Re: [ob] SCENARIO BESAR.........

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Yakin kalo dibikin AR kiri banyak yg bakal nyamber?? Yg ada nanti pada 
ngibrit wong baru diturunin 10 % aja udah banyak yg 
terkencing-kencing... Hehe..


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From: "Yudizz" 

Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:03:01 
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Mbah, ikut urun pendapat aja.

 

Tercatat sejak Bakrie Group rally dari lowestnya, market sudah kena gocek
2x, yang pertama tanggal 22 April, yang kedua 15 Mei lalu. Posisi saat ini
retailer udah gatel buat belanja, karena menunggu koreksi yang tak kunjung
datang. Kalo diombang-ambing seperti ini terus, market jadi takut.
Distribusi nggak efektif saat market fear.

 

Kalo BD Bakrie berani gocek sekali lagi model kaya kemarin (sampai dibikin
AR kiri), saya yakin banyak yang bakal kalap untuk nyamber. Jadi saya kira
ini skenario pamungkas buat BD Bakrie untuk cuci gudang, ditanggung laris
manis. CMIIW..

 

Regards,

Yudizz

 

 

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Poling IHSG ke 2000, kemarin IHSG HIGH 1940 jadi 60 point lagi
udah ke 2000 atau cuman +3% doang. Cuman +3% aja diurusin, paling
cukup buat beli baso semangkok dimakan bareng ama pak AA..

Yg lebih penting group Bakrie, besok bisa untung 20% atau rugi
20%... hehehe...

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yahoogroups.com, "Yudizz"  wrote:
>
> Lho jadi ini skenarionya BULLISH toh? Kirain masih bearish.
> 
> 
> 
> Waduh, Yudizz salah posisi nih. Gawat gawat, gajah makan kawat..!!!
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> Regards,
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> On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:15 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ 
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> Subject: [ob] SCENARIO BESAR.
> 
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> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> yahoogroups.com, baruna rido  wrote:
> >
> > Kaya sebuah truk kita supir truk telat nurunin gigi. truk akan
> dimundurkan/turunkan lagi untuk ancang2 supaya truk bisa naik lebih tinggi
> lagi. 
> > 
> 
> Coba kita JABARKAN ide anda ini:
> 
> - Objectnya adalah BUMI, BUMI mau diangkat, saat ini banyak yg
> Kejebak BUMI ketika BUMI turun dari 2300, jadi diambil cara
> DIDORONG dengan: 1:IHSG/Q45, 2:Saham pemanis dan 3:saham sector yg sama:
> 
> 1. IHSG: IHSG diangkat ampe HIGH 1941 +39
> 2. Saham pemanis diangkat:
> - ENRG: HIGH +90 +24%
> - ELTY: HIGH +55 +22%
> - DEWA: HIGH +30 +15%
> - BNBR: HIGH +8 +10% 
> - BTEL: HIGH +12 +9%
> 3. Saham sector yg sama diangkat:
> - MEDC: HIGH +450 +16%
> - ITMG: HIGH +1600 +9%
> - PTBA: HIGH +650 +6%
> 
> Hasil pendorongan:
> - BUMI: HIGH +95 +5%
> 
> Terlihat hasil pendorongan BUMI tidak optimal yaitu hanya +5%.
> 
> Ini yg membuat BD mengambil PLAN B yaitu MUNDUR DULU untuk
> MAJU KEMBALI..
> 
> Pada saat mundur dia melakukannya secara BRUTAL agar para
> trader Cut Loss untuk meringankan gerbong.
> 
> HIPOTESA pak Baruna ini MASUK AKAL dan bisa menjelaskan secara
> LOGIS kenapa IHSG diturunkan tajam saat IHSG sudah MAU MAEN.
> Jadi IHSG sudah mau maen tapi BUMI belum mau maen, tapi
> karena OBJECT hajatan adalah BUMI dan bukan IHSG maka terpaksa
> IHSG dibumi hanguskan dulu...
> 
> Angka seratus buat pak Baruna. Scenario kemarin sudah lebih jelas.
> 
> Ada yg mau nyanggah hipotesa pak Baruna ?.
>

 




Re: [ob] VOOT: WTS:: Moge Yamaha R1-2003-Red-white. Tq Admin. End.

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Wah mau dilipet jadi saham nih... Hehe...


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Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB --> OTAK yang Bearish, :D

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
WaHahaha..., double bottom jempol dong..., haha, double top aja Bill, sek 
'Volumenya' trus tarik garis dari dua 'titik' untuk ukur trendnya..., hehe

pesan ane untuk anak muda, jangan main bawah dulu lah, BHSH aja dulu 
Kekekeke...


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Pesan dari Oom,..

buy and hold, nanti satu saat akan semakin higher high dan kalo billy udah
lihat pola double bottomnya, maka bisa nyopet dikit-dikit sampai tembus
resisten. Kalau udah tembus, silahkan cangcuters but always play safe!

Regards,
DE

Pada 30 Mei 2009 18:12, billy_wta  menulis:

> wah, lama2 jadi OB (Obrolan Bejat) nih, hahahaha, iya dah I udah nangkep
> maksudnya sekarang kok, gak bakal I gitu kok, I masih takut sama Tuhan kok,
> :D
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> Moga2 jadi makin seger dah abis dari weekend di TA ya, hahahhaa
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> > Paling juga tangan yang ke mana2
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> > 2009/5/30 Ruz7 :
> > > Bill, forget market this weekend.
> > > Pergi pacaran sana, Play Safe yah..
> > > Kek..kek..kek..
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> Bearish, :D
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> > > Yes, I know, mungkin beberapa hari ini I agak kurang bisa dikontrol
> emosi dan ego-nya, sudah terlalu banyak tugas di sekolah yang harus
> diselesaikan menjelang pembagian rapor, belum lagi mau mengurus alumi, blog,
> memantau saham, dan lain2nya, oh my God, I am so tired dan jadi mudah
> tersulut emosinya, makanya beberapa hari ini kalau posting apa2 I jadi
> terkesan beda dari biasanya dan cepet marah, bukan karena sombong, tapi
> mungkin karena badan yang udah terlalu capek, otak yang udah diperas buat
> kerjain tugas sekolah yang menumpuk, Otak Billy mungkin yang lagi bearish
> kali ya, hahhahahaha
> > >
> > > Anyway, dengan weekend hari ini, moga2 pikiran ane jadi lebih seger dan
> siap trading untuk hari senin nanti. Apalagi my girlfriend hari ini ultah,
> moga2 makin seger dan jadi happy
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Re: [ob] REKOMENDASI

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
No..no.., saya yakin itu kebetulan aja, ngga ada yg asli atau palsu lah.., 
siapapun boleh pakai nick jsxtrader.., memang banyak yg nyasar, tapi I am sure 
bukan salah dia..., karenanya saya hanya bisa memberikan pemberitahuan saja 
kepada teman2 agar tidak salah kira...
   
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Mr.JT, saya pernah lihat tuh blognya:
http://jsxtrader.blogspot.com/
pikirnya ente punya. . ternyata palsu...
kasihan yg kejebak ama perangkap org tsb.
mgkin anda hrs perkarakan tuh org..kasus pencemaran nama baik..




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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 22:51:52
Subject: Re: [ob] REKOMENDASI





yang lucu ada salah satu peserta workshop saya yg tanya langsung kesaya 
bagaimana cara joint milis saya, dia tanya duitnya di tranfer kemana? Trus kalo 
udh joint dapet apa?? Nah loh. Kagok juga saya wkt itu.., hehehe.. 


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From: Rei 
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:46:02 +0700
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Duh repot juga ya boss...itulah resiko org ngetop! :-)
Salah itu org kenapa bulat2 nelen rekomendasi org juga...kan mesti 
dilihat/disesuaikan dgn trading plan dia.


2009/5/29 JsxTrader™ 

All,

Kebetulan lagi rame nih soal rekomendasi- rekomendasian. ..., barusan saya di 
tlp seorang teman, ada yg complain katanya kemarin JsxTrader suruh lepas semua 
posisi.., eh ternyata hari ini malah naik... orang tsb katanya ngomel-ngomel 
abis dan ngata-ngatain ane Weleh..weleh. . Padahal ane lagi and masih 
bullish... Dan gak pernah kasih rekomendasi tsb.

Usut-punya-usut, ternyata orang tsb ikut satu milis berbayar yang nick dan nama 
groupnya sama dengan nick saya... Dan die pikir itu saya... Hmm.

Supaya tidak salah, sekali lagi saya ingin sampaikan bahwa Saya, JT dengan 
alamat email jsxtra...@yahoo. com, tidak punya MILIS BERBAYAR dan tidak 
memberikan jasa rekomendasi harian apapun baik melalui email apalagi SMS.

Demikian sekedar memberitahu agar tidak terjadi salah paham :)

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JT
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Re: [ob] ...akumulasi bkn distribusi

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Kita harus pede.., selama punya alasan yg jelas, namanya bukan tebak2an..,  
kecuali kalo ngga ada alasannya.., baru namanya tebakan.., urusan salah atau 
benar itu urusan lain.., ngga perlu malu apalagi ngotot.., siap salah is a MUST 
for a Trader..


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kl liat dji resist di 9100 an. liat pola kayakmya mau kesana. jd ihsg jg mau ke 
resist berikutnya yaitu 2200an. jd bd skr lg akumulasi bukan distribusi.  
sy ikut p jt bd lg akumulasi bkn distribusi. bisa aja salah namanya jg tebak.com

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Re: [ob] ...akumulasi bkn distribusi

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Yakin mau lepas segitu.. ? Ngga nyesel? Hehehe 

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Kalau gitu senin sy lepas di 520 aja deh, hahahah

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> *NYALI juga harus GEDE...!
> Kemaren saya aja ngelepas ENRG di 465...!
> 
> Ngeledekin Prof JT neh... hihihi... [?][?][?]
> (makanya kemaren ane nanya, kenapa lepas di 445...?)
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> 2009/5/30 JT™ 
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> > Kita harus pede.., selama punya alasan yg jelas, namanya bukan tebak2an..,
> >  kecuali kalo ngga ada alasannya.., baru namanya tebakan.., urusan salah
> > atau benar itu urusan lain.., ngga perlu malu apalagi ngotot.., siap salah
> > is a MUST for a Trader..
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> > mau ke resist berikutnya yaitu 2200an. jd bd skr lg akumulasi bukan
> > distribusi.
> > sy ikut p jt bd lg akumulasi bkn distribusi. bisa aja salah namanya jg
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Re: [ob] ...akumulasi bkn distribusi

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Hehe, biasa.., niatnya mau swing.., yg ada malah suing.. Hehe.., but that's ok, 
I still got plenty.., meskipun tdk maksimal.., sebenernya saya berani buy back 
at higher price, tapi karena weekend, saya coba menahan diri..., let see hr 
senin bsk, kalo ada opportunity kita masuk lagi.. :) 
 
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Iya nih. Tumben Pa JT spt ini. Bukannya utk jd diatas average trader hrs 
sedikit extreme? Spt kalau soal2 tuh kalau kiri ya kiri kanan ya kanan agar 
nilai lbh bagus :)

Apa krn di AR kanan terlalu besar offernya? 


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Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:01:35 
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*NYALI juga harus GEDE...!
Kemaren saya aja ngelepas ENRG di 465...!

Ngeledekin Prof JT neh... hihihi... [?][?][?]
(makanya kemaren ane nanya, kenapa lepas di 445...?)
*

2009/5/30 JT™ 

> Kita harus pede.., selama punya alasan yg jelas, namanya bukan tebak2an..,
>  kecuali kalo ngga ada alasannya.., baru namanya tebakan.., urusan salah
> atau benar itu urusan lain.., ngga perlu malu apalagi ngotot.., siap salah
> is a MUST for a Trader..
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> kl liat dji resist di 9100 an. liat pola kayakmya mau kesana. jd ihsg jg
> mau ke resist berikutnya yaitu 2200an. jd bd skr lg akumulasi bukan
> distribusi.
> sy ikut p jt bd lg akumulasi bkn distribusi. bisa aja salah namanya jg
> tebak.com
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Re: [ob] REKOMENDASI

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Loh saya sdh ada kok, tapi banyakan nongkrong diwarung mbah ini.., hehe..

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Saran sy prof.. Bikin lg aja yahoogroup khusus prof JT yg namanya sama jsx 
trader..
Biar orang2 makin bingung.. Jadinya mereka bs curiga ada something wrong..
Ga mentah2 ketipu jadinya..
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Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:58:33 
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Iya iya bukan Pak JT, tapi Mr J_T

Memang ga semua rekomendasi kasih cuan, ada CL nya juga.
Kan sdh diajarin MM sm J_T nya.

Indeksbei3000®


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Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:54:38 
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Bukan temen gua.., tapi temennya temen gua yg langganan rekomendasi harian 
tsb.., anyway itu bukan gua ya... Hehe..

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Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:50:28 
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Memang secara TA signalnya jelek, jadi harus Lepas semua.
Kemarin disuruh beli ITMG, sekarang Cuan...teman Pak JT complain ga ?
He he ..

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Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:44:15 
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All,

Kebetulan lagi rame nih soal rekomendasi-rekomendasian, barusan saya di tlp 
seorang teman, ada yg complain katanya kemarin JsxTrader suruh lepas semua 
posisi.., eh ternyata hari ini malah naik... orang tsb katanya ngomel-ngomel 
abis dan ngata-ngatain ane Weleh..weleh.. Padahal ane lagi and masih 
bullish... Dan gak pernah kasih rekomendasi tsb.

Usut-punya-usut, ternyata orang tsb ikut satu milis berbayar yang nick dan nama 
groupnya sama dengan nick saya... Dan die pikir itu saya... Hmm. 

Supaya tidak salah, sekali lagi saya ingin sampaikan bahwa Saya, JT dengan 
alamat email jsxtra...@yahoo.com, tidak punya MILIS BERBAYAR dan tidak 
memberikan jasa rekomendasi harian apapun baik melalui email apalagi SMS.

Demikian sekedar memberitahu agar tidak terjadi salah paham :)

Regards,

JT
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Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Maksudnya Pak Ruddhass begini pak:

Selama 'bertahan' ya pasti ngga ke 1600 kan hehe.., tapi kalau tidak kuat 
bertahan, maka sangat bisa ke 1600... Hehe, betul ngga sih...

Jadi Keyword nya 'bertahan' pak.., hehe..

JT
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-Original Message-
From: Rei 

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:04:53 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB


Di bursa tidak ada kata pasti pak...anything is possible.
Siapa yg bisa jamin kalo setelah bertahan di atas 2000 selama 1 bulan tidak
akan balik lagi ke bawah? Yg namanya Bozz punya kekuatan mematahkan
seluruh kepercayaan/kebiasaan yg ada di pasar modal :)

2009/5/31 ruddhass 

>
>
> Sebenarnya kalau kita baca satu satu, syarat2 untuk ISHG batal ke 1630,
> dari yang di tulis oleh Billy, harusnya kita setju 100%
>
> Terutama no 3, ini yan terpenting, "ISHG tembus 2000 dan bertahan di level
> itu"
> artinya kalau tembus bertahan di level 2000, pastinya ga bakal ke 1630..
> Atau kalau jatuh ke 1630 artinya tidak bertahan dong di level 2000..he..he
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> ARRAY27 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Banyak banget prasyaratnya? Klo kebalikan No.4 saja yang terjadi,
> jangankan
> > 1630, 1089 juga ditembusin deh. Tapi, klo 1-5 ok, ya kita ucapin good bye
> > deh buat IHSG < 1XXX-nya.
> >
> > Pada 29 Mei 2009 18:02, billy_wta  menulis:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Koreksi ke 1,630 hanya akan billy tarik kembali, jika :
> > > 1. GM gak jadi bangkrut, tentunya Dwow bisa happy
> > > 2. Dow mampu bertahan di atas 8,550 dan terus naik (Break Bear Rally)
> > > 3. IHSG tembus level 2,000 dan bisa bertahan di situ
> > > 4. Kampanye Pilpres lancar2 aja
> > > 5. Oil Tembus 70 dollar
> > >
> > > Jika 5 hal itu terlaksana dengan baik, maka 1,630 bisa BATAL, karena
> akan
> > > billy ambil titik baru untuk menarik proyeksi koreksi terbaru. Mungkin
> > > sekitar 1,770-1790 saja
> > >
> > > Selama 5 hal itu belum terlaksana dengan baik. I masih optimis ke 1,630
> > >
> > > GBU
> > >
> > > --- In 
> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Mico Wendy  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Prof jt, billy,
> > > > Ini jadi sesuatu yg beda? Bullish dan bearish? Atau sama tapi
> > > > timeframenya beda..
> > > > Yg gawat kalau kita2 bingung, sebentar bullish sebentar bearish.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Salam,
> > > >
> > > > On 5/29/09, JsxTrader  wrote:
> > > > > Wow.., statement yg sangat berani, Bill..., kalau gitu saya juga
> mau
> > > bilang;
> > > > > cepat atau lambat IHSG akan break HIGHEST EVER, jangan tanya kapan,
> > > POKOKE
> > > > > cepat atau lambat lah.., hehehe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, market does not always work the way we want it to, Bill.
> Sebagai
> > > > > Technician you know better than that..., cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > JT
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:
> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > >  40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > On Behalf Of billy_wta
> > > > > Sent: 29 Mei 2009 15:15
> > > > > To: 
> > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saya sudah banyak bertemu orang yang seperti anda, cuma bisa omong
> > > doang.
> > > > > saya tahu ini bullish secara TA, but somtehing yang anda tidak
> ketahui
> > > akan
> > > > > membwa IHSG ke 1630 cepat atau lambat
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalau anda mau bullish, silakan saja, tapi saya masih BEARISH, jadi
> jgn
> > > coba
> > > > > mengacaukan pendapat saya di FB dgn mengatakan ini Bullish
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sekali lagi, I still a Bearish Messenger dengan motto KEBETULAN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > GBU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sent from my mobile device
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
>



Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Hmm, saya pernah baca, lupa dimana, ada pendapat yg bilang in short to mid term 
memang tidak ada yg pasti di pasar modal.., tapi in a very long term katanya 
pasti naik !! Katanya lo, bukan kata saya..., dan saya belum uji pendapat tsb, 
jd jgn debat saya ya... Hehe...

Silahkan pak Rei sebagai investor, bisa mengujinya and share your opinion..

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-Original Message-
From: Rei 

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:17:56 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB


Iya ngerti pak, pak Ruddhass lagi bercanda tapi memang saya juga ingin
memberikan pandangan lain bahwa di bursa tdk ada yg sesuatu mutlak, semua
bisa berubah2 dalam hitungan cepat. Hehe maaf pak Rudd kalo terkesan
"sok"...
Pak Oen sendiri juga bilang palnned agenda kalo sdh disiarkan spt skrg ini
(koreksi ke 16XX) bisa saja batal dan malah lari ke 22XX hehe kidding boss

2009/5/31 JT™ 

>
>
> Maksudnya Pak Ruddhass begini pak:
>
> Selama 'bertahan' ya pasti ngga ke 1600 kan hehe.., tapi kalau tidak kuat
> bertahan, maka sangat bisa ke 1600... Hehe, betul ngga sih...
>
> Jadi Keyword nya 'bertahan' pak.., hehe..
>
> JT
>
> Sent From BNBeRry®
>
> “TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order”
>
> --
> *From*: Rei
> *Date*: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:04:53 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
>
> Di bursa tidak ada kata pasti pak...anything is possible.
> Siapa yg bisa jamin kalo setelah bertahan di atas 2000 selama 1 bulan tidak
> akan balik lagi ke bawah? Yg namanya Bozz punya kekuatan mematahkan
> seluruh kepercayaan/kebiasaan yg ada di pasar modal :)
>
> 2009/5/31 ruddhass 
>
>>
>>
>> Sebenarnya kalau kita baca satu satu, syarat2 untuk ISHG batal ke 1630,
>> dari yang di tulis oleh Billy, harusnya kita setju 100%
>>
>> Terutama no 3, ini yan terpenting, "ISHG tembus 2000 dan bertahan di level
>> itu"
>> artinya kalau tembus bertahan di level 2000, pastinya ga bakal ke 1630..
>> Atau kalau jatuh ke 1630 artinya tidak bertahan dong di level 2000..he..he
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> ARRAY27 >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Banyak banget prasyaratnya? Klo kebalikan No.4 saja yang terjadi,
>> jangankan
>> > 1630, 1089 juga ditembusin deh. Tapi, klo 1-5 ok, ya kita ucapin good
>> bye
>> > deh buat IHSG < 1XXX-nya.
>> >
>> > Pada 29 Mei 2009 18:02, billy_wta  menulis:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Koreksi ke 1,630 hanya akan billy tarik kembali, jika :
>> > > 1. GM gak jadi bangkrut, tentunya Dwow bisa happy
>> > > 2. Dow mampu bertahan di atas 8,550 dan terus naik (Break Bear Rally)
>> > > 3. IHSG tembus level 2,000 dan bisa bertahan di situ
>> > > 4. Kampanye Pilpres lancar2 aja
>> > > 5. Oil Tembus 70 dollar
>> > >
>> > > Jika 5 hal itu terlaksana dengan baik, maka 1,630 bisa BATAL, karena
>> akan
>> > > billy ambil titik baru untuk menarik proyeksi koreksi terbaru. Mungkin
>> > > sekitar 1,770-1790 saja
>> > >
>> > > Selama 5 hal itu belum terlaksana dengan baik. I masih optimis ke
>> 1,630
>> > >
>> > > GBU
>> > >
>> > > --- In 
>> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > > Mico Wendy  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Prof jt, billy,
>> > > > Ini jadi sesuatu yg beda? Bullish dan bearish? Atau sama tapi
>> > > > timeframenya beda..
>> > > > Yg gawat kalau kita2 bingung, sebentar bullish sebentar bearish.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Salam,
>> > > >
>> > > > On 5/29/09, JsxTrader  wrote:
>> > > > > Wow.., statement yg sangat berani, Bill..., kalau gitu saya juga
>> mau
>> > > bilang;
>> > > > > cepat atau lambat IHSG akan break HIGHEST EVER, jangan tanya
>> kapan,
>> > > POKOKE
>> > > > > cepat atau lambat lah.., hehehe
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Well, market does not always work the way we want it to, Bill.
>> Sebagai
>> > > > > Technician you know better than that..., cheers.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > JT
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> 

Re: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Pak Swan, jangankan ke 1600, lebih rendahpun sangat mungkin terjadi, test low 
1100 pun sangat bisa terjadi, dan kita harus percayai itu, anything can happen 
in stock market..., akan tetapi apakah kita perlu membicarakan itu saat ini? 
Kalau menurut saya sih sebaiknya kita bicarakannya saat nanti terjadi tanda2 
koreksi.., nah baru kita UKUR seberapa dalam akan jatuh.., kalau kita bicarakan 
sekarang menurut saya.., sekali lagi menurut saya, terlalu premature dan over 
protective yang malah jadi contra productive..., well, itu buat saya ya, 
pandangan orang kan ngga sama.

Jadi kalau saya sih percaya aja IHSG bisa ke 1600, tapi untuk ambil action 
sekarang saya pikir belum perlu utk dilakukan.

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“TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order”

-Original Message-
From: swan silo 

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:48 
To: 
Subject: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB


saya termasuk yg percaya bahwa ihsg akan koreksi ke 16xx.tapi melihat 
perkembangan terakhir kyknya potensi koreksi nya perlu dinaikkan deh bukan ke 
16xx lagi tapi 17xxuntuk saat ini nikmati aja dulu gerakan ihsg 
kayaknya masih ok tuh untuk short term 



Dari: Rei 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Minggu, 31 Mei, 2009 09:17:56
Topik: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB





Iya ngerti pak, pak Ruddhass lagi bercanda tapi memang saya juga ingin 
memberikan pandangan lain bahwa di bursa tdk ada yg sesuatu mutlak, semua bisa 
berubah2 dalam hitungan cepat. Hehe maaf pak Rudd kalo terkesan "sok"...
Pak Oen sendiri juga bilang palnned agenda kalo sdh disiarkan spt skrg ini 
(koreksi ke 16XX) bisa saja batal dan malah lari ke 22XX hehe kidding boss


2009/5/31 JT™ 




Maksudnya Pak Ruddhass begini pak:

Selama 'bertahan' ya pasti ngga ke 1600 kan hehe.., tapi kalau tidak kuat 
bertahan, maka sangat bisa ke 1600... Hehe, betul ngga sih...

Jadi Keyword nya 'bertahan' pak.., hehe..

JT 
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“TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order”

 From: Rei 
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:04:53 +0700
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

Di bursa tidak ada kata pasti pak...anything is possible. 
Siapa yg bisa jamin kalo setelah bertahan di atas 2000 selama 1 bulan tidak 
akan balik lagi ke bawah? Yg namanya Bozz punya kekuatan mematahkan seluruh 
kepercayaan/ kebiasaan yg ada di pasar modal :) 


2009/5/31 ruddhass 




Sebenarnya kalau kita baca satu satu, syarat2 untuk ISHG batal ke 1630, dari 
yang di tulis oleh Billy, harusnya kita setju 100%

Terutama no 3, ini yan terpenting, "ISHG tembus 2000 dan bertahan di level itu"
artinya kalau tembus bertahan di level 2000, pastinya ga bakal ke 1630.. Atau 
kalau jatuh ke 1630 artinya tidak bertahan dong di level 2000..he..he

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ARRAY27  wrote:
>
> Banyak banget prasyaratnya? Klo kebalikan No.4 saja yang terjadi, jangankan
> 1630, 1089 juga ditembusin deh. Tapi, klo 1-5 ok, ya kita ucapin good bye
> deh buat IHSG < 1XXX-nya.
> 
> Pada 29 Mei 2009 18:02, billy_wta  menulis:
> 
> >
> >
> > Koreksi ke 1,630 hanya akan billy tarik kembali, jika :
> > 1. GM gak jadi bangkrut, tentunya Dwow bisa happy
> > 2. Dow mampu bertahan di atas 8,550 dan terus naik (Break Bear Rally)
> > 3. IHSG tembus level 2,000 dan bisa bertahan di situ
> > 4. Kampanye Pilpres lancar2 aja
> > 5. Oil Tembus 70 dollar
> >
> > Jika 5 hal itu terlaksana dengan baik, maka 1,630 bisa BATAL, karena akan
> > billy ambil titik baru untuk menarik proyeksi koreksi terbaru. Mungkin
> > sekitar 1,770-1790 saja
> >
> > Selama 5 hal itu belum terlaksana dengan baik. I masih optimis ke 1,630
> >
> > GBU
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
> > Mico Wendy  wrote:
> > >
> > > Prof jt, billy,
> > > Ini jadi sesuatu yg beda? Bullish dan bearish? Atau sama tapi
> > > timeframenya beda..
> > > Yg gawat kalau kita2 bingung, sebentar bullish sebentar bearish.
> > >
> > >
> > > Salam,
> > >
> > > On 5/29/09, JsxTrader  wrote:
> > > > Wow.., statement yg sangat berani, Bill..., kalau gitu saya juga mau
> > bilang;
> > > > cepat atau lambat IHSG akan break HIGHEST EVER, jangan tanya kapan,
> > POKOKE
> > > > cepat atau lambat lah.., hehehe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, market does not always work the way we want it to, Bill. Sebagai
> > > > Technician you know better than that..., cheers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JT
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Re: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Hmm, investor stay away maksudnya yg sdh punya barang utk keluar dulu atau yg 
baru mau jadi investor, jangan masuk dulu?

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-Original Message-
From: Rei 

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:40:59 
To: 
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB


Yap, setuju dgn pak Swan Silo...investor stay away, nikmati saja
pertunjukkannya...beli pas jatuh.
Traders kalo ilmunya tinggi silahkan main surfing, ombaknya mantap :-)
Newbie...minggir aja dulu deh, ntar kelelep.
:-)

2009/5/31 swan silo 

>
>
>  saya termasuk yg percaya bahwa ihsg akan koreksi ke 16xx.tapi melihat
> perkembangan terakhir kyknya potensi koreksi nya perlu dinaikkan deh bukan
> ke 16xx lagi tapi 17xxuntuk saat ini nikmati aja dulu gerakan
> ihsg kayaknya masih ok tuh untuk short term
>  --
> *Dari:* Rei 
> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Terkirim:* Minggu, 31 Mei, 2009 09:17:56
> *Topik:* Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
>
>  Iya ngerti pak, pak Ruddhass lagi bercanda tapi memang saya juga ingin
> memberikan pandangan lain bahwa di bursa tdk ada yg sesuatu mutlak, semua
> bisa berubah2 dalam hitungan cepat. Hehe maaf pak Rudd kalo terkesan
> "sok"...
> Pak Oen sendiri juga bilang palnned agenda kalo sdh disiarkan spt skrg ini
> (koreksi ke 16XX) bisa saja batal dan malah lari ke 22XX hehe kidding boss
>
> 2009/5/31 JT™ >
>
>>
>>
>> Maksudnya Pak Ruddhass begini pak:
>>
>> Selama 'bertahan' ya pasti ngga ke 1600 kan hehe.., tapi kalau tidak kuat
>> bertahan, maka sangat bisa ke 1600... Hehe, betul ngga sih...
>>
>> Jadi Keyword nya 'bertahan' pak.., hehe..
>>
>> JT
>>
>> Sent From BNBeRry®
>>
>> “TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order”
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Rei
>> *Date*: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:04:53 +0700
>> *To*: >
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
>>
>> Di bursa tidak ada kata pasti pak...anything is possible.
>> Siapa yg bisa jamin kalo setelah bertahan di atas 2000 selama 1 bulan
>> tidak akan balik lagi ke bawah? Yg namanya Bozz punya kekuatan mematahkan
>> seluruh kepercayaan/ kebiasaan yg ada di pasar modal :)
>>
>> 2009/5/31 ruddhass >
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sebenarnya kalau kita baca satu satu, syarat2 untuk ISHG batal ke 1630,
>>> dari yang di tulis oleh Billy, harusnya kita setju 100%
>>>
>>> Terutama no 3, ini yan terpenting, "ISHG tembus 2000 dan bertahan di
>>> level itu"
>>> artinya kalau tembus bertahan di level 2000, pastinya ga bakal ke 1630..
>>> Atau kalau jatuh ke 1630 artinya tidak bertahan dong di level 2000..he..he
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>>> ARRAY27 >>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Banyak banget prasyaratnya? Klo kebalikan No.4 saja yang terjadi,
>>> jangankan
>>> > 1630, 1089 juga ditembusin deh. Tapi, klo 1-5 ok, ya kita ucapin good
>>> bye
>>> > deh buat IHSG < 1XXX-nya.
>>> >
>>> > Pada 29 Mei 2009 18:02, billy_wta  menulis:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Koreksi ke 1,630 hanya akan billy tarik kembali, jika :
>>> > > 1. GM gak jadi bangkrut, tentunya Dwow bisa happy
>>> > > 2. Dow mampu bertahan di atas 8,550 dan terus naik (Break Bear Rally)
>>> > > 3. IHSG tembus level 2,000 dan bisa bertahan di situ
>>> > > 4. Kampanye Pilpres lancar2 aja
>>> > > 5. Oil Tembus 70 dollar
>>> > >
>>> > > Jika 5 hal itu terlaksana dengan baik, maka 1,630 bisa BATAL, karena
>>> akan
>>> > > billy ambil titik baru untuk menarik proyeksi koreksi terbaru.
>>> Mungkin
>>> > > sekitar 1,770-1790 saja
>>> > >
>>> > > Selama 5 hal itu belum terlaksana dengan baik. I masih optimis ke
>>> 1,630
>>> > >
>>> > > GBU
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>> > > com>> com <http://40yahoogroups.com/>>,
>>> > > Mico Wendy  wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Prof jt, billy,
>>> > > > Ini jadi sesuatu yg beda? Bullish dan bearish? Atau sama tapi
>>> > > > timeframenya beda..
>>> > > > Yg gawat kalau kita2 bingung, sebentar bullish sebentar bearish.
>>> > > >
>&

Re: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Res yg terdekat sih area 1995-2000.., itu level psikologis.., sementara untuk 
support sekitar 1800-1810..., koreksi ke level tsb masih ok dan ngga usah 
panik.., nanti lah saya kirim chartnya.


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-Original Message-
From: Coderman 

Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:47:39 
To: 
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB


Kalo dari Itung2 an pak JT resistant IHSG saat ini ada di level brp yg perlu
di tembus dulu pak ? bisa kliatan kaga

TQ

2009/5/31 JT™ 

>
>
>  Pak Swan, jangankan ke 1600, lebih rendahpun sangat mungkin terjadi, test
> low 1100 pun sangat bisa terjadi, dan kita harus percayai itu, anything can
> happen in stock market..., akan tetapi apakah kita perlu membicarakan itu
> saat ini? Kalau menurut saya sih sebaiknya kita bicarakannya saat nanti
> terjadi tanda2 koreksi.., nah baru kita UKUR seberapa dalam akan jatuh..,
> kalau kita bicarakan sekarang menurut saya.., sekali lagi menurut saya,
> terlalu premature dan over protective yang malah jadi contra productive...,
> well, itu buat saya ya, pandangan orang kan ngga sama.
>
> Jadi kalau saya sih percaya aja IHSG bisa ke 1600, tapi untuk ambil action
> sekarang saya pikir belum perlu utk dilakukan.
>
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> *From*: swan silo
> *Date*: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:30:48 +0800 (SGT)
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Bls: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
> saya termasuk yg percaya bahwa ihsg akan koreksi ke 16xx.tapi melihat
> perkembangan terakhir kyknya potensi koreksi nya perlu dinaikkan deh bukan
> ke 16xx lagi tapi 17xxuntuk saat ini nikmati aja dulu gerakan
> ihsg kayaknya masih ok tuh untuk short term
> --
> *Dari:* Rei 
> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Terkirim:* Minggu, 31 Mei, 2009 09:17:56
> *Topik:* Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
>
>  Iya ngerti pak, pak Ruddhass lagi bercanda tapi memang saya juga ingin
> memberikan pandangan lain bahwa di bursa tdk ada yg sesuatu mutlak, semua
> bisa berubah2 dalam hitungan cepat. Hehe maaf pak Rudd kalo terkesan
> "sok"...
> Pak Oen sendiri juga bilang palnned agenda kalo sdh disiarkan spt skrg ini
> (koreksi ke 16XX) bisa saja batal dan malah lari ke 22XX hehe kidding boss
>
> 2009/5/31 JT™ >
>
>>
>>
>> Maksudnya Pak Ruddhass begini pak:
>>
>> Selama 'bertahan' ya pasti ngga ke 1600 kan hehe.., tapi kalau tidak kuat
>> bertahan, maka sangat bisa ke 1600... Hehe, betul ngga sih...
>>
>> Jadi Keyword nya 'bertahan' pak.., hehe..
>>
>> JT
>>
>> Sent From BNBeRry®
>>
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>>
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>> *From*: Rei
>> *Date*: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:04:53 +0700
>> *To*: >
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] To Billy: kenapa delete gue di FB
>>
>> Di bursa tidak ada kata pasti pak...anything is possible.
>> Siapa yg bisa jamin kalo setelah bertahan di atas 2000 selama 1 bulan
>> tidak akan balik lagi ke bawah? Yg namanya Bozz punya kekuatan mematahkan
>> seluruh kepercayaan/ kebiasaan yg ada di pasar modal :)
>>
>> 2009/5/31 ruddhass >
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sebenarnya kalau kita baca satu satu, syarat2 untuk ISHG batal ke 1630,
>>> dari yang di tulis oleh Billy, harusnya kita setju 100%
>>>
>>> Terutama no 3, ini yan terpenting, "ISHG tembus 2000 dan bertahan di
>>> level itu"
>>> artinya kalau tembus bertahan di level 2000, pastinya ga bakal ke 1630..
>>> Atau kalau jatuh ke 1630 artinya tidak bertahan dong di level 2000..he..he
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>>> ARRAY27 >>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Banyak banget prasyaratnya? Klo kebalikan No.4 saja yang terjadi,
>>> jangankan
>>> > 1630, 1089 juga ditembusin deh. Tapi, klo 1-5 ok, ya kita ucapin good
>>> bye
>>> > deh buat IHSG < 1XXX-nya.
>>> >
>>> > Pada 29 Mei 2009 18:02, billy_wta  menulis:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Koreksi ke 1,630 hanya akan billy tarik kembali, jika :
>>> > > 1. GM gak jadi bangkrut, tentunya Dwow bisa happy
>>> > > 2. Dow mampu bertahan di atas 8,550 dan terus naik (Break Bear Rally)
>>> > > 3. IHSG tembus level 2,000 dan bisa bertahan di situ
>>> > > 4. Kampanye Pilpres lancar2 aja
>>> > > 5. Oil Tembus 70 dollar
>

Re: Pake crash apa gak? Re: Dana lokal distribusi, dana luar masuk? Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.........Pak Oentoeng, help

2009-05-30 Terurut Topik JT
Good Point Sir !

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Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 04:23:22 
To: 
Subject: Pake crash apa gak? Re: Dana lokal distribusi, dana luar masuk? Re: 
[ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.Pak Oentoeng, help


Kalo BENAR koreksi akan datang karena ada dana besar mau masuk, tentu setelah 
itu akan ada NEW HIGH juga kan?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hoki lee  wrote:
>
> iya, tapi kalau dana besar sudah keluar dan mau masuk lagi, masa mau masuk di 
> harga yg sama atau lebih tinggi, pasti maunya ...???
> 
> --- Pada Sab, 30/5/09, ricky.waki...@...  menulis:
> 
> 
> Dari: ricky.waki...@... 
> Topik: Re: Pake crash apa gak? Re: Dana lokal distribusi, dana luar masuk? 
> Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR.Pak Oentoeng, help
> Kepada: "Milis OB" 
> Tanggal: Sabtu, 30 Mei, 2009, 11:32 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saya mau urun pemikiran bodo.
> 
> Berdasarkan asumsi;
> 
> 1. Pak Oen bilang, dana lokal raksasa lagi proses keluar buat kampanye capres 
> dan dana asing raksasa mau masuk ke BEJ (dan sekarang sudah masuk di SUN).
> 
> 2. Dana ritel jumlahnya kagak seupil-upilnya ama kedua dana di atas.
> 
> Kok naga-naganya, perpindahan dana itu akan berjalan mulus antara dana lokal 
> ama dana luar, tanpa crash. Ritel cuman penggembira sekaligus pelengkap 
> penderita aja kalo indeks dikocok-kocok dengan volum kecil.
> 
> Semoga aja pendapat saya salah karena banyak temen di sini yang ngarepin 
> crash buat masuk lagi.
> 
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> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> 
> 
> From: "d...@ob" 
> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 03:01:54 +
> To: Milis OB
> Subject: Re: Pake crash apa gak? Re: Dana lokal distribusi, dana luar masuk? 
> Re: [ob] Re: SCENARIO BESAR... ..Pak Oentoeng, help
> 
> 
> 
> Weleh jangan2x ada koordinasi antara mereka ya ...karena jangan2x dananya itu 
> benernya cuman "SATU"..., hanya alokasi marketnya aja yg beda (... 
> Jangan2x ya) 
> 
> Jadi proses yg berjalan sekarang betul2x adalah distribusi "selagi" 
> mestakung... 
> IMHO benar terjadi "luar beli lokal jual"  tapi Tujuannya itu bukan 
> keatas, tapi kebawah untuk memberikan "ruang" ke dana luar yg masih 
> parkir.☹ 
> 
> Kalo memang bener kaya gitu, begitu proses "unload" sdh mendekati akhir 
> Hmmm, bisa2x beneran nih kejadian akan turun agak dalam 
> 
> Apa bisa gitu ya? 
> Mbah nubie mohon petunjuk 
> 
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Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Kalo gak mau ketinggalan harus ikut BD akumulasi Pak, tapi masalahnya anda kuat 
nunggu gak?.., kalo saya sih gak betah'an jadi mending tunggu BD kerja aja baru 
kite ikut nyosor Hehe
 
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:28:36 
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Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA


Om JT,
Kita sering ketinggalan bos kalo main (TRUB) ,kayaknya tergantung bandar ya. 
BOS BANDAR kapan main TRUB? Tahun depan juga nggak papa..
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:57:38 
To: 
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA


bentar lagi nge-JOS


2009/7/21 benny Jhon 

>
>
> DEWA breakout di brp Prof? Tq
>
>  --
> *Dari:* JsxTrader 
> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Terkirim:* Selasa, 21 Juli, 2009 01:11:46
> *Judul:* RE: [ob] DEWA
>
>
>
>  Kauaknya BD- trub  lagi ngga berapa active, Cuma jaga’in doing.., DEWA
> lagi dikumpulin terus, gak tau kelarnya kapan.., ntar kalo breakout baru
> kita sosor… hehe
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou
> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Etina -
> *Sent:* 21 Juli 2009 14:57
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* [ob] DEWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> btw kok ga ada yg bahas dewa & trub ya, gimana neh nasib dewa n trub prof
> JT? Mohon terawagannya
>
>
>
> tks
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Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Kalo dilihat secara PASTI ya gak bisa, unless anda temennya BD.., hehe, yg bisa 
kita lakukan adlh melihat 'foot print' yg ditinggalkan..., nah dari situ kita 
lakukan analisis dan ambil kesimpulan.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:32:48 
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Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA


kalu lihat bandar lagi akumulasi itu bisa dilihat saat itu dgn mata saja gak
pak jt ? atau ada cara2 nya ?
maap pertanyaan gak berkelas. tp saya emang gak ngerti

TQ

2009/7/21 JT™ 

>
>
> Kalo gak mau ketinggalan harus ikut BD akumulasi Pak, tapi masalahnya anda
> kuat nunggu gak?.., kalo saya sih gak betah'an jadi mending tunggu BD kerja
> aja baru kite ikut nyosor Hehe
>
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> *Date*: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:28:36 +
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>
> *Subject*: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA
> Om JT,
> Kita sering ketinggalan bos kalo main (TRUB) ,kayaknya tergantung bandar
> ya.
> BOS BANDAR kapan main TRUB? Tahun depan juga nggak papa..
>
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> --
> *From*: Henry Liem
> *Date*: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:57:38 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA
>
>
> bentar lagi nge-JOS
>
>
> 2009/7/21 benny Jhon 
>
>>
>>
>> DEWA breakout di brp Prof? Tq
>>
>> --
>> *Dari:* JsxTrader 
>> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> *Terkirim:* Selasa, 21 Juli, 2009 01:11:46
>> *Judul:* RE: [ob] DEWA
>>
>>
>>
>> Kauaknya BD- trub  lagi ngga berapa active, Cuma jaga’in doing.., DEWA
>> lagi dikumpulin terus, gak tau kelarnya kapan.., ntar kalo breakout baru
>> kita sosor… hehe
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogrou
>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Etina -
>> *Sent:* 21 Juli 2009 14:57
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> *Subject:* [ob] DEWA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> btw kok ga ada yg bahas dewa & trub ya, gimana neh nasib dewa n trub prof
>> JT? Mohon terawagannya
>>
>>
>>
>> tks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ob] OOT: Optical illusions

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Ente cebok pake tangan kanan, pinter kagak mules iye... Hehehe, kemana aja 
boss, lama gak nongol??

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:37:55 
To: 
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Oooo gono y. Klo cebok boleh sekali2 pake tangan kanan kagak?

Hadir boss
Nanti kalu bumi udah 5000, tulunk bangunin ya. ane mau tidur lagi

2009/7/21 boyz :
> Ya dinasehatin aja pak biar kerja gantian.
> masa egois banget yg satu kerja yg satu lagi tidur... hehehe...
> Just kidding, pak :p
>
> Googling aja pak, banyak kok teknik-nya.
> Salah satunya, kalau biasa nulis pakai tangan kanan, mbok ya sekali-2
> nulis pakai tangan kiri.
> Sukur-2 bisa nulis pakai dua tangan sekaligus.
>
> tapi, kalau biasa ngupil pakai tangan kanan, jangan ngupil pakai tangan
> kiri pak...
> nanti infeksi... hehehe...
>
> btw, ini pak AA yg 'itu' ya?
> or another pak AA ?
>
> Salam,
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pak AA  wrote:
>>
>> Om boyz, gimana cara prakteknya dalam kehidupan sehari ? Bagaimana
>> agar otaknya bisa gantian kerjanya?




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Re: [ob] Re: Ilusi optis

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
IC.., iya juga.., ok tq boss..
 
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:44:14 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: Ilusi optis


Brother JT,
^DJUSCL bukan contract or commodities of Coal, tapi Index.
Sama aja kali, antara DJ Coal dengan ^DJUSCL ...
^DJUSCL kan kode ticker-nya di yahoo (atau beberapa situs).


Salam,



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
>
> Brother Boyz.., .., kalo ^DJUSCL nama exchange-nya apa sih ? ane lagi
coba
> masukin new symbol nih di MS-realtime.
>
>
>
> Btw, ini chart DJ Coal.., lagi uji 200 EMA, moga-moga tembus dah..,
biar
> target Jendral Art tercapai. hehe
>
>
>
> djcl.png
>
>
>
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of boyz
> Sent: 21 Juli 2009 22:12
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ob] Re: Ilusi optis
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
jsx-consultant@
> wrote:
> >
> > Grafik saham menjadi garis lurus
> >
> >
> >
>
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EDJUSCL&t=1d&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=%5EDJUSMG,\
%5ED
> JUSBK,%5EDJI
> >
>
>
>
> 'Objects in rear view mirror may appear closer than they are'...
>




Re: [ob] Prof JT, BNBR Gmn ?

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Beda Pak.., bnbr lagi akumulasi berat, biarin BD loaded dulu, jangan diganggu, 
ntar kalo udh kelar BD juga bakal 'ngajak' kok..., sabar aja Hehe..


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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:07:05 
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Subject: [ob] Prof JT, BNBR Gmn ?


Prof, tolong mikroskop-in BNBR dong Prof. Kalo kayak ginii ada pattern
kebalikan dari yg INDF bukan yah ? Maap, masi belajar soalnya.
Thanks



Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Sejak tempo hari gagal break 1850 dan mantul, Ane dah dapet 2 rit, tadi masuk 
rit ke 3, nyolong start pagi2, hehe.., tapi ini spec buy lah, cuma nyopet 
aja.., blm confirm bener utk hold.., kalo close diatas 1980 baru cakep dah...

  
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:27:06 
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Prof, tins chartnya bagus ni, falling wedge, macd mengarah ke golden cross, rsi 
naik ke atas, stochastic dan william juga, break 1980 serang ni prof? Prof 
check inco juga tuh (macd mau cross garis 0-strong bullish), bollinger kalau 
pinjem istilah billy mau bentuk belalai gajah ni, target 4300, setuju ngak prof?
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:41:25 
To: OB Group
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA


Kalo dilihat secara PASTI ya gak bisa, unless anda temennya BD.., hehe, yg bisa 
kita lakukan adlh melihat 'foot print' yg ditinggalkan..., nah dari situ kita 
lakukan analisis dan ambil kesimpulan.

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From: coderman 

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:32:48 
To: 
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA


kalu lihat bandar lagi akumulasi itu bisa dilihat saat itu dgn mata saja gak
pak jt ? atau ada cara2 nya ?
maap pertanyaan gak berkelas. tp saya emang gak ngerti

TQ

2009/7/21 JT™ 

>
>
> Kalo gak mau ketinggalan harus ikut BD akumulasi Pak, tapi masalahnya anda
> kuat nunggu gak?.., kalo saya sih gak betah'an jadi mending tunggu BD kerja
> aja baru kite ikut nyosor Hehe
>
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> *From*: "thomher69"
> *Date*: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:28:36 +
> *To*: Obrolan
>
> *Subject*: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA
> Om JT,
> Kita sering ketinggalan bos kalo main (TRUB) ,kayaknya tergantung bandar
> ya.
> BOS BANDAR kapan main TRUB? Tahun depan juga nggak papa..
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Henry Liem
> *Date*: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:57:38 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: Bls: [ob] DEWA
>
>
> bentar lagi nge-JOS
>
>
> 2009/7/21 benny Jhon 
>
>>
>>
>> DEWA breakout di brp Prof? Tq
>>
>> --
>> *Dari:* JsxTrader 
>> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> *Terkirim:* Selasa, 21 Juli, 2009 01:11:46
>> *Judul:* RE: [ob] DEWA
>>
>>
>>
>> Kauaknya BD- trub  lagi ngga berapa active, Cuma jaga’in doing.., DEWA
>> lagi dikumpulin terus, gak tau kelarnya kapan.., ntar kalo breakout baru
>> kita sosor… hehe
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
TP lah pak, dah kekencengan juga, liat aja tuh udh berapa hari ijo poll..., 
kalo malem ini bisa ijo lagi sih 'kebengetan'..., hehe...

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:27 
To: Milis OB
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...



Wadowskrg kog dow merosot dan merah :(



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From: Febry Hariyannugraha 

Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:04:08 
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Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...


Udah buka nih ... udah +45 ... sempet hampir nyentuk 9000 (8923)
More solid earning kata yahoo ...



Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Kalo bull-nya sih secara TA udh confirm, tapi bukan berarti ngga pake 
koreksi.., kalo ntar dow tutup merah yah wajar lah dan ngga perlu disikapi 
aneh2..

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:37:37 
To: Milis OB
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...



Iya ya prof... katanya kalau di amrik sono kalau 5 hari berturut² bull atau 
bear udah luar biasa, jarang terjadi apalagi kondisi sekarang belum confirm 
bull, kecuali opitimizernya Pak Tasrul yang udah konfirm bull.










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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:17:37 
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Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...


TP lah pak, dah kekencengan juga, liat aja tuh udh berapa hari ijo poll..., 
kalo malem ini bisa ijo lagi sih 'kebengetan'..., hehe...

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:27 
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Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...



Wadowskrg kog dow merosot dan merah :(



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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:04:08 
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Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...


Udah buka nih ... udah +45 ... sempet hampir nyentuk 9000 (8923)
More solid earning kata yahoo ...



Re: [ob] Prof JT, BNBR Gmn ?

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Lah itu die, lagi akumulasi.., kalo mau ikutan akumulasi ya beli lah di 84-85, 
tapi harus sabar nyimpen, kita ngga tau berapa lama BD selesai loading...

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:16:23 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Prof JT, BNBR Gmn ?


kok masih di mainin di 84 - 99 yah pak..

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From: HL 
Subject: [ob] Prof JT, BNBR Gmn ?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 4:07 PM


  



Prof, tolong mikroskop-in BNBR dong Prof. Kalo kayak ginii ada pattern 
kebalikan dari yg INDF bukan yah ? Maap, masi belajar soalnya.


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Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Hehe.., gua juga udh full tau, ngarepnya juga dow 'kebangetan'..., kalo bsk 
merah yah terpaksa pinjem duit tetangga dah buat belanja Hehe

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:44:56 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...


Iya lah, wajar...
5 hari berturut-turut plus banyak, wajar kan kalau profit taking.

tapi kalau hari ini bisa ijo lagi , nggak kebangetan sih bro...
sekalian genapin 8-9 hari berturut-turut.
hehehe... ngarepnyakebangetan.com

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> TP lah pak, dah kekencengan juga, liat aja tuh udh berapa hari ijo
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> From: "[ M S ]" mimpi.sa...@...
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:11:27
> To: Milis obobrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...
>
>
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> Wadowskrg kog dow merosot dan merah :(
>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:04:08
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ob] DOW .. Oyeee ...
>
>
> Udah buka nih ... udah +45 ... sempet hampir nyentuk 9000 (8923)
> More solid earning kata yahoo ...
>




Re: [ob] PGAS - Pak JT/Hans dll

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Blom mau jalan kayaknya, sabar aja.., saya sih cenderung liat bakal koreksi 
dulu, bukannya karena saya mau masuk, tapi karena ada divergence negative dgn 
macd Hehehe

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:04:19 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] PGAS - Pak JT/Hans dll


tengkyu Be..Lagi diplototin nih.


2009/7/22 JT 

>
>
>  Ralat, harusnya 3600
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JT
> *Sent:* 22 Juli 2009 10:24
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Cc:* jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [ob] PGAS - Pak JT/Hans dll
>
>
>
>
>
> Tambahan : Estimasi Volume untuk bisa breakout dgn enteng dan valid, kurang
> lebih 165-175 ribu lot, jika breakout dgn volume lebih kecil dari itu, cek
> apakah bisa tembus sampai 2600.., jika ya, should be lanjut dengan
> kemungkinan temporary pullback dulu.
>
>
>
> Jika terjadi Koreksi, kemungkinan bisa sampai 3100-3150.
>
>
>
> JT
>  
>



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Re: [ob] Mhn terawan KIJA

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Wadew.., saya baru aja off dari monitor, lagi dijalan nih, ntar siang dah dari 
kantor saya liatin..

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:09:16 
To: OB
Subject: [ob] Mhn terawan KIJA



Prof JT, mohon penerawangan KIJA, koq tibe2 naik tinggi ya, apakah sdh 
gilirannya?

Tks


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Re: [ob] Mhn terawan KIJA

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
Sekedar inpo, seinget ane kija kalo tembus 111 Cakep, vol harus above average, 
kalo mau masuk, deket2 VWAP.., nyopet area dibawah VWAP, abort jika close below 
111.., gut lak !

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Wadew.., saya baru aja off dari monitor, lagi dijalan nih, ntar siang dah dari 
kantor saya liatin..

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Prof JT, mohon penerawangan KIJA, koq tibe2 naik tinggi ya, apakah sdh 
gilirannya?

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Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik JT
How much discount you are looking for EL ? Kalo sikit2 we might be able to give 
you lah.., hehe

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:55:15 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW


*2nd call, 7 days left, so little time, so many monkeys. SELL NOW.**(yes, I
want discount..lolz) **
*
*Elaine**
*
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Elaine Sui  wrote:

> *I don't like repeating myself and I guess you all understand my message.
> You know, if I can control the market, I want a bull rally forever, right?
> But you know it's impossible. I cannot stay persistent when fundamentals
> change.
>
> I officially state my resignation as a bull messenger. There, should be
> clear enough. [?]
>
> Don't fear, coz JT is here. You can depend on him. He can call me anything
> he wants. If you don't agree with me, then you are free not to follow. Look,
> I don't want to argue with anyone, ok? my portfolios are my business, not
> yours. I have my own judgment.
>
> Elaine*
> *
> *
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 6:34 PM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No.. no.. no.., I don't beat the market, nobody can, I only follow it.
>> :)
>>
>> EL, seriously.., do you really think market will down that deep?? -1000 ??
>> If you are so sure, can you said it loud and clear to SELL NOW ? Just like
>> when you said to BUY NOW the other day.
>>
>> I am not so sure, so I better not give any opinion lah..., yes DOW will
>> continue to go down, no reversal signal yet, BUT IHSG not very clear right
>> now..., masih 50:50 (in term of deep correction), let see next week lah.
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:24:33 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW
>> *I know you can always beat the market. Good for you. But to me, I know
>> my limitation, that's why I pulled myself out.
>>
>> Elaine**
>> *
>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 5:35 PM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, why me? No matter bullish or bearish, I will always be your
>>> nightmare..., hehe... And I am not English Man, I don't drink Tea, so I
>>> guess we can't sit together, hehehe.. Just joke EL..
>>>
>>> Yes, most probable the DOW will go down , tapi not much lah, not lower
>>> than prev low, IHSG still on track, tapi sangat mungkin akan
>>> terseret-teseret juga, tapi ngga -1000 lah, unless something really-really
>>> big happen..., mungkin malah naik dulu, baru jatuh di 2200'an... So what
>>> lah We kind of get used to it..., orang betawi bilang, udh biase
>>> hehe
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:48:10 +0700
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW
>>> *More than enough. Check the dates. If you guys join forces together
>>> (JT, Dean, Tasrul, Embah, Oentoeng, Artomoro, Fifi, Hans, Jack Cowk, Rei,
>>> hepisaham, basically everyone excld. me), IDX may continue its rally. I
>>> cannot control them (aka the 'Market'). Coba panggil semua bandars, bozzes,
>>> Market Makers in OB, minta untuk rally again. Can?
>>>
>>> Show me how powerful you guys are. 'Fight for your country. Defend the
>>> national treasure. Protect them from foreign invasion'. You want freedom,
>>> right? It's about time that you stand on your own.
>>>
>>> -OR-
>>>
>>> You may want to sit  next to me, drink a cup of tea and watch the world
>>> crumbles. [?] Hey don't yell at me, the US is responsible for this mess.
>>>
>>> Elaine**
>>> *
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ferry wrote:
>>>


  How much do you get in percent??



 *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
 obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui
 *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2009 9:23 AM

 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW






  *Dear Investors,*



 *I'm realizing my investment profit. Don't be scared nor panic. I may
 be back in Q4, but right now I had to move some to other country. I hope my
 action doesn't make any significant impact to IDX, like in 2008.*



 *Ahh.. ada artomoro & friends as standby buyers, how lovely. Please,
 make IDX green everyday please... *



 *You ask for a reason? Well, I want my profit. It's nothing special,
 just doing what I have to do.*



 *Elaine*



 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Elaine Sui 
 wrote:

 *FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH, 2008*


 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE, LET ME WARN ALL ANALYSTS, TRADERS AND INVESTORS IN
 THIS GROUP

 *UPGRADE *YOUR *COMMODITY & ENERGY STOCKS* 12M TARGET AT LEAST 500%
 FROM TODAY'S POSITION

 MOST OF YOU MADE MISTAKES EARLIE

Re: [ob] Re: EL marah tuh -12

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik JT
Kokang !!

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Subject: [ob] Re: EL marah tuh -12
Sent: Jul 22, 2009 14:42


Kok marah sih? 

Bukannya senang dapat barang murah?












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Re: [ob] ChangCuters - GET READY !

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik JT
Yeee..., cepet cari yg ente lagi incer..  Hehe..


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pilhannya apa aja nih? ;)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, JT  wrote:

>
>
>  Siap-siap…, tunggu dalem’an dikit….
>  
>



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Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR SELL TARGET NOW

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik JT
Noh mental..., cari yg jatuh dibawah vwap !!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:46:05 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR SELL TARGET NOW


SELL aja dech..ikutin EL

besok kita tungguin di bawah

:))

thanx ya EL



btw, menurut I Ching bagaimana...?
:p




--- On Wed, 7/22/09, ichingprediction  wrote:

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Subject: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote:

>

> Hallo semuanya...

> Numpang berbagi pandangan nubie ya... 

> sudah beberapakali dalam ingatan ane, Elaine berhasil membuktikan kalo future 
> predictionnya patut di perhatikan.. .

> 

> Pada saat idx lagi supper bullish, neng Elaine bilang bearish

> Yg baru aja lewat, idx lagi bearish, neng Elaine bilang rally +1000

> Hehehehe nih cewe ane pikir memang berani mati...

> 

> Buy or Sell ane pikir semuanya kitalah yg paling berhak memutuskan.. .

> Dan saya pikir neng Elaine sdh sangat berbaik hati mau berbagi..., terlepas 
> dari apapun kepentingannya. .., just remember she's ob family too..., jadi 
> ane rasa, karena neng Elaine juga merasa the part of ob, dia mestinya gak 
> sembarangan posting... 

> 

> Please be wise with our comment...

> 

> Maaf kalo ada yg tidak berkenan.., cuman sekedar tulisan yg gak patut 
> diperdebatkan. .. Maaf...

> 

> 

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>

ane rasa smua punya hak kasi warning baik warning bullish or bearish. Kalo nga 
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Re: [ob] ChangCuters - GET READY !

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik JT
Cari yg jatuh dibawah VWAP !!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:49:36 
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Subject: Re: [ob] ChangCuters - GET READY !


minta clue dong.. :P

Furin Ongko



Re: [ob] PTBA

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik JT
Vol expand tapi Harga turun euy.., kalo dibawah 11700 hati-hati... !!!

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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:34:32 
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Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA


Prof JT,

PTBA vol udah 25ribu nich..
confirm..?



--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Rei  wrote:

From: Rei 
Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA - RE: [JT] BUMI - Big Order
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:01 PM






 





  Hehe molor lagi tuh pak...

2009/7/22 JT 













 





  







Gak perlu banyak boss, cukup  25 ribu will do…, yes MACD GC,
tapi masih di area negative,  dikit lagi CROSSING Center Line..,  gut lak Pak
Rei.. !

 





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Behalf Of Rei

Sent: 22 Juli 2009 14:22

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA - RE: [JT] BUMI - Big Order





 





Perlu volume berapa pak JT? Target price?



Macd sdh golden cross, masuk
area positif (apa blm?)...Let's go!



2009/7/22 JT 



  









Mulai
keluar dari range.., Cakep ! we need more volume…

 



 





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On Behalf Of JsxTrader

Sent: 21 Juli 2009 14:40

To: jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com

Subject: RE: [JT] BUMI - Big Order





 

 

Masih
dikumpulin kayaknya.., tembus and close diatas 11700 baru cakep..

 

JT

 



 





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On Behalf Of Twinkle Chan

Sent: 21 Juli 2009 14:33

To: jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com

Subject: Re: [JT] BUMI - Big Order





 

 



PRof, tlg analisa PTBA dong, dr chart sptnya ok, tp
koq ada barikade di 11.700 dan 11.800. Trik BD biar ngak ada yg berani AR kana
or what?





Prof, Jgn lupa komando-nya 





 





Thank's





2009/7/21 JsxTrader 



  









We have many big order today,  resistance
1980, ave naik terus, semoga 2000 tembus !!

 

JT

 























 



















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Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Jadi bearish apa bullish nih ??  Lolz..

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From: Febry Hariyannugraha 

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:03:24 
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Subject: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000


Friends,

DOW 50 point lagi 9000 .. sekaran +72 point ... naik 0.8% dari penutupan
kemaren ..
DOW naik gara-gara latest earning yang baik dari beberapa perusahaan seperti
Ford dan Phillip Morris ...



Re: [ob] Prof JT ... Terawangin INCO doonng ...

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
CAKEP ! 

Chart Menyusul ya...

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Prof ..
Ane mau minta tolong diterawangin INCO doong ..
Kemaren masuk Top 5 Value ... :)
Thank you Prof ...

Febry



Re: [ob] Prof JT ... Terawangin INCO doonng ...

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
CAKEP ! 

Chart Menyusul ya...

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Prof ..
Ane mau minta tolong diterawangin INCO doong ..
Kemaren masuk Top 5 Value ... :)
Thank you Prof ...

Febry



Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Udaahhh, ngga boleh begituuu..,  ngga baik bergembira ditengah 'penderitaan' 
orang lain :)

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From: Febry Hariyannugraha 

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:22:45 
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3 point lagi ... ayooo kamu bisa  DOW ..9000.



Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Bozz PASTI bagi barang, kalo ngga dibagi, harga bakal AR doong.., hehehe

Tapi gini ya, Bozz kemungkinan memang akan kontrarian, tapi ngga akan melawan 
market.., artinya bisa aja si BOZZ bakal nimpukin pagi2, tapi bukan berarti si 
BOZZ lagi bearish..., hehe..


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Bozz timpukin .. kira ngeles dong .. seeettt ... ada Prof JT yang bantuin ..
Kalo lagi ada duit ... timpukin aja bozz .. ane tangkep nanti .. hehehehehe



Re: [ob] Tomorrow IHSG 2,200 ?

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
My Point Bill..., ngapain sih kite-kite ini pada ribut bullish bearish bullish 
bearish.., sampe mati-matian kayak belain negara aja..., hehe,  kalo 
nyatanya harga naik ya kita bullish bareng2, dan kalo nyata-nyatanya harga 
memang turun ya kite bearish rame-rame, hehe, gampang aja kan? tul ngga 
Bill?

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:33:58 
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Setuju ama prof, pokoknya dont forget your trailing stop aje, jadi cuan tak 
terbatas, tapi opportunity kita masih terlindungi.

hahahahhahaa, iya deh tunggu di 1,800-1,900, wihihihihihh

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
>
> Tenang aje Bill.., udh banyak yg prediksi akan koreksi di 2200-2250, tau
> bener apa ngga, kite mah ngga pusing, tinggal pasang trailing stop, begitu
> kena kite mabur, as simple as that..., trus tongkrongin lagi dibawah noceng,
> yg bisa ngeshort, bisa ngeshort dah..., paling di 1800-1900 bakal ada lagi
> yg mulai teriak "BUY NOW"..., nah kite mbonceng lagi dah all the way up...,
> hehe, nyang teriak baru dapet satu rit kite udah dapet dua rit? Hehe..., 
> 
> JT 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of billy_wta60
> Sent: 23 Juli 2009 22:21
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ob] Tomorrow IHSG 2,200 ?
> 
> Dow udah naik hampir 2 %, Oil $ 66.31, kayaknya besok bisa langsung 2,200
> nih, tiati ntar bozz contrarian, soalnya cuan kasar udah 100 %
> 
> low IHSG 1,089 X 2 = 2,178, anggep + 1 % lagi buat bayar fee beli jual,
> SOPIR, wkwkwkkwkw, internet, listrik, komputer, wkwkwkkwkwkw
> 
> jadi 2,178 x 101 % = 2,199 --> 2,200
> 
> wuihh, hati2 aja kalau volume kecil pas sentuh 2,200. mendingan TP dulu,
> apalagi bsk Jumat
> 
> GBU
>






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Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Pan tempo hari ane udh kirim potonya.., kurang jelas apa tulisannya..., masak 
masih nyasar juga sih? hehehe

Trading di bearish bisa..., ngga susah, kate milis sebelah, "bearish make 
money, bullish make money"..., kalo ane bilang "bearish make money, bullish 
make MORE money"..., insya Allah tentunya.  


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Subject: Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000



Kayaknya Prof kudu boncenging EL ke Utara tuh supaya doi ngak nyasar hehehe.

Nah kalau ilmu trading saat bearish ane belum ngerti, kecuali bisa short sell.




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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:16:52 
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iya lah.., ane seneng yg merah-merah muda soale… hehe….,

 

Well,  dari kemarin-kemarin kite juga dah kerja…, copet sana copet sini…,
dikasih cangcut kite makan, ditarik kita timpuk… hehe…., nanti kalo saatnya
koreksi datang, saatnya si EL teriak “My Turn”, kite ngaso dulu, minggir….,
nah begitu nyampe bawah kite mbonceng lagi….., dapet dah bolak balik…,
hehehe…, jadi ngga usah ribet nunguin crash baru mau belanja…, gue jamin,
banyakan dari yg pada nunguin crash, kalo di kasih crash beneran pasti
ngibrit paling kenceng…, wong harga naik terus aja ngga berani beli kok, apa
lagi turun-turun terus…., hehehe

 

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Subject: Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

 




Kalau pagi² dimerahin gerombolan copet beraksi dong prof?

Hehehe...



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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:57:40 +
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Subject: Re: [ob] Bentar lagi DOW 9000

  

Bozz PASTI bagi barang, kalo ngga dibagi, harga bakal AR doong.., hehehe

Tapi gini ya, Bozz kemungkinan memang akan kontrarian, tapi ngga akan
melawan market.., artinya bisa aja si BOZZ bakal nimpukin pagi2, tapi bukan
berarti si BOZZ lagi bearish..., hehe..

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:51:46 -0500
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Bozz timpukin .. kira ngeles dong .. seeettt ... ada Prof JT yang bantuin ..

Kalo lagi ada duit ... timpukin aja bozz .. ane tangkep nanti .. hehehehehe








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Re: [ob] PTBA 11800

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Bukan Pak

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:35:50 
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Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800


Prof JT mau tanya nih, sorry ya . aapa nama lain anda SV ya , my Teacher

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:19:08 
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Kalo urusan WAVE, coba tanya ke Mbah, Ibu Rokaya, atau Pak Hans., mereka
ahlinya..,  ane ngga menguasai ilmu wave, Cuma tau gitu-gitu aje, sekedar
sok-sok'an aje., hehe.., jadi ane ngga berani kasih komentar. J

 

Kalo mau tanya TEORI-nya, coba tanya  Pengamat Market Noh., he's the man.
hehehehe

 

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prof JT.. 
PTBA lagi wave 2 right??
ad small correction sblm lanjut ke highest resistance.. which probably can
reach 13.500

am i right?
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Re: [ob] Re: Tomorrow IHSG 2,200 ?

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Wah gua kesindir nih..., awas lu ya bsk nanya-nanya  Haha..

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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:04:46 
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Yang ribut itu kan yg paling banyak ngepost...
Kabur.



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>
> yesand setuju, sampe ada reversal sign atau tanda2 baru kita action, gitu kan 
> prof ?
> 
> GBU
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JTâ„¢"  wrote:
> >
> > My Point Bill..., ngapain sih kite-kite ini pada ribut bullish bearish 
> > bullish bearish.., sampe mati-matian kayak belain negara aja..., hehe,  
> > kalo nyatanya harga naik ya kita bullish bareng2, dan kalo nyata-nyatanya 
> > harga memang turun ya kite bearish rame-rame, hehe, gampang aja kan? 
> > tul ngga Bill?
> > 
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> > "TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order"
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "billy_wta60" 
> > 
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:33:58 
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Tomorrow IHSG 2,200 ?
> > 
> > 
> > Setuju ama prof, pokoknya dont forget your trailing stop aje, jadi cuan tak 
> > terbatas, tapi opportunity kita masih terlindungi.
> > 
> > hahahahhahaa, iya deh tunggu di 1,800-1,900, wihihihihihh
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Tenang aje Bill.., udh banyak yg prediksi akan koreksi di 2200-2250, tau
> > > bener apa ngga, kite mah ngga pusing, tinggal pasang trailing stop, begitu
> > > kena kite mabur, as simple as that..., trus tongkrongin lagi dibawah 
> > > noceng,
> > > yg bisa ngeshort, bisa ngeshort dah..., paling di 1800-1900 bakal ada lagi
> > > yg mulai teriak "BUY NOW"..., nah kite mbonceng lagi dah all the way 
> > > up...,
> > > hehe, nyang teriak baru dapet satu rit kite udah dapet dua rit? Hehe..., 
> > > 
> > > JT 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of billy_wta60
> > > Sent: 23 Juli 2009 22:21
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ob] Tomorrow IHSG 2,200 ?
> > > 
> > > Dow udah naik hampir 2 %, Oil $ 66.31, kayaknya besok bisa langsung 2,200
> > > nih, tiati ntar bozz contrarian, soalnya cuan kasar udah 100 %
> > > 
> > > low IHSG 1,089 X 2 = 2,178, anggep + 1 % lagi buat bayar fee beli jual,
> > > SOPIR, wkwkwkkwkw, internet, listrik, komputer, wkwkwkkwkwkw
> > > 
> > > jadi 2,178 x 101 % = 2,199 --> 2,200
> > > 
> > > wuihh, hati2 aja kalau volume kecil pas sentuh 2,200. mendingan TP dulu,
> > > apalagi bsk Jumat
> > > 
> > > GBU
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [ob] To El, have you read my mail, dear

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Coba di 'liatin pake I Ching pak.., kira2 cocok gak ??

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G-Man kayaknya ada 'interest' ke EL..
>
> Wuahahaha...
> This is so funny, I think Elaine likes funny things also.
> What made G-Man doubts that El is not a lady...?
> Because of her super-power man-like aggressiveness
> as an FM for F company?
> Well, I like your style though, G-Man, a straight to the point and
> admit your fault right after your attacks. Great deeds.
> I'm sure Elaine will take this as an exceptional circumstances that
> men... eventually will BOW to women... hahaha...[?][?][?]
> *BOW = Buy On Weakness
> (just kidding...)
> *
> 
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, G-MAN  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >  Dear El,
> >
> >
> > I must admit you more and more sounded like a woman.
> >
> > I don't mind if you remove me from your friendlist El,
> >
> > It's your right and it's my fault.
> >
> > but pls let me explain few things first
> >
> >
> >
> > I know you and have seen your "links".  No doubt El,
> >
> > No doubt at all.  You have been proven and I myself see it coming too.
> >
> > I'm not trying to offend you / humiliate you in anyway, and I believe none
> > in this mailing list are intending to do so.
> >
> > It just that when people get stressed, they tend to release it with jokes,
> > sometimes too rough.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm in a way of enjoying myself, playing this 'money game'.
> >
> > I'm not playing seriously and I am very interested when you mark the
> > countdown.
> >
> > Just a simple curiosity and kinda' scolding people that resembling 'monkey'
> >
> > That's it, never occur in my mind that you will be sad like that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please accept my sincere apology, my dear El.
> >
> > now I'm a nice guy, really, I'm different from the last time we 'write'.
> >
> > don't be angry with us, we all need you here, from time to time,
> >
> > whoever and where ever you are, my lady.
> >
> >
> >
> > By the way, it's only 5 days away from 'sudden death' my lady
> >
> > Can't wait for the big show.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > G B U
> >
> >
> >
> > G-MAN
> >
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: [ob] To El, have you read my mail, dear

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
'Volume' lu kurang gede sih, jadi kurang pede..., wakakaka, wuss..

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That's  why  i  like  "aggresive  woman",  bu  fifi...Like  Elaine.

Soalnya  sy  kan  co  pemalu.
ehem  :)


Hehehe...  just  kidding.
(pasti  ada  yg  sirik  lagi  nih,  :p  )



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young  wrote:
>
> Wuahahaha...
> This is so funny, I think Elaine likes funny things also.
> What made G-Man doubts that El is not a lady...?
> Because of her super-power man-like aggressiveness
> as an FM for F company?
> Well, I like your style though, G-Man, a straight to the point and
> admit your fault right after your attacks. Great deeds.
> I'm sure Elaine will take this as an exceptional circumstances that
> men... eventually will BOW to women... hahaha...[?][?][?]
> *BOW = Buy On Weakness
> (just kidding...)
> *
> 
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, G-MAN  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >  Dear El,
> >
> >
> > I must admit you more and more sounded like a woman.
> >
> > I don't mind if you remove me from your friendlist El,
> >
> > It's your right and it's my fault.
> >
> > but pls let me explain few things first
> >
> >
> >
> > I know you and have seen your "links".  No doubt El,
> >
> > No doubt at all.  You have been proven and I myself see it coming too.
> >
> > I'm not trying to offend you / humiliate you in anyway, and I believe none
> > in this mailing list are intending to do so.
> >
> > It just that when people get stressed, they tend to release it with jokes,
> > sometimes too rough.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm in a way of enjoying myself, playing this 'money game'.
> >
> > I'm not playing seriously and I am very interested when you mark the
> > countdown.
> >
> > Just a simple curiosity and kinda' scolding people that resembling 'monkey'
> >
> > That's it, never occur in my mind that you will be sad like that.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please accept my sincere apology, my dear El.
> >
> > now I'm a nice guy, really, I'm different from the last time we 'write'.
> >
> > don't be angry with us, we all need you here, from time to time,
> >
> > whoever and where ever you are, my lady.
> >
> >
> >
> > By the way, it's only 5 days away from 'sudden death' my lady
> >
> > Can't wait for the big show.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > G B U
> >
> >
> >
> > G-MAN
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>






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Re: [ob] To El, have you read my mail, dear

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik JT
Iye Bu, dari pada puyeng mikirin bearish bullish, trus pada berantem, mendingan 
kite ngomong yg ringan2 aja lah..., si EL sebenernya juga sense of humornya 
tinggi tuh (halah, EL lagi dah..), cuma gak tau kenape belakangan doi lagi 
sensi, ane gak berani ganggu dulu,  hehe..  


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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:37:30 
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Subject: Re: [ob] To El, have you read my mail, dear


Prof kite makin hari makin lucu-lucuan ye...?
wuahaha...

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:18 PM, JT™  wrote:

> 'Volume' lu kurang gede sih, jadi kurang pede..., wakakaka, wuss..
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: "boyz" 
>
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:10:45
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] To El, have you read my mail, dear
>
>
> That's  why  i  like  "aggresive  woman",  bu  fifi...Like  Elaine.
>
> Soalnya  sy  kan  co  pemalu.
> ehem  :)
>
>
> Hehehe...  just  kidding.
> (pasti  ada  yg  sirik  lagi  nih,  :p  )
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young  wrote:
> >
> > Wuahahaha...
> > This is so funny, I think Elaine likes funny things also.
> > What made G-Man doubts that El is not a lady...?
> > Because of her super-power man-like aggressiveness
> > as an FM for F company?
> > Well, I like your style though, G-Man, a straight to the point and
> > admit your fault right after your attacks. Great deeds.
> > I'm sure Elaine will take this as an exceptional circumstances that
> > men... eventually will BOW to women... hahaha...[?][?][?]
> > *BOW = Buy On Weakness
> > (just kidding...)
> > *
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, G-MAN  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Dear El,
> > >
> > >
> > > I must admit you more and more sounded like a woman.
> > >
> > > I don't mind if you remove me from your friendlist El,
> > >
> > > It's your right and it's my fault.
> > >
> > > but pls let me explain few things first
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know you and have seen your "links".  No doubt El,
> > >
> > > No doubt at all.  You have been proven and I myself see it coming too.
> > >
> > > I'm not trying to offend you / humiliate you in anyway, and I believe
> none
> > > in this mailing list are intending to do so.
> > >
> > > It just that when people get stressed, they tend to release it with
> jokes,
> > > sometimes too rough.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm in a way of enjoying myself, playing this 'money game'.
> > >
> > > I'm not playing seriously and I am very interested when you mark the
> > > countdown.
> > >
> > > Just a simple curiosity and kinda' scolding people that resembling
> 'monkey'
> > >
> > > That's it, never occur in my mind that you will be sad like that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please accept my sincere apology, my dear El.
> > >
> > > now I'm a nice guy, really, I'm different from the last time we
> 'write'.
> > >
> > > don't be angry with us, we all need you here, from time to time,
> > >
> > > whoever and where ever you are, my lady.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By the way, it's only 5 days away from 'sudden death' my lady
> > >
> > > Can't wait for the big show.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > G B U
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > G-MAN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik JT
Pertanyaannya, ente abis nonton bokep apa boss ??  Whahaha.

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From: Dean Earwicker 

Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:24:31 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?


Soft landing, but as time passes by it's getting deeper, ...faster,...
Uuh... Harder...and harder...then finally
...
...
...
Eh, maaf tadi pertanyaannya apa yah?..

On 7/24/09, boyz  wrote:
> Just to bridge an open, analytic, thoughtful and friendly discussion in
> here.
> This is not intended to provoke, impose an opinion, or to be chaotic
> debate.
>
> Background:
>
> * IHSG sudah beberapa bulan ini rebound sampai ke posisi
> 2185.Technically speaking, posisi IHSG saat ini sudah sampai pada 61,8%
> Fibonacci Retracement (Posisi tertinggi 2838 - posisi terendah 1089 maka
> 61,8% FR IHSG = 2170,31).
> * Secara Elliot Wave counting, sekarang ini IHSG berada dalam Wave 5.
>
>
>
> Arguments:
>
> Walau masih ada potensi kenaikan, untuk jangka pendek-menengah lebih
> besar probabilitas IHSG untuk terkoreksi.
> Dan dalam konteks fundamental maupun makro ekonomi masih ada
> potensi-potensi yang bisa menyebabkan market men-discount current price.
>
> Tapi melihat baru dimulainya Bull Rally di bursa Amerika dan Eropa  (DJI
> memasuki wave 3), jika mengacu pada intermarket analysis dan market
> psychology, sepertinya irrelevant jika IHSG tidak ikut larut dalam
> euphoria market regional.
>
>
>
> So, which scenario of correction for IHSG may occur?
> Soft Landing or Hard Landing?
>
> Please share your opinion.
> (you can include or add technical, fundamental, bandarmology, news,
> macro economy, or any approach as long as still referring to 1st and 2nd
> line of this post).
>
>
> Thanks for your contribution and have nice weekend.
> Salam,
>
>
>
>
>




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Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik JT
Do you really believe I invest? Nick ane aje JsxTrader.., hehe..,  Kalau pun 
iya paling banter juga cuma 1-2 bulan.., hehe.., well, it was lebih kepada 
"pesan" bahwa kita sdh masuk bullish time saat tembus 1600...,after all, kalau 
anda ikut inpes wkt itu, than you got more than 500 points index by now, Right? 
 Hehehe...

But, I do have porto inpes.., ane pisahin dr porto trading.., so you can call 
me Investrader..., hehe

  
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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:58:27 
To: Milis OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Yup, it always amazes me how easy our seniors change his or her mind. Is it coz 
by OVER analizing or it's really what he or she believe in?

I'm sure our seniors intended to give us an early warning, but seriously for 
newbie it has a significant impact.

I still rembember when IHSG around 1300, Prof JT said that he is going to 
invest when IHSG break 1600...did he??

EL said BUY BUY BUY and invest till 2011 or 2012.  BNBR 5 folds meaning 400 by 
the end of this year. Bimantara groups 10 folds then suddenly She changed her 
mind without giving further clue for those stocks.

Semua yang saya sampaikan di atas semata² untuk kilas balik tanpa bermaksud 
menyalahkan siapapun.  Saya sudah belajar dari pengalaman tersebut dan akan 
berusaha mempunyai trading plan sendiri dan menggunakan OB sebagai sarana untuk 
second or third opinion.

Terima kasih kepada suhu² yang sudah berani menyatakan pendapatnya terlepas 
dari salah benarnya.

Mohon maaf jika ada yang kurang berkenan.




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From: "VF ™" vnnfortuna...@rocketmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:24 
To: Obrolan bandar
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Hahaaa... Pertanyaan bagus neh.. Kapan bs investnya ya... Hihihhiii
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: "[ M S ]" 

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:54:12 
To: Milis OB
Subject: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...



Heavy Nyangkut Zonenya mbah udah lewat tapi koq terhalang dengan Upper PIG Line 
dan DJI, seperti postingan mbah sbb:

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsgzz.png

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png

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Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik JT
Ok, permintaan maaf diterima... :D

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:30:58 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Rasanya lagi dan memang setiap saat selalu ada pihak yg bullish maupun bearish. 
Normalnya pasar selalu begitu, ada beli, ada yg jual. Apalagi di OB banyak 
kepentingan yg bermain di sini. Ya percaya ama sendiri aja (ama pak JT jg boleh 
---> mo baekan nich) he he he 


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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:21:36 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Do you really believe I invest? Nick ane aje JsxTrader.., hehe..,  Kalau pun 
iya paling banter juga cuma 1-2 bulan.., hehe.., well, it was lebih kepada 
"pesan" bahwa kita sdh masuk bullish time saat tembus 1600...,after all, kalau 
anda ikut inpes wkt itu, than you got more than 500 points index by now, Right? 
 Hehehe...

But, I do have porto inpes.., ane pisahin dr porto trading.., so you can call 
me Investrader..., hehe

  
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From: "[ M S ]" 

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:58:27 
To: Milis OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Yup, it always amazes me how easy our seniors change his or her mind. Is it coz 
by OVER analizing or it's really what he or she believe in?

I'm sure our seniors intended to give us an early warning, but seriously for 
newbie it has a significant impact.

I still rembember when IHSG around 1300, Prof JT said that he is going to 
invest when IHSG break 1600...did he??

EL said BUY BUY BUY and invest till 2011 or 2012.  BNBR 5 folds meaning 400 by 
the end of this year. Bimantara groups 10 folds then suddenly She changed her 
mind without giving further clue for those stocks.

Semua yang saya sampaikan di atas semata² untuk kilas balik tanpa bermaksud 
menyalahkan siapapun.  Saya sudah belajar dari pengalaman tersebut dan akan 
berusaha mempunyai trading plan sendiri dan menggunakan OB sebagai sarana untuk 
second or third opinion.

Terima kasih kepada suhu² yang sudah berani menyatakan pendapatnya terlepas 
dari salah benarnya.

Mohon maaf jika ada yang kurang berkenan.




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-Original Message-
From: "VF ™" vnnfortuna...@rocketmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:24 
To: Obrolan bandar
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Hahaaa... Pertanyaan bagus neh.. Kapan bs investnya ya... Hihihhiii
- VF -

-Original Message-
From: "[ M S ]" 

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:54:12 
To: Milis OB
Subject: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...



Heavy Nyangkut Zonenya mbah udah lewat tapi koq terhalang dengan Upper PIG Line 
dan DJI, seperti postingan mbah sbb:

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsgzz.png

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png

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Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik JT
Ya itu lah.., belajar TA mah gak susah, yg susah meyakininya.., dan itulah 
kalau kita dengerin orang lain instead of chart, pengalaman saya sih kalau itu 
kita lakukan, banyakan salahnya dari pada benernya... Hehe

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Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:04:06 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


Itu mah maksudnya bercanda Pak Vividtrader.
Jadi ceritanya kan selama naik banyak yg ragu apa ini sudah waktunya untuk
invest atau belum, padahal marketnya masih naik terus. Kayak saya gitu Pak
:)

Gini nih Pak ceritanya : Dari bottom misalnya dah ada kenaikan, tapi krn
ragu akhirnya saya tunggu tembus MA50 biar yakin dolo kalo kenaikannya ini
bener2 sehat gitu. terus pas tembus, denger kanan kiri lagi dan ada yg
bilang, ati2 ini bear rally. Kenaikannya blom bisa di bilang "long term
bullish" kalo belum nembus MA200. Akhirnya ditunggu lagi lah sama saya
hehehe. Bayangannya saat itu, pas tembus MA200 mau disiplin beli. Ehhh pas
tembus MA200 nya, denger kanan kiri lagi dan ada yg bilang ati2 ini bandar
lagi lepas barang, abis itu mau di banting lagi hehehehe. Karena takut yah
ga beli lagi sambil nunggu MA200 nya di tes beberapa kali gitu untuk buktiin
bahwa ini adalah uptrend yg kuat. Setelah 3-4 kali di tes ( ini belum
terjadi deh kalo ga salah ) akhirnya saya bayangin baru deh saya yakin ini
"saat" yg tepat buat inpes. Lompatlah saya ke Market dimana saat itu rata2
berita biasanya positif, orang2 yakin bahwa pasar saham ternyata ga
beresiko, dan pokoknya semua hal yg baik2 deh mengenai saham. Abis itu sih
tebakan saya mah ga lama lagi yah Pak hehehe (hanya nebak, dan ga punya
senjata buat ngitung2)

2009/7/25 vividtrader 

>
>
> Taunya itu puncak atau enggak dari mana Om Hutan Lebat?
>
> Pada 25 Juli 2009 21:54, HL  menulis:
>
>
>>
>> Mungkin 10-20% sebelum puncak kemudian berbalik arah lagi kali yah Pak
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:39 PM, VF ™ wrote:
>>
>>> Hahaaa... Pertanyaan bagus neh.. Kapan bs investnya ya... Hihihhiii
>>> - VF -
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "[ M S ]" 
>>>
>>> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:54:12
>>> To: Milis OB
>>> Subject: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Heavy Nyangkut Zonenya mbah udah lewat tapi koq terhalang dengan Upper
>>> PIG Line dan DJI, seperti postingan mbah sbb:
>>>
>>> http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsgzz.png
>>>
>>> http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png
>>>
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Re: [ob] IHSG MAP - BEARISH or BULLISH

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Kita lagi ngomongin apakah major trend lagi bullish atau bearish sir.., apa 
ukurannya, apa batasannya...,  kalo urusan beli atau jual ya back to TA masing2 
saham lah dan tentunya utk eksekusi ya jgn pake weekly chart.. :)

Ok let say IHSG kita anggap saham dan kita keluar masuk sesuai macd signal on 
weekly.., sure pasti akan selalu telat baik beli atau jual, apalagi ini weekly 
chart (you know that, you know how macd works) tapi kalo kita ikuti dgn 
konsisten, baik beli atau jual, kita selamet dari crash 2008.., coba liat kapan 
terakhir macd DC dan kapan terakhir GC, berapa point anda selamet? Hehe

Well.., Anda tau lah, you can not get the highest or lowest level by using MACD.

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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:03:47 
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Sekedar perbandingan dari gambar yang sama.
CMIIW Kayaknya selling di MACD weekly cross down bisa end up selling near
bottom for every correction


On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM, JT  wrote:

>
>
>  Wew, rame juga ya perdebatan bullish, bearish, soft or hard landing,
> invest or trade, wave sekian, wave sekian…. etc.., etc….. seru juga..
> hehe.., Here’s my view BASE ON TA, yes just simple TA, bukan Rumors, bukan
> Isu, apalagi Gossip….
>
>
>
> Oh ya, in sekalian meresponse statement my dear friend EL yg mengatakan :
> *Some tech guys are pretending to be calm both in OB and on my facebook
> wall…., *(tech yg mana nih EL…? I am perfectly CALM)
>
>
>
> Here’s what I see…, NO MAGIC.., NO sophisticated tools…, just simple good
> old and trusted tools…, I will GO bearish when MACD at WEEKLY chart dead
> cross…, terlambat?? Ngga juga, karena keputusan beli dan jual tetap mengacu
> pada TA masing2 saham, dan timingnya/eksekusi tetap menggunakan daily
> chart..,  after all I am a trader just like most of us (termasuk EL).., so
> no worry to be late.
>
>
>
> this simple chart saya pakai sebagai INDIKATOR apakah IHSG Bearish Or
> Bullish, no rumors, no isu, apalagi dengerin gossip…, you tell me lah where
> we are now, and you tell me if there is any sign of reversal yet? Hehehe
>
>
>
> Have a nice weekend every one… J
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> JT
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Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Kalo Mbah kirim donat, saya mau kirim pisang ambon aja dah mbah.., biar die 
inget terus sama ane, hehehe

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of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:16:43 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


EL have donate A LOT of knowledge to us. her contribution to
OB is PRICELESS...

Last El's prediction and analysis about BIG correction in the near 
future is A VERY BIG donation if it comes TRUE.

Secara bandarmologi, jika koreksi ini datang TIBA TIBA, maka
BD pun akan kena JITAK, tapi jika koreksinya datang bertahap, maka
Reksadana yg akan kena jitak.

Embah memberikan PERHATIAN PENUH atas warning EL ini, dan jika 
terjadi Related Capital Outflow, embah akan kasih warning, tapi
jika BD pun kena gebug, maka SEMUA AKAN merana.

Note:
- Kalo EL kasih alamat, embah mau kirim DONAT aja ama EL.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "[ M S ]"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I have donated to mbah and I wish to donate more in the near future. EL, u 
> are making so much profit, have u donate to mbah?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "[ M S ]" 
> 
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:49 
> To: Milis OB
> Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...
> 
> 
> 
> I have no reason to whine or complain to anybody coz when I started investing 
> in equity market back in Nov 08, I only invested a very small portion of what 
> I have and was ready to loose it ALL as a fee for learning.  
> 
> I'm here to learn so by the time I can hand over my business to professionals 
> or my kids, I will be prepared and hopefully be a smart investor and trader.
> 
> Yes, I started with ZERO knowledge, I don't even know what BUMI stands for at 
> that time.  And yes I had no trading plan, I buy and sell stocks base on 
> rumors in OB. Because it's Bullish I gain more than 100% till Mei 09.  
> 
> Selama Nov 08 - Mei 09 saya NGAK banyak belajar karena merasa trading 
> gampang.  Setelah cuci gudang Mei 09 dan fully cash about a month, mulai 
> tergoda lagi dengan rumors OB dan kemudian belanja lagi dan Nyangkut sampai 
> sekarang.  
> 
> Nyangkut ternyata memacu saya untuk belajar.  So basically I started learning 
> only about a month ago.  That's why I consider myself as newbie, but it won't 
> be   forever.
> 
> Learning to be a Nyakuter is part of the game and I'm glad that happen to me 
> coz it motivates me to learn. 
> 
> I'll take advantage both bull or bear, if bull I'll gain if bear I'll learn.  
> 
> You give a top priorty to your portfolio, you are an excellent FM, could u 
> please share what's the minimum fund that you are willing to handle?
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elaine Sui 
> 
> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:44:17 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...
> 
> 
> *It's common problem. Most ppl like to put him/herself as a victim of
> bandars, seniors, bozz, whatever. (Refer to my post about the 'Psychology of
> blame') Why do you consider yourself as a newbie (forever?). Why are you
> following me or Mbah? Anyway, like I said before I can and have to change my
> strategy when fundamentals change.
> 
> Protecting my portfolios is my top priority, it's even more important than
> making profit. It is my job, especially when I sense danger, but again: nobody
> is obligated to follow me. If you choose to follow me then don't complain
> for God sake. I hate whiners. [?][?][?]
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM, [ M S ]  wrote:
> 
> > Yup, it always amazes me how easy our seniors change his or her mind. Is it
> > coz by OVER analizing or it's really what he or she believe in?
> >
> > I'm sure our seniors intended to give us an early warning, but seriously
> > for newbie it has a significant impact.
> >
> > I still rembember when IHSG around 1300, Prof JT said that he is going to
> > invest when IHSG break 1600...did he??
> >
> > EL said BUY BUY BUY and invest till 2011 or 2012.  BNBR 5 folds meaning 400
> > by the end of this year. Bimantara groups 10 folds then suddenly She changed
> > her mind without giving further clue for those stocks.
> >
> > Semua yang saya sampaikan di atas semata² untuk kilas balik tanpa bermaksud
> > menyalahkan siapapun.  Saya sudah belajar dari pengalaman tersebut dan akan
> > berusaha mempunyai trading plan sendiri dan menggunakan OB sebagai sarana
> > untuk second or third opinion.
> >
> > Terima kasih kepada suhu² yang sudah berani menyatakan pendapatnya terlepas
> > dari salah benarnya.
> >
> > Mohon maaf jika ada yang kurang berkenan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
> > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "VF ™" vnnfortuna...@...
> >
> > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:24
> >

Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Ah ngga lah Pak, that's nothing.., sumpe bukan merendah.., masih banyak orang 
disekitar kita yg senang berbagi kok, cuma kita-kita aja yg kadang2 curiga kalo 
ada orang yg baik sama kita.., hehehe...

Anyway, thank you very much buat do'anya. Amin.

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of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: anddreee 486 

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:48 
To: 
Subject: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)


wah JT luar biasa ,Terima kasih JT,zaman sekarang ternyata masih ada orang
sebaik JT( I enjoy myself helping other people (not only in market or OB,
but also in real live) ada KEPUASAN tersendiri yg ngga bisa dibeli dengan
duit) ,semoga terus diberkati TUHAN dengan segala yang baik dari SURGA dan
untuk VF terima kasih atas informasinya serta teman-teman  yang lain atas
diskusi yang menarik sehingga wawasan kita bertambah sehingga kita lebih
waspada .sambil menunggu peperangan hari senin siapa yang lebih kuat bull
atau bear , semoga bull menang lagi semua disini happy cuan terus .

2009/7/26 JT 

>
>
>  Karena nama ane kebawa-bawa, terpaksa ane kasih komentar dah…,
>
>
>
> Gini, saya setuju dengan anda, info berbayar sah-sah aja.., there is
> nothing wrong with that, kalau memang bisa kasih cuan, WHY NOT?  Malah saya
> lihat informasi berbayar yg diberikan teman-teman masih KEMURAHAN dan
> malu-malu untuk ngecharge tinggi…, coba bandingkan dengan jasa penyedia TIPS
> Bola…, bisa sampe ratusan dolar hanya untuk 10 tips yg BENAR…, hehehe…, yg
> sdh berani kasih ‘harga’ adalah om JACK…, sayang doi ngga berani kasih
> guarantee…., If I were Jack Cowok, I would give money Back Guarantee.., I
> would stand behind what I sell !
>
>
>
> AKAN TETAPI…, memberikan info gratis BUKAN BERARTI punya niat “menjual
> sesuatu” atau “ada agenda tertentu”…., NO SIR, anda mungkin seperti itu, but
> not me…, I enjoy myself helping other people (not only in market or OB, but
> also in real live) ada KEPUASAN tersendiri yg ngga bisa dibeli dengan
> duit…,  Oh Yes I love money and I Do businesses…, but I also do SHARING and
> Help People…, that’s two different things, and can be done at the same
> time.,
>
>
>
> My point, business is business.., sharing ya sharing.., and I do both…,
>  jadi kalau anda bilang ngga ada “free lunch” di dunia persahaman, anda
> salah, karena saya sering traktir orang makan siang…., hehehe
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *XXX
> *Sent:* 25 Juli 2009 18:31
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)
>
>
>
>
>
> Informasi berbayar sah-sah saja. Karena Ilmu saham itu ditimba dengan
> keringat & ongkos yang mahal. Nggak ada yang "free lunch" di dunia
> persahaman. Banyak yang di awal-awal seolah-olah memberi gratis &
> tulus,..tapi pada akhirnya juga "menjual sesuatu" or "ada agenda tertentu".
> Tapi menurut saya, itu semua sah-sah saja dan normal.
>
> 2009/7/24 Aria Santoso 
>
> Teman-teman Obers,
> Sebelum milis ini menjadi tempat men-diskredit-kan seseorang atau
> membentuk opini publik yg kurang tepat terhadap profesi seseorang, saya
> ingin memberikan opini utk balancing.
>
> JT memang sangat baik dengan memberikan analisa gratis di milis ini,
> memandu para newbie trader (termasuk saya) dan banyak menjawab
> pertanyaan dari para member lain. Tapi saya rasa milis ini bukan
> tempatnya untuk membandingkan tokoh mana yang lebih baik dari tokoh
> lain, apalagi hanya dinilai dari layanan yang menerima bayaran.
>
> Saya pernah bertemu dengan JT dan juga dengan SV dalam kesempatan yang
> berbeda. Saat mereka memberikan penjelasan pada audience workshop,
> keduanya terlihat sangat berdedikasi untuk berusaha agar para hadirin
> memahami setiap perihal yang disampaikan.
>
> Saya juga penah mendengar "nada miring" saat JT mulai memberikan kursus
> sehingga ada yg berpendapat bahwa JT memberikan analisa gratis di milis
> OB hanya utk promosi trainingnya, padahal sangat bisa dimengerti bahwa
> diperlukan pemahaman dasar yang cukup sebelum kita mampu membaca chart
> dan banyak hal lain yang hanya dapat disampaikan dengan baik dengan cara
> bertatap muka dalam komunikasi lisan.
>
> Memberikan training berbayar bukan berarti mengurangi nilai baik
> seseorang. Demikian pula bagi mereka yg memberikan service rekomendasi
> berbayar, tidak bisa dinilai kurang baik dari yg memberikan secara
> gratis. Itu soal pilihan hidup, ada yang bersedia memberikan waktunya
> utk mengabdi pada komunitas sosial, ada yg memilih untuk memberi harga
> atas hasil 'jerih payah'nya.
>
> Kita senang segala hal yang gratis tapi tidak seharusnya menganggap
> mereka yg tidak memberikan service secara gratis artinya kurang atau
> tidak baik dibandingkan mereka yg memberikan secara gratis.
>
> Salam,
> Ace
>
>
>
> Sanjaya wrote:
> >
> > JT bukan SV.
> >
> > SV mah mana 

Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Salam kenal juga pak, minggu depan tgl 1 Agst, saya ada kelas "Price N Volume 
Relationship Analysis".., di design untuk yg sudah mengenal Basic TA dan Chart 
Reading..., kalau anda belum paham TA sama sekali dan belum familiar dgn 
charting, sebaiknya ambil kelas "Intro to TA" dulu, kalau ngga nanti malah jadi 
bingung..., hehe.., 

Untuk kelas Intro, kemungkinan akan kita adakan bulan depan juga, jadwal 
tepatnya saya belum dapet, nanti akan diumumkan oleh Pak Hans.

Thank You for asking Sir.

JT

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-Original Message-
From: franky.chand...@gmail.com

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:45:24 
To: 
Subject: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)


Salam kenal pak JT, saya baru dimilis ini... pak jt sekarang lagi ada buka 
kelas pelatihan TA n Chart?? 
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-Original Message-
From: "JT™" jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:56:18 
To: 
Subject: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)


Ah ngga lah Pak, that's nothing.., sumpe bukan merendah.., masih banyak orang 
disekitar kita yg senang berbagi kok, cuma kita-kita aja yg kadang2 curiga kalo 
ada orang yg baik sama kita.., hehehe...

Anyway, thank you very much buat do'anya. Amin.

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: anddreee 486 

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:42:48 
To: 
Subject: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)


wah JT luar biasa ,Terima kasih JT,zaman sekarang ternyata masih ada orang
sebaik JT( I enjoy myself helping other people (not only in market or OB,
but also in real live) ada KEPUASAN tersendiri yg ngga bisa dibeli dengan
duit) ,semoga terus diberkati TUHAN dengan segala yang baik dari SURGA dan
untuk VF terima kasih atas informasinya serta teman-teman  yang lain atas
diskusi yang menarik sehingga wawasan kita bertambah sehingga kita lebih
waspada .sambil menunggu peperangan hari senin siapa yang lebih kuat bull
atau bear , semoga bull menang lagi semua disini happy cuan terus .

2009/7/26 JT 

>
>
>  Karena nama ane kebawa-bawa, terpaksa ane kasih komentar dah…,
>
>
>
> Gini, saya setuju dengan anda, info berbayar sah-sah aja.., there is
> nothing wrong with that, kalau memang bisa kasih cuan, WHY NOT?  Malah saya
> lihat informasi berbayar yg diberikan teman-teman masih KEMURAHAN dan
> malu-malu untuk ngecharge tinggi…, coba bandingkan dengan jasa penyedia TIPS
> Bola…, bisa sampe ratusan dolar hanya untuk 10 tips yg BENAR…, hehehe…, yg
> sdh berani kasih ‘harga’ adalah om JACK…, sayang doi ngga berani kasih
> guarantee…., If I were Jack Cowok, I would give money Back Guarantee.., I
> would stand behind what I sell !
>
>
>
> AKAN TETAPI…, memberikan info gratis BUKAN BERARTI punya niat “menjual
> sesuatu” atau “ada agenda tertentu”…., NO SIR, anda mungkin seperti itu, but
> not me…, I enjoy myself helping other people (not only in market or OB, but
> also in real live) ada KEPUASAN tersendiri yg ngga bisa dibeli dengan
> duit…,  Oh Yes I love money and I Do businesses…, but I also do SHARING and
> Help People…, that’s two different things, and can be done at the same
> time.,
>
>
>
> My point, business is business.., sharing ya sharing.., and I do both…,
>  jadi kalau anda bilang ngga ada “free lunch” di dunia persahaman, anda
> salah, karena saya sering traktir orang makan siang…., hehehe
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *XXX
> *Sent:* 25 Juli 2009 18:31
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)
>
>
>
>
>
> Informasi berbayar sah-sah saja. Karena Ilmu saham itu ditimba dengan
> keringat & ongkos yang mahal. Nggak ada yang "free lunch" di dunia
> persahaman. Banyak yang di awal-awal seolah-olah memberi gratis &
> tulus,..tapi pada akhirnya juga "menjual sesuatu" or "ada agenda tertentu".
> Tapi menurut saya, itu semua sah-sah saja dan normal.
>
> 2009/7/24 Aria Santoso 
>
> Teman-teman Obers,
> Sebelum milis ini menjadi tempat men-diskredit-kan seseorang atau
> membentuk opini publik yg kurang tepat terhadap profesi seseorang, saya
> ingin memberikan opini utk balancing.
>
> JT memang sangat baik dengan memberikan analisa gratis di milis ini,
> memandu para newbie trader (termasuk saya) dan banyak menjawab
> pertanyaan dari para member lain. Tapi saya rasa milis ini bukan
> tempatnya untuk membandingkan tokoh mana yang lebih baik dari tokoh
> lain, apalagi han

Re: Bls: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Yaaa, ni lagiii.., that was too much bro.., lu ngga tau aje kalo gue lagi 
nyebelin, sampe sering dimusuhin and ngga dikasih jatah ma bini.., whahaha..,

Dah ah, idung gua kembang kempis nih.., hehe..,  anyway, thank you for you 
appreciation Sir..

JT
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-Original Message-
From: "boyz" 

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:27:42 
To: 
Subject: Bls: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)


JT's profile on my records,
baru nongol di OB akhir thn 2007, belum terlalu menonjol sampai
pertengahan 2008.
(eh apa sebelum itu udah ya? tau deh. tapi baru masuk radar at 
pertengahan 2008).

Selama di OB, banyak pendekar-pendekar bermunculan. Easy come and easy
go...
Dengan melihat posting-2 nya, bisa kita nilai kerendahan hati-nya
ataupun ketinggian ego-nya.
Dari situ pula dapat diperkirakan panjang/pendek umurnya di OB,
hehehe...

Kalau yg udah cukup lama di OB, mungkin masih ingat kalau saya pernah
posting ttg:
Di dunia persilatan ini, hanya pendekar berilmu tinggi yang mempunyai
kerendahan hati yg akan bertahan.
Yang berilmu tinggi tapi tinggi hati, akan cepat mati. Apalagi yang baru
turun gunung sudah petantang-petenteng merasa ilmunya tak terkalahkan...

Nah, Bro JT ini termasuk Pendekar berilmu tinggi yang mempunyai
kerendahan hati.
Seinget gw sewaktu JT mulai populer...  dalam memposting, feedback
posting, memberikan analisa, ataupun dalam meng-counter analisa orang
lain, belum pernah terkesan "sombong atau arogan", apalagi "ngeles".
Kadang2 pernah sih, but we knew that he was kidding.
Saat itu, saat membaca beberapa postingan bro JT, gw berkata dalam hati
: "panjang umur nih orang". hehehe...

Sorry kalau ada yg tidak berkenan, bukan bermaksud memblow-up ataupun
menjilat.
I know lah bro, u gak mau di puji-puji. but it is truly come from my
memories.

Keep it up, bro JT. GBU.

Mudah-mudahan menjadi inspirasi bagi yang lain.

Salam,


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, VF â„¢ 
wrote:
>
> betul prof... saya juga salut dg anda sekalipun sy blm pernah bertemu
dg anda...
> terkadang sy tdk bisa didepan laptop seharian, bbrp kali saya minta
prof utk posting chart..
> pdhal saat itu adl jam sibuk trading tp tetep beliau sempet buat
posting...
> Sy salut dg anda dan semoga Tuhan membalas dg berkat yg melimpah buat
anda dan keluarga..
>
>  - VF -
>
>
> Dari: noknik anip...@...
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Terkirim: Minggu, 26 Juli, 2009 22:21:25
> Judul: Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)
>
>
> dari dua kursus yg saya ikuti dan bertatap muka langsung dengan JT...
apa yg saya rsakan adalah apa yg dikatakan JT... ada ketulusan saat dia
memberikan info dan bahkan me reply email... go prof... saya senang baca
postingan anda... berisi.. dan seringnya lu.. . (ntar kalau ikut
kursus lagi dpt discount dong ya?) hehehe
>





Re: [ob] OB SEPI, PADA KEMANE NIH PENDEKAR2 OB... ???

2009-07-26 Terurut Topik JT
Mau pitnes dulu pak, biar segeran dikit, disono juga banyak cangcut lo..., 
hehe...

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: kelvin Chang 

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:41:55 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] OB SEPI, PADA KEMANE NIH PENDEKAR2 OB... ???


bakar menyanny buat index naek atau trn nee boss ??
jd curiga, hehehehe





From: Hans Kwee 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:38:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] OB SEPI, PADA KEMANE NIH PENDEKAR2 OB... ???

  
Tenang pak... lagi pada bakar menyan semua...
sambil mantau rt. hehe..


thx
hans



2009/7/27 kelvin Chang 

  >
>mr JT, p Tasrul, p Hans, p Boyz, p Hmin, p oentoeng, dll 
>semuany pd tidur kah.. ???
>hehehehe 
>
>

   


  


Re: [ob] BLTA

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Ane masih diluar nih, masih off screen..., jangan cuma liat volume pak, liat 
juga harganya, kalo ngga kuat close diatas 830 sih agak berabe, kalo tembus itu 
baru cakep, ntar sorean ane liatin dah..


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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: Bayu Kusuma 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:13:24 
To: Obrolan Bandar
Subject: [ob] BLTA


Prof JT gimana ya BLTA profcukup ga ya volumenya hari ini buat 
masukThanks:)



  


Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??
 
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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: Charles Atmaja 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandar
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan


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Re: [ob] INDF & INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane lupa, 
tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it is safe 
to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.


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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
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-Original Message-
From: Henry Liem 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 
To: 
Subject: [ob] INDF & INCO (Prof JT, need backup)


Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S & R
nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya



Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Yaaa.., 400 rebu lot utk bumi mah masih kecil dong, rata2nya kalo ngga salah 1 
juta'an

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From: "Thomas Frederick" 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:56:40 
To: OB
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Hampir 400rb lot pakk... Ayo balik2...
-Original Message-
From: "JT™" 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:47:05 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Mendadak Dangdut??, wuih keren.., musti buru2 balik neh..., volume dah berapa 
pak??
 
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From: Charles Atmaja 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:38:56 
To: obrolan bandar
Subject: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan


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Re: [ob] INDF & INCO (Prof JT, need backup)

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Itu namanya akumulasi.., tungguin aja, ntar kalo BD dah kelar ngumpulin, pasti 
ngajak2 lah, cuma kite bakal disuruh makan atas..., hehehe

Wah, si Mbah akhir tahun bakal nyabak dokat neh.., hehe

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From: yosua 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:12:42 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] INDF & INCO (Prof JT, need backup)


prof yang kagak enak bnbr,volume udah sejuta tapi harga kagak naik-naik,msih 
pegang prof?

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From: JT™ 
Subject: Re: [ob] INDF & INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 2:52 PM

 Wah, lupa euy.., kalo gak salah support kuat indf di 2000-2050, inco ane 
lupa, tapi kalo yg ane inget, jika inco bisa close above yesterday high, it is 
safe to hold dan cenderung keatas... Insya Allah.

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”From:  Henry Liem 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:09 +0700
To: 
Subject: [ob] INDF  INCO (Prof JT, need backup)
  Prof, tlg bantu analisa mengenai trend dgn volume sampai saat ini. brp S 
& R nya ?

hatur nuhun sebelumnya
  


  


Re: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Ex dev hari guyur2an, yg cuma ngarepin dev bakal kabur hari itu... Hehehe
  
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From: Charles Atmaja 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:02:39 
To: 
Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???


sekalian dapet deviden ya prof? :)

BTW, prof mau tanya kalo cumd ate kan tanggal di mana kalo kita lagi pegang 
saham kita dapet deviden... trus kalo ex date itu apa? sori pertanyaan 
amatiran.. daripada salah mengerti mendingan nanya deh hehe





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Judul: RE: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

  
Ane Baru cek intraday nih…, hmmm.., yg mau nyimpen atau tambo ciek monggo, 
resiko ditanggung penumpang ya.., ane ngantri buat bekel besok-besok…,  kalo 
nyangkut temennya banyak kok…. Hehe.., ini bukan ngajak, Cuma ngomporin…, ngga 
terima complain ya.. he
 
Sebelum ambil keputusan, Examine your own chart very carefully !! TA is not 
100% fool Proof.
 
JT
 
 
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To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???
 


ini diem lagi hehe..
banyak yg buang kiri malah
 

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Wow... ada apa ni???
tadi sesi 1 kaya lagi bobo... sesi 2 mendadak jalan...
 



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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane tebak 
sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and tlkm, maka 
kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan men-trigger sell 
off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!. Hehe

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From: Dean Earwicker 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
+18 ke IHSG.

Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
murah.

Pertanyaannya:
Untuk apa BD me"manipulasi" IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?

Jawaban:
A. Supaya bisa jualan
B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan

Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.

Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?

Regards,
DE

2009/7/27 Jacob Oen :
> Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio 
> (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
>
> Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
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Re: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Amin, amin.., that's all I want.

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:19:04 
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Subject: RE: [ob] (To: Pak JT dan OB'ers senior) mohon terawang BKSL dan MNCN


Ok Pak JT. tx atas jawabannya...
Semoga pahala bapak besar di surga karena banyak membantu orang

Regards,

Firman




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Bukan Cuma BKSL dan MNCN yg ngga naik (padahal index kenceng)..,
banyak saham2 lainnya juga begitu, bbrp hari ini index naik karena saham-saham
jagoan aja kayak tlkm dan unvr.., jadi ngga mencerminkan gerakan secara
keseluruhan…, memang ini bikin bête and frustasi, tapi ya mau bilang apa, 
hehe.. 

   

BD kedua saham tsb keliatan lagi ngga begitu aktif, paling Cuma lagi
nge’jagain doang…, sabar aja lah Pak, mungkin tunggu momen atau “cerita” bagus,
baru digerakin lagi…, J 

   

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  Sore pak JT dan senior OB'ers, mohon terawangannya BKSL dan MNCN.

  Kok IHSG udah naik tajam 2 saham ini ga naik2

  

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Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Siaga Ember. Hehe

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From: fifi young 

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:48:33 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58


Berarti *BAHAYA* mengancam ya...?
Siaga berapa...? Just be alert...!
Thanks for the warning.


2009/7/27 JT™ 

> Supaya bisa jualan?? Hmm, too easy to guess, gampang kebaca.., kalo ane
> tebak sih supaya gampang ngejorokinnya.., dgn diangkat dulu pake unvr and
> tlkm, maka kalo dijorokin efect jatuhnya akan dasyat, dan diharapkan akan
> men-trigger sell off di saham2 lain yg kaga ikut2an naik.., nah loh !!.
> Hehe
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dean Earwicker 
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:35:45
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58
>
>
> UNVR spt biasa buat ngangkat indeks, berdua dengan TLKM udah nyumbang
> +18 ke IHSG.
>
> Mari kita bermain logika. UNVR adalah saham yang punya weighting/bobot
> yang besar di IHSG, namun karena tidak terlalu likuid (barang di pasar
> sedikit) akibatnya mudah bergerak keatas/bawah. Beberapa waktu ini
> UNVR benar-benar digunakan untuk mengangkat IHSG dengan biaya yang
> murah.
>
> Pertanyaannya:
> Untuk apa BD me"manipulasi" IHSG agar terlihat segar terus?
>
> Jawaban:
> A. Supaya bisa jualan
> B. Supaya investor institusi engga panik, jadi bisa jualan
> C. Supaya tebar pesona di regional, sambil jualan
>
> Saya engga masalah IHSG ijo terus tiap hari juga engga papa, tapi
> harus wajar. Kalo dipaksain naik, nanti kecapekan malah bullnya mesti
> masuk RS... . kita tentu semua mau bull yang sustainable, kalau spt
> ini mainnya, investor yang jeli pasti akan jengah juga.
>
> Betul ga analisa saya Mbah?
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2009/7/27 Jacob Oen :
> > Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8
> Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%).
> >
> > Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts?
> >
>
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Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA.... Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Si Mbah emang paling demen 'ngejorokin' orang.., hehe.., kite tantang balik 
aja, sanggup gak Ilmu Bandarmologi yg tersohor itu ngelawan I Ching ? 
Hehehe... 

wus ngibriittt.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 04:46:18 
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Subject: Re: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09


Pak JT, Billy, Pak Tasrul, dan TA-ers lain, ditantang Mbah tuh, cuma analisa 
BUMI 20 hari, masa ngga berani
komporin dikit ah hehehe


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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:16:16 PM
Subject: [ob] I Ching vs TA Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09

  
Apa mau mau test I Ching 20 hari dengan 1 macam stock saja yaitu
BUMI mulai besok ?.

Jika bisa benar 14 kali atau 70%, I Ching baru Emoy...

Dan apa ada yg mau coba TANDING ama iching pake TA ?.

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> COOL!!!.. 
> 
> Tomorrow prediction please =)..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "ichingprediction" 
> 
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:43:19 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Re: [Ask ICHING] Gimana BUMI hari senen ini? 27 July 09
> 
> 
> For record only: 2125-2050 = +75 0--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, 
> "ichingprediction"  wrote:
> >
> > ICHING answer :
> > 
> > Yang (Old)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yang (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > The present is embodied in Hexagram 35 - Chin (Progress): We see a prince 
> > who secures the tranquility of the people, and is presented on that account 
> > with numerous horses by the king. Three times in a day he is received at 
> > interviews.
> > The topmost line, undivided, show one advancing his horns. But he only uses 
> > them to punish the rebellious people of his own city. The position is 
> > perilous, but there will be good fortune. Yet however firm and correct he 
> > may be, there will be occasion for regret.
> > The situation is evolving slowly, and Yin (the passive feminine force) is 
> > gaining ground.
> > Yin (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yang (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > Yin (New)
> > The future is embodied in Hexagram 16 - Yu (Enthusiasm) : In this state, 
> > feudal princes and other delegates may be set up, and the hosts put in 
> > motion, with advantage.
> > The things most apparent, those above and in front, are embodied by the 
> > upper trigram Li (Fire), which is tansforming into Chen (Thunder). As part 
> > of this process, brightness and warmth are giving way to movement, 
> > initiative, and action.
> > The things least apparent, those below and behind, are embodied by the 
> > lower trigram K'un (Earth), which represents docility and receptivity.
> > 
> > -
> > Interpretasi ane : BUMI naik
> >
>





  


Re: [ob] Re: BUMI technical + MAINKAN group Bakrie

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Ciaaatt...!!

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:08:57 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: BUMI technical + MAINKAN group Bakrie


Embah pikir: Hari ini Harinya Bakrie

MAINKAN

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> 
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Re: [ob] Re: BUMI technical + MAINKAN group Bakrie

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik JT
Cie... Yg pegang barang..., hahaha

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:30:09 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Re: BUMI technical + MAINKAN group Bakrie


*Perhatikan ENRG*
*disclaimer.on.*

2009/7/28 Steven Tan 

>
>
> BUMI mendadak Dangdut.
> BNBR mulai joget, DEWA mulai mabuk, ELTY mulai bangkit.
> BC? Mulai loyo kayanya mbah.
> Apa ini tanda-tanda koreksi sudah dekat mbah? Sama seperti koreksi
> sebelumnya. ABG main, gorengan bangkit, BC retreat, after that ... ???
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:06 AM, JT™  wrote:
>
>> Ciaaatt...!!
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>> To: 
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>>
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>> Embah pikir: Hari ini Harinya Bakrie
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>>
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Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Yoi.., disini kite kagak butuh TA'er lagi, udh kebanyakan.., yg kite butuhkan 
BULLDOZER !!  tubruk terus., Hehehe

 
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:50:38 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?


btul juga lu bro ... hehehe...





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> Jangan.., Jendral Art Jangan diajarin TA.., kalo diajarin TA ntar jadi
malah
> kelamaan mikir, mending die ngga usah ngerti, jadi nyalinya gede, apa
aja
> main tubruk !!..., hahahaha
>
> BTW, katanya mau belajar I Ching ?? Hehe
>
> JT
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The BULLdozer - Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Ente ane kasih gelar dah.., Artomoro The BULLdozer !!!  Hehehe


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jT ama billy pada gile ye, njerumusin gue, ga mau ajarin TA.  sama tuh ama si 
hepi, die juga ga mau ajarin. Ampun dah. Mau Belajar TA  kaga ada yg mau 
ngajarin, apalg iching. macd? tau nya mcdonald doang ama fibo, itu juga 
diajarin ama elaine.

billy_budiman92 wrote: 
>    
>   ahahahhahahaha, bener tuh prof, kalau kayak gini kan lebih 
> ok, pokoknya INDF 2,800, BUMI 3,000, IHSG 2,800 gak pake TA, MODAL duit, 
> koar2, asal tubruk aja, hehehheheheee 
> GBU 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com , "JT"  wrote: 
>> 
>> Jangan.., Jendral Art Jangan diajarin TA.., kalo diajarin TA ntar jadi malah 
>> kelamaan mikir, mending die ngga usah ngerti, jadi nyalinya gede, apa aja 
>> main tubruk !!, hahahaha 
>> 
>> BTW, katanya mau belajar I Ching ?? Hehe 
>> 
>> JT 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> com ] 
>> On Behalf Of artomoro9 
>> Sent: 28 Juli 2009 20:53 
>> To: m457...@... 
>> Cc: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>> Subject: RE: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD? 
>> 
>> Ihsg jatuh dari 2800 ke 1100 = 1700 point = crash. Kita bagi 3 kategori.. 
>> 1700/3 = 567. Kalo  -567 pts = itu soft koreksi, kalo -567x2= -1134 pts = 
>> big koreksi. Nah EL DAN PAK OEN sepakat bahwa akan ada  big koreksi, atau = 
>> -1000 pts, hal ini yg ane kagak setuju. Cape lah ngomong crash/big koreksi. 
>> Kalo minus -50 ampe -90 itu biasa. Liat postingan ane sebelumnya bahwa ihsg 
>> bisa ke 2300 tgl 4 agustus, yg awalnya ane targetkan tgl 23 july, karena 
>> bomber mariot, jadi gagal target itu. Kenapa ane sampaikan disini target2 
>> itu? Karena ane hanya ingin berbagi, kalo salah itu biasa, kalo bener itu 
>> luarbiasa. Susahnya, ane kaga pinter TA, jadi ane kaga bisa kasi analise, 
>> ane aja cuma pake fibo taunya. ane lg mau ikut kursus TA. ada yg bersedia 
>> ngajarin TA buat ane? 
>> 
>> boyz wrote: 
>> >    
>> >   Iya lah ... setuju sama om Arto... Koreksi aja ... gak 
>> usah Crash ... Kondisi nggak (belum) mestakung untuk Crash... Kalau untuk 
>> koreksi, ya memang dalam setiap Bull pasti ada koreksi. Makanya ane bikin 
>> Topic : Correction Scenarios  Terjemahannya kira-kira : 
>> Skenario-skenario 
>> koreksi. Harap dibedakan antara Crash dgn Koreksi. Walaupun sama-2 turun 
>>  
>> tapi beda skala. 1. Soft Correction 2. Hard Correction 3. Crash Nggak semua 
>> momen harga saham dan indeks turun di sebut crash Kalau masih ada yg bingung 
>> dengan definisi tsb, googling aja. Biar gampangnya, ane kasih gambaran. Coba 
>> buka chart IHSG... 1. Soft Correction = Jan 2007 2. Hard Correction = Agust 
>> 2007 3. Crash  = Awal 2008 - Okt 2008 Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
>> yahoogroups. com, artomoro9  wrote: > > Pak oen.  justru 
>> info yg ane terima TIDAK seperti itu. Sampai hari ini AGENDA crash itu belum 
>> di rencanakan, belum masuk. Yg ada hanyalah pemilihan saham2 yg 
>>  memang secara fundamental memang bagus kedepan nya. Crash seperti 2008 
>> sangat kecil akan terjadi lg, karena yg punya barang sdh sale semua karena 
>> bangkrut akibat krisis keuangan di amerika sono. Mereka (hf /fm)sekarang 
>> bener2 memilih saham yg fundamentalnya bagus. Saham ayam bebek udah ga masuk 
>> daftar lg.  Koreksi biasalah terjadi tapi bukan crash boombang, trus amblek. 
>> Asia dan eropa masih oke kok. Harga Komodity naik/turunnya masih normal. 
>> Rupiah strong. Ada yg turun/naik itu biasa, sekarang idx sudah masuk zaman 
>> normal.. GAk perlu kuatir berlebihan, ada embah, Prof jt, iching, yg 
>> nongkrongin ob, pasti ada early warning kalo emang akan crash. Ga usah liat 
>> index nya, pilih aja saham yg oke punya. ptba  14k, kapan? Sebelum bulan 
>> puasa 2009.   bull or bear ? Ora ngurus. Sing penting oentoeng. Loh >  kok 
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Re: The BULLdozer - Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
BullCuk apaan tuh boss, ana kagak ngeh nih?

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:09:18 
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or HARD?


Kalo pak JT gelarnya Bullcuk aja gimana?

wkwkwkk..

Regards,
DE

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Re: The BULLdozer - Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Bullcuk apaan seh? Sumpe gua gak yau neh? 

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From: artomoro9 

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:16:20 
To: dean.earwic...@gmail.com
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: The BULLdozer - Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing  
or HARD?


Iye setuju. bullcuk. cakep tuh nama. JT THE BULLCUKS.

Dean Earwicker wrote: 
>    
>   Kalo pak JT gelarnya Bullcuk aja gimana? wkwkwkk.. Regards, 
> DE Pada 28 Juli 2009 21:55, JT™ < jsxtra...@yahoo. com > menulis: 
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Re: [ob] Cermati BKDP & SMRA !

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Kere. Anda BDnya ya ??.. Hehe.., Lanjutkan !

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:05:55 
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Just rumor: 
Harga saham BKDP berpotensi ke Rp125-150/saham.  Kabarnya, pereseoan tengah 
mengincar
proyek kawasan industr dan hunian dekat Jembatan Suramadu. Selain itu, 
perseroan akan
meluncurkan hotel dan pusat perbelanjaan.


Harga SMRA berpotensi ke Rp700/saham. Kabarnya, perseroan menjajaki penerbitan

obligasi guna membiayai proyek propertinya. Perseroan akan membangun apartemen 
dan hotel 
di Kelapa Gading serta mengembangkan proyek di Serpong.


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Re: [ob] Cermati BKDP & SMRA !

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Ngaku aje, ngga apa.., hehe.., slowly aja pir.., jgn kekencengan.., yg penting 
penumpang betah... hehe..

Btw, rmh ane pln mati neh.., ane kira TAL.., gak taunya udh ada pemberitahuan 
dari kemaren Hehehe...

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From: "datasahamku" 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:36:13 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Cermati BKDP & SMRA !


sumpeeh saya bukan pak! 
ups! BD teriak BD nih  hehehe...


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> -Original Message-
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> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:05:55 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] Cermati BKDP & SMRA !
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> 
> Just rumor: 
> Harga saham BKDP berpotensi ke Rp125-150/saham.  Kabarnya, pereseoan tengah 
> mengincar
> proyek kawasan industr dan hunian dekat Jembatan Suramadu. Selain itu, 
> perseroan akan
> meluncurkan hotel dan pusat perbelanjaan.
> 
> 
> Harga SMRA berpotensi ke Rp700/saham. Kabarnya, perseroan menjajaki penerbitan
> 
> obligasi guna membiayai proyek propertinya. Perseroan akan membangun 
> apartemen dan hotel 
> di Kelapa Gading serta mengembangkan proyek di Serpong.
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Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Berjuang mulu dari kemaren..., kapan kite nanggoknye nih Jendral ?? :D

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:00:58 
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Subject: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?


mari hajar kanan bumi 2300.

kita jadikan ini titik awal perjuangan .


hajar.!!!

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Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Close diatas 2275 will trigger up move.., BUT, tenaga yg dibutukan gede Pak.., 
itungan kasar saya diatas 1,5 jt lot..., buset dah...

Selain itu Bsk Ex dev, biasanya banyak yg kabur dan harga akan terkoreksi, tapi 
ane yakin sifatnya cuma sementara..., paling cakep kalo nih hari dibikin 
breakout.., kalau itu yg terjadi, besok turun ada support kuat di 2275-2300.., 
itungannya jadi pullback aja.., hehe

  
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:26:43 
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boss, offer 2275 skrg. kurang galak sih ngajaknya..coba di bego-begoin
dulu bdnya, biasanya berhasil.. heheh

masalahnya repo byk yang nyangkut di 23xx, secara TA, level 23xx udah
di coba 4x termasuk hari ini...

sebaiknya tunggu break dulu. Pak JT, plz comment.

Regards,
DE

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Re: [ob] SSE -5% !!! Alert!!!

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Cangcuter.. Get Ready !!  Yiiiha..

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di NUKE sama EL HA HA HA HA .
kapan nih BEI di NUKE HA HA HA HA 
dah gak tahan HA HA HA HA .


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Re: [ob] SSE -5% !!! Alert!!!

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Cangcuter.. Get Ready !!  Yiiiha..

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di NUKE sama EL HA HA HA HA .
kapan nih BEI di NUKE HA HA HA HA 
dah gak tahan HA HA HA HA .


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Re: [ob] P.Jt cangcut??

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
KOKANG !!

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:44:13 
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Re: [ob] P.Jt cangcut??

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik JT
Tunggu gebukan sekali lagi... !

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bos, kapan tembaknya? pedih nih mata... :)

2009/7/29 JT™ 

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Re: [ob] P.Jt cangcut??

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
IHSG 2200, Ok.., tunggu lower..., dan mental balik ke 2200 ...

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:57:23 
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Setuju... gebukan sekali lagi bisa sampai -2.5%?

 

Lebih cepat lebih baik!.

 

 

 

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Tunggu gebukan sekali lagi... !

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bos, kapan tembaknya? pedih nih mata... :)

2009/7/29 JTT 

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Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Ya ya ya..., now I got it boss..., mungkin kira-kira kalo betawi bilang, 
"kampret lo DE !!".  Hahahaha.. Canda juga boss... Hehe


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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:34:53 
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sori pa JT, bukan umpatan tapi pujian. Kalo bahasa betawi "anjrit,
jago banget" gitu kira-kira..jgn salah paham ya..

btw, saya engga ngaduin, kan pak Jend megang bumi dan indf. EL bilang
properti, jadi mestinya engga berantem dong, kan sektornya beda..

btw, sebelum hepi ngomong bangun rumah, saya bilang "kalo suku bunga
turun maka properti naik " tanya si boyz tuh kalo ga percaya.. jadi
guayangmestinyaitotyu.com ke hepi sama EL.. heheh.. Tapi ndak lah,
saya ndak suka "i tot yu" an, toh kalo ternyata meleset saya juga
engga minta maaf kan. Biasa aja.

Minyak jebluk euy. Pak Arto, BUMI besok kayanya aga berat neh. Mana
tadi sore ada yang quicksell lagi.. p Arto blm jualan kan?

Regards,
DE





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> Gue pegangin el aja. DE ini sukanya aduin org aja. Kite udah baikan, die 
> bilang td pas ngopi yg tgl 31 july kagak jadi. jadi die ngajakin BANGUN RUMAH 
> pake Semen.  Cuma neng EL ini kalah cepet ama non hepi. Kemaren ane ada 
> posting non hepi lagi bangun Rumah. He he he.  to prof jt: bullcuks artinya 
> kebo jancuk. (umpatan, tapi hanya buat temen deket) canda prof.




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Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Boss DE.., symbol nikel utk bloomberg or yahoo apa ya? Ane mau sedot data nikel 
nih..., advis pls. Tq.
 
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:36:41 
To: 
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iya tuh ngeres aja otaknya... hahaha OB kalo dipancing dikit langsung
jadi pada traktor = trader otak kotor.. heheh

Regards,
DE

2009/7/29 Elaine Sui 
>
>
> PERVERT!! LOLZ..
> Elaine
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:24 PM, JT  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Oh yeaaahh ??  Let me see your Cangcut then.., I bet it’s pink……, hehehe…, 
>> canda ya EL.., iye gue tau loreng kok….. whahaha…
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, nice posting El…., thank you.
>>




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Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Thanks Bro.., I lagi coba cari data mentah yg bisa di convert ke MS nih.., any 
idea dimana bisa dapet?

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:55:59 
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Nickel di bloomberg kyk nya LMNIDS03 Comdty ...
Di yahoo ga tau

Salam,


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> Boss DE.., symbol nikel utk bloomberg or yahoo apa ya? Ane mau sedot
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> -Original Message-
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:36:41
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>
>
> iya tuh ngeres aja otaknya... hahaha OB kalo dipancing dikit langsung
> jadi pada traktor = trader otak kotor.. heheh
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2009/7/29 Elaine Sui elainesu...@...
> >
> >
> > PERVERT!! LOLZ..
> > Elaine
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:24 PM, JT jsxtra...@... wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh yeaaahh ??  Let me see your Cangcut then.., I bet it's
pink……, hehehe…, canda ya EL.., iye gue tau loreng kok…..
whahaha…
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway, nice posting El…., thank you.
> >>
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Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Jaman Blackberry begini nongkrong di Alexis??.., Di Samecell ama bini gua 
Mampus dah Hehe
 
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:49:18 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09



Usul Prof, gimana kalau buat reuni untuk semua yang pernah ikut tranning, 
sekalian ngobroling Cangcut dan undang Pak DE sebagai pembicara terhormat.

Suggested Venue: Alexis

Supaya bisa langsung di praktekanhahaha.



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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:34:42 
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Ya ya ya..., now I got it boss..., mungkin kira-kira kalo betawi bilang, 
"kampret lo DE !!".  Hahahaha.. Canda juga boss... Hehe


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From: Dean Earwicker 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:34:53 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09


sori pa JT, bukan umpatan tapi pujian. Kalo bahasa betawi "anjrit,
jago banget" gitu kira-kira..jgn salah paham ya..

btw, saya engga ngaduin, kan pak Jend megang bumi dan indf. EL bilang
properti, jadi mestinya engga berantem dong, kan sektornya beda..

btw, sebelum hepi ngomong bangun rumah, saya bilang "kalo suku bunga
turun maka properti naik " tanya si boyz tuh kalo ga percaya.. jadi
guayangmestinyaitotyu.com ke hepi sama EL.. heheh.. Tapi ndak lah,
saya ndak suka "i tot yu" an, toh kalo ternyata meleset saya juga
engga minta maaf kan. Biasa aja.

Minyak jebluk euy. Pak Arto, BUMI besok kayanya aga berat neh. Mana
tadi sore ada yang quicksell lagi.. p Arto blm jualan kan?

Regards,
DE





2009/7/29 artomoro9 
>
> Gue pegangin el aja. DE ini sukanya aduin org aja. Kite udah baikan, die 
> bilang td pas ngopi yg tgl 31 july kagak jadi. jadi die ngajakin BANGUN RUMAH 
> pake Semen.  Cuma neng EL ini kalah cepet ama non hepi. Kemaren ane ada 
> posting non hepi lagi bangun Rumah. He he he.  to prof jt: bullcuks artinya 
> kebo jancuk. (umpatan, tapi hanya buat temen deket) canda prof.




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Re: Bls: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Haha.. Ente yg pengen ngomong ajeee, pake ngejorokin orang.. Hehe... cangcutnye 
loreng bo Macaaann... (Gaya emon...) Hehe

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--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Charles Atmaja 
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> Trus waktu masuk yang pas kapan ni EL?
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Pasti deh om DE & prof JT jawabnya :
Kalo changcut-nya udah dibuka...

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Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Sapa bilang? Samecell ngga pake jarak boss, selama dapet signal bisa ke'trek 
and samecell pake BIS, jd selama BB on, bisa ke detect.. 

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:13:13 
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Subject: Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09



Jangan pakai samecell bos, boros batere.  Lagian samecell hanya bisa radius 
yang dekat, lupa tepatnya berapa jauh.

Lagian kalau GPRS/EDGE/3G dimatiin ngak ngak bakalan kedeksihehehe.




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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:58:00 
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Jaman Blackberry begini nongkrong di Alexis??.., Di Samecell ama bini gua 
Mampus dah Hehe
 
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:49:18 
To: Milis OB
Subject: Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09



Usul Prof, gimana kalau buat reuni untuk semua yang pernah ikut tranning, 
sekalian ngobroling Cangcut dan undang Pak DE sebagai pembicara terhormat.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:34:42 
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Ya ya ya..., now I got it boss..., mungkin kira-kira kalo betawi bilang, 
"kampret lo DE !!".  Hahahaha.. Canda juga boss... Hehe


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From: Dean Earwicker 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:34:53 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Defensive and outperforming sectors for 2H09


sori pa JT, bukan umpatan tapi pujian. Kalo bahasa betawi "anjrit,
jago banget" gitu kira-kira..jgn salah paham ya..

btw, saya engga ngaduin, kan pak Jend megang bumi dan indf. EL bilang
properti, jadi mestinya engga berantem dong, kan sektornya beda..

btw, sebelum hepi ngomong bangun rumah, saya bilang "kalo suku bunga
turun maka properti naik " tanya si boyz tuh kalo ga percaya.. jadi
guayangmestinyaitotyu.com ke hepi sama EL.. heheh.. Tapi ndak lah,
saya ndak suka "i tot yu" an, toh kalo ternyata meleset saya juga
engga minta maaf kan. Biasa aja.

Minyak jebluk euy. Pak Arto, BUMI besok kayanya aga berat neh. Mana
tadi sore ada yang quicksell lagi.. p Arto blm jualan kan?

Regards,
DE





2009/7/29 artomoro9 
>
> Gue pegangin el aja. DE ini sukanya aduin org aja. Kite udah baikan, die 
> bilang td pas ngopi yg tgl 31 july kagak jadi. jadi die ngajakin BANGUN RUMAH 
> pake Semen.  Cuma neng EL ini kalah cepet ama non hepi. Kemaren ane ada 
> posting non hepi lagi bangun Rumah. He he he.  to prof jt: bullcuks artinya 
> kebo jancuk. (umpatan, tapi hanya buat temen deket) canda prof.




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Re: [ob] Re: "PEDAGANG" dan "TRADER" .. by anggun trader

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik JT
Pedangang yg kepasar bawa CASH namanya Kang Kredit Pak..., hehe

Dulu disini ada Pedagang Kentang, ada Kang Duren, kang Bakso Tahu..., hehe

Btw, View Dong Mr Oen...

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From: "Provokator Saham" 

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:46:11 
To: 
Subject: [ob] Re: "PEDAGANG" dan "TRADER"  .. by anggun trader


Kalau menurut saya;

Persamaan pedagang ama trader adlh sama2  berani ambil resiko dalam 
sebuah/setiap trasanksi yg mereka lakukan

Perbedaannya;
Seorang pedagang kalau pergi ke pasar HARUS bawa DAGANGAN.
Nggak kebayang kalau pedagang buah kagak bawa pisang, durian, dst...
Dlm kondisi tsb, emang masih layak disebut pedagang?
Lagi mo "kulakan" mengkali...

Seorang trader MESTINYA juga harus selalu pegang saham, supaya "titelnya" tetap 
sbg trader saham.

Masalahnya kalau lagi CASH masih aja ngaku2 jadi trader...toel nggak?
Hehehe


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> http://angguntrader.blogspot.com/Rabu, 2009 Juli 29"PEDAGANG" dan 
> "TRADER"Saat blog ini dibuat DOW minus 0,49%, kondisi IHSG sulit untuk rally, 
> mengingat IHSG dalam kondisi jenuh beli, kemarin Hangseng minus besar, ada 
> yang bilang karena China menurunkan harga minyak, ada yang bilang harga saham 
> di China udah kemahalan, yang jelas harga saham pertambangan kemarin naik 
> terlalu cepat, padahal minyak belum sampai ke 70 U$, harga minyak keburu 
> koreksi kembali.
> Sambil menanti timing yang tepat, saya mencoba menulis persamaan dan 
> perbedaan "Pedagang" dengan "Trader", karena naluri pedagang sangat 
> berpengaruh dalam trading.
> 
> PERBEDAAN :
> PEDAGANG/PENGUSAHA :
> 1. Harus mengetahui dan mengerti bidang usaha sebelumnya.
> 2. Harus beli lahan tanah atau bangunan (minimal sewa lahan/toko).
> 3. Harus beli mesin (untuk yang mendirikan pabrik).
> 4. Harus beli bahan baku.
> 5. Harus punya karyawan.
> 6. Harus mempunyai perijinan.
> 7. Harus mempunyai pembukuan buat perhitungan perpajakan.
> 8. Harus cari customer/Pelanggan.
> 9. Harus berani kasih hutang (Jaman sekarang susah cari pelanggan cash).
> 10. Berapa nilai penyusutan mesin, biaya karyawan, dll.
> 11. Kalau Perusahaan tersebut tidak maju, berapa kerugiannya yang mencakup 
> antara lain :
> a. Toko/Pabrik dijual laku berapa?
> b. Mesin mungkin hanya dihargai separo bahkan kurang.
> c. Berapa bahan baku yang belum dipergunakan? Apakah boleh dikembalikan 
> kepada distributor/penjualnya?
> d. Berapa pesanggon yang harus dibayar kepada karyawan.
> e. Berapa piutang yang tidak dapat tertagih? (Piutang lancar akan menjadi 
> macet ketika pelanggan tidak dipasok lagi oleh kita).
> f. Terakhir kita masih dikejar-kejar pajak, karena kewajiban pajak tetap 
> harus kita bereskan terlebih dahulu.
> 
> TRADER :
> 1. Sebagai Trader jelas harus mengerti cara trading yang baik.
> 2. Tidak perlu membeli lahan tanah, bangunan, mesin, karyawan, perijinan, 
> pembukuan, karyawan.
> 3. Tidak perlu mencari pelanggan, tidak ada saham yang dihutangkan. He3x
> 4. Tidak ada biaya penyusutan.
> 5. Kalau kita kaya dari keuntungan saham, tidak perlu pusing membayar pajak 
> lagi, karena sudah pajak sudah dipungut final oleh Sekuritas, kecuali kalau 
> kita dapat deviden (masih perlu diperhitungkan lagi di SPT PPh).
> 6. Kalau kita selalu menderita kerugian terus, kita batasi misal 20% dari 
> modal, uang 80% kembali, tanpa harus kerugian lahan, mesin, bayar pesangon, 
> dan tidak ada piutang, dan terakhir kita tidak akan dikejar-kejar oleh Pajak.
> 
> Oleh karena itu kalau kita menempatkan diri sebagai “TRADER�, alangkah 
> bijaksananya kalau kita harus menyadari bahwa yang kita lakoni adalah 
> berurusan dengan uang, maka :
> 1. Sebelum kita menguasai betul ilmunya, pergunakan sebagian kecil uang anda 
> tersebut untuk trading (belajar trading), misal kita punyai uang 100 juta, 
> trading dulu aja 5jt s/d 10 jt.
> 2. Sekalipun kita telah menguasai ilmu FA (Fundamental analis) dan TA 
> (Tehnikal Analis), resiko kerugian selalu ada, tidak mungkin bisa 100% untung 
> terus, oleh karena itu selalu siapkan trading plan anda, sebelum masuk 
> membeli, berapa target jual saham anda? dan apabila market berbalik arah, 
> diharga berapa anda harus Cut Loss.
> 3. Dalam menggunakan uang anda, berapakah uang anda yang anda merasa nyaman 
> dibelikan saham tersebut? Ini sangat penting karena ketika beli 10 lot hati 
> bisa tenang, begitu beli 1000lot walaupun bisa cuan, hati sudah tidak tenang 
> lagi. Ha3x, begitu hati tidak nyaman, maka begitu cepat kita cut loss, 
> padahal still profit. oleh karena itu factor psikis yang lebih banyak 
> berpengaruh akan kerugian trader dibandingkan FA dan TA.
> 4. Tentukan time frame anda, apakah anda pemain daily trader, swing trader, 
> dlsb.
> 5. Jangan terlalu banyak acak pilih saham, kalau kita ambil beberapa saham 
> berfundamental bagus, seperti Astra grup, Perbankan BBCA, BBRI, BMR

Re: [ob] Empty zone BUMI

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik JT
W..., tau anda ikut beli di 1850, ane mahalin ongkosnya Hehe

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:44:13 
To: 
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Sip prof, gue saksi tuh... Makanya ikut kursus lagi yg tgl 1 agust ini he 
he Sayang dah bayar, kalo gak gue minta diskon nih ama prof dah promosi... 
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From: "JT" 

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:37:50 
To: 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Empty zone BUMI


Hehe lu bukan bantu gue promosi biar masuk Koran malah mau ngejorokin.,
hahaha.,  nyang ikut kursus gua terakhir dah gua suruh beli BUMI di 1850,
tanya noh ., kalo ngga beli mah salah sendiri, seharian mulut gua bebusa
ngomongin BUMI., hehe

 

Volume udah 1,44 Jt Dan.., ane minta extra deh kalo bole sampe 1,8 jt lot. J

 

JT

 

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waduh boss, jangan muluk muluk dulu..belum tentu semua lancar. berdoa aja,
sapa tau YME kasi kita kemudahan.

santai aja bozz, yang penting prof JT dah kasih sinyal katanya aman
terkendali, kalo ada gangguan di jalan, ente semua kagak usah ikutan kursus
JT lagi.





--- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, D0N Qicot  menulis:


Dari: D0N Qicot 
Judul: [ob] Empty zone BUMI
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 30 Juli, 2009, 11:49 AM

  


Ada empty zone BUMI dari 2150 ke 3150

bung Arto mau geber langsung ke 3150...

ATAU...

retreat dulu ke 2150, setelah itu baru hajar ke 3150...?

 

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Re: Bls: to hans Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik JT
Hahaha..., lu emang BULLDOZER !!

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:06:03 
To: 
Subject: Bls: to hans Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?




itoldu



--- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, artomoro9  menulis:

Dari: artomoro9 
Judul: to hans Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 30 Juli, 2009, 2:22 PM






 





  

kalo pendapat ane sih biasanya sama super bozz, resist 2400  itu di jebolin 
minimal pernah di buat bid.


selanjutnya ikuti aja pake iching... hehehehe. iching emang moiii...


regards,

A9


DISCLAIMER ON

--- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, Hans Kwee  menulis:

Dari: Hans Kwee 
Judul: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga
 berani..?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Kamis, 30 Juli, 2009, 11:57 AM






 


  Jendral per ta sy
bumi baru tembus resistance 2300 - 2325.
bila bisa di close diatas itu dgn dukungan volume yang oke seperti yang prof jt 
katakan... maka lanjutkan.
cuman sy ilang barag nih jendral abis ambil deviden... kita antri aja

ternyata bd ngauk...

kita main atas aja kalau lanjut kita kejar

hebat hajar kanan jendral art... bisa bawa bumi ke resistance 2400

thx
Hans


2009/7/30 artomoro9 













 





  


boss Hans, kaga kebalik neh, kok tanya kite? masa boss hans tanya ke kite sih. 

pake ilmu TA dong, TA nya bilang apa..?


canda bozz. he he he
 


--- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, Hans Kwee  menulis:

Dari: Hans Kwee 

Judul: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Kamis, 30 Juli, 2009, 11:37 AM







 


  Bumi resistance baru 2400
hajar kanan lagi gak...

thx
Hans


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  I Believe U Jend.

HAJAR KANAN..



On 30/07/2009, artomoro9  wrote:

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> entar kaya kemaren lagi ane di ledekin.

>

> deal or no deal ane yakin ke 3000.

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER ON

>

> --- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, Jacob Oen  menulis:

>

> Dari: Jacob Oen 

> Judul: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> Tanggal: Kamis, 30 Juli, 2009, 10:49 AM

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> What about our DEAL? Is it still ON?

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>

>  deal...!

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>  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Jacob Oen"  wrote:

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>  > Jend. Arto,

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>  > ENTE bikin offer di 2325 dulu baru ane bantu hajar kanan, OK?

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>  > mari hajar kanan bumi 2300.

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Re: [ob] Attention Please

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik JT
Alhamdulilah.., berkat doa ente juga.. Hehe...

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From: Rei 

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:06:11 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Attention Please


Wah, pak JT untung buesss nih hari ini:D

2009/7/30 JT 

>
>
>  All,
>
>
>
> Buat yang sdh cuan gede dari BUMI atau saham-saham lainnya beberapa hari
> ini, dan merasa terbantu oleh info-info dan komando-komando di OB….,  yuk
> kita DONASI buat OB…., terserah berapa aja serela-nya…,  please…. Please…,
> buat kite-kite juga….. OK?
>
>
>
> You know how to do it kan?.., just transfer via BCA ke rekening OB….., I’ll
> do it myself….., Thank you guys
>
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> Regards,
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> JT
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Re: Bls: [ob] Happy Cuan All !!

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik JT
Wakakak... Itu lucu tuh Dalem !, hahaha

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From: Dean Earwicker 

Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:50:26 
To: 
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Happy Cuan All !!


Makanya beli bumi hwoy, jgn koar doang... hahaha

Regards,
DE

Pada 31 Juli 2009 16:44, artomoro9  menulis:

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> gue kok belum cuan yaaa...?
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> pada cuan apa sih..?
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> --- Pada *Jum, 31/7/09, JT * menulis:
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> Dari: JT 
> Judul: [ob] Happy Cuan All !!
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 31 Juli, 2009, 4:14 PM
>
>
>
>  What a week !! Jangan lupa disyukuri.., buat yg belum kebagian, jangan
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Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Hehe.., kalo ane jadi BD..., OB dijual 8 M gua tubruk.., syaratnya si Mbah gak 
boleh buka milis lagi atau forum apapun..., abis gitu OB ane tutup.., biar ngga 
ada yg nyopetin duit ane tiap hari..., banyangin, kalo sehari aje duit ane 
dicopet 1 M.., apa ngga 'murah' tuh harga OB 8 M...n kekekeke...

Kesimpulan, OB 8 M kemurahanan Mbah... Hehehe

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:29:07 
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emang apa untungnya beli ob ini? iklan nga ada, banner nga ada-income dari 
mana? kalo dibikin forum dulu kayak kaskus.us mungkin menguntungkan.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kucing_liar1"  wrote:
>
> 
> I SMELL THAT this gonna be A REALLY SERIOUS TALK / DEAL...
> 
> weleh welehh . hahahahahhaa...
> 
> si Kucing deMeN seNYum..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
> wrote:
> >
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> > investor... hehehe...
> > 
> > Ajuin deh proposal nya kalo minat beli, embah juga udah
> > pengen pensiun, udah 9 tahun ngurus OB dan hampir engga pernah
> > libur ...
> > 
> > Penawaran minimal diatas 10 M... minat ?... hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > iya nih pertanyaan saya belum ada yang jawab.
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Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Wow.., ane gak nyangka dimasukin Club Sejati sama si Mbah..., thank you Mbah, 
itu bentuk appresiasi yg luar biasa buat ane yg cuma Petok ehh Ayam Kampung..., 
hehe..., thank you Sir ! 


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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:22:44 
To: 
Subject: Club SEJATI[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..


Embah cerita backgroundnya Club SEJATI:

Milis OB sudah berjalan selama 9 tahun, dimilis OB itu bisa
dibilang banyak orang PANDAI. Jadi banyak sekali senior 
dimilis OB.

Cuman KENDALAnya adalah:
- Semakin SENIOR seseorang dibidang persahaman semakin
  TAKUT dia bikin prediksi. 
- Ini berbeda dengan ahli hukum, ahli ekonomi atau
  ahli akuntansi. Pada bidang2 ini, seseorang yg bertambah
  ahli akan bertambah berani dia ngomong.
- Sebenarnya ini tidak aneh, karena prediksi saham itu
  memang COMPLEX dan OUTCOME/hasil yg keluar bersifat
  PROBABILISTIC. Say semua indicator menunjukan BUMI akan
  naik (say TA, FA, BA, I Ching dll), jadi 80% seharusnya
  BUMI akan naik. Seorang expert saham yg berani akan
  meramalkan BUMI naik hari ini, tapi apa lacur ternyata
  BUMI malah turun. 
- Terlihat PADA seorang analis saham ada RISKAT (Resiko
  Melekat) yg bisa membuat seseorang expert nampak lebih
  bodo dari monyet yg menebak hari ini BUMI turun.

Itulah ide yg menjadi dasar CLUB SEJATI sebuah Club Virtual
yg sengaja embah buat untuk MENDORONG expert saham BERANI
mengemukakan pendapatnya tanpa pake KODE KODE seperti
PETOK2 dll... 

Jadi ada dua unsur yg harus dipenuhi untuk masuk kedalam
Club sejati yaitu:
1. EXPERTISE (TA, FA, I Ching, paranormal, Hokimologi,
   ALGOL expert dll)
2. KEBERANIAN untuk menyampaikan pendapatnya.

Unsur ketepatan prediksi, embah kurangi bobotnya karena
Club Sejati ini lebih mengarah untuk membuat member OB
menjadi lebih BERANI menyatakan PROFESIONAL OPINIONnya.

Embah sudah mengidentifikasi orang2 dibawah ini yg LAYAK
masuk Club Sejati:
- Jsxtrader
- Billy
- Elaine
- Pak Yuga (tapi bukan member OB), mudah mudahan mau masuk.
- Edwin tapi kurang banyak prediksi beraninya
- Jack Cowok, tapi jarang posting
- Tbumi , expertise ada, keberanian ada tapi accuracynya kurang.
- Wimanto, embah masih perhatikan
- Artomoro, terakhir sudah mulai berani
- Irwan Ariston, ex suhu embah (BUMI 3500 atau botak)

Mungkin ada lagi member yg lain yg sudah pantas masuk
sini tapi karena kesalahan embah belum dimasukan daftar.

Jadi kalo ada yg mau mencalonkan diri atau mencalon member
lain, kirimkan aja ke floor, biar member yg menilai.


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> Klub sejati siapa aja si mbah?
> 
> Regards,
> DE
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> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rudy  wrote:
> >>
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Re: Bls: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Jadi jgn bilang untungnya beli OB apa..., hehe.., untungnye ngga digerecokin 
and dicopetin tiap hari..., jangan lupa, member OB memang 'cuma' 8000, tapi 
dari 8000 member tsb, info menyebar lagi kemana-mana.. 

Kalo Mbah Mau Jual.., boleh lah jual 20 M, trus pensiun aja nikmatin hidup..., 
hehehe 


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From: Ksatria Timur Laut 

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:27:43 
To: 
Subject: Bls: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


Embah kan ngak bilang itu dalam rupiah ... USD kaleee hehehe




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Terkirim: Senin, 3 Agustus, 2009 18:18:37
Judul: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

Hehe.., kalo ane jadi BD..., OB dijual 8 M gua tubruk.., syaratnya si Mbah gak 
boleh buka milis lagi atau forum apapun..., abis gitu OB ane tutup.., biar ngga 
ada yg nyopetin duit ane tiap hari..., banyangin, kalo sehari aje duit ane 
dicopet 1 M.., apa ngga 'murah' tuh harga OB 8 M...n kekekeke...

Kesimpulan, OB 8 M kemurahanan Mbah... Hehehe

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From: "ichingprediction" 

Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:29:07 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


emang apa untungnya beli ob ini? iklan nga ada, banner nga ada-income dari 
mana? kalo dibikin forum dulu kayak kaskus.us mungkin menguntungkan.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kucing_liar1"  wrote:
>
> 
> I SMELL THAT this gonna be A REALLY SERIOUS TALK / DEAL...
> 
> weleh welehh . hahahahahhaa...
> 
> si Kucing deMeN seNYum..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Ternyata pak Arto yg ngakunya maen saham 20 lot mau jadi
> > investor... hehehe...
> > 
> > Ajuin deh proposal nya kalo minat beli, embah juga udah
> > pengen pensiun, udah 9 tahun ngurus OB dan hampir engga pernah
> > libur ...
> > 
> > Penawaran minimal diatas 10 M... minat ?... hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > iya nih pertanyaan saya belum ada yang jawab.
> > > 
> > > mungkin embah bisa bantu saya.
> > > 
> > > trims.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A9
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Pada Sen, 3/8/09, Mr. Boen  menulis:
> > > 
> > > Dari: Mr. Boen 
> > > Judul: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com
> > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Tanggal: Senin, 3 Agustus, 2009, 6:47 AM
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> > > dari owner nya karena melihat perkembangan obrolan 
> > > 
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> > > sesudah itu ama Jend Arto mau di listing .. after that di goreng yang 
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Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
1 juta setaun mah murah.., ada tuh yg charge 250 sebulan... Hehehe

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From: "datasahamku" 

Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:42:58 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


klo milis OB jadi dijual sm Embah, hmmmM takut juga nih, ntar kena membership 
klo ingin tetap di OB...klo biaya membership 1 juta/orang/tahun X 8 rb members 
= 8 Bio, setahun dah BEP tuh Jendral :)

Embah mesti tanya dulu sm member OB apakah setuju dengan penjualan milis 
OB..neng EL mgkn berani nawar lebih tinggi Mbah :)

DEAL OR No DEAL?




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
wrote:
>
> Pantes pak Arto bisa goreng BUMI, ternyata pak Arto pake
> istilah lotnya bukan 500 lembar tapi 500 karung...
> 
> Buat pak Arto , embah kasih discount 20%, 8 M cukup dan
> embah turunin semua ilmu bandarmologinya buat Pak Arto..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Ternyata pak Arto yg ngakunya maen saham 20 lot mau jadi
> > investor... hehehe...
> > 
> > Ajuin deh proposal nya kalo minat beli, embah juga udah
> > pengen pensiun, udah 9 tahun ngurus OB dan hampir engga pernah
> > libur ...
> > 
> > Penawaran minimal diatas 10 M... minat ?... hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > iya nih pertanyaan saya belum ada yang jawab.
> > > 
> > > mungkin embah bisa bantu saya.
> > > 
> > > trims.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A9
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Pada Sen, 3/8/09, Mr. Boen  menulis:
> > > 
> > > Dari: Mr. Boen 
> > > Judul: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com
> > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Tanggal: Senin, 3 Agustus, 2009, 6:47 AM
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> > >   Dear noknik,
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> > > gak usah bingung, pertanyaan Jendral Arto jelas pengen tahu owner dari 
> > > obrolan bandar groups.
> > > my prediction, Jend Arto ada rencana membeli saham milis obrolan bandar 
> > > dari owner nya karena melihat perkembangan obrolan 
> > > 
> > > bandar cukup bagus :)
> > > sesudah itu ama Jend Arto mau di listing .. after that di goreng yang 
> > > maknyusss .
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Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Mungkin..., kayaknya Jend Art lagi diutus si Bozz, buat nawar. Hehe 

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:47:39 
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Emangnya bener mau dijual? 
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From: "JT™" jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:46:51 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


1 juta setaun mah murah.., ada tuh yg charge 250 sebulan... Hehehe

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The Law 
of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: "datasahamku" 

Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:42:58 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


klo milis OB jadi dijual sm Embah, hmmmM takut juga nih, ntar kena membership 
klo ingin tetap di OB...klo biaya membership 1 juta/orang/tahun X 8 rb members 
= 8 Bio, setahun dah BEP tuh Jendral :)

Embah mesti tanya dulu sm member OB apakah setuju dengan penjualan milis 
OB..neng EL mgkn berani nawar lebih tinggi Mbah :)

DEAL OR No DEAL?




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
wrote:
>
> Pantes pak Arto bisa goreng BUMI, ternyata pak Arto pake
> istilah lotnya bukan 500 lembar tapi 500 karung...
> 
> Buat pak Arto , embah kasih discount 20%, 8 M cukup dan
> embah turunin semua ilmu bandarmologinya buat Pak Arto..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Ternyata pak Arto yg ngakunya maen saham 20 lot mau jadi
> > investor... hehehe...
> > 
> > Ajuin deh proposal nya kalo minat beli, embah juga udah
> > pengen pensiun, udah 9 tahun ngurus OB dan hampir engga pernah
> > libur ...
> > 
> > Penawaran minimal diatas 10 M... minat ?... hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > iya nih pertanyaan saya belum ada yang jawab.
> > > 
> > > mungkin embah bisa bantu saya.
> > > 
> > > trims.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A9
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Pada Sen, 3/8/09, Mr. Boen  menulis:
> > > 
> > > Dari: Mr. Boen 
> > > Judul: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com
> > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Tanggal: Senin, 3 Agustus, 2009, 6:47 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Dear noknik,
> > > 
> > > gak usah bingung, pertanyaan Jendral Arto jelas pengen tahu owner dari 
> > > obrolan bandar groups.
> > > my prediction, Jend Arto ada rencana membeli saham milis obrolan bandar 
> > > dari owner nya karena melihat perkembangan obrolan 
> > > 
> > > bandar cukup bagus :)
> > > sesudah itu ama Jend Arto mau di listing .. after that di goreng yang 
> > > maknyusss .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2009/8/3 noknik 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   jendral maksudnya apa ya pertanyaan ini?.. bingun
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2009/8/2 artomoro9 
> > > 
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Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik JT
Hehehe... Itu Bukan ane, kemaren juga di kelas ane ada bbrp orang yg mikir 
begitu dan udh jadi member.., ngga apa ikut aja.., 250 rb/bln dapet info mah 
murah banget...

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-Original Message-
From: Ferry 

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:50:14 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


Lho itu bukan Prof punya ya??

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of JT™
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:47 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

1 juta setaun mah murah.., ada tuh yg charge 250 sebulan... Hehehe

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“The only fundamental factor that really counts in the stock market is The
Law of Supply and Demand”

-Original Message-
From: "datasahamku" 

Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:42:58 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com


klo milis OB jadi dijual sm Embah, hmmmM takut juga nih, ntar kena
membership klo ingin tetap di OB...klo biaya membership 1 juta/orang/tahun X
8 rb members = 8 Bio, setahun dah BEP tuh Jendral :)

Embah mesti tanya dulu sm member OB apakah setuju dengan penjualan milis
OB..neng EL mgkn berani nawar lebih tinggi Mbah :)

DEAL OR No DEAL?




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
wrote:
>
> Pantes pak Arto bisa goreng BUMI, ternyata pak Arto pake
> istilah lotnya bukan 500 lembar tapi 500 karung...
> 
> Buat pak Arto , embah kasih discount 20%, 8 M cukup dan
> embah turunin semua ilmu bandarmologinya buat Pak Arto..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
wrote:
> >
> > Ternyata pak Arto yg ngakunya maen saham 20 lot mau jadi
> > investor... hehehe...
> > 
> > Ajuin deh proposal nya kalo minat beli, embah juga udah
> > pengen pensiun, udah 9 tahun ngurus OB dan hampir engga pernah
> > libur ...
> > 
> > Penawaran minimal diatas 10 M... minat ?... hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > iya nih pertanyaan saya belum ada yang jawab.
> > > 
> > > mungkin embah bisa bantu saya.
> > > 
> > > trims.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A9
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Pada Sen, 3/8/09, Mr. Boen  menulis:
> > > 
> > > Dari: Mr. Boen 
> > > Judul: Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com
> > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Tanggal: Senin, 3 Agustus, 2009, 6:47 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Dear noknik,
> > > 
> > > gak usah bingung, pertanyaan Jendral Arto jelas pengen tahu owner dari
obrolan bandar groups.
> > > my prediction, Jend Arto ada rencana membeli saham milis obrolan
bandar dari owner nya karena melihat perkembangan obrolan 
> > > 
> > > bandar cukup bagus :)
> > > sesudah itu ama Jend Arto mau di listing .. after that di goreng yang
maknyusss .
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2009/8/3 noknik 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
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> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   jendral maksudnya apa ya pertanyaan ini?.. bingun
> > > 
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> > > 2009/8/2 artomoro9 
> > > 
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Re: [ob] BNBR - Beautiful

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik JT
Promise EL, Promise.., I'll give Mbah 10 lots. 

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From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:04:57 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Beautiful


*wow.. thank you. [?] Remember, 5 lots for Embah. Promise?

Elaine**
*
2009/8/4 JT 

>
>
>  Close 117…, Beautiful …, Just Beautiful…. ! Alhamdulilah….
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *mhimaw...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* 04 Agustus 2009 15:56
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready
>
>
>
>
>
> Pak JT, knp gak tunggu pullback dulu pak untuk avg-up ?
>
> Tks
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> *From*: "jsxtrader"
> *Date*: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:54:26 -
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready
>
>
>
> ane udh tubruk 115..., ave up, gak tahan nunggu closing.., heheh...,
> bungku
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> Dean Earwicker  wrote:
> >
> > Kata robotnya: "liat entar.."
> >
> > heheh linknya ada, tapi blm di publish...
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/8/4 JT :
> > > Kere., coba tanyain si robot boss..., boleh ave up at close
> ngga
> > > nih...??
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: 
> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:
> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > > On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
> > > Sent: 04 Agustus 2009 15:38
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready
> > >
> > > BNBR juga kecapture sama bot gw. Kalo ternyata nyangkut berarti mesti
> tapa
> > > lagi... hihih
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > > Pada 4 Agustus 2009 15:29, T Halim menulis:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Naik angkot merah 107 (non AC) pulang pake angkot ijo 110 (full AC)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks prof JT..
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Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik JT
Nanti ya kite bahas..., ane mau ngupi2 dulu nih..., hehehe... Happy cuan..


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-Original Message-
From: Steven Tan 

Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:05:05 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready


Any special reason pak kenapa nunggu 115 baru ave up? Kenapa nggak waktu
pullback ke 112 aja? Just curious gimana taktik perangnya pak JT.
Saya sih cuma jadi penonton doang, yang penting udah tembus 110 udah lega.
Nggak bisa ave up lagi, pelor dah abis, udah ditembak dari bawah soale... he
he





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>
>
> ane udh tubruk 115..., ave up, gak tahan nunggu closing.., heheh...,
> bungku
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> Dean Earwicker  wrote:
> >
> > Kata robotnya: "liat entar.."
> >
> > heheh linknya ada, tapi blm di publish...
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/8/4 JT :
> > > Kere., coba tanyain si robot boss..., boleh ave up at close
> ngga
> > > nih...??
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: 
> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:
> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > > On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
> > > Sent: 04 Agustus 2009 15:38
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready
> > >
> > > BNBR juga kecapture sama bot gw. Kalo ternyata nyangkut berarti mesti
> tapa
> > > lagi... hihih
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > > Pada 4 Agustus 2009 15:29, T Halim menulis:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Naik angkot merah 107 (non AC) pulang pake angkot ijo 110 (full AC)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks prof JT..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali
> > > diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date:
> 08/03/09
> > > 17:56:00
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
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>
>  
>



Re: [ob] BNBR - Beautiful=>prof jt trader sejati.

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik JT
Haha.., ngga lah boss, biasa aja, yg hebat bandarnya BNBR tuh, gocekannya 
maut, kalo kite pan cuma tukang bonceng doang.., tadi ane kebetulan liat BD 
udh 'ngajakin' naik, ya kite tinggal lumpat aje.., hehe.., sekarang tinggal 
nunggu diusirnya..., hehehe

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From: artomoro9 

Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 03:02:27 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] BNBR - Beautiful=>prof jt trader sejati.




selamet ya prof .

anda layak dapat bintang lima berlian

bener bener trader sejati.

ane iseng aja tadi godain prof.

gutlak. 

ti ati di jalan semoga sampai tujuan.


tapi ane yakin tadi ada yang deg degan kalo beneran balik lagi ke bawah. ha ha 
ha ha.



btw : anda hubat...!!





--- Pada Sel, 4/8/09, JT  menulis:

Dari: JT 
Judul: RE: [ob] BNBR - Beautiful
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Selasa, 4 Agustus, 2009, 4:01 PM






 





  







Close 117…, Beautiful …, Just Beautiful…. ! Alhamdulilah…. 

   

JT 

   





From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On
Behalf Of mhimaw...@gmail. com

Sent: 04 Agustus 2009 15:56

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready 





   





Pak JT, knp gak tunggu pullback dulu pak untuk avg-up ?



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From: "jsxtrader" 

Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:54:26 -

To: 

Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready 

   



ane udh tubruk 115..., ave up, gak tahan nunggu
closing.., heheh..., bungku.. ..



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
Dean Earwicker  wrote:

>

> Kata robotnya: "liat entar.."

> 

> heheh linknya ada, tapi blm di publish...

> 

> 

> 

> 2009/8/4 JT :

> > Kere ., coba tanyain si robot boss..., boleh ave up at close
ngga

> > nih...??

> >

> > -Original Message-

> > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:

> obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]

> > On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker

> > Sent: 04 Agustus 2009 15:38

> > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> > Subject: Re: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready

> >

> > BNBR juga kecapture sama bot gw. Kalo ternyata nyangkut berarti mesti
tapa

> > lagi... hihih

> >

> > Regards,

> > DE

> >

> > Pada 4 Agustus 2009 15:29, T Halim menulis:

> >>

> >>

> >> Naik angkot merah 107 (non AC) pulang pake angkot ijo 110 (full
AC)

> >>

> >> Thanks prof JT..

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >  - - --

> >

> > + +

> > + + + + +

> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali

> > diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.

> > + + + + +

> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date:
08/03/09

> > 17:56:00

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >  - - --

> >

> > + +

> > + + + + +

> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus

> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.

> > + + + + +

> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> 









 



 



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found in this incoming message.

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Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.42/2279 - Release Date: 08/03/09
17:56:00 







 

  




 

















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