Re: [ob] We will have a B7 party tomorrow with Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*Hi OB, hi Embah. How's everything? Better late than never, Merry xmas and
Happy new year 2010. Wish all of us a happy and profitable year... ^_^*
*
*
*Ok, now what
*
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Nindya G  wrote:

>
>
>
> Mbah sayang,
>
> Ini hope atau ada hitungan TA pakai EW atau Buaya atau lainnya? Nin ngarep
> koreksi ke kisaran 2575 - 2725. Hitungan Nin nnt malam Nin share dg Mbah,
> japri aja ya Mbah?
>
> Salam,
>
> ***no wounds you cannot heal when you have faith, hope, compassion and
> commitment***
> --
> *From: * "jsx_consultant" 
> *Date: *Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:54:58 -
> *To: *
> *Subject: *[ob] We will have a B7 party tomorrow with Elaine
>
>
>
> We will have a B7 party tomorrow
>
> Elaine is back to OB...
>
> BNBR and B7 besok naek dah
>
>   
>

Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....

[It's Elaine!]

*Someone did make money in the last 3 months, through right issue. How about
you, guys?*
*
*
*Elaine**
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:33 PM, It's Elaine!  wrote:

> *The plan is to make money without money. Ah, nevermind. Just trade what
> you believe lah.. [?]*
>
> 2009/10/22 
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ms, bearish or bullish plan?
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
>> Teruuusss...!
>> --
>> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
>> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:10:47 +0700
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET
>>
>>
>>
>> *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 wrote:
>>
>>> ini keterlaluan...
>>> harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali...
>>> it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate
>>> HAJAR
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET 
>>> >
>>> > INI TAL BANGET 
>>> >
>>> > SERBU 
>>> >
>>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat..
>>> > >
>>> > > 2009/10/22 tora 
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Mbah gimana nih...
>>> > > >
>>> > > > your command, please
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> + +
>>> + + + + +
>>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>> + + + + +
>>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>
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[ob] Fwd: ***HI MBAH! WINDOWDRESSING***

[It's Elaine!]

*Hi all,

Just want to share that below was my love letter to Embah, sent about a
month a go when IDX was 2400. Currently my target is only 25% until Jan-Feb
(balanced-diversified), which translates to 30xx level, so help us God.
About the dollar shock, check your chart, you will know what I mean.

The rally may be late, but it's better late than never. Laggards would be
Bakrie stocks, property and metal miners (I believe they're technically
confirmed, or whatever, JT should be able to help you). Esp on prop/constr
don't sell until 100% gain at least. Some of them are grossly underpriced.
FA enthusiasts should be able to help you.

For 2010, you can read the letter below. That's all I can say at this
moment. Anyway, when I was away, I learned a bit about TA, and I'd say it's
amazing, really. Should've done a long time ago.

Fifi, 

 he's mine. [?] lolz.. [?]

Elaine*

-- Forwarded message --
From: It's Elaine! 
Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Subject: ***HI MBAH! WINDOWDRESSING***
To: jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id


*Just want to share that this December to Jan 10, Asia Pacific is expected
to have two month straight window dressing, around 10-25% average upside.
Though the general market will be affected, laggards will play major role so
be prepared. Also expect to see good news (even ridiculous ones) to flavor
the year end rally.

US Dollar will stay low.. or lower.. for some time. Consider stock markets
reversals when public thinks that USD is "too" low and fears that Chinese
Government will stop buying US treasury that will lead to debt crisis and
will spark hyperinflation (I call it the dollar shock), so focus on your
currency. Anything can happen dependending on your central bank action. On
the longer view, 2010 is quite volatile and sideway-ish since many
corporations poses higher default risk. What happened in Dubai was only a
start.

We're in a process of deflating and deleveraging economy. But for now, just
be quiet and enjoy the show. ^_^

Elaine*
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Re: [ob] We will have a B7 party tomorrow with Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*Would you mind to share your stock picks? I'd love to see it.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Nindya G  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Luar biasa, Mbah. Selamat atas pesta penyambutan buat Elaine. Welcome back,
> EL. Looking forward to having you with OB family again!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nin
> http://club9saham.blogspot.com/
> facebook: Nindya Gracia
>
>
>
> ***no wounds you cannot heal when you have faith, hope, compassion and
> commitment***
> --
> *From: * "jsx_consultant" 
> *Date: *Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:05:29 -
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] We will have a B7 party tomorrow with Elaine
>
>
>
> Score B7 menyambut kedatangan Elaine:
>
> - ELTY +10,8%
> - BNBR +5,37*
> - DEWA +2,25%
> - ENRG +2%
> - UNSP +0
> - BTEL -1,25%
>
> Hasilnya engga bisa bisa dibilang bagus tapi lumayanlah
> buat menyambut kedatangan Elaine...
>
> Welcome Back Elaine...
>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] To Mbah: Nawar BUMI 2725

[It's Elaine!]

[?][?]

2010/1/13 Nindya G 

>
>
>
> Mbah Sayang,
>
> Hari Jum'at kemarin Nin tawar Bumi di 2725. Hari ini sudah dapet, ya Mbah?
> Monggo kalau mau ditarik, Mbah. Nin nurut deh.
>
>
>
> Nin
>
> http://club9saham.blogspot.com/
>
> facebook: Nindya Gracia
>
>
>
> == only with the heart one can see clearly ==
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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[ob] ask: how abt selling indonesia

[It's Elaine!]

are imported stuff cheaper there or still same ..? im looking fwd on
the effect on fta w china clould be awesome for shopper..anyway if you
want to survive the comptetition you must sell indonesia, in a good
way, like arts, culture, resources, etc etc i mean they the westerns
and easterns like japs can sell sell hot dog, pizza, fettucini, sushi,
even hairstyle, music, movies, why cant you..

the key is you must be able to 'create value'. wht do you think, well
isntead of selling raw materils why not try to prod finished goods

EL

*mind the typo imtyping with one hand

Re: Bls: [ob] T R U B

[It's Elaine!]

*moshi moshi!!!* [?]

2010/1/14 kobayashi mitsukuni 

> TRUB TP 142 Done...sayonara...!
>
>  --
> *Dari:* JT 
> *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
> *Terkirim:* Kam, 14 Januari, 2010 10:07:19
> *Judul:* [ob] T R U B
>
>
>
>  Trub ada momentum tuw…, ane sih gak main, tapi ini cukup menarik, lagi
> coba matahin down trend……, examine your own chart closely !!
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> [image: trub.png]
>
> --
> Coba Yahoo! Mail baru yang LEBIH CEPAT. Rasakan bedanya sekarang!
> 
>
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Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents, or
should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
*

   - *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is the
   biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their purchasing
   power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more expensive), less
   workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.

   *
   - *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
   definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
   prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
   definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising prices
   are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in
   the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
   experience rising prices.

   *
   - *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the
   biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have
   excess supply from last year contract.

   *
   - *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since
   China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. Basically
   they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so
   CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi
   (lolz)

   *
   - *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the United
   States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war and
   social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I kinda
   agree with this guy. People's States of China..

   *
   - *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money) for
   international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank notes
   (paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter
   of a millisecond.

   *
   - *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe
   for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say
   Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen).

   *
   - *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural
   gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.

   *
   - *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
   job.

   *
   - *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to
   have children because of high unemployment.

   *
   - *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
   betting in Asia ex Japan.
   *

*Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to
discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most of
you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your opinion
too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is only a
lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!

There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
***
2009/10/4 yokorusi 

> http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang-raksasa.html
>
>
> Bulan February 2009 yang lalu di dalam satu tulisan yang berjudul Worst
> Than Nothing atau Better Than Nothing? - saya sedikit mengulas mengenai
> esensi krisis keuangan yang bersumber dari keserakahan, kebejatan moral dan
> kebohongan terstruktur.
>
> Tulisan kali inipun tidak jauh dari krisis keuangan di US dan tidak jauh
> pula dari keinginan saya menyatakan kembali bahwa ketiga hal tersebutlah
> yang telah dan akan terus membawa ekonomi US menyentuh titik terburuk dalam
> satu dekade mendatang bila pemerintah US dan sebagian besar ekonom US tidak
> melakukan koreksi kebijakan dan titik pandang pemulihan krisis secara
> segera. Titik terburuk tersebut adalah malapetaka hyperinflation.
>
> Hyperinflation? Satu hipotesa yang saat ini masih dianggap kecil
> kemungkinan (atau bahkan tidak mungkin) terjadi oleh sebagian besar ekonom.
> Saya sendiri termasuk satu dari kelompok yang beranggapan bahwwa potensi
> terjadinya hyperinflation di US adalah relatif tinggi. Tentu saja ini dengan
> berbagai asumsi yang mengikuti.
>
> Memang sungguh tidak mudah membayangkan terjadinya hyperinflation di US –
> membayangkan sebuah negara adidaya dalam satu dekade ke depan dapat
> terjerembab dan tersungkur dimana nilai mata uangnya merosot drastis,
> terjadi pengangguran dimana mana, kemiskinan menyebar, negara terperangkap
> dalam hutang dengan jumlah yang sangat besar, dan sering kali diikuti oleh
> krisis politik serta krisis social. Mungkin lebih sulit dibanding pada saat
> 2007 kita membayangkan indeks Dow terkoreksi 50 persen dimana di Maret 2009
> ternyata menjadi kenyataan.
>
> Mungkin mendengar argument

Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*I had a high expectation on the stimulus programs around the world, but
seems they don't work the way I expected. I dunno what to say, but at least
we had our 1400pts rally, didnt we? Thank God we had.

If you have different opinion, please share.
*
2009/10/4 Thomas Frederick 

>
>
> So, you mean the bull until 2012 canceled el??
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:52:41 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
>
>
>
> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents,
> or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
> *
>
>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
>the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>
>*
>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
> prices
>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation in
>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
>experience rising prices.
>
>*
>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan (the
>biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already have
>excess supply from last year contract.
>
>*
>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency. Since
>China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well. 
> Basically
>they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of paper), so
>CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper, including to Bumi
>(lolz)
>
>*
>- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
>United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil war
>and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
>kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..
>
>*
>- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
>for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
> notes
>(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a matter
>of a millisecond.
>
>*
>- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe
>for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say
>Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen).
>
>*
>- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
>natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.
>
>*
>- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
>job.
>
>*
>- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to
>have children because of high unemployment.
>
>*
>- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
>betting in Asia ex Japan.
>*
>
> *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free to
> discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
> Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most
> of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your
> opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is
> only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!
>
> There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
> outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
> ***
> 2009/10/4 yokorusi 
>
>>
>> http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang-raksasa.html
>>
>>
>> Bulan February 2009 yang lalu di dalam satu tulisan yang berjudul Worst
>> Than Nothing atau Better Than Nothing? - saya sedikit mengulas mengenai
>> esensi krisis keuangan yang bersumber dari keserakahan, kebejatan moral dan
>> kebohongan terstruktur.
>>
>> Tulisan kali inipun tidak jauh dari krisis keuangan di US dan tidak jauh
>> pula dari keinginan saya menyatakan kembali bahwa ketiga hal tersebutlah
>> yang telah dan akan terus membawa ekonomi US menyentuh titik terburuk dalam
>> satu dekade mendatang bi

Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody
help?*


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for sharing, EL.
> I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
> What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign to
> anticipate that.
>
> From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
> institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
> where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation*'.
> (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
> Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! 
>
>>
>>
>> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents,
>> or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
>> *
>>
>>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
>>the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>>
>>*
>>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
>>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
>> prices
>>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation 
>> in
>>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
>>experience rising prices.
>>
>>*
>>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
>>(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already
>>have excess supply from last year contract.
>>
>>*
>>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
>>Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well.
>>Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of
>>paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
>>including to Bumi (lolz)
>>
>>*
>>- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
>>United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil 
>> war
>>and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
>>kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..
>>
>>*
>>- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
>>for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
>> notes
>>(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a 
>> matter
>>of a millisecond.
>>
>>*
>>- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe
>>for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say
>>Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen).
>>
>>*
>>- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
>>natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.
>>
>>*
>>- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
>>job.
>>
>>*
>>- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to
>>have children because of high unemployment.
>>
>>*
>>- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
>>betting in Asia ex Japan.
>>*
>>
>> *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free
>> to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
>> Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most
>> of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your
>> opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is
>> only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!
>>
>> There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
>> outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
>> *
>>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*For day to day strategy, OB has JT, Tasrul, Embah, Boyz and Artomoro9 which
should be more than enough to guide everyone here. I, like yokorusi, only
express our opinion from the macro side.

I also understand that my investment strategy is not quite relevant to
retail traders so please forgive me for my limited knowledge.*

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
> Hahaha... You got me.
> Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P
>
> Pls EL... tell me.
> At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation of
> their assets.
> Thanks. :)
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can somebody
>> help?*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz®  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing, EL.
>>> I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
>>> What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's sovereign
>>> to anticipate that.
>>>
>>> From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
>>> institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
>>> where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*devaluation
>>> *'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
>>> Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2
>>>> cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
>>>>the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>>>>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>>>>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>>>>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>>>>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
>>>>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
>>>> prices
>>>>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the 
>>>> inflation in
>>>>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect 
>>>> we
>>>>experience rising prices.
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
>>>>(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they 
>>>> already
>>>>have excess supply from last year contract.
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
>>>>Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well.
>>>>Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of
>>>>paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
>>>>including to Bumi (lolz)
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
>>>>United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil 
>>>> war
>>>>and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
>>>>kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
>>>>for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
>>>> notes
>>>>(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a 
>>>> matter
>>>>of a millisecond.
>>>>
>>>>*
>>>>- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major
>>>>catastrophe for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar
>>>>shock. I'd say Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange 
>>>> doesn't
>>>>

Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*#1 green energy and global warming issue, and coal is considered as dirty.
But of course for now coal is king, but for how long?

#2 it is. *

2009/10/4 anrusing data 

>
>
> Very good El,
>
> Mostly have the same sense with you,  except:
>
> Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and natural gas
> will play major roles in 2010 forward.
> # Why do they use energy sources while coal is still cheap?
>
> Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our job.
> # emang mau panas, sambel, terasi, tempe? (bad joke :) )
>
> Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already bettingin 
> Asia ex Japan.
> # wah, saingan ama prof JT and Hans donk... :)
>
>
>
> 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! 
>
>>
>>
>> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents,
>> or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
>> *
>>
>>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
>>the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>>
>>*
>>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
>>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
>> prices
>>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation 
>> in
>>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
>>experience rising prices.
>>
>>*
>>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
>>(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already
>>have excess supply from last year contract.
>>
>>*
>>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
>>Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well.
>>Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of
>>paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
>>including to Bumi (lolz)
>>
>>*
>>- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
>>United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil 
>> war
>>and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
>>kinda agree with this guy. People's States of China..
>>
>>*
>>- *USD collapses and replaced by SDR (or other form of global money)
>>for international trade. You know, currently only 4% of USD is in bank 
>> notes
>>(paper), the rest (96%) is electronic money. USD can be created in a 
>> matter
>>of a millisecond.
>>
>>*
>>- *There will be possibly the biggest (and the last) major catastrophe
>>for stock market around the globe in 2010, thanks to dollar shock. I'd say
>>Buy On Weakness (that is if the global stock exchange doesn't get frozen).
>>
>>*
>>- *Alternative energy sources such as biomass, solar, nuclear and
>>natural gas will play major roles in 2010 forward.
>>
>>*
>>- *Asia will be flooded with Americans that are looking for jobs. Our
>>job.
>>
>>*
>>- *Japan will have population crisis. Japaneses are simply refusing to
>>have children because of high unemployment.
>>
>>*
>>- *Many high profile hedge fund like Templeton and Mobius are already
>>betting in Asia ex Japan.
>>*
>>
>> *Well, it's not really an agenda, just common sense so please feel free
>> to discuss. No reason to be afraid though as I know Indonesia survived Asian
>> Crisis, right? [?]. I know, sometimes I made crazy thinking. I expect most
>> of you will not agree with me (as usual), but please kindly share your
>> opinion too. After all these mess, everything will start over again, this is
>> only a lifecycle. We are so lucky to witness this epic turnaround. Woohoo!!
>>
>> There is no secret agenda, all we have to do is open our mind and think
>> outside the box. Macro economy is not a science, it's an art. lolz..
>> ***
>> 2009/10/4 yokorusi 
>>
>>>
>>> http://unpublisheddream.blogspot.com/2009/10/nightmare-of-sang

Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*Artmoro implicitly just said he will jack up bumi tomorrow, so let's just
enjoy it. What a generous person he is. [?] *

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:50 PM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
> You are so modest :)
> Thanks anyway for sharing and enrich us with macro view.
> Those should be helpful for them who analyze the market by 'top-down'
> approach.
> Keep sharing.
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, It's Elaine! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *For day to day strategy, OB has JT, Tasrul, Embah, Boyz and Artomoro9
>> which should be more than enough to guide everyone here. I, like yokorusi,
>> only express our opinion from the macro side.
>>
>> I also understand that my investment strategy is not quite relevant to
>> retail traders so please forgive me for my limited knowledge.*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM, boyz®  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hahaha... You got me.
>>> Awas ya, gw cubit kalo nanti ketemu :P
>>>
>>> Pls EL... tell me.
>>> At least, tell me what are their strategies to minimize the devaluation
>>> of their assets.
>>> Thanks. :)
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:01 PM, It's Elaine! wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *I cannot tell you on that one [?]. I don't know the answer. Can
>>>> somebody help?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, boyz®  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sharing, EL.
>>>>> I don't think it is secret agenda. Like you said, just common senses.
>>>>> What will become secret agenda is the maneuver of the market's
>>>>> sovereign to anticipate that.
>>>>>
>>>>> From your perspectives, if you think there's asset/fund management
>>>>> institutions that have the same thinking with yours,
>>>>> where would they put their assets(funds) to secure it from '*
>>>>> devaluation*'. (USD devaluated against major currencies, right?)
>>>>> Commodities? Gold? Bonds? Sharia Bonds? Emerging Market Equities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Salam,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/4 It's Elaine! 
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2
>>>>>> cents, or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US
>>>>>>is the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>>>>>>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>>>>>>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*
>>>>>>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>>>>>>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>>>>>>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more 
>>>>>> meaningful)
>>>>>>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
>>>>>> prices
>>>>>>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the 
>>>>>> inflation in
>>>>>>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an 
>>>>>> aftereffect we
>>>>>>experience rising prices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*
>>>>>>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
>>>>>>(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they 
>>>>>> already
>>>>>>have excess supply from last year contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*
>>>>>>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
>>>>>>Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as 
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form 
>>>&

Re: [ob] Kaburrrrrrrrrr.......BUMI !!!

[It's Elaine!]

*HH!!
*
2009/10/5 JT™ 

>
>
> In term of TA, BNBR jauh lebih cakep.., tapi tetep statusnya masih spec
> buy, hrs tunggu bsk...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
> --
> *From: * "Bozz Traders" 
> *Date: *Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:27:24 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *[ob] Kaburr...BUMI !!!
>
>  *Jendral. Kayaknya serangan Bumi loyo nih, soalnye ane lihat traders pada
> kabu langkah seribu, bisa tutup merah nih Jend *
>
>
> 
>

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: BUMI Page ini (Bill William)

[It's Elaine!]

*Just put the chart upside down... lolz*

2009/10/5 boyz® 

>
>
> Kalo digabung (dimodified) sama volume analysis, makin optimal kali tu,
> bro...
> Rumus nya dikunci sih... tapi kayaknya dulu ane pernah lihat ada yg bisa
> bikin rumus-nya di Metastock. Apakah di crack Passwordnya, atau di
> Rekonstriksi, ane ga paham dah.
>
> Tapi kalau dipakai di IDX, tetep cuma bisa searah (long position) doang.
> So... system ini (karena trend following) cuma optimal kalo market lagi
> Bullish aja.
>
> Salam
>
>
> 2009/10/5 JT™ 
>
>> Itu die.., hehe..
>>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation

[It's Elaine!]

*Devaluating the USD could trigger a war with China and the rest of the
world. What will happen if your foreign reserve (which in USD) is devaluated
to 1/10?

I'd say it's better for the Fed to stop the stimulus program and begin
raising int. rate to endorse saving and limit the circulation of money. What
will happen next would be major carry trade unwind and prolonged recession.

Recession is not something to be afraid of, it's naturally part of the
economic cycle after a bubble economy. If they're forcing to avoid recession
by 'patching' with another bubble (either by cutting rates or 'creating'
money), they might end up destroying the whole economy itself.

Bernanke should increase the int rate up to 10%. In the 1973, hyperinflation
also existed in the US, thanks to Arab oil embago. A treasury guy named Paul
Volcker made a huge step by increasing int. rate to 20%.

Unless, there is a dirty plan coming..

Anyway, I know it's green today, like the color of my skirt I'm wearing
now.. (lolz like anyone cares)


*
2009/10/4 agung aja 

> Its simple miss, when the world economy had been in difficult situation, US
> will create new economic system that is reset all company Balance Sheet, or
> create an extrem policy that US gov should create "new US $", 10 $ become 1
> $, thats only the way out from the crisis, US $ index has fallen for ever
> since, then the world should has a new currency, especially Asia should have
> one, like euro in Europe, so that the world doesn't need to depend on US $,
> I agree with you that china still convert their US $ into commodities since
> they've seen US $ index become lower low
>
> one big question : what if the world has a new currency, will it be euro or
> renmimbi or the other ???
> let see the next story of the new world economy, time will tell
> cmiiw
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sun, October 4, 2009 10:42:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
>
>
>
> *I had a high expectation on the stimulus programs around the world, but
> seems they don't work the way I expected. I dunno what to say, but at least
> we had our 1400pts rally, didnt we? Thank God we had.
>
> If you have different opinion, please share.
> *
> 2009/10/4 Thomas Frederick  yahoo.com
> >
>
>>
>>
>> So, you mean the bull until 2012 canceled el??
>> --
>> *From: * "It's Elaine!" >
>> *Date: *Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:52:41 +0700
>> *To: *>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] The Nightmare of Sang Raksasa - Hyperinflation
>>
>>
>>
>> *This is a very bearish post you got there mate! Well, here's my 2 cents,
>> or should we call it, the GREAT AGENDA (ha ha whatever) for 2010:
>> *
>>
>>- *US dollar is losing its value, price goes up, but since the US is
>>the biggest consumers for now, inflation will make them lose their
>>purchasing power thus the demand will be weak (as imports get more
>>expensive), less workers and raw materials needed. A deadly spiral.
>>
>>*
>>- *Keep in mind that we must be careful to operate from the best
>>definition of inflation. Though it is commonly thought of as 'rising
>>prices', I prefer the more traditional (and ultimately, more meaningful)
>>definition: 'an increase in the quantity of money and credit'. Rising 
>> prices
>>are simply one of the effects of inflation; first you have the inflation 
>> in
>>the form of an increase in money and credit and then as an aftereffect we
>>experience rising prices.
>>
>>*
>>- *The demand for coal from China (the biggest consumer) and Japan
>>(the biggest importer) are expected to be lower next year as they already
>>have excess supply from last year contract.
>>
>>*
>>- *When we talk about inflation, we really mean (cheap) currency.
>>Since China holds the most USD today it means they're in danger as well.
>>Basically they're holding worthless paper. (It's not even in the form of
>>paper), so CIC goes around the world to spread this worthless paper,
>>including to Bumi (lolz)
>>
>>*
>>- *Igor Panarin, a Russian economic professor, predicted that the
>>United States of America may disintegrate in late 2010 because of civil 
>> war
>>and social unrest (like what happened in Indonesia eleven years ago). I
>>kinda agree with this guy. People'

Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih?

[It's Elaine!]

*Safe? You really think so?*

2009/10/8 JT 

>
>
>  Antm ane masih Hold Pak..., TINS masih OK, INCO blom ada momentum, masih
> random move.., BUMI lagi coba bikin base, close diatas 2850 confirm
> reverse.., MEDC PAUSE, masih bisa HOLD,  IHSG masih AMAN !!
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *highwaysta...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* 08 Oktober 2009 15:00
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih?
>
>
>
>
>
> Huahhahaha don't put gamblers in the same room they say...apalagi ada kartu
> :)
> Kidding boss
> Antm dah out pak? Masa cm segini aja ya..
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
>  --
>
> *From: *"jsxtrader" 
>
> *Date: *Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:57:34 -
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih?
>
>
>
>
>
> sorry boss.., ngga pantau OB, ane lagi bareng Hans meratapi nasib nih
> nyangkut di BUMI., hahaha.., ngga.., ngga, lagi meeting nih nyiapin materi
> buat WS sabtu besok.., tapi yg ada bukan nyiapin materi malah trading
> bareng..., hehehe.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "iching_prediction"  wrote:
> >
> > prof dimana nih seharian nga nonggol, antm udah tp belon?
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "JT"  wrote:
> > >
> > > LALAT-LALAT MUDA ikutin LALAT TUWIR (Mbah) aja tuh……., wushhh..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: 
> > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com[mailto:
> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of Halim Perdana
> > > Sent: 07 Oktober 2009 13:57
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: Re: [ob] ANTM gimane nih?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lalat muda aman nggak Prof?
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>   Tidak ada virus ditemukan dalam pesan masuk.
> Diperiksa oleh AVG - www.avg.com
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> 20:49:00
>
>
> 
>

Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

[It's Elaine!]

*Is that all?*

2009/10/9 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
> dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.
>
>
> ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)
>
> selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: Aria Santoso 
> Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM
>
> Thanks Jendral A9!
> Target done.
> Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
> tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.
>
> artomoro9 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > DEAL...!
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > A9
> > (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
> >
> > --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
> > /http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>>/*
> menulis:
> >
> >
> > Dari: boyz® http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>
> >
> > Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
> > Kepada: 
> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
> > masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
> >
> > mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
> > 
> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > siyap kumendan boyz...
> >
> > ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
> >
> > ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > A9
> > (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
> >
> >
> > Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn
> > kabur sendirian..
> > banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih
> > mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda
> > memimpin saat bullish...
> > Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
> > why not...
> > boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War
> > Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti
> > situasi saham bumi skarang...
> > thx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > <
> http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> >
> > ,_._,___
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
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>
>
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>
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> 

Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

[It's Elaine!]

*Kenapa? mau naik?*

2009/10/9 Andre Andre 

>
>
>
> ELBNBR ente koq diem ajeente blg mau maen kapan neh?
> --
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Fri, October 9, 2009 4:19:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
> n Boyz
>
>
>
> *Is that all?*
>
> 2009/10/9 artomoro9 >
>
>>
>>
>>
>> tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
>> dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.
>>
>>
>> ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)
>>
>> selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)
>>
>>
>> --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso > gmail.com
>> >* menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: Aria Santoso >
>> Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>> Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM
>>
>> Thanks Jendral A9!
>> Target done.
>> Pasukan siap dibubarkan.. .
>> tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.
>>
>> artomoro9 wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > DEAL...!
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
>> >
>> > --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® /> > com<http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>>/*
>> menulis:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dari: boyz® http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
>> > masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
>> >
>> > mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/9 artomoro9 > > co.id<http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>> > > > co.id<http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > siyap kumendan boyz...
>> >
>> > ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
>> >
>> > ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
>> >
>> >
>> > Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan jgn
>> > kabur sendirian..
>> > banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih
>> > mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda
>> > memimpin saat bullish...
>> > Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
>> > why not...
>> > boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War
>> > Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti
>> > situasi saham bumi skarang...
>> > thx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  - - - - -
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > ,_._,___
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

[It's Elaine!]

*Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any
fundamental reason for today's rebound.*

2009/10/9 

>
>
> Weekend dulu El.
> Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar..
> Have a nice weekend all..
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9
> n Boyz
>
>
>
> *Is that all?*
>
> 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
>> dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.
>>
>>
>> ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)
>>
>> selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)
>>
>>
>> --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: Aria Santoso 
>> Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM
>>
>> Thanks Jendral A9!
>> Target done.
>> Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
>> tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.
>>
>> artomoro9 wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > DEAL...!
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
>> >
>> > --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
>> > /http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>>/*
>> menulis:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dari: boyz® http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>> > Kepada: 
>> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
>> > masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
>> >
>> > mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend.. :)
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
>> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>> > 
>> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > siyap kumendan boyz...
>> >
>> > ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
>> >
>> > ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
>> >
>> >
>> > Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn
>> > kabur sendirian..
>> > banyak fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih
>> > mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti ketika anda
>> > memimpin saat bullish...
>> > Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
>> > why not...
>> > boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War
>> > Manual of Tsun Zu... kl perangnya di ibaratkan seperti
>> > situasi saham bumi skarang...
>> > thx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > <
>> http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
>> >
>> > ,_._,___
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
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>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>
>>
>>
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>> Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2
>> halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di
>> sini! 
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Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

[It's Elaine!]

*He did a good job [?]. Embah did great job as he warned about BUMI short
days ago. Well, okay then anyone care to explain what happened to bumi
today?*

2009/10/9 boyz® 

>
>
> Just did a good job?  He just did great job !
> Congratz to General Artomoro...
>
> And thanks to all involved in this show, yg terjun kelapangan maupun yg
> nonton di pinggiran, pasukan elit, reguler bahkan pasukan cadangan yg belum
> sempet terjun.
> And great thanks to BOZZ yg hari ini bersedia 'mempertunjukkan' sedikit
> kepiawaian strategy-nya untuk ditonton dan dianalisa oleh mereka2 yg watch
> and take attention on BUMI movement.
>
> @Elaine: d u think every move should inline with fundamental reason? i
> thought that is for long run.
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 2009/10/9 It's Elaine! 
>
>
>>
>> *Cuma tanya saja. Art did a good job today. I wonder if there's any
>> fundamental reason for today's rebound.*
>>
>> 2009/10/9 
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Weekend dulu El.
>>> Ngupi-ngupi, pijet, jalan2 sm keluarga/pacar..
>>> Have a nice weekend all..
>>> --
>>> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
>>> *Date: *Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:19:07 +0700
>>> *To: *
>>> *Subject: *Re: done ! Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to
>>> A9 n Boyz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Is that all?*
>>>
>>> 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tugas BANTENG KETATON untuk reboundkan BUMI sore ini DONE.
>>>> dan DEAL permintaan kumendan boyz utk 2875 Bid udah kesampaian.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ijo gak ijo pokoke rebound..  (kekekekek)
>>>>
>>>> selanjutnya NUNGGU petunjuk embah.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> A9
>>>> (banteng ketaton .! masih berbiji)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, Aria Santoso * menulis:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dari: Aria Santoso 
>>>> Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>>>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 2:53 PM
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jendral A9!
>>>> Target done.
>>>> Pasukan siap dibubarkan...
>>>> tinggal pasukan elite yg masih di lokasi pertempuran.
>>>>
>>>> artomoro9 wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > DEAL...!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > regards,
>>>> > A9
>>>> > (banteng ketaton ! yang masih berbiji)
>>>> >
>>>> > --- Pada *Jum, 9/10/09, boyz® 
>>>> > /http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>>/*
>>>> menulis:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Dari: boyz® 
>>>> > http://mc/compose?to=m457...@gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> > Judul: Re: banteng ketaton ! Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz
>>>> > Kepada: 
>>>> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> > Tanggal: Jumat, 9 Oktober, 2009, 10:19 AM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Wekz  jendral bikin ane tersipu malu nih,
>>>> > masa kopral dipanggil kumendan... :P
>>>> >
>>>> > mmm... perintah kumendan Aria S katanya 2875 kudu di kiri, jend..
>>>> :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Salam,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2009/10/9 artomoro9 
>>>> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>>>> > 
>>>> > http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > siyap kumendan boyz...
>>>> >
>>>> > ni hari BUMI kudu rebound.
>>>> >
>>>> > ijo gak ijo pokoke BUMI rebound.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > regards,
>>>> > A9
>>>> > (banteng ketaton yg masih punya biji)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn
>>>> > kabur sendirian..
&g

Re: [ob] BUMI - Intraday to A9 n Boyz

[It's Elaine!]

*You guys are very compatible and harmonious. I think you should get married
to each other lolz..*

**[?][?]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:27 AM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> To Jenderal Artomoro, keep ur spirit high my bro.
>
>> *"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into
>> the deepest valleys.
>> Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even
>> unto death!"*
>>
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> 2009/10/9 elvira raven 
>
>>
>>
>>  Ada baiknya jendral memimpin mundur pasukan... jgn kabur sendirian..banyak
>> fans anda khususnya newbie2 yg masih mengharapkan aba2 dari anda.. seperti
>> ketika anda memimpin saat bullish...
>> Mundur untuk menyerang kembali ?
>> why not...
>> boyz tolong kasih strategi apa yg ada di buku War Manual of Tsun Zu... kl
>> perangnya di ibaratkan seperti situasi saham bumi skarang...
>> thx
>>
>>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [ob] Dollar Rises, Bonds Fall on Bernanke Comments; Commodities Drop

[It's Elaine!]

*That was quick, right boyz..*? [?]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:45 PM,  wrote:

>
>  Oct. 9 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar rose against the yen and the euro and
> government bonds fell after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said
> the bank will tighten monetary policy once the economy improves.
> Commodities slipped.
>
>  The U.S. currency advanced as much as 1.3 percent versus the yen, the most
> since Aug. 7, and was up 1.2 percent at 10:42 a.m. in New York. Yields on
> two-year Treasuries rose as much as 10 basis points and on German notes as
> much as 13 basis points. Copper fell 1.5 percent. The Standard & Poor’s 500
> Index rose 0.2 percent.
>
>  The Fed will need to raise rates “at some point” to control inflation,
> Bernanke said at a Board of Governors conference yesterday in Washington.
> Australia’s Reserve Bank unexpectedly increased its key rate Oct. 6. The
> MSCI World Index of 23 developed stocks has advanced 4.4 percent this week
> as U.S. jobless claims fell more than analysts estimated and Alcoa Inc.
> reported an unexpected profit.
>
>  Bernanke’s remarks “were interpreted to suggest that the Fed stood ready
> to tighten,” Gareth Berry, a currency strategist at UBS AG in Singapore,
> wrote in a note today. “The comments come as investors look for evidence
> that the policy tightening timetables of other central banks will be brought
> forward” after the Australian move.
>
>  The Dollar Index, which IntercontinentalExchange Inc. uses to track the
> currency against the yen, euro, Swiss franc, pound, Swedish krona and
> Canadian dollar, rose 0.3 percent to 76.220. It fell to 75.767 yesterday,
> the lowest level since August 2008.
>
>  Yen Drops
>
>  The yen fell against all 16 most-traded currencies tracked by Bloomberg,
> losing 1.2 percent versus the dollar, after Japan’s Cabinet office said
> machinery orders rose 0.5 percent in August, compared with the 2.1 percent
> increase predicted in a Bloomberg survey of 27 economists.
>
>  The increase in the German two-year yield narrowed the gap, or spread,
> with the 10-year bund by four basis points to 183 basis points, the lowest
> level since April 29, based on closing prices. The U.S. Treasury spread was
> little changed at 237 basis points.
>
>  Copper for delivery in three months fell as much as 2.1 percent on the
> London Metal Exchange, leading a decline in industrial metals. Crude oil was
> little changed at $71.90 a barrel in New York trading. Gold for immediate
> delivery declined 0.5 percent to $1,049.45 an ounce. The metal rose to a
> record for three consecutive days this week.
>
>  European Stocks
>
>  Europe’s Dow Jones Stoxx 600 Index slipped 0.5 percent after earlier
> rising as much as 0.3 percent. BHP Billiton Ltd., the world’s largest mining
> company, fell for the first time in five days, losing 0.6 percent.
>
>  Developing-nation shares rose for a fifth day. The MSCI Emerging Markets
> Index added 0.5 percent, extending its weekly increase to 4.8 percent, the
> most since July 17.
>
>  The Shanghai Composite Index of stocks in China posted its biggest gain in
> five weeks as the nation’s markets opened after an eight-day holiday.
>
>  China’s banking regulator said today it would be premature for the
> government to start winding down stimulus efforts in the world’s
> third-largest economy.
>
>  “It’s far too early to talk about an exit strategy,” Liu Mingkang,
> chairman of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, told a conference in
> Hong Kong. The economy “may face a bumpy road ahead.”
>
>  The International Monetary Fund on Oct. 1 raised its forecast for global
> growth next year as more than $2 trillion in stimulus packages and demand in
> Asia pull the world economy out of its worst recession since World War II.
> The Washington-based IMF said the economy will expand 3.1 percent in 2010,
> after a July forecast of 2.5 percent.
>
>  To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Carrigan in London at
> jcarri...@bloomberg.net
>
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[ob] Robert Prechter?

[It's Elaine!]

*Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?*

Re: [ob] Robert Prechter?

[It's Elaine!]

*Ah yes, Elliot Wave. I read somewhere on bloomberg news, he said about
deflation or something, obviously based on his wave counting (though I
failed to see it). I know nothing about this wave mumbo jumbo though..

How accurate is this method ? anyone have a profitable experience with wave
counting?*

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Aria Santoso wrote:

> booster ad to EW course?  ;)
> r u in cahoots with someone?  - just kidding. huehuehe...
>
> It's Elaine! wrote:
> >
> >
> > /Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?/
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [ob] Robert Prechter?

[It's Elaine!]

*So it comes to a conclusion that wave counting isn't really working (or
cannot be used properly... whatever), but seems lot of ppl like it, I saw
many posts about wave in OB.*

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Andre Andre  wrote:

>
>
> i subscribed to his newsletters before...he did short s&p at 1500 or
> something and cover it at 700 something...but currently his predictions
> always wrong and when he done it wrong he always said that it might go
> higher before crash bla bla blah perhaps he was good when he was younger
> but now not seems that good hehehe
>
> ------
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sat, October 10, 2009 11:13:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Robert Prechter?
>
>
>
> *Ah yes, Elliot Wave. I read somewhere on bloomberg news, he said about
> deflation or something, obviously based on his wave counting (though I
> failed to see it). I know nothing about this wave mumbo jumbo though..
>
> How accurate is this method ? anyone have a profitable experience with wave
> counting?*
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Aria Santoso  gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> booster ad to EW course?  ;)
>> r u in cahoots with someone?  - just kidding. huehuehe...
>>
>> It's Elaine! wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > /Anyone ever heard a name of Robert Prechter?/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ob] New member!

[It's Elaine!]

*Hello kyce, I've been here for a while and also an expert, hope I can take
all of your money soon. Nice to meet you too. [?]

*

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:23 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Hello all.. I'm new here and new in the market also, hope can learn much
> from you all. Nice too meet you all.
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> *Date: *Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:07:08 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *RE: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>  YUP – lihat *bottom-line*-nya ‘aja, yaitu *earnings seasons* dr
> fundamental perusahaan2 bgm nanti hasilnya – hiperinflasi di sini bisa ‘aja
> berarti USD masih akan melemah2 sptnya terhadap VALAS lainnya – dstnya…
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Franky chandra
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:25 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
> Maaf yah saya newbie ingin share juga, kalo menurut saya persoalan rate itu
> hanya sementara saja efeknya, tapi secara keseluruhan pasar modal itu tetap
> fokus pada teknikal dan fundamental perusahaan, so kalau saya lihat when the
> time is right,slowly but sure they will increase the rate, and the fed
> usually know how to mix it with market behaviour and they know how to
> control it, they can mix it with good news, job news, or incomes news, so
> the market still steady, they not simply increase the rate like that, a lot
> of factors in that case. Thanx
>
> Powered by My-BoLoT-berry® !!HAJAR KANAN TERUS NYOOOK!!
>  --
>
> *From: *inpestorpembela...@gmail.com
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:09:05 +
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
> Kl hiperinflasi berarti inflasi tinggi -- biasanya suku bunga jg dikerek
> tinggi untuk mengimbangi laju inflasi-- kl suku bunga tinggi not good buat
> pasar modal.
>
> Salam
>
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>
> *From: *"tjetjun" 
>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:05:53 -
>
> *To: *
>
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Dow 10,000...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> numpang nanya yah, karena setengah dari saham saya ada di US, kalau terjadi
> hiperinflasi, apa saham2 usa akan ambruk juga ? dari tulisan dibawah
> kayaknya saham akan naik ? karena kalau terjadi hiperinflasi, uang amrik
> akan runtuh, jadi kalau sahamnya runtuh juga, saya kena dua arah.
> menurut teman saya, akan runtuh dua2nya.. jadi ada yang punya data
> bagaimana kondisi saham di amrik sewaktu terjadi inflasi besar2an tahun lalu
> ? biasanyakan rate meningkat dan saham turun, tapi saat kenaikan lalu yang
> luar biasa, rate fed dalam keadaan sangat tinggi dan saham tiap hari naik.
>
> thks dan salam atas bantuannya
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> inpestorpembela...@... wrote:
> >
> > Kl gak salah di milis ini beberapa bulan lalu ada yg prediksi (kl gak
> salah Stocksforliving) Dow akan ke 1 sebelum mengalami koreksi besar
> kembali ke lowestnya thn lalu. (Cmiiw)
> > Just be prepare for the worst.
> >
> > Disclaimer on
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
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> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Aria Bela Nusa" 
> > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:58:44
> > To: >
> > Subject: [ob] Dow 10,000...
> >
> >
> > Dow 10,000
> >
> >
> > By Colin Twiggs
> > October 12, 3:00 a.m. ET (6:00 p.m. AET)
> >
> > These extracts from my trading diary are for educational purposes and
> should
> > not be interpreted as investment or trading advice. Full terms and
> > conditions can be found at Terms of
> >  Use.
> >
> > We remain in the high-risk period following the end of the third quarter.
> > The Dow is also testing its key resistance level of 1, while the FTSE
> > 100 and ASX 200 are testing their key level of 5000. Upward breakout
> would
> > confirm a bull market, while respect of these levels would warn of a
> > secondary correction.
> >
> > In the long term, we are not out of the woods. John Mauldin in Thoughts
> From
> >  The
> Frontline
> > highlights recent research by Peter Bernholz (Professor of Economics at
> the
> > University of Basel, Switzerland) into the causes of hyper-inflation. In
> his
> > book Monetary <
> http://astore.amazon.com/incrediblecha-20/detail/1845427785>
> > Regimes and Inflation: History, Economic and Political Relationships,
> > Bernholz analyzes 12 of the largest episodes of hyper-inflation in the
> last
> > 20 years. All were caused by financing huge public budget deficits
> through
> > money creation and he concludes that the tipping point for
> hyper-inflation
> > occurs when government deficits exceed 40% of expenditures.
> >
> > US budget deficits of 40 per cent or more are projected for 2009 and
> 2010, a
> > clear warning despite the current credit contraction. If hype

Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?

[It's Elaine!]

*If you have difficulties jacking up BUMI, I'll help you tomolo. [?]. Just a
friendly offer. I have a plan on all B7.* *Are you ok with this?*

2009/10/13 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> masa masih salah denger sih bro..!
>
>
> regards,
> A
> BUMI ontheway..!
>
> --- Pada *Sel, 13/10/09, boyz® * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: boyz® 
> Judul: Re: BUMI - RE: [ob] IHSG: The Last Subwave 5 ?
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Selasa, 13 Oktober, 2009, 9:24 PM
>
>
>
> Setuju banget bro... beda bgt antara Gambling dgn Spec Buy.
>
> Bro... kalo ada indikasi OIL tembus MA200 weekly di 75an or breaking
> long-term bearish-nya, feeling ane besok BUMI joged2, bro...
> DJUSCL juga lagi atret mo break high lagi tuh kayaknya.
> and denger2 besok katanya ada inflow mau masuk BUMI. *mudah2an ga salah
> denger, hehehe...*
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 2009/10/13 JT™ http://mc/compose?to=jsxtra...@yahoo.com>
> >
>
>> Hehe, ente bisa aje..., kagak lah, emang ane gak tau besok bijimane.., yg
>> kite tau pasti adalah harga berada di support kuat, dan resiko sdh
>> terukur..., tapi apakah besok naik atau turun kite blom tau, paling kite
>> cuma bisa siapin antisipasi aja, kalo turun gimana, kalau naik gimana..
>>
>> Apakah ini gambling?? No ini spec buy, ada perbedaan yg mendasar antara
>> keduannya. Hehe...
>>
>> JT
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>
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>>
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>
>
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[ob] BUMI vs BNBR

[It's Elaine!]

*Who will win the race (%)...*

Re: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR

[It's Elaine!]

*"I provide the ocean for **Art to command the battleships.. "

-Elaine Tzu ;)*

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Frederick  wrote:

>
>
> BNBR lahh el..
>
>  *Thank You! *
> **
> *ThomaS FredericK*
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 10/13/09, It's Elaine! * wrote:
>
>
> From: It's Elaine! 
> Subject: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 9:43 PM
>
>   *Who will win the race (%)...*
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: Trs: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR

[It's Elaine!]

*Ha ha ha... yes you win. Congrats, Art. [?] I'm proud of you. In average,
all B7 except Bakrieland perform well today. Since I'm betting on B7 so your
victory is our pleasure also. Please take care of our money (OB fam)..*

2009/10/14 artomoro9 

>
>
>
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
> Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 4:02 PM
>
>
> score at 16.00 wib
>
> bnbr +4.03%
>
> BUMI + 5.35%
>
>
>  i m WIN...!
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 12:07 PM
>
>
> score at 12.00 wib
>
>
> bnbr +3.2%
> bumi +4.46%
>
>
> pake TOP one dong biar banter!!
>
>
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway 4000..!!
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 9:59 AM
>
>
>
>
> DEAL ...!
>
> finish at 16.00
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway..!
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 14/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: It's Elaine! 
> Judul: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 14 Oktober, 2009, 9:43 AM
>
>
>
> *Who will win the race (%)...*
>
>
>
> --
>  Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan 
> cepat.<http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/>
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Re: Trs: Bls: [ob] BUMI vs BNBR

[It's Elaine!]

*Why not cium biji jendral.. ha ha ha.. *

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Gombal Suwek  wrote:

>
>
> Wah . cium tangan Jendral Arto sama Madame Elaine 
> Salut  High respect is to Jendral ...
> Fa Cai Fa Cai 
>
>
> 2009/10/14 It's Elaine! 
>
>>
>>
>> *Ha ha ha... yes you win. Congrats, Art. [?] I'm proud of you. In average,
>> all B7 except Bakrieland perform well today. Since I'm betting on B7 so your
>> victory is our pleasure also. Please take care of our money (OB fam)..*
>>
>>
>
>
> 
>
<<330.gif>>

Re: [ob] Fifi kemana ?

[It's Elaine!]

*Love is in the air.[?] *

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:10 AM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
> Ehemmm.
> Suit2
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:09 AM, JT  wrote:
>
>> Ci.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
>> Sent: 15 Oktober 2009 10:06
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [ob] Fifi kemana ?
>>
>> IHSG mulai rebound, kok Fifi engga posting SERBU... hehehe...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
<>

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Elaine percaya Artomoro is a man of his word. Bring it to 4000, make all of
us happy.*

2009/10/15 Embah 

>
>
> Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR KANAN,
> dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>
> Contoh yg lain:
> - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah buaya
>   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu: MENINGKATKAN
>   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
> - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya naik,
>   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
> KENA
>   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>
>
>  --
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *artomoro9
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
>
>
>
> hajar kanan mbah...!!!
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant 
> *menulis:
>
>
> Dari: jsx_consultant 
> Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>
>
> BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
>
> http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png
>
> - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored
>   line) dan membentuk SubWave 3
> - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum)
> - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is
>   above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal)
> - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> --
> Terhubung langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs pribadi Anda?
> 
> Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang!
>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?

2009/10/15 charles_3983 

> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
> jadinya metode BK :)
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hans"  wrote:
> >
> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
> > Hehe... Canda
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Embah" 
> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
> > To: 
> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> >
> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
> KANAN,
> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
> >
> > Contoh yg lain:
> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
> buaya
> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
> MENINGKATKAN
> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
> naik,
> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
> KENA
> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
> >
> >
> >   _
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of artomoro9
> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hajar kanan mbah...!!!
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > A9
> > BUMI ontheway 4000..!
> >
> > --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant 
> > menulis:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
> > Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
> >
> >
> > BUMI: Technical 11:30
> >
> >
> > http://www.obrolanb 
> > andar.com/piwbumi.png
> >
> > - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored
> >   line) dan membentuk SubWave 3
> > - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum)
> > - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is
> >   above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal)
> > - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> > (Yahoo! ID required)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _
> >
> > Terhubung
> > <
> http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge
> > r.yahoo.com/pingbox/> langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs
> pribadi
> > Anda?
> > Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang!
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Come here, let me help you kid.* [?]

2009/10/15 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> masih 30 menit.
>
> apapun bisa terjadi.
>
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway...
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: Jacob Oen 
> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM
>
>
>
>
> Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di
> 3125?
>
> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>
> "That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless,
> because it means everyone can change for the better."
> --
> *From: * "Kyle Chen" 
> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 +
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
> Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL?
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * artomoro9 
> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
>
>
>
> gue yang ketiduran.
> maaf.
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id  co.id>*menulis:
>
>
> Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id 
> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM
>
>
>
> Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi masih
> tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat?
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group
> --
> *From: * artomoro9 
> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
>
>
>
> telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit.
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway 4000...!
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM
>
>
>
>
> in ten minute to hajar kanan.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: It's Elaine! 
> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM
>
>
>
> HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?
>
> 2009/10/15 charles_3983 
>
>> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
>> jadinya metode BK :)
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Hans"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
>> > Hehe... Canda
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "Embah" 
>> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
>> KANAN,
>> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>> >
>> > Contoh yg lain:
>> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
>> buaya
>> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
>> MENINGKATKAN
>> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
>> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
>> naik,
>> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
>> KENA
>> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >  _
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@
>> yahoogroups. com]
>> > On Behalf Of artomoro9
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> > Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hajar kanan mbah...!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>> >
>> > --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant 
>> > menulis:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
>> > Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> > Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > BUMI: Te

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Sudah bantu bid @2700 kenapa tidak dapat... hmfh*

2009/10/15 Kyle Chen 

>
>
> Really? Good then!!!
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:42:56 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
>
>
> *Come here, let me help you kid.* [?]
>
> 2009/10/15 artomoro9 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> masih 30 menit.
>>
>> apapun bisa terjadi.
>>
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway...
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: Jacob Oen 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di
>> 3125?
>>
>> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>>
>> "That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless,
>> because it means everyone can change for the better."
>> --
>> *From: * "Kyle Chen" 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 +
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>> Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL?
>>
>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> --
>> *From: * artomoro9 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> gue yang ketiduran.
>> maaf.
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id > co.id>*menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi
>> masih tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat?
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group
>> --
>> *From: * artomoro9 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit.
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway 4000...!
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: artomoro9 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> in ten minute to hajar kanan.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: It's Elaine! 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?
>>
>> 2009/10/15 charles_3983 
>>
>>> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
>>> jadinya metode BK :)
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Hans"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
>>> > Hehe... Canda
>>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: "Embah" 
>>> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
>>> > To: 
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>> >
>>> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
>>> KANAN,
>>> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>>> >
>>> > Contoh yg lain:
>>> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
>>> buaya
>>> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
>>> MENINGKATKAN
>>> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
>>> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
>>> naik,
>>> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
>>> KENA
>>> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>>> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>>> >
>

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Yo, next time you sell please let us know ya.. hee hee. Damn, I'm so bad
today.*

2009/10/15 It's Elaine! 

> HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?
>
> 2009/10/15 charles_3983 
>
> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
>> jadinya metode BK :)
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hans"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
>> > Hehe... Canda
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "Embah" 
>> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
>> KANAN,
>> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>> >
>> > Contoh yg lain:
>> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
>> buaya
>> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
>> MENINGKATKAN
>> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
>> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
>> naik,
>> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
>> KENA
>> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >   _
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of artomoro9
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hajar kanan mbah...!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>> >
>> > --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant 
>> > menulis:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
>> > Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.obrolanb <http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png>
>> > andar.com/piwbumi.png
>> >
>> > - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored
>> >   line) dan membentuk SubWave 3
>> > - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum)
>> > - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is
>> >   above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal)
>> > - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > + +
>> > + + + + +
>> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> > + + + + +
>> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > (Yahoo! ID required)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   _
>> >
>> > Terhubung
>> > <
>> http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge
>> > r.yahoo.com/pingbox/> langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs
>> pribadi
>> > Anda?
>> > Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Don't you wish to support Artomoro?*

2009/10/15 Metallic Bull 

>
>
> Loser wants to help the winner? Blah!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>
> *Come here, let me help you kid.* [?]
>
> 2009/10/15 artomoro9 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> masih 30 menit.
>>
>> apapun bisa terjadi.
>>
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway...
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, Jacob Oen * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: Jacob Oen 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 3:28 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Apakah Sinarmas (DH) menghalangi iktiar Jenderal untuk menutup Bumi di
>> 3125?
>>
>> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>>
>> "That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless,
>> because it means everyone can change for the better."
>> --
>> *From: *"Kyle Chen" 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:00:00 +
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>> Still DEAL for 3125 GENERAL?
>>
>> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> --
>> *From: *artomoro9 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:56:12 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> gue yang ketiduran.
>> maaf.
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, kokol...@yahoo. co.id > co.id>*menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:52 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Biar telat asal selamat jendral..yang penting cuan...assistennya tadi
>> masih tidur ya jendral? Makanya telat?
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group
>> --
>> *From: *artomoro9 
>> *Date: *Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:48:09 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> telat dikit. gpp kan beda 5 menit.
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway 4000...!
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: artomoro9 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:28 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> in ten minute to hajar kanan.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>> BUMI ontheway
>>
>> --- Pada *Kam, 15/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: It's Elaine! 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 2:21 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?
>>
>> 2009/10/15 charles_3983 
>>
>>> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
>>> jadinya metode BK :)
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Hans"  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
>>> > Hehe... Canda
>>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: "Embah" 
>>> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
>>> > To: 
>>> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>>> >
>>> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
>>> KANAN,
>>> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>>> >
>>> > Contoh yg lain:
>>> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
>>> buaya
>>> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
>>> MENINGKATKAN
>>> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
>>> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
>>> naik,
>>> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
>>> KENA
>>> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>>> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>>> >
>>> >
>

[ob] NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get a
bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your
mind.*

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

?

*usd falls -> loses its base value -> all USD foreign reserves lose their
value -> deflation* -> *China dumps -> USD falls further -> deflation
spiral.*


On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss  wrote:

>
> uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will
> fall? It seems to contradict to each other.
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to get
> a
> > bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your
> > mind.*
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*[?] Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is
weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not.
Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the
world.*

*But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI.  hee hee*

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:13 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Everyone has US Dollar Portfolio.. Prob there will be more increase on the
> share price to make up the losses...
>
> How can we dump US Dollar... Everything still in US Dollar...
>
> -
> Sent from my BlackBerry® Bold™
> powered by INDOSAT
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:04:16 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>
>
>
> ?
>
> *usd falls -> loses its base value -> all USD foreign reserves lose their
> value -> deflation* -> *China dumps -> USD falls further -> deflation
> spiral.*
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss  wrote:
>
>>
>> uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd will
>> fall? It seems to contradict to each other.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to
>> get a
>> > bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of your
>> > mind.*
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
<<330.gif>>

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*Oh I fogot, Idnonesia has huge US debt too ya... good good.*

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, charles_3983 wrote:

> EL,
>
> Indo kan boleh dibilang exposurenya ga segede china kalo USD falls..
> USD reserve indo kan kecil hehehe
> lagian bukannya banyak negara yang udah mulai diversifikasi USD nya...
>
> Terus kalau suatu saat perdagangan global pakai SDR apa problem ini akan
> tetap memukul negara lain atau US saja?
>
> Please commentnya... Thanks b4
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> >
> > *usd falls -> loses its base value -> all USD foreign reserves lose their
> > value -> deflation* -> *China dumps -> USD falls further -> deflation
> > spiral.*
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd
> will
> > > fall? It seems to contradict to each other.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting to
> get
> > > a
> > > > bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of
> your
> > > > mind.*
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*Hey, you're the new kid right? you seems to know me well... who **WERE you?
lolz [?]*

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Kyle Chen  wrote:

>
>
> Yes EL I agree with u, maybe in short term USD will be more weak and weak,
> but I think it just a matter of time EL before they bring up the value
> again, they always doing things like that, controlling the world by playing
> their value of money.
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:26:10 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>
>
>
> *Oh I fogot, Idnonesia has huge US debt too ya... good good.*
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:22 AM, charles_3983 wrote:
>
>> EL,
>>
>> Indo kan boleh dibilang exposurenya ga segede china kalo USD falls..
>> USD reserve indo kan kecil hehehe
>> lagian bukannya banyak negara yang udah mulai diversifikasi USD nya...
>>
>> Terus kalau suatu saat perdagangan global pakai SDR apa problem ini akan
>> tetap memukul negara lain atau US saja?
>>
>> Please commentnya... Thanks b4
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ?
>> >
>> > *usd falls -> loses its base value -> all USD foreign reserves lose
>> their
>> > value -> deflation* -> *China dumps -> USD falls further -> deflation
>> > spiral.*
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:55 AM, cyhss  wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > uhm just wondering, if you believe on deflation, and why thinking usd
>> will
>> > > fall? It seems to contradict to each other.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > *Short term trading is preferred. The deflation spiral is starting
>> to get
>> > > a
>> > > > bit out of control. If you hold USD right now, you gotta be out of
>> your
>> > > > mind.*
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > > + +
>> > > + + + + +
>> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> > > + + + + +
>> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
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Re: [ob] ente jual ane beli...!

[It's Elaine!]

*Elaine tanya lagi, boleh bantu tidak? for OB sake *[?]

2009/10/16 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> ane tetap maju.
>
>
>
> regards,
> A9
> BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>
> --
>  Sikap Peduli Lingkungan?
> 
> Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
>
> 
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Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno. Why
would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If I
have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be
(and my reserve as high as possible aka gold)

US holds the most gold in the world.

Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive
and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though
prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its
rapid losses in value.

You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in your
backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more of
goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency. Again,
only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate.

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto wrote:

> Freak !!!
> USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos.
> u re taunting right ?
>
> ------
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>
>
>
> * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is
> weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not.
> Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the
> world.*
>
>
> *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI.  hee hee*
>
> --
>  New Email names for you!
> <http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/>
> Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail.
> Hurry before someone else does!
>

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for like
50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse than
we thought... :(((*

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor <
indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id> wrote:

>
>
> I beg to differ miss sui,,
> while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing interest
> rates like the OZ CB did..
>
> I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold owners
> any longer now..  Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not entirely
> factual..
>
> I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest
> above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no more
> now..
>
> Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too lately...
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: It's Elaine! 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM
>
>
>
>
> *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno.
> Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If
> I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be
> (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold)
>
> US holds the most gold in the world.
>
> Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more competitive
> and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said, even though
> prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation, because of its
> rapid losses in value.
>
> You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in
> your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more
> of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency.
> Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto  yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>> Freak !!!
>> USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos.
>> u re taunting right ?
>>
>> --
>> *From:* It's Elaine! > gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32
>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>>
>>
>>
>> * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is
>> weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not.
>> Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in the
>> world.*
>>
>>
>> *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI.  hee hee*
>>
>> --
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Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*Start learning mandarin now..*

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, anrusing data  wrote:

>
>
> so, what is your best suggestion then?
>
> 2009/10/18 It's Elaine! 
>
>
>>
>> *that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for
>> like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse
>> than we thought... :(((*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor <
>> indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I beg to differ miss sui,,
>>> while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing
>>> interest rates like the OZ CB did..
>>>
>>> I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold owners
>>> any longer now..  Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not entirely
>>> factual..
>>>
>>> I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest
>>> above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no more
>>> now..
>>>
>>> Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too
>>> lately...
>>>
>>> --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dari: It's Elaine! 
>>> Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno.
>>> Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? If
>>> I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be
>>> (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold)
>>>
>>> US holds the most gold in the world.
>>>
>>> Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more
>>> competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said,
>>> even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation,
>>> because of its rapid losses in value.
>>>
>>> You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in
>>> your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot more
>>> of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency.
>>> Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate.
>>>
>>> Elaine**
>>> *
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto >> yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Freak !!!
>>>> USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos.
>>>> u re taunting right ?
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> *From:* It's Elaine! >>> gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>>> com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is
>>>> weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely not.
>>>> Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in 
>>>> the
>>>> world.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI.  hee hee*
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> New Email names for you!
>>>> <http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/>
>>>> Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and
>>>> @rocketmail.
>>>> Hurry before someone else does!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Akses email lebih cepat.
>>> <http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>
>>> Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.

[It's Elaine!]

*I didn't say this will happen, but it's possible.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

I'm not going to scare anyone or anything, just read it and share your
thinking. Historically speaking, empires like Roman and Arab, even Han of
China and Majaphait, that once the biggest and greatest, did fell
eventually. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

As like a wise man has said 'History repeats itself'..

Elaine*

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, It's Elaine!  wrote:

> *Start learning mandarin now..*
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, anrusing data wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> so, what is your best suggestion then?
>>
>> 2009/10/18 It's Elaine! 
>>
>>
>>>
>>> *that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't been audited for
>>> like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be true, then it's worse
>>> than we thought... :(((*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Contrarian Investor <
>>> indonesianprivateinvest...@yahoo.co.id> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I beg to differ miss sui,,
>>>> while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing
>>>> interest rates like the OZ CB did..
>>>>
>>>> I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold
>>>> owners any longer now..  Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not
>>>> entirely factual..
>>>>
>>>> I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest
>>>> above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no 
>>>> more
>>>> now..
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too
>>>> lately...
>>>>
>>>> --- Pada *Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dari: It's Elaine! 
>>>> Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>>>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd may rebound, but I dunno.
>>>> Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar policy if it only benefits China? 
>>>> If
>>>> I have huge debt, I want the underlying currency to be as low as it can be
>>>> (and my reserve as high as possible aka gold)
>>>>
>>>> US holds the most gold in the world.
>>>>
>>>> Weak dollar will make US exports goods and services cheap, more
>>>> competitive and attractive than to its Asian counterparts'. Like I said,
>>>> even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, it's actually a deflation,
>>>> because of its rapid losses in value.
>>>>
>>>> You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners walking in
>>>> your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot 
>>>> more
>>>> of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong currency.
>>>> Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate.
>>>>
>>>> Elaine**
>>>> *
>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, edwin lumanto >>> yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=edwin_luma...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Freak !!!
>>>>> USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to chaos.
>>>>> u re taunting right ?
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> *From:* It's Elaine! >>>> gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=elainesu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> >
>>>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>>>>> com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Well I don't ask you to dump it, I was just saying that USD is
>>>>> weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would you hold USD? I'm definitely 
>>>>> not.
>>>>> Cheap dollar is a pain for china as they have the biggest USD reserve in 
>>>>> the
>>>>> world.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *But no worry lah, I know you only think about BUMI.  hee hee*
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> New Email names for you!
>>>>> <http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/aa/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/>
>>>>> Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and
>>>>> @rocketmail.
>>>>> Hurry before someone else does!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> <http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>
>>>> Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>

Re: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30

[It's Elaine!]

*Oh, dear.. Art is going contrarian on himself..*..



2009/10/15 It's Elaine! 

> HEY...  IS HE SELLING ALREADY ARTOO?!?!?!?
>
> 2009/10/15 charles_3983 
>
> yang hajar kanan bukan buaya tapi BANTENG KETATON :))
>> jadinya metode BK :)
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hans"  wrote:
>> >
>> > Berhunung yg hajar kanan bukan buaya jadi gak tahu mbah...
>> > Hehe... Canda
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: "Embah" 
>> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:16:10
>> > To: 
>> > Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> > Methode Bill William itu CONSERVATIVE  jadi engga selalu gaya HAJAR
>> KANAN,
>> > dengan konsekwensi  ketinggalan kereta hehehe:
>> >
>> > Contoh yg lain:
>> > - BW menganjurkan area diatas buaya adalah untuk BUY dan area dibawah
>> buaya
>> >   untuk SHORT. Ini belum tentu benar tapi logikanya ada yaitu:
>> MENINGKATKAN
>> >   ODDS agar Trading lebih sering berhasil.
>> > - Jangan Buy jika harga ada DIDALAM mulut buaya meskipun Momentumnya
>> naik,
>> >   ini ternyata benar karena yang beli BUMI di 2900 pada hari Jumat lalu
>> KENA
>> >   DIMAKAN AMA BUAYA (turun ke 2775) , udah tahu ada didalam mulut buaya
>> >   DIHAJAR KANAN juga... hehehe...
>> >
>> >
>> >   _
>> >
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
>> > On Behalf Of artomoro9
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:54 AM
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Subject: Bls: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > hajar kanan mbah...!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > A9
>> > BUMI ontheway 4000..!
>> >
>> > --- Pada Kam, 15/10/09, jsx_consultant 
>> > menulis:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
>> > Judul: [ob] BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Tanggal: Kamis, 15 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > BUMI: Technical 11:30
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.obrolanb <http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwbumi.png>
>> > andar.com/piwbumi.png
>> >
>> > - BUMI sudah menembus garis coklat dan Mulut Buaya (3 colored
>> >   line) dan membentuk SubWave 3
>> > - Momentum is Up (green AO Momentum)
>> > - Buy on LOWER Black Diamond signal as long as BUMI is
>> >   above the alligator (BOW on Buy Fractal)
>> > - Support/Cut Loss: Brown Circle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > + +
>> > + + + + +
>> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> > + + + + +
>> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> > (Yahoo! ID required)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   _
>> >
>> > Terhubung
>> > <
>> http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenge
>> > r.yahoo.com/pingbox/> langsung dengan banyak teman di blog dan situs
>> pribadi
>> > Anda?
>> > Buat Pingbox terbaru Anda sekarang!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I

[It's Elaine!]

*don't say that, they'll hate you..*

2009/10/21 iching_prediction 

> kupret...sesi 2 nanti kayaknya makin turun...beware of the dark lord
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
> >
> >
> > hehehe.
> > kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang.
> >
> > diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre  menulis:
> >
> > Dari: Andre Andre 
> > Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM
> >
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> >
> > Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga?
> >
> > From: artomoro9 
> > To: ob 
> > Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > maaf.
> >
> > maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com 
> menulis:
> >
> > Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com 
> > Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: "artomoro9" 
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM
> >
> > Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ?
> > DEAL nya ga jelas
> > -Original Message-
> > From: artomoro9 
> > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46
> > To: 
> > Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M
> >  I
> >
> >
> > DEAL...!!
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT  menulis:
> >
> > Dari: JT 
> > Judul: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM
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> > Garis merah merupakan area nyopet….,  let see om BD
> > berani masuk daerah itu ngga…,  silahkan
> >  Om…  J
> >
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Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi

[It's Elaine!]

*Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?*

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya  wrote:

>
>
>--
>
> *From: *"Sonny John" 
>
> *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700
>
> *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on
> Bumi and Adaro.
>
> *Stock   GS Rating   Current Px  *
> *12 Month Target Px ** *
>
> *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr **2,850
> **Idr **2,300   *
>
> *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510   **
> Idr **2,800*
>
> **
>
> *Key Summary Points:-*
>
> ·  * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities*
>
> Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil prices
>
> (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87% correlated
>
> since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we
>
> raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and US$110/bbl,
>
> respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September
>
> 24, 2009, “Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2”).
>
> ·  * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing completion*
>
> Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal
>
> coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion. Australia’s
>
> new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in early
>
> 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in
>
> export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers
>
> may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal
>
> supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is likely
>
> to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus.
>
> ·  * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral stance*
>
> Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher thermal
>
> coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply availability
>
> of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently
> thermal
>
> coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is below
> the
>
> historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an annual
>
> average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in
> 2009E
>
> to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a neutral
> stance.
>
> ·  * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi*
>
> Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong earnings
>
> growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we rate
>
> Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt
> load
>
> and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at Neutral.
>
> ·  * **Risks*
>
> Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the
>
> global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion) causing
>
> coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we expect;
>
> downside risks include China’s small mines restarting operations.
>
>- *Latest Research*
>
>  <>
>
> Goldman, Sachs & Co. Member SIPC/NASD.
>
>
>
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> 

Re: [ob] FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi

[It's Elaine!]

*I think so. Selling up to 2800? [?]*

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM, troyan  wrote:

> itu karena dia mau jualan ADRO yang udah beli dr 3 bulan lalu dan mau beli
> BUMI
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *Wow it took 3 months for this one to be avail to public?*
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sanjaya  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > > *From: *"Sonny John" 
> > >
> > > *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:17:40 +0700
> > >
> > > *Subject: *FW: Goldman: Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please see latest GS research on ASEAN Metals and Mining (Coal), and on
> > > Bumi and Adaro.
> > >
> > > *Stock   GS Rating   Current Px
>  *
> > > *12 Month Target Px ** *
> > >
> > > *Bumi Resources (BUMI.IJ)**Sell**Idr
> **2,850
> > > **Idr **2,300   *
> > >
> > > *Adaro (ADRO.IJ) **Buy **Idr **1,510
> **
> > > Idr **2,800*
> > >
> > > **
> > >
> > > *Key Summary Points:-*
> > >
> > > ·  * **Rising oil prices are positive for coal equities*
> > >
> > > Historically, thermal coal prices have been highly correlated to oil
> prices
> > >
> > > (88% over the past 10 years), and so have coal stock prices (87%
> correlated
> > >
> > > since 2003). We are positive on the outlook for oil, and last month we
> > >
> > > raised our 2010E and 2011E oil price forecasts to US$90/bbl and
> US$110/bbl,
> > >
> > > respectively, on stronger demand projections (our report from September
> > >
> > > 24, 2009, "Global: Energy: Oil—Recovery and relapse, v2").
> > >
> > > ·  * **No major supply destruction, some projects nearing
> completion*
> > >
> > > Despite the downturn, there has not been any major reduction in thermal
> > >
> > > coal capex and in fact several projects are nearing completion.
> Australia's
> > >
> > > new third coal port terminal (NCIG) is expected to ship first coal in
> early
> > >
> > > 2010E, with a full ramp-up by 2011 (representing a 30% expansion in
> > >
> > > export capacity). Meanwhile, we estimate that Indonesian coal producers
> > >
> > > may increase capacity by 40% by year-end 2010E. Our global thermal coal
> > >
> > > supply-demand estimates indicate that the supply surplus in 2009E is
> likely
> > >
> > > to narrow in 2010E due to stronger demand, but it is still in surplus.
> > >
> > > ·  * **Coal price upcycle may lag oil, initiate with neutral
> stance*
> > >
> > > Given our positive view on oil prices, we are forecasting higher
> thermal
> > >
> > > coal prices over 2009E-2011E. However, with a stronger supply
> availability
> > >
> > > of coal, we believe that the coal price cycle may lag oil. Currently
> > > thermal
> > >
> > > coal prices are 20% of oil on an energy-equivalent basis, which is
> below
> > > the
> > >
> > > historical average of 26% (the historical range is 14%-51%). On an
> annual
> > >
> > > average basis we see coal as a percentage of oil declining from 25% in
> > > 2009E
> > >
> > > to 17% in 2011E. We are initiating coverage on the sector with a
> neutral
> > > stance.
> > >
> > > ·  * **Stock selective approach; Buy Adaro, Sell Bumi*
> > >
> > > Adaro is our top pick, given attractive valuations and a strong
> earnings
> > >
> > > growth trend as its low-priced legacy contracts expire. Meanwhile, we
> rate
> > >
> > > Bumi Resources as Sell due to rising capital costs, its increasing debt
> > > load
> > >
> > > and declining ROIC. We initiate on Straits Asia and Bukit Asam at
> Neutral.
> > >
> > > ·  * **Risks*
> > >
> > > Upside risks to our views and price targets include a disruption in the
> > >
> > > global coal supply chain (e.g., from bad weather, port congestion)
> causing
> > >
> > > coal prices to spike or China coal demand being stronger than we
> 

Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I

[It's Elaine!]

*Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general
Artomoro9.*
*
*

   - "Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and all
   orders changed to sell orders"
   - "Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets
   them"
   - "In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters"
   - "Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he poops
   stocks. Plus Warrants"


I love U ART.


2009/10/21 Jacob Oen 

>
>
> I.
> Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai.
>
> Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas.
>
> Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada
> BUMI.
>
> II.
> Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang.
>
> Maksud hati "stay-away" dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham itu
> yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis).
>
> Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta.
>
> Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian).
>
> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
> "That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless,
> because it means everyone can change for the better."
> --
> *From: * artomoro9 
> *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
>
>
> ijoo dah.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: bad_boy 
> Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>
> JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp...
> tunggu perintah komandan
> tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah
>
> --- In 
> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> artomoro9  wrote:
> >
> >
> > hehehe.
> > kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang.
> >
> > diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre  menulis:
> >
> > Dari: Andre Andre 
> > Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: 
> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga?
> >
> > From: artomoro9 
> > To: ob 
> > http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> > maaf.
> >
> > maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com 
> menulis:
> >
> > Dari: ruzli...@gmail. com 
> > Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: "artomoro9" 
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:20 AM
> >
> > Maksudnya mau dibawa ke garis merah atau mau ikut beli di garis merah ?
> > DEAL nya ga jelas
> > -Original Message-
> > From: artomoro9 
> > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:16:46
> > To: 
> > Subject: Bls: [ob] B U M
> >  I
> >
> >
> > DEAL...!!
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > A9
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, JT  menulis:
> >
> > Dari: JT 
> > Judul: [ob] B U M I
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 10:52 AM
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Garis merah merupakan area nyopet….,  let see om BD
> > berani masuk daerah itu ngga…,  silahkan
> >  Om…  J
> >
> >  Â
> >
> > JT
> >
> >  Â
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > Â  Â  Â  Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.. Undang teman
> dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
> http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
> >
> >
> > Akses email lebih cepat.
> >  Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru
> yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)
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> >   Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi!
> Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba!
> http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
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Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I

[It's Elaine!]

*NO. [?]*

2009/10/21 Wong Cilik 

>
>
> We love u too EL,
> U re so beautiful,
> U re so smart,
> U re also can build and prop up prices
> U have mega super duper unlimited funds
>
> Please pump some more money to increase our OB family's wealth...
>
> [?][?][?]
>
> 2009/10/21 It's Elaine! 
>
>
>>
>> *Oh dear don't be so cynical to him, he did a good job. We [?] general
>> Artomoro9.*
>> *
>> *
>>
>>- "Artomoro never shorts, he just stares at the exchange boards and
>>all orders changed to sell orders"
>>- "Only Artomoro can give bid to buy AAPL at IDX on Sunday, and gets
>>them"
>>- "In Artomoro's point of view, Warren Buffett is a changcuters"
>>- "Artomoro never really have to buy stocks, coz every morning he
>>poops stocks. Plus Warrants"
>>
>>
>> I love U ART.
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/21 Jacob Oen 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I.
>>> Maksud hati memeluk gunung apa daya tangan tak sampai.
>>>
>>> Maksud hati membuat BUMI IJO apa daya kemampuan terbatas.
>>>
>>> Maksud hati menjual kepercayaan apa daya banyak yang tidak percaya pada
>>> BUMI.
>>>
>>> II.
>>> Maksud hati mencari Untung apa daya justru rugi yang didulang.
>>>
>>> Maksud hati "stay-away" dari BG stocks apa daya setiap hari saham-saham
>>> itu yang dibicarakan di BEI (OB milis).
>>>
>>> Maksud hati masuk ke sektor Riil apa daya peluang belum tercipta.
>>>
>>> Hehehesekedar menghibur diri dengan Prosa. (sudah cut-loss sebagian).
>>>
>>> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>>> "That everything changes is more hopeful than hopeless,
>>> because it means everyone can change for the better."
>>> --
>>> *From: * artomoro9 
>>> *Date: *Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:55:49 +0800 (SGT)
>>> *To: *
>>>  *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
>>>
>>>
>>> ijoo dah.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> A9
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Pada *Rab, 21/10/09, bad_boy * menulis:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dari: bad_boy 
>>> Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
>>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:46 AM
>>>
>>> JENDRALpasukan berani mati siyaaappp...
>>> tunggu perintah komandan
>>> tapi peluru dah abis, pake petasan cabe rawit ajah yah
>>>
>>> --- In 
>>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>,
>>> artomoro9  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hehehe.
>>> > kalo ane bilang DEAL ijo, ntar ente kaga dapat barang.
>>> >
>>> > diemin aja dulu. perhatikan terus.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > regards,
>>> >
>>> > A9
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, Andre Andre  menulis:
>>> >
>>> > Dari: Andre Andre 
>>> > Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
>>> > Kepada: 
>>> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>> > Tanggal: Rabu, 21 Oktober, 2009, 11:27 AM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Om arto kasih bumi ijo hari ini deal ga?
>>> >
>>> > From: artomoro9 
>>> > To: ob 
>>> > http://mc/compose?to=obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com>
>>> >
>>> > Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 11:22:07 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] B U M I
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Â
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > maaf.
>>> >
>>> > maksudnya gak dikasih di bawah garis itu.
>>> >
>>> > regards,
>>> >
>>> > A9
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- Pada Rab, 21/10/09, ruzli...@gmail. com 
>>> menulis:
>>> >
>>> > Dari: ruzli...@g

Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal

[It's Elaine!]

*Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for
discount.

Elaine*

2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra 

> Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@..atau ke m457...@.?
> Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget..
> Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani banyak
> buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe..
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz®  wrote:
> >
> > salam kenal juga :)
> > semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini.
> >
> > Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt
> alamat,
> > no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@...
> >
> > hehehe...
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra 
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2
> biar
> > > trading jadi lebih enjoy..
> > > Cheerss..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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>

Re: [ob] D O W

[It's Elaine!]

*It's better to say something -even if it misses- than not having a gut to
say anything at all, mr commentator.*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, qasuari  wrote:

>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *It's not yet, but It WILL be. I don't think nobody will be worried with
> > this, in fact most will be happy to see a crash (like me doh) lolz..
> >
> >
> >
> > Elaine**
>
> hehehe TUL EL, as also you said, OIL would go to $30/ barrel when the price
> at $50/$60 .??? qeqeqeq.
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
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>

Re: [ob] D O W

[It's Elaine!]

*3 months, since end of July. Thought u knew.*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:19 AM, JT  wrote:

>
>
>  Sounds desperate to me … lolz…
>
>
>
> Btw, how long have you been waiting for the correction, EL? …, Hmmm, don’t
> worry EL, you’ll get it soon…, sabar ya, Good Trade Comes to Those Who
> Wait…, hehehe…..
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine!
> *Sent:* 22 Oktober 2009 9:12
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] D O W
>
>
>
>
>
> *It's not yet, but It WILL be. I don't think nobody will be worried with
> this, in fact most will be happy to see a crash (like me doh) lolz..
>
>
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:56 AM, JT  wrote:
>
>
>
> Do not worry too much, just a normal pull back.  Nothing serious so far.
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*Ok, first I have some questions:
*

   1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?*
   2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why not
   others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?*
   3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over
   bought? support? resistance? blah blah
   *
   4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi future
   cash flow?*
   5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the floating
   phantom shares?
   *
   6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the inflation
   of the USD today?
   *

*Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above
questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away.

*


2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra 

> Elaine, how about BUMI? i bought it yesterday.It's discount already,right?
> could u please sharing ur opinion ?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for
> > discount.
> >
> > Elaine*
> >
> > 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra 
> >
> > > Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@... ke m457...@?
> > > Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget..
> > > Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani
> banyak
> > > buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe..
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz®  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > salam kenal juga :)
> > > > semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini.
> > > >
> > > > Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt
> > > alamat,
> > > > no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtrader@
> > > >
> > > > hehehe...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra 
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para
> senior2
> > > biar
> > > > > trading jadi lebih enjoy..
> > > > > Cheerss..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

[It's Elaine!]

*This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been going
nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and bonds.
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah wrote:

>
> More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
>
>
> Published: October 22, 2009
>
>
> According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
> $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
> funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
> game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
> that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
> recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering
>
> and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that "big round number" might
> entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of this
> year.
>
> Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
> retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
> The market continues to feed on its own momentum.
>
> "I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
> sidelines waiting for the correction to come," said Peter Schwartz,
> principal at Gregory J. Schwartz & Co. "But as time goes by and we haven't
> had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
> pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' "
>
> According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies and
> oversees ICI activities
> As this link shows :
> http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09
>
>
> There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
> less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
> and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
> stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
> were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
> bonds, CDs and Gold
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal

[It's Elaine!]

*I have no target at this moment, perhaps JT or any techies can help you.*

2009/10/22 Kaisar 

>
>
> Miss Elaine,
>
> Your command is loud and clear. Do you have any target number for IHSG?
> And what stocks you will pick when the time has come?
>
> Kaisar.
>
>  ------
> *From:* It's Elaine! 
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, October 22, 2009 9:14:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal
>
>
>
> *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for
> discount.
>
> Elaine*
>
> 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra 
> >
>
>> Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@.. atau ke m457...@ .?
>> Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget..
>> Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani
>> banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe. .
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> boyz®  wrote:
>> >
>> > salam kenal juga :)
>> > semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini.
>> >
>> > Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt
>> alamat,
>> > no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@.. .
>> >
>> > hehehe...
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra 
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2
>> biar
>> > > trading jadi lebih enjoy..
>> > > Cheerss..
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  - - --
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

[It's Elaine!]

*Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..

*

   - *Why investor buy stocks?*


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy
> stocks
>
>
>
> *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
> going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
> bonds.
> *
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah wrote:
>
>>
>> More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
>>
>>
>> Published: October 22, 2009
>>
>>
>> According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
>> $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
>> funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
>> game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
>> that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
>> recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering
>>
>> and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that "big round number"
>> might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
>> this year.
>>
>> Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
>> retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
>> The market continues to feed on its own momentum.
>>
>> "I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
>> sidelines waiting for the correction to come," said Peter Schwartz,
>> principal at Gregory J. Schwartz & Co. "But as time goes by and we haven't
>> had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
>> pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' "
>>
>> According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
>> and oversees ICI activities
>> As this link shows :
>> http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09
>>
>>
>> There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds collecting
>> less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are just scared
>> and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is to buy when
>> stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on equities, which
>> were selling at generational low price ratios, investors instead piled into
>> bonds, CDs and Gold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*I'm not trying to scare anyone. Trading is better for now, and to trade you
need good understanding of TA, that's all I can say.* ^_^

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:30 AM, qasuari  wrote:

>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *Ok, first I have some questions:
> > *
> >
> >1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?*
> >2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why not
> >others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?*
> >3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over
> >bought? support? resistance? blah blah
> >*
> >4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi future
> >cash flow?*
> >5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the floating
> >phantom shares?
> >*
> >6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the
> inflation
> >of the USD today?
> >*
> >
> > *Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above
> > questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away.
> >
> > *
> >
>
> WOOOW..you scare me out of my wits EL ..bb...
>
>
>
>
> 
>
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>
>
>

Re: [ob] D O W ......ehh sorry .....B O W ...!!!

[It's Elaine!]

*I'll take that chance. ^_^ Anyway, what will you buy, dear?*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:58 AM, qasuari  wrote:

> anybody wanna cheap stock ??? BUY (BOW) now or you may lose ur chance ...
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
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>

Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal --@ Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*I gave up on commods 3 months ago. Enough for me. ^_^ HEY, you've made huge
profit already, enjoy it.
*
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Constantine  wrote:

>
>
> And I need your opinion if I buy my portofolio last December 2008 and still
> hold it until now.
> Should I sell it all?Or Hold it? Most of  my portofolio in commodities...
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
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Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks

[It's Elaine!]

*I see you focus on microeconomic which is good for stockpicking, I put more
emphasis on the macro such as currency, supply-demand, money flow and others
like insiders, etc, coz even good ones like Astras can drop like shit when
the money's out. [?]*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Bagus Putra Perdana <
disclosure@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> because (or when) it offers higher yield (after risk adjustment) compares
> to other asset classes.
>
> to measure our yield on investment, we might have our own favorite
> preferences.
>
> i personally prefer :
>
> a. Comparable or higher sustainable free cash flow yield i may expect from
> my stock 3-5 years period Vs Bond.
> b. Understated Hard Assets sitting on the balance, Ripe for acquisition or
> un-locking scenario.
> c. Solid Bussiness model that can counter inflationary effect (passing
> through the inflatianary pressures to their consumers without losing the
> sales volume and growth), because virtually a good and solid stock is the
> only effective real-hedge against inflation. because they can adjust prices
> of their sales to go in line with inflation, hence higher net income, hence
> higher real measure income.
>
>
> how bout u El? i have to say ive been curious, pardon my question,  if u
> were sitting on the hat of an investor, what traits would u prefer of ur
> holdings/ur stocks? ^_^
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:24 AM, It's Elaine! wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *Actually I don't know that, yet. Ok, first let me ask you..
>>
>> *
>>
>>- *Why investor buy stocks?*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and waiting to get back in...at a discount. Right, El?
>>>
>>> Sent from my computer of course!
>>> --
>>> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
>>> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:17:20 +0700
>>> *To: *
>>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to
>>> buy stocks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *This should answer Boyz' question to me days ago. The money has been
>>> going nowhere, stucks on the 'safest' instruments such as CDs, gold and
>>> bonds.
>>> *
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:10 AM, dunia ini indah 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> More than $3 Trillion Waiting on the Sidelines to buy stocks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Published: October 22, 2009
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to some estimates, investors have parked more than
>>>> $3,000,000,000,000.00 - that's three trillion dollars - in money market
>>>> funds waiting for the markets to calm down before jumping back into the
>>>> game. Of course, some make the argument that if things return to normal,
>>>> that tremendous liquidity would come roaring back in, making a faster
>>>> recovery possible. Still, by recent standards, that amount is staggering
>>>>
>>>> and local investment adviser Todd Stoner said that "big round number"
>>>> might entice investors off the sidelines and back into the market end of
>>>> this year.
>>>>
>>>> Investors have long been bracing for a significant pullback. But any
>>>> retreats in stocks have been modest -- less than 10 percent -- and brief.
>>>> The market continues to feed on its own momentum.
>>>>
>>>> "I think what's happened is you had all these people sitting on the
>>>> sidelines waiting for the correction to come," said Peter Schwartz,
>>>> principal at Gregory J. Schwartz & Co. "But as time goes by and we haven't
>>>> had any major pullbacks, these people sitting on the sidelines are finally
>>>> pulling the trigger, saying, 'I can't wait any longer.' "
>>>>
>>>> According to The Institute's Board of Governors sets Institute policies
>>>> and oversees ICI activities
>>>> As this link shows :
>>>> http://www.ici.org/research/stats/mmf/mm_09_24_09
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is about $3.5 to 4 Trillion sitting in money market funds
>>>> collecting less than 1% in interest. This is as of a month ago. People are
>>>> just scared and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, which is 
>>>> to
>>>> buy when stocks fall. Instead of loading up in the last few months on
>>>> equities, which were selling at generational low price ratios, investors
>>>> instead piled into bonds, CDs and Gold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> + +
>>>> + + + + +
>>>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>>> + + + + +
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
> complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
> everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
> we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
> to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected...The test of all
> knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
> - Richard Feynman
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [ob] Re: BUMI--@ Elaine

[It's Elaine!]

*TA? okay, Boyz, she's yours [?]*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM, sheila.tjandra
wrote:

>
>
> Wow..what a scary questions,two thumbs up for u..
> I'm a new bie technicalist n that's why i want to learn from master
> technicalist in OB.
> Why BUMI? already at support i think..almost all trader have BUMI in their
> portfolio.
> About Fundamental, no..no..i dont know,Need to learn more from u.
>
> Regards,
> ST
>
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > *Ok, first I have some questions:
> > > *
> > >
> > >1. *are you a follower, a Technicalist, Fundamentalist?*
> > >2. *Why do you buy BUMI? Is it because you like coal industry? why
> not
> > >others like Adaro or Bukit Asam?*
> > >3. *Do you know what MA cross is? distribution? accumulation? over
> > >bought? support? resistance? blah blah
> > >*
> > >4. *Do you know how far does 19% CIC int rate will affect bumi
> future
> > >cash flow?*
> > >5. *Do you aware of fund flow in bumi? The reverse repos? the
> floating
> > >phantom shares?
> > >*
> > >6. *BUMI financial statement is in USD, do you aware with the
> inflation
> > >of the USD today?
> > >*
> > >
> > > *Please answer, and I will give you appropriate opinion, but if above
> > > questions make you dizzy then I suggest u stay away.
> > >
> > > *
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ob] Re: Salam Kenal

[It's Elaine!]

*Hope u're ok, Sheila.[?]

Elaine*

2009/10/22 It's Elaine! 

> *Sheila I SUGGEST YOU STAY AWAY FROM THE MARKET FOR NOW. Always look for
> discount.
>
> Elaine*
>
> 2009/10/22 sheila.tjandra 
>
> Hihi..kirim data2 pribadinya ke jsxtra...@..atau ke m457...@.?
>> Thanks banget untuk semua anggota milis yang welcome banget..
>> Ok d, hari ini sudah maju tak gentar ke medan perang karena ditemani
>> banyak buaya,musuh pasti takut..hehehe..
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz®  wrote:
>> >
>> > salam kenal juga :)
>> > semoga bisa lebih enjoy disini.
>> >
>> > Untuk keperluan database milis, sebaiknya lengkapi data2 pribadi spt
>> alamat,
>> > no hape, dan foto terbaru. harap kirim secepatnya ke jsxtra...@...
>> >
>> > hehehe...
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/10/21 Sheila Tjandra 
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hi..Salam kenal semuanya..Moga2 bisa dapat bimbingan dari para senior2
>> biar
>> > > trading jadi lebih enjoy..
>> > > Cheerss..
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....

[It's Elaine!]

*Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 wrote:

> ini keterlaluan...
> harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali...
> it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate
> HAJAR
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
> wrote:
> >
> > ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET 
> >
> > INI TAL BANGET 
> >
> > SERBU 
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat..
> > >
> > > 2009/10/22 tora 
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mbah gimana nih...
> > > >
> > > > your command, please
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....

[It's Elaine!]

*Yeah, I bought a chicken pizza and a milkshake for lunch today.*

2009/10/22 

>
>
> U bought anything today EL?
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:10:47 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET
>
>
>
> *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.*
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 wrote:
>
>> ini keterlaluan...
>> harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali...
>> it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate
>> HAJAR
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET 
>> >
>> > INI TAL BANGET 
>> >
>> > SERBU 
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat..
>> > >
>> > > 2009/10/22 tora 
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Mbah gimana nih...
>> > > >
>> > > > your command, please
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET....

[It's Elaine!]

*The plan is to make money without money. Ah, nevermind. Just trade what you
believe lah.. [?]*

2009/10/22 

>
>
>
> Ms, bearish or bullish plan?
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
> Teruuusss...!
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:10:47 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Re: Etrading Running Rate LELET
>
>
>
> *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.*
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 wrote:
>
>> ini keterlaluan...
>> harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali...
>> it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate
>> HAJAR
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET 
>> >
>> > INI TAL BANGET 
>> >
>> > SERBU 
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat..
>> > >
>> > > 2009/10/22 tora 
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Mbah gimana nih...
>> > > >
>> > > > your command, please
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
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Re: [ob] Re: BNBR > Miss EL

[It's Elaine!]

*Yeah, 5 l...@80. Dec 09 we sell all and donate to Embah.*



On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:42 PM, phoenix.siver wrote:

>
> Miss EL,
>
> How is the BNBR donation prog. is it still inline. Can u share some clues??
>
> Thanks
>
> Rgds,
> Vera
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "It's Elaine!" 
> wrote:
> >
> > *Someone has a plan on B7, if I remember correctly.*
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:09 PM, charles_3983 wrote:
> >
> > > ini keterlaluan...
> > > harga dijatohin dengan cepat sekali...
> > > it looks like someone do it intentionally to accumulate
> > > HAJAR
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ISP nya diganggu supaya LELET 
> > > >
> > > > INI TAL BANGET 
> > > >
> > > > SERBU 
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wedew telat deh, pasang di 2600 gak dapat..
> > > > >
> > > > > 2009/10/22 tora 
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah gimana nih...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > your command, please
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [ob] Last gebukan

[It's Elaine!]

*Institusi semua sell, JT & Arto buy? wow.. very brave men.*

2009/10/22 JT 

>
>
>  Hah, close 2650, gut lak everyone.. banyak2 berdoalah malam ini...,
> hehehe
>
>
>
> Ngupi-ngupi duluuu
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983
> Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:57
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ob] Last gebukan
>
>
>
> hehehe ok d Prof..
>
>
>
> ane coba tawar 1 point deh...
>
> kalo dapet ya bagus...
>
> ga dapet berarto BD ga sayang ama ane :)) wakakkaa
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
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> > Masih bisa..., kalo mau jebol dari tadi aja lah..., Bungkusss...
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> > Last gebukan today is coming?
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> > Prof JT, copet lagi?
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Re: [ob] Last gebukan

[It's Elaine!]

*Will you tell us when you get out? either tp or cl.*

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM, JT™  wrote:

>
>
> Institusi Sell apa SHORT? Hehe
>
> Well, ini bukan masalah brave-brave'an lah.., it's just about trading, I
> calculate and get in, if I'am wrong, I get out..., as simple as
> that, you see, we are superior when it comes to SPEED.., we can always
> get out at once.., beda dgn institusi seperti kamu EL.., exit is a big
> problem for you.. Hehe..
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
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> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:06:12 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Last gebukan
>
> *Institusi semua sell, JT & Arto buy? wow.. very brave men.*
>
> 2009/10/22 JT 
>
>>
>>
>>  Hah, close 2650, gut lak everyone.. banyak2 berdoalah malam ini...,
>> hehehe
>>
>>
>>
>> Ngupi-ngupi duluuu
>>
>>
>>
>> JT
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of charles_3983
>> Sent: 22 Oktober 2009 15:57
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [ob] Last gebukan
>>
>>
>>
>> hehehe ok d Prof..
>>
>>
>>
>> ane coba tawar 1 point deh...
>>
>> kalo dapet ya bagus...
>>
>> ga dapet berarto BD ga sayang ama ane :)) wakakkaa
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Masih bisa..., kalo mau jebol dari tadi aja lah..., Bungkusss...
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>> > -Original Message-
>>
>> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
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>>
>> > On Behalf Of charles_3983
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>>
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>>
>> > Last gebukan today is coming?
>>
>> > Prof JT, copet lagi?
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[ob] Email Delivery: Digest

[It's Elaine!]

*I'm switching to daily digest for now, so I may not reply quicky. Good luck
with your trades.*

[ob] BOYZ!

[It's Elaine!]

*Is it going to happen today?*

Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)

[It's Elaine!]

*Adaro is much better in management, quality of products, output, and GCG.*

2009/10/23 boyz® 

>
>
> Go go go ...
>
> We stand behind you ...
> in vertical horizon :D
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> 2009/10/23 artomoro9 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> cuman di samperin tapi belom di jebolin.
>>
>> giliran ane nih sekarang..
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>>
>>
>> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, Bayu Kusuma 
>> *menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: Bayu Kusuma 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:42 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  jendral...lg disamperin tuh 2575
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 10/22/09, artomoro9 * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: artomoro9 
>> Subject: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:24 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cuman kalo barikade ane 2575 ini hari jebol, ane short sekalian ke 1700.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>>
>>
>> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® * menulis:
>>
>>
>> Dari: boyz® 
>> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
>> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:19 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jenderal
>> Ane juga liat BUMI ada potensi ke 4000 in longer term...
>> Tapi sekarang kita bicara ttg cycle (scoope) yg lebih kecil,
>>
>> Good luck, bro.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/10/23 artomoro9 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> insting ane akan lewat di atas itu.
>>> tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah .
>>> target SELL ane masih di 4000.
>>> Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih...
>>> tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> A9
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)

[It's Elaine!]

*http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg169316.html

Ho ho.. we have something in common.*..

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM, boyz®  wrote:

>
>
> 2009/10/23 It's Elaine! 
>
>>
>>
>> *Adaro is much better in management, quality of products, output, and
>> GCG.*
>>
>>
>
> Sure honey...
> http://www.mail-archive.com/obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com/msg175543.html
>
> bisa jadi ADRO Better,
> but right now we talk about market sentimen, BUMI masih key psycho market
> di IDX.
>
> Kemarin jendral Arto ga mau diajak main ke ADRO.
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 
>

Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)

[It's Elaine!]

*Adaro > BUMI.*

2009/10/23 Kabu Nusi 

>
>
>
> Congrats General
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, artomoro9 * wrote:
>
>
> From: artomoro9 
> Subject: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> To: "ob" 
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:36 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM
>
> alhamdulillah.
>
> gak jadi cut loss di 2575.
>
> thanks GOD.
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM
>
>
> insting ane akan lewat di atas itu.
>
> tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah .
>
> target SELL ane masih di 4000.
>
> Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih...
>
> tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: boyz® 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mbah...simple aja nih...
>> kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini
>> di 2750..*
>> Let's see sampai atau tidak
>>
>
>
>
> Gimana Jend. Arto?  DEAL?
> Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth.
> master I-ching udah kasih sinyal :
>
> 2009/10/23 iching_prediction 
>> today, sell on strength, naik trus turun
>>
>
>
> Good Luck, brothers...
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> 
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>
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>
> 
>

Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)

[It's Elaine!]

*Adaro +6.5%
Bumi +3.7%

Ok, ok.. you're right then. lolz..*

2009/10/23 Bozz Traders 

>
>
>  *You are WRONG, Adro < Bumi is right !!!*
>
> * *
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine!
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2009 3:54 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
>
>
>
>
>
> *Adaro > BUMI.*
>
> 2009/10/23 Kabu Nusi 
>
>
>
>
> Congrats General
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/23/09, artomoro9 * wrote:
>
>
> From: artomoro9 
> Subject: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> To: "ob" 
> Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 8:36 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM
>
> alhamdulillah.
>
> gak jadi cut loss di 2575.
>
> thanks GOD.
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM
>
>
> insting ane akan lewat di atas itu.
>
> tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah .
>
> target SELL ane masih di 4000.
>
> Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih...
>
> tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: boyz® 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy  wrote:
>
>
>
> Mbah...simple aja nih...
>
> kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini
> di 2750..*
>
> Let's see sampai atau tidak
>
>
>
>   Gimana Jend. Arto?  DEAL?
> Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth.
> master I-ching udah kasih sinyal :
>
> 2009/10/23 iching_prediction 
> today, sell on strength, naik trus turun
>
>
>
> Good Luck, brothers...
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
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Re: [ob] milis ob

[It's Elaine!]

*Wait, are you still confident with 4000? I mean, REALLY confident?*

2009/10/23 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> ini emang milis paling dahsyat.
>
> semua kumpul disini.
>
> salute ama embah yg udah bikin  ini milis.
> embah emang sengaja mengundang semua INFORMAN dan inforwoman MUncul di
> sini, dengan semua kepentingannya.
>
> pokoke ini milis paling MAknyuzz..
>
>
> havaaniceweekend..!
>
> regards,
> A9
>
> --
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> 
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>
> 

Re: [ob] milis ob

[It's Elaine!]

*You work at the exchange? wow, cool.. no wonder you have 1st class info.*

2009/10/23 artomoro9 

>
>
>  yup.
>
> ngopi ngopi dulu yuk. ane tungguin di starbuck BEI. sekarang ya.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, It's Elaine! * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: It's Elaine! 
> Judul: Re: [ob] milis ob
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 4:45 PM
>
>
>
> *Wait, are you still confident with 4000? I mean, REALLY confident?*
>
> 2009/10/23 artomoro9 
> http://mc/compose?to=artomo...@yahoo.co.id>
> >
>
>>
>>
>>
>> ini emang milis paling dahsyat.
>>
>> semua kumpul disini.
>>
>> salute ama embah yg udah bikin  ini milis.
>> embah emang sengaja mengundang semua INFORMAN dan inforwoman MUncul di
>> sini, dengan semua kepentingannya.
>>
>> pokoke ini milis paling MAknyuzz..
>>
>>
>> havaaniceweekend..!
>>
>> regards,
>> A9
>>
>> --
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>> <http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/pingbox/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
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>

Re: [ob] US declares swine flu 'emergency'

[It's Elaine!]

*Most swine flu victims are children and young adults. For parents I suggest
to always keep an eye on your children, if they catch flu even it's mild,
please.. PLEASE take them to the doctor immediately and ask for
nasopharyngeal lab test, it's better safe than sorry.

Let's live a healthy life. Drink a lot of water, consume Vitamin C, have
enough rest and expose yourself under the sun in the morning.
*
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:34 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> New resurgence or media play? Tp di jepang mmg membesar lg ya kasusnya pak
> Yuta? Kowai...
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
> --
> *From: * YUTA 
> *Date: *Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:53:40 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *[ob] US declares swine flu 'emergency'
>
>
>
> Saturday, 24 October 2009 17:36 UK
>
> US declares swine flu 'emergency'
> US President Barack Obama has declared swine flu a national emergency.
>
> The White House said the president signed the proclamation concerning
> the 2009 H1N1 outbreak on Friday evening.
> It increases the ability of treatment facilities to handle a surge in
> H1N1 patients by easing the implementation of emergency plans.
> Last week US officials said swine flu activity was widespread in 46
> states. More than 1,000 US deaths have been linked to the virus.
> Health officials say the infections are already comparable to peak
> season flu levels.
>
> Vaccine warning
> US officials said the president's declaration was similar to ones
> issued before hurricanes make landfall.
> It allows authorities to bypass certain federal requirements in order
> to deal more effectively with emergencies.
> The aim of the directive is to remove bureaucratic hurdles, allowing
> sick patients to receive treatment more quickly and giving health-care
> providers more flexibility in providing it.
> Paperwork on patients can be reduced and additional health centres set
> up outside hospitals to care for the sick.
> In his proclamation statement, Mr Obama says the 2009 H1N1 pandemic
> "continues to evolve".
> "The rates of illness continue to rise rapidly within many communities
> across the nation, and the potential exists for the pandemic to
> overburden health care resources in some localities."
> He said the US had already taken "proactive steps" by implementing
> public health measures and developing an effective swine flu vaccine.
> However, the government has admitted there are delays in the delivery
> of vaccines.
> It had hoped to roll out 120 million doses by mid-October.
> It now hopes for about 50 million by mid-November and 150 million in
> December.
> Dr Thomas Frieden, of the US Centers for Disease Control and
> Prevention (CDC), said on Friday: "We are nowhere near where we
> thought we'd be by now."
> Given the shortfall, New York State on Friday stayed a directive
> ordering health care staff to be inoculated or risk losing their jobs.
> The CDC says widespread influenza activity in 46 states is
> "unprecedented during seasonal flu".
> It said the hospitalisation rates for laboratory-confirmed swine flu
> were still climbing.
> Although figures are hard to verify, it is thought H1N1 has
> hospitalised about 20,000 people in the US.
> Visits to the doctor for influenza-like illnesses were also much
> higher than expected for the time of year, the CDC said.
> The seasonal flu peak is usually between late November and early March.
> Children and young adults have been among the hardest hit by H1N1.
> Almost 100 of the deaths have been children.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8324070.stm
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] Re: Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!!

[It's Elaine!]

*Asshole.*

2009/10/26 Muhamad Rojak 

> Gw nyangkut di Bumi? For your information, gw udah collect Bumi di
> price 700-an, trus begitu ada sinyal naek, gw buy lagi di 900-an dan
> 1200-an. Sebagian udah gw jual di 3000-an, sebagian masih gw keep.
> Nah, kalo ITMG emang udah gw jual semua. Udah profit gede dapet
> deviden plus capital gain (buy di 23.000-an, sell di 24.000-an)
> ngapain juga gw keep lagi. Kaaacciiaann deh lu... :-D
>
> Pada tanggal 26/10/09, EB™  menulis:
> > Nyangkut berat kali aja prof, Bumi memang banyak bikin orang cuan tapi
> > kayaknya lebih banyak bikin orang nyangkut terlilit-lilit.hehehehhe
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > EB™
> >
> > Dikirim oleh kurir yang bernama Blackberry melalui jaringan XL yang Error
> > teruss!!! Sebel dechhh..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "JT™" jsxtra...@yahoo.com
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:59:32
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!!
> >
> > Heran pade ngeribut bumi aje, emang ade ape sih? Bukannya minggu depan
> mau
> > naik... :)
> >
> >
> > Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
> >
> > “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ARRAY27 
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:54:34
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Pesan buat para BANDAR yang GOBLOK...!!!
> >
> > Gimana kalau nanti para MI-nya ikutan ngeshort?
> >
> > Pada 25 Oktober 2009 21:59, Muhamad Rojak 
> > menulis:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Buat para Bandar yg goblok, silakan aja elo short Bumi. Dijamin, elo
> >> pasti jadi gembel yg cuma pake underwear doang, trus nongkrong di
> >> kolong jembatan! Elo kira Pemerintah dan para Manajer Investasi bakal
> >> diem aja kalo Bumi dishort terus? Tentu mereka akan terus menjaga
> >> Bumi, supaya indeks tetep stabil! Dasar bego, emang susah deh...!!!
> >>
> >> On 10/22/09, iching_prediction
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > ikutan serbu...he..he..ampe november ok
> >> >
> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> >> > ,
> >> "jsx_consultant" 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 13:53
> >> >>
> >> >> IHSG 2426, SERBU MARKET -50
> >> >>
> >> >> IHSG akan rebound
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
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Re: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya?

[It's Elaine!]

*I'm waiting..*
[?][?][?][?][?][?][?]

2009/10/26 artomoro9 

>
>
>
> kalo ane short adaro, buy BUMI asyik kali ya.
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Sen, 26/10/09, JT * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: JT 
> Judul: RE: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya?
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Senin, 26 Oktober, 2009, 9:56 AM
>
>
>
>
>  YES, ane ikut Mbah.., terserah orang mau bilang apa ttg BUMI, ini
> trading, bukan beli perusahaan.., hehe..
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of icchanks
> Sent: 26 Oktober 2009 9:47
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ob] Re: Running trade macet ya?
>
>
>
> Beneran Mbah??
>
> Tapi masih nunggu di 2.600 neh
>
> GMn dunk, Prof JT n Jend. Arto are u in?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Ini TAL lagi
>
> >
>
> > Ayo serbu lagi
>
> >
>
> > IHSG -5, BUMI 2725-2750
>
> >
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Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.....Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109

[It's Elaine!]

*I read somewhere, that the most profitable trades (I forgot, either said by
Buffett or someone else) were made from buying on crashes. We all want
profit so let it crash..lolz..*

2009/10/26 boyz® 

>
>
> Sip mBah...
> Mudah2an ada yg mau tekan ke 109
> kan semakin keras tekanannya nanti melejitnya semakin mantul keatas,
> katanya Prof. JT
> Because of that, mudah2an BNBR bisa bikin new high sebelum end of this
> year.
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/26 jsx_consultant 
>
> The underlying structure of the market is the Elliott Wave kata
>> si Bill dalam bukunya teori Chaos...
>>
>> Jadi untuk mengerti gerakan market dan gerakan group Bakrie
>> yg BERBEDA kita ngarus mengerti Underlying structurenya.
>>
>> Kalau kita liat EW overall market dan EW broup Bakrie maka
>> terlihat perbedaan yg SANGAT MENONJOL pada group Bakrie
>> yaitu rata2 saham group Bakrie ada pada Corretion Wave 4
>> (embah bilang ini lagi DISHORT ama BD)
>>
>> Kejadian MIRIP INI sudah pernah terjadi pada thn 2008, pada
>> saat itu ketika OVERALL MARKET melemah maka Saham group
>> Bakrie memasuki UPTREND IMPULSE WAVE 5.
>>
>> Apakah ini terulang lagi pada thn 2009 ?.
>>
>> Dari segi logika bandarmologi BOZZ, ini adalah sangat mungkin...
>>
>> Kita liat saja apa yg akan terjadi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > BUY BNBR dekat 109
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlbnbr.png
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.....Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109

[It's Elaine!]

*I dunno. How should I get out?*

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:06 AM, JT  wrote:

>
>
>  So why did you go for ADRO which is near its highest ever then?? Lolz….
>
>
>
> you ask for crash but you buy at high…, how do you get out with that kind
> of SIZE when the market crash as you wish?  Hmmm…
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *It's Elaine!
> *Sent:* 26 Oktober 2009 11:01
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] MISTERI group Bakrie.Re: BUY BNBR dekat 109
>
>
>
>
>
> *I read somewhere, that the most profitable trades (I forgot, either said
> by Buffett or someone else) were made from buying on crashes. We all want
> profit so let it crash..lolz..*
>
> 2009/10/26 boyz® 
>
>
>
> Sip mBah...
> Mudah2an ada yg mau tekan ke 109
> kan semakin keras tekanannya nanti melejitnya semakin mantul keatas,
> katanya Prof. JT
> Because of that, mudah2an BNBR bisa bikin new high sebelum end of this
> year.
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
>  2009/10/26 jsx_consultant 
>
>
>
> The underlying structure of the market is the Elliott Wave kata
> si Bill dalam bukunya teori Chaos...
>
> Jadi untuk mengerti gerakan market dan gerakan group Bakrie
> yg BERBEDA kita ngarus mengerti Underlying structurenya.
>
> Kalau kita liat EW overall market dan EW broup Bakrie maka
> terlihat perbedaan yg SANGAT MENONJOL pada group Bakrie
> yaitu rata2 saham group Bakrie ada pada Corretion Wave 4
> (embah bilang ini lagi DISHORT ama BD)
>
> Kejadian MIRIP INI sudah pernah terjadi pada thn 2008, pada
> saat itu ketika OVERALL MARKET melemah maka Saham group
> Bakrie memasuki UPTREND IMPULSE WAVE 5.
>
> Apakah ini terulang lagi pada thn 2009 ?.
>
> Dari segi logika bandarmologi BOZZ, ini adalah sangat mungkin...
>
> Kita liat saja apa yg akan terjadi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" 
> wrote:
> >
> > BUY BNBR dekat 109
> >
> >
> > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlbnbr.png
> >
>
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Re: [ob] BUMI...kok berat ya..... ( to : mbah )

[It's Elaine!]

*Perhaps they need cash to back Recapital on Berau Coal, rumor said. Please
confirm to Artomoro Bakrie himself...*

2009/10/26 sangattangguh 

> mohon maaf bukan bermaksud menghasut nih...
> saya perhatikan kok...sepertinya bumi berat banget ngangkatnya.
> pemain2  besar udah pada keluar dan belum masuk lagi... sedangkan bandarnya
> kayaknya kehabisan bensin nih
> Apakah betul  mohon tanggapannya mbah 
>
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Re: [ob] bumi ADa ROket..

[It's Elaine!]

*Make money without money, right? [?]*

2009/10/26 artomoro9 

>
>
>  jam 15.32
>
> bumi -0.9 %
> adro -1.85%
>
> ane short lagi ya adro nya. mayan lah, buat belanja bumi.
> boleh kan.
>
> (no offense ya)
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --
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> 
>
> 
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Re: [ob] BUMI mohon komando. Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof JT

[It's Elaine!]

*karena uang habis di ambil retailer like JT... llollzz.. *

2009/10/27 Dumb Fish 

>
>
> Sesepuh, minta petunjuk nih... pasukan udah bingung, bentar lagi kucar
> kacir. Apakah BUMI akan turun dibawah 2575 ?
> Jen Arto belakangan kok jarang nendang ke Utara yah :(
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 

Re: Trs: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)

[It's Elaine!]

*Have you sold ur BUMI, Art? or are you going to short to 1700?*

2009/10/23 artomoro9 

>
>
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: artomo...@gmail.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 3:35 PM
>
> alhamdulillah.
>
> gak jadi cut loss di 2575.
>
> thanks GOD.
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, artomoro9 * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: artomoro9 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 9:06 AM
>
>
> insting ane akan lewat di atas itu.
>
> tap bisa aja insting ini jadi benar atau salah .
>
> target SELL ane masih di 4000.
>
> Btw : gue udah di tabokin orang sekampong OB nih...
>
> tapi kalo ini hari jebol 2575 ane CL. suer.
>
>
> regards,
> A9
>
>
> --- Pada *Jum, 23/10/09, boyz® * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: boyz® 
> Judul: Re: [ob] Today's Lesson (BUMI TP:2750)
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Jumat, 23 Oktober, 2009, 8:53 AM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Cougar Boy  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mbah...simple aja nih...
>> kalau dari chart yang dikasih embah...*kelihatan sekali TP BUMI hari ini
>> di 2750..*
>> Let's see sampai atau tidak
>>
>
>
>
> Gimana Jend. Arto?  DEAL?
> Provide your soldiers higher land, and make disembarking plan going smooth.
> master I-ching udah kasih sinyal :
>
> 2009/10/23 iching_prediction 
>> today, sell on strength, naik trus turun
>>
>
>
> Good Luck, brothers...
>
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ob] Re: BUMI- Buaya lagi lapar Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof JT

[It's Elaine!]

*WHOA LADY!!! Didn't you see my email? BOYZ, didn't you tell her? omg no no
no.. this isn't happening..*

2009/10/27 sheila.tjandra 

> Mbah..BUMI bijimane ya? buayanya lagi rakus nih, diembat semua..ampunnn
>
>
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" 
> > > > > > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:38:16
> > > > > > To: 
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] Re: BUMI mohon komando. Utk : Mbah, Jen Arto, Prof
> JT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tenang aja
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dumb Fish 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sesepuh, minta petunjuk nih... pasukan udah bingung, bentar
> lagi
> > > > kucar kacir. Apakah BUMI akan turun dibawah 2575 ?
> > > > > > > Jen Arto belakangan kok jarang nendang ke Utara yah :(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
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Re: [ob] BAKRIE : HIGH RISK NO GAIN

[It's Elaine!]

*You're right, they won't return.* [?]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Jacob Oen  wrote:

>
>
> I am at the POINT of NO RETURN.
>
> No cut-loss for BUMI and BNBR for now.
>
> Kalau BUMI turun sampai 1700 dan BNBR sampai 80, ane akan average down.
>
> May all of us be FREE from suffering and losses.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>
> "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
> --
> *From: * Vernichtung 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:05:15 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] BAKRI : HIGH RISK NO GAIN
>
>
>
> Kalo nutupnya pas 5 detik terakhir bisa nggak sempet loh cabut hari ini. BD
> kan mainnya bisa kasar.
>
> 2009/10/27 
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bnbr 100, dewa 175. Bismillah, kl close dbawahnya, ane cabut.
>>
>> Ok, lunch dululah. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Ekonom kok Mbeling sends this from his BlackBerry®
>> --
>>
>>
>
> 
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Re: [ob] Prof JT !

[It's Elaine!]

*Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^*

2009/10/27 JT™ 

>
>
> Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga
> ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
> --
> *From: * Marselinus Sujoko 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT)
> *To: *milis
> *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT !
>
>  di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq
>
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Re: [ob] Prof JT !

[It's Elaine!]

*Statistically speaking JT's method of trading is far superior than anybody
else in this group. So we have to learn from him, even if you feel you're
good.*

2009/10/27 

>
>
> Are you trying to say anything dear?
> Can u elaborate more pse? Tks.
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>
>
>
> *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^
> *
>
> 2009/10/27 JT™ 
>
>>
>>
>> Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga
>> ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi...
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
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>> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *milis
>> *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT !
>>
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>>  dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan
>> IE8 di 
>> sini!<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>
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Re: [ob] Prof JT !

[It's Elaine!]

*You never be good coz that's what you wish for. [?] Personally I'm impressed
with JT, a natural born leader.*

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:32 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Ah...yes. Well, I am never good anyway so I will learn from anybody :)
>
> Sent from my computer of course!
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:29:42 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>
>
>
> *Statistically speaking JT's method of trading is far superior than
> anybody else in this group. So we have to learn from him, even if you feel
> you're good.*
>
> 2009/10/27 
>
>>
>>
>> Are you trying to say anything dear?
>> Can u elaborate more pse? Tks.
>>
>> Sent from my computer of course!
>> --
>> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
>> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700
>> *To: *
>> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>>
>>
>>
>> *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you.
>> ^_^*
>>
>> 2009/10/27 JT™ 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga
>>> ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi...
>>>
>>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>>
>>> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
>>> --
>>> *From: * Marselinus Sujoko 
>>> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT)
>>> *To: *milis
>>> *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT !
>>>
>>>  di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lebih aman saat online.
>>> Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih 
>>> cepat<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>yang
>>>  dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan
>>> IE8 di 
>>> sini!<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [ob] Prof JT !

[It's Elaine!]

*Aduh mas Tasrul handsome, maaf Elaine cuma bercanda. Kamu juga bercanda
sering, nanti ane beli juga DEWA kalau USD stable ya.. ^_^
*
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:18 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Kekekek, ada yg bisa seting di BB atau yahoo mail kalau email dari EL
> lansung auto delete gak ? Ganggu banget nih(Wah ntar ane dibilangin anak
> kecil juga nih he he)
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> --
> *From: * "Joe Martin" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:58:46 +
> *To: *Ob
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>
>
>
> Yah si El cuma segitu doank biasanya??
>
> Payah juga yah, cuma delete dari FB mah anak kecil juga bisa
>
> *pi El... Mindik2 lalu kaboe
> --
> *From: * "Jacob Oen" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:52:51 +
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>
>
>
> You start teasing pak Tasrul nah entar kalau dibalas jangan upset ya? Don't
> take him out from your Face book, OK?.
>
>
>
> Sent from my XL BlackBerry®.
>
> "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give."
> --
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:13 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] Prof JT !
>
>
>
> *Kamu kasih kursus to Tasrul, perhaps he can learn something from you. ^_^
> *
>
> 2009/10/27 JT™ 
>
>>
>>
>> Wadew.., ngga baca posting saya sebelumnya Pak? Saya udh out loh.., ngga
>> ngebungkus apa2. Saya dah full cash lagi...
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>
>> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “
>> --
>> *From: * Marselinus Sujoko 
>> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:23 +0800 (SGT)
>> *To: *milis
>> *Subject: *[ob] Prof JT !
>>
>>  di tunggu instruksinya prof, bungkus? Tq
>>
>> --
>> Lebih aman saat online.
>> Upgrade ke Internet Explorer 8 baru dan lebih 
>> cepat<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>yang
>>  dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! agar Anda merasa lebih aman. Gratis. Dapatkan
>> IE8 di 
>> sini!<http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTFndmQxc2JlBHRtX2RtZWNoA1RleHQgTGluawR0bV9sbmsDVTExMDM0NjkEdG1fbmV0A1lhaG9vIQ--/SIG=11kadq57p/**http%3A//downloads.yahoo.com/id/internetexplorer/>
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>
>
> 
>

[ob] My comment on OB

[It's Elaine!]

*It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today
everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient to
market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially to
Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot from
them.

Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty
calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB
community has evolved. It's an achievement.

Elaine**
*

Re: [ob] My comment on OB

[It's Elaine!]

*Let's kill the bears... *

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young  wrote:

>
>
> Elaine also has changed.
> a significant changes actually...
> from an untamed female tiger to
> a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha...
>
> * just kidding *
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on
>> your early projection especially on BNBR?
>>
>> -LT
>>
>> On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! >
>> wrote:
>> > *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today
>>
>> > everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more resilient
>> to
>> > market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially
>> to
>> > Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot
>> from
>> > them.
>> >
>> > Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems pretty
>> > calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that OB
>> > community has evolved. It's an achievement.
>> >
>> > Elaine**
>> > *
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> 

Re: [ob] My comment on OB

[It's Elaine!]

*Elaine juga boleh trading, right..?* [?]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:55 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Wah...ada apa nich. Koq tiba2 ganti haluan?
>
> Salam,
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> ------
> *From: * "It's Elaine!" 
> *Date: *Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:50:19 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [ob] My comment on OB
>
>
>
> *Let's kill the bears... *
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM, fifi young  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Elaine also has changed.
>> a significant changes actually...
>> from an untamed female tiger to
>> a titi...mimid rabbit, hahaha...
>>
>> * just kidding *
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Lucky Trader wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bisa share arah idx til end Y09 ? What your view on B7?, any change on
>>> your early projection especially on BNBR?
>>>
>>> -LT
>>>
>>> On 10/27/09, It's Elaine! >
>>> wrote:
>>> > *It seems like the psychology in OB is very different than 2008. Today
>>>
>>> > everyone is pretty well prepared, emotionally stable, and more
>>> resilient to
>>> > market shocks. I personally give thanks to all contributors, especially
>>> to
>>> > Embah, JT, Tasrul, Kang Ocoy and all great members in OB. I learn a lot
>>> from
>>> > them.
>>> >
>>> > Unlike in 2008 where many ppl were unprepared, now everyone seems
>>> pretty
>>> > calm and optimistic. I love it. I'm also very impressed and glad that
>>> OB
>>> > community has evolved. It's an achievement.
>>> >
>>> > Elaine**
>>> > *
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> 
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