid yg jumlah bid-offernya KECIL
 dibikin NAEK tinggi.

 Kesimpulan:
 - Saham BC yg likwid DIJUAL dan yg engga likwid dinaekin buat
 bikin IHSG engga jatuh banyak.
 - Jadi ADA yg mau cari UNTUNG ngeshort saham yg RAME ditradingkan
 dengan ongkos naekin saham engga likwid.

 Makanya kalo sampe IHSG 1780 --> TUTUP REKENING !!!


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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 1780 --> TUTUP REKENING

[Metroid X]

there's more than meets the eye...


2008/9/29 bayu murti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Bukanya di bursa banyak SULAPAN mbah... mata sering ditipu
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> Penjelasan mbah masuk akal...
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> Tapi konsekwensinya IDX bisa nyungsep dunk...
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> sekarang aja pada di distribusi...
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> ngiler juga liat PGAS, pengen buyback
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> --- Pada *Sen, 29/9/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*menulis:
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> Kalo dollar menguat terus ARTINYA ada YG BORONG 
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> Kalo teori bilang Dollar bakal melemah, tapi KENYATAANNYA
> DOLLAR NAIK TERUS, PASTI yg GEDE lagi masuk ke USD (ENGGA usah
> teori teorian dah, BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE and NOT what you think or
> what you analyse based on teori).
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> Mungkin banyak yg lagi SIAP SIAP beli saham sektor Finance di US
> saat Bail Out disetujui..
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> > --- Pada Sen, 29/9/08, jsx_consultant  menulis:
> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
> > Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 1780 --> TUTUP REKENING
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> > Tanggal: Senin, 29 September, 2008, 8:02 AM
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> > > > bnr kl di bawah 1780, tutup rekening??? :))
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> > > > tp kan byk yg ngaku professional trader bilang bumi bisa 8000,
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> > Mending kalah daripada ada yg BUNUH DIRI lagi, kalo BD kabur
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> > lagi di BC LIQUID maka Grafik Capital Flow akan jadi JELEK,
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> > kalo Grafik Capital Flow jadi jelek maka IHSG di INTERVENSI
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cramer: Too Much Negative is a Positive (BUY)

[Metroid X]

ah cramer bukannya suka banyakan hebohnya


On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:55 AM, James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Cramer: Too Much Negative Is a Positive
>  Posted By:Tom Brennan 
> Topics:Housing  | Stock
> Picks  | Stock 
> Market
> Sectors:Travel and Leisure 
> | Food and Beverage  |
> Retail  | Financial 
> Services
> Companies:Carnival Corp  | FedEx
> Corporation  | United Parcel
> Service Inc  |Kimberly-Clark
> Corp  | HJ Heinz 
> Company
>  | Research in Motion Limited
>  |Apple Inc  | Best Buy Co
> Inc 
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> http://www.cnbc.com/id/26510603
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> When market expectations are this low, expect to be surprised. In fact,
> start buying.
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> That was Cramer's message for Monday's show. A *story in this morning's Wall
> Street Journal  *–
> about how stocks won't see a full rebound until the middle of 2009 – today
> has him thinking that negative sentiment on Wall Street is "totally
> overblown."
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> A longstanding Mad Money rule has been that when these types of stories
> start to appear in the paper, investors should break out their stock
> shopping lists and get ready. Because despite all the talk, the market's
> ready to move.
>
> How does Cramer know? Well, for one thing the housing index, HGX, is up big
> to 131 from its 52-week low of just under 94. That's a great sign. It would
> be hard to have any kind of legitimate recovery as long as housing was
> unable to find its footing.
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> Also a model for dealing with failing banks is coming to shape. Just look
> at Regions Financial's acquisition of Integrity. The FDIC keeps the bad
> loans and Regions buys the good parts that are left. This should keep the
> number of foreclosures hitting the market at lower than expected, which is
> an extremely positive development.
>
> Cramer's also a firm believer that lower gas prices – maybe as much as $3 a
> gallon? – will boost consumer spending, propping up for names like *Best
> Buy*[BBY  45.791.02  (+2.28%)   ] , *
> Apple *[AAPL  166.19-3.34  (-1.97%)   ]
>  and*Research in Motion* [RIMM  118.35-3.25  (-2.67%)   
> ]
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> Deflation is key here, too. As commodities decline in price, the Federal
> Reserve can worry less about raising interest rates, in turn saving banks
> and maybe even keeping mortgage rates low enough to draw some bargain
> hunters into the housing market.
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> Commodity costs, specifically their decline, also helps the companies that
> were forced to raise prices when those costs were higher. Because the
> companies won't reduce prices in tandem with that decline. That means more
> profits and better-than-expected earnings. Watch for reports from *Heinz*
> [HNZ  52.051.73 (+3.44%)   ] , *
> Kimberly-Clark* [KMB  62.881.20  (+1.95%)   
> ]
> , *UPS *[UPS  65.01   0.89  (+1.39%)   ] 
> , *FedEx* [FDX  84.671.85  (+2.23%)   ]
>  and *Carnival Cruise* [CCL 39.132.07  (+5.59%)   
> ]
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> "I think there are just too many positives, including the pervasive
> negativity," Cramer said, "for you to be really bearish right now. The turn
> you saw earlier today when the Dow was up big is for real – although it was
> up too much – so don't be fooled by the decline that followed."
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Terawang Elty

[Metroid X]

siapa setuju 380?

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:47 AM, C‡st♥™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear OBers
> Para suhu mohon pencerahan resistance Elty dibrapa yach?
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> TIA
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> Sent From My buss|Berry(R)
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] FREN??MEDC??

[Metroid X]

fren masih kurang friendly lah pak

sekarang ini umumnya sekali dua kali maju depan suka langsung mundur lagi
(kecuali bbca ama btel kali ya.. tapi gak umum). beruangnya lagi maen
catenaccio


2008/9/3 Medwin Steven Sietho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  trus FREN nya gmn?hari ini main sector apa nih?
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> --- Pada *Sel, 2/9/08, Hannavi Boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* menulis:
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> Dari: Hannavi Boss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FREN??MEDC??
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Selasa, 2 September, 2008, 12:37 PM
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>  Maaf PAk Medwin...
> wie uda buang Medc ya..
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> --- On *Tue, 9/2/08, Medwin Steven Sietho <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>* wrote:
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> From: Medwin Steven Sietho <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] FREN??MEDC??
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 3:24 PM
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> tanya donk, FREN DAN MEDC gimana untuk minggu ini?bisa naik atau malah
> melorot? thx
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