[obrolan-bandar] test - pls ignore

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby





 
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[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Koleksi Ebook Trading

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Stock Trader



Kebetulan saya telah mendownload ebooks yg bagus-bagus , Do
Professional Traders Exhibit Loss Realisation Aversion - Peter R Locke, Steven C MannThe
Gamblers' Fallacy - James MontierProfiles
& Motivations of Habitual Commodity Speculators - WB
Canoles, SR Thompson, SH Irwin, VG FranceEssentials
of Winning Psychology - Ray BarrosPsychology
of Trading - Walter T DownsThe Secrets
to Emotion Free Trading - Larry LevinWho Are
You? - Linda RaschkeManaging
your Money - Gibbons BurkeFine-Tuning
Your Money Management System - Bennett A McDowellPosition
Sizing Effects on Trader Performance - Johan GinyardMoney
Management - Ryan JonesThe
Math Behind The System - Richard L. WeissmanA
New Interpretation of Information Rate - J L KellyThe
Effect of Tick Size on Volatility, Trader Behaviour and Market Quality - Tavy
Ronen, Daniel WeaverMarket
Profile Basics - Jayanthi GopalakrishnanIntroduction
to Market Profile - Peter Steidlmayer, Ted HearneBehavioural
Economics - Sendhil Mullainathan, Richard H ThalerBehavioural
Finance - and the speculative bubble at the end of the 1990s - Melena Johnson,
Henrik Lindblom, Peter PlatanLosing
to Win  - Matt Blackman Winners
& Losers of the Zero-Sum Game - Lawrence
HarrisTrend
Determination using the Relative Strength Indicator - John HaydenAre
Investors Reluctant to Realize their Losses - Terrance OdeanSome
Quantitative Tests for Stock price Generating Models and Trading Folklore - M.F.M
OsborneOn
Technical Analysis - David P. Brown and Robert H. Jennings"Fibonacci"
The man and the markets - Alex Douglas and MMS SingaporeRisk
Analysis techniques - Ian HawkinsEd
Seykota Of Technical Tools – InterviewIn
Defense of Technical Analysis - Jack L. Treynor and Robert FergusonSecrets
of Today's Top Traders - Neal Weintraub

























































Dan saya bersedia meng-copynya ke CD + bonus 
beberapa koleksi ebook saya (sebagian ada yg beli) dengan judul ebook bonuses 
sbb :How to Trade Better - Larry 
Williams
Come Into My Trading Room – 
Alexander elder
The Insiders Guide to Trading the 
World Stock Markets – Andrew Willis
ElliottWavePrinciple 
Technical Analysis from A to Z - 
Steven B. Achelis
Stock Patterns for Day Trading and 
Swing Trading – Barry rudd
Japanese candlestick SakataMethod - 
Brad L. Matheny
Psychologyoftrading - Walter 
T. Downs
The Secret of Selecting Stocks - 
LARRY WILLIAMS
Candlestick Charting Explained - Greg 
MorrisJika tak keberatan saya mengenakan ongkos 
pengganti CD dan Copy sebesar Rp. 15.000,-/CD aja.. , Jika hendak dikirim ke alamat, saya tambahkan Rp. 
5000,- (khusus wilayah Jabotabek- diluar 
Jabotabek Rp. 10.000,-) sebagai pengganti ongkos kirim..Peminat 
silahkan JAPRI 
ke saya di [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA good news & Bad news

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik A3K










 

Pak Eka, memangnya berapa sih nilai kalori rata2 dari Coal
PTBA ? 

Katanya yg paling bagus
itu dari KPC, tapi variasi nya juga besar tuh

 

A3K

 

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:41
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
good news & Bad news



 









Saya sarankan utk yg pegang PTBA, lebih baik dipegang utk jangka
panjang. Kalo mau jangka pendek bisa rugi.





 





 





Ada
BAD NEWS utk PTBA: 





PT INDONESIA POWER sbg pemilik PLTU SURALAYA bakal minta ganti rugi
kepada PTBA karena pengiriman coal yg kalorinya terlalu rendah/lebih rendah
dari kontrak. Kalo rugi kurs utk H1 2006, masih ada cuma berkurang. Tapi
keuntungan bersih akan makin turun soalnya transportation cost naik signifikan.





 





Good News-nya:





 





Pemprov SUMSEL ( via Kepala Dinas Pertambangan dan Energi, Bapak NANO
SURATNO) sudah konfirmasi akan ada pembangunan total 6 PLTU total 6600MW yg
seluruh keperluan batubaranya di pasok PTBA. 





 





3 PLTU dipasok dan sebagian saham dimiliki PTBA :





 




 PLTU BANKO TENGAH 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28%
 saham, pa sokan 10jt-12jt Ton. (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas),
 selesai 2010
 PLTU Banjarsari 2x100MW, PTBA memiliki 41% saham,
 pasokan 1 Jt ton (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas), selesai 2009
 PLTU Arahan Utara 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28%
 saham, pasokan 10-12jt ton. (masih feasibilty study), selesai 2010
 PLTU MALAM, Musi Rawas, 2x600 MW , 5 - 5,65 Jt
 ton, selesai 2010
 PLTU BATURAJA , 2x100MW, pasokan 1,1 jt ton,
 selesai 2009
 PLTU MUBA , 2x 100 MW pasokan 1,1 Jt ton, selesai
 2010
 PLTU OKU TIMUR 2x100 MW, psokan 1,1 Jt ton,
 selesai 2009.




Harga jual batu bara 13,8 USD/ton, harga jual listriknya ada perbedaan
antara Banko dan Arahan, masih mahal yg arahan. Ongkos tambang sekitar
30cent-40cent/ton (murah soalnya dekat lokasi). jadi margin keuntungan lebih
besar dari pada yg dijual ke PLTU Suralaya (4,5 - 5,5 Jt ton, hampir separuh
dari total produksi)





 





 












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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Koleksi Ebook Trading

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik The Ovie



dear ivellina,saya berminat bu.salam,FeriStock Trader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Kebetulan saya telah mendownload ebooks yg bagus-bagus , Do Professional Traders Exhibit Loss Realisation Aversion - Peter R Locke, Steven C MannThe Gamblers' Fallacy - James
 MontierProfiles & Motivations of Habitual Commodity Speculators - WB Canoles, SR Thompson, SH Irwin, VG FranceEssentials of Winning Psychology - Ray BarrosPsychology of Trading - Walter T DownsThe Secrets to Emotion Free Trading - Larry LevinWho Are You? - Linda RaschkeManaging your Money - Gibbons BurkeFine-Tuning Your Money Management System - Bennett A McDowellPosition Sizing Effects on Trader Performance - Johan GinyardMoney Management - Ryan JonesThe Math Behind The System - Richard L. WeissmanA New Interpretation of Information Rate - J L KellyThe Effect of Tick Size on Volatility, Trader Behaviour and Market Quality - Tavy Ronen, Daniel WeaverMarket Profile Basics - Jayanthi GopalakrishnanIntroduction to Market Profile - Peter Steidlmayer, Ted HearneBehavioural Economics - Sendhil Mullainathan, Richard H ThalerBehavioural Finance - and the speculative bubble at the end of the 1990s - Melena Johnson, Henrik Lindblom, Peter PlatanLosing to Win
  - Matt Blackman Winners & Losers of the Zero-Sum Game - Lawrence HarrisTrend Determination using the Relative Strength Indicator - John HaydenAre Investors Reluctant to Realize their Losses - Terrance OdeanSome Quantitative Tests for Stock price Generating Models and Trading Folklore - M.F.M OsborneOn Technical Analysis - David P. Brown and Robert H. Jennings"Fibonacci" The man and the markets - Alex Douglas and MMS SingaporeRisk Analysis techniques - Ian HawkinsEd Seykota Of Technical Tools � InterviewIn Defense of Technical Analysis - Jack L. Treynor and Robert FergusonSecrets of Today's Top Traders - Neal Weintraub  Dan saya bersedia meng-copynya ke CD + bonus  beberapa koleksi ebook saya (sebagian ada yg beli) dengan judul ebook bonuses  sbb
 :How to Trade Better - Larry  Williams Come Into My Trading Room �  Alexander elder The Insiders Guide to Trading the  World Stock Markets � Andrew Willis ElliottWavePrinciple  Technical Analysis from A to Z -  Steven B. Achelis Stock Patterns for Day Trading and  Swing Trading � Barry rudd Japanese
 candlestick SakataMethod -  Brad L. Matheny Psychologyoftrading - Walter  T. Downs The Secret of Selecting Stocks -  LARRY WILLIAMS Candlestick Charting Explained - Greg  MorrisJika tak keberatan saya mengenakan ongkos  pengganti CD dan Copy sebesar Rp. 15.000,-/CD aja.. , Jika hendak dikirim ke alamat, saya tambahkan Rp.  5000,- (khusus wilayah Jabotabek- diluar  Jabotabek Rp. 10.000,-) sebagai pengganti ongkos kirim..Peminat  silahkan JAPRI  ke saya di [EMAIL PROTECTED]  , thxSaat ini saya sedang mendata list peminat.. saya akan kontak ke masing2 secara JAPRI juga mengenai sistim pengirimannya. ThxIvellina  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bad news ANTM

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik fahad mumtaz



apakah ini yang membuat antm drop dari 6000 ke 3500??  jadi target produksi terganggu = target penjualan terganggu = keuntungan terganggu ???  menurut pak eka dengan keadaan ini berapa harga wajar antm secara fundamental?  karena sesuai yang saya pelajari secara teknikal rsi, macd, MA antm masih bisa naik dari 4000anEKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bad news antm dari kawan yg lagi cuti. FENI III kapasitas smelternya nggak bisa naik2, masih 50-60%%. So berarti tambahan cuma 6000 MTON/tahun, utk tahun ini. Manajemen
 bakal minta ganti rugi ke kontraktor jepang. 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bad news ANTM

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik up_trends
P Eka,keliatan emas&nicker mulai stabil, gak turun lagi, plus stock
nickel di LME tambah sedikit, gimana BOW?
di harga berapaan yah? saya masi ada half, half dah di cut loss. 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Bad news antm dari kawan yg lagi cuti. FENI III kapasitas smelternya
nggak bisa naik2, masih 50-60%%. So berarti tambahan cuma 6000
MTON/tahun, utk tahun ini. Manajemen bakal minta ganti rugi ke
kontraktor jepang.
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[obrolan-bandar] YU Mandiri

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Cahyo Hari Purwanto
Pak Oentung, Embah dan dedengkot lainya...

Mulai kemarin, hari ini YU mulai masuk mandiri...akankah terjadi lagi 
"peristiwa PTBA" lagi???

Gimana komentarnya??? Thanks

 



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - The New Market Wizards - Conversations with America's Top Traders (Jack Schwager)

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Anicca -



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[obrolan-bandar] Link Fixed - Ebook : The New Market Wizards - Jack Schwager

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Stock Market Wizards - Jack Schwager

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Market dalam seminggu ini

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik edy1276
Halo para senior, pada kemana ya...? liburan bersama anak2 sepertinya
Tidak ada yg dapat dikomentarin ya dengan kondisi market seperti 2 hari 
yang lalu...

Btw, PTBA I still keep watching..
BMRI -- YU  pindah mainan ya? hmm...






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Market dalam seminggu ini

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Bozzex





Lagi ngumpulin dengan santai,PERCAYA SAJA..bisa 
beli murah kenafa musti ribut2 ?...heheheh...
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Protecting Your Wealth in Good Times and Bad

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA good news & Bad news

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Abah










Gw ikut njawab.

Nilai kalor PTBA 5100 kcal/kg

 

Kalo yg bagus itu dari KPC, tapi gak
kepake di PLTU Suralaya.  Eh maksudku sampe saat ini blon kepake di
Suralaya.  Variasi ? mungkin yg bagus adanya di dalem.  Yg dipermukaan
jelek, nilai kalornya kecil 4000 an kcal/kg.  dan 60% batubara di indonesia itu 4000 an kcal/kg kagak laku dijual.

 

He he makanya Bumi di jual.  Yg nilai
kalor rendah mo dipake buat batubara cair dan sisanya untuk PLTU yg 1 MW di
jawa.

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A3K
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:25
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
good news & Bad news



 









 

Pak Eka,
memangnya berapa sih nilai kalori rata2 dari Coal PTBA ? 

Katanya yg paling bagus
itu dari KPC, tapi variasi nya juga besar tuh

 

A3K

 

 









From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of EKA SUWANDANA
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:41
AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA
good news & Bad news



 









Saya sarankan utk yg pegang PTBA, lebih baik dipegang utk jangka
panjang. Kalo mau jangka pendek bisa rugi.





 





 





Ada BAD NEWS utk PTBA: 





PT INDONESIA POWER sbg pemilik PLTU SURALAYA bakal minta ganti rugi
kepada PTBA karena pengiriman coal yg kalorinya terlalu rendah/lebih rendah
dari kontrak. Kalo rugi kurs utk H1 2006, masih ada cuma berkurang. Tapi
keuntungan bersih akan makin turun soalnya transportation cost naik signifikan.





 





Good News-nya:





 





Pemprov SUMSEL ( via Kepala Dinas Pertambangan dan Energi, Bapak NANO
SURATNO) sudah konfirmasi akan ada pembangunan total 6 PLTU total 6600MW yg
seluruh keperluan batubaranya di pasok PTBA. 





 





3 PLTU dipasok dan sebagian saham dimiliki PTBA :





 




 PLTU BANKO TENGAH 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28%
 saham, pa sokan 10jt-12jt Ton. (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas),
 selesai 2010
 PLTU Banjarsari 2x100MW, PTBA memiliki 41% saham,
 pasokan 1 Jt ton (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas), selesai 2009
 PLTU Arahan Utara 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28%
 saham, pasokan 10-12jt ton. (masih feasibilty study), selesai 2010
 PLTU MALAM, Musi Rawas, 2x600 MW , 5 - 5,65 Jt
 ton, selesai 2010
 PLTU BATURAJA , 2x100MW, pasokan 1,1 jt ton,
 selesai 2009
 PLTU MUBA , 2x 100 MW pasokan 1,1 Jt ton, selesai
 2010
 PLTU OKU TIMUR 2x100 MW, psokan 1,1 Jt ton,
 selesai 2009.




Harga jual batu bara 13,8 USD/ton, harga jual listriknya ada perbedaan antara
Banko dan Arahan, masih mahal yg arahan. Ongkos tambang sekitar
30cent-40cent/ton (murah soalnya dekat lokasi). jadi margin keuntungan lebih
besar dari pada yg dijual ke PLTU Suralaya (4,5 - 5,5 Jt ton, hampir separuh
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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Technical Analysis For Short-term Traders

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ebook - Technical Analysis For Short-term Traders

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik up_trends
mayan lagi mkt sepi, thx yah

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2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] All About Market Timing

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - The Right Stock at the Right Time Prospering in the Coming Good Years

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] ebook - Simple Sector Trading

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - When The Market Moves Will You Be Ready - How To Profit From Major Market Events

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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[obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Market Timing The Easy Way to Get Started

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Ebook - Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Triwira Juniarta






Maaf pak, tapi untuk Predict_MS_with_TA.zip filenya tidak mau
dibuka oleh acrobat reader.
Hasilnya malah error.
Mungkin ada link lainnya pak?
Trims.


Dukkha wrote:

  
  Berikut ini link Ebook berjudul :
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ebook - Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik up_trends
speculator king juga tidak bisa

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> Maaf pak, tapi untuk *Predict_MS_with_TA.zip* filenya tidak mau 
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> oleh acrobat reader.
> Hasilnya malah error.
> Mungkin ada link lainnya pak?
> Trims.
> 
> 
> Dukkha wrote:
> 
> > Berikut ini link Ebook berjudul :
> >
> > Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis, karangan Micheal 
McDonald
> >
> > http://rapidshare.de/files/23647785/Predict_MS_with_TA.zip
> >
> > Enjoy.
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Ebook - Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Dukkha



Barusan saya mencoba sendiri DOWNLOAD, kemudian EXTRACT (UNCOMPRESS), terus MEMBUKA ke-2 ebook tersebut dan tidak ada masalah sama sekali.Pastikan download Anda dari Rapidshare lengkap filenya (100%), jika file tidak lengkap, waktu mau diuncompress pasti tidak bisa.Jika extract/uncompress berhasil, tapi tidak bisa dibuka dengan adobe reader... coba upgrade Adobe Reader Anda ke versi yang lebih tinggi, saya menggunakan versi 7.Good luck.Hello up_trends,Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 11:41:37 AM, you wrote:speculator king juga tidak bisaHello Triwira,Wednesday, June 21, 2006, 11:05:42 AM, you wrote:Maaf pak, tapi untuk Predict_MS_with_TA.zip filenya tidak mau dibuka oleh acrobat reader.Hasilnya malah error.Mungkin ada link lainnya pak?Trims.Dukkha wrote: Berikut ini link Ebook berjudul :Predict Market Swings With Technical Analysis, karangan Micheal
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: YU Mandiri

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Today (21/06/06) Endy Ridho??? write like this

" BMRI: 1.570-1.700. It has been moving as expected, with support 
level already found its new equilibrium at 1.610-1.630, which could 
be best level for a safe investment in the medium term. IDR2.000 in 
10 sessions..? why not...

What will you do Bozz.?
HeheheheGOTCHA!?

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> Pak Oentung, Embah dan dedengkot lainya...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: YU Mandiri

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik Andreas Yasakasih



who's endy Ridho? kok bagus yach analisanya, bisa dapat engak analisa yg seperti ini?Thanks in advanceOn 6/21/06, oentoeng_q <
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Today (21/06/06) Endy Ridho??? write like this

" BMRI: 1.570-1.700. It has been moving as expected, with support 
level already found its new equilibrium at 1.610-1.630, which could 
be best level for a safe investment in the medium term. IDR2.000 in 
10 sessions..? why not...

What will you do Bozz.?
HeheheheGOTCHA!?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Cahyo Hari Purwanto" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Pak Oentung, Embah dan dedengkot lainya...
> 
> Mulai kemarin, hari ini YU mulai masuk mandiri...akankah terjadi 
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> 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA good news & Bad news

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



PLTU Malam, baturaja, Muba dan OKU itu bagian dari crash program pemerintah yg 1MW. Abah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Gw ikut njawab.  Nilai kalor PTBA 5100 kcal/kg     Kalo yg bagus itu dari KPC, tapi gak kepake di PLTU Suralaya.  Eh maksudku sampe saat ini blon kepake di Suralaya.  Variasi ? mungkin yg bagus adanya di dalem.  Yg dipermukaan jelek, nilai kalornya kecil 4000 an kcal/kg.  dan 60% batubara di indonesia itu 4000 an kcal/kg kagak laku dijual.     He he makanya Bumi di jual.  Yg nilai kalor rendah mo dipake buat batubara cair dan sisanya untuk PLTU yg 1 MW di jawa.     From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A3KSent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:25 PMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA good news & Bad news   Pak Eka, memangnya berapa sih nilai kalori rata2 dari Coal PTBA ?   Katanya yg paling bagus itu dari KPC, tapi variasi nya juga besar tuhA3K  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
 EKA SUWANDANASent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 10:41 AMTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA good news & Bad newsSaya sarankan utk yg pegang PTBA, lebih baik dipegang utk jangka panjang. Kalo mau jangka pendek bisa rugi.Ada BAD NEWS utk PTBA: PT INDONESIA POWER sbg pemilik PLTU SURALAYA bakal minta ganti rugi kepada PTBA karena pengiriman coal yg kalorinya terlalu rendah/lebih rendah dari kontrak. Kalo rugi kurs utk H1 2006, masih ada cuma berkurang. Tapi keuntungan bersih akan makin turun soalnya transportation cost naik signifikan.Good
 News-nya:Pemprov SUMSEL ( via Kepala Dinas Pertambangan dan Energi, Bapak NANO SURATNO) sudah konfirmasi akan ada pembangunan total 6 PLTU total 6600MW yg seluruh keperluan batubaranya di pasok PTBA. 3 PLTU dipasok dan sebagian saham dimiliki PTBA :PLTU BANKO TENGAH 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28% saham, pa sokan 10jt-12jt Ton. (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas), selesai 2010  PLTU Banjarsari 2x100MW, PTBA memiliki 41% saham, pasokan 1 Jt ton (power purchase agreement sedang dibahas), selesai 2009  PLTU Arahan Utara 4x600MW, PTBA memiliki 28% saham, pasokan 10-12jt ton. (masih feasibilty study), selesai 2010  PLTU MALAM, Musi Rawas, 2x600 MW , 5 - 5,65 Jt ton, selesai 2010  PLTU BATURAJA , 2x100MW, pasokan 1,1 jt
 ton, selesai 2009  PLTU MUBA , 2x 100 MW pasokan 1,1 Jt ton, selesai 2010  PLTU OKU TIMUR 2x100 MW, psokan 1,1 Jt ton, selesai 2009.Harga jual batu bara 13,8 USD/ton, harga jual listriknya ada perbedaan antara Banko dan Arahan, masih mahal yg arahan. Ongkos tambang sekitar 30cent-40cent/ton (murah soalnya dekat lokasi). jadi margin keuntungan lebih besar dari pada yg dijual ke PLTU Suralaya (4,5 - 5,5 Jt ton, hampir separuh dari total produksi) 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bad news ANTM

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



ANTM sih bisa diambil dibawah 4100, tenang saja, di saat jelek newsnya pun, harga wajar lap keu 2005 ada di 4500. gara2 berita EPS akhir tahun ada di 550-an. Kayaknya balik ke 5000 sih perem. Kalo 6000 tuh mungkin berat.     Sorri kata temen akhir tahun produksi FENI III mungkin hanya 5000ton jadi total plus feni i & ii ada dikisaran 14000-15000/tahun ton. Dibawah target yg 19000/tahun ton. Mudah2an tahun 2007 FENI III bisa full capacity 11000 ton jadi target seharusnya ada dikisaran 21000 ton/tahun.   Tapi juga kalo nickel bisa bertahan di atas 8,2 USD/lb (sekarang 9 USD/lb) mungkin EPS bisa dekat2 600. Tapi juga USD harus diatas Rp9400, tiap tanggal tutup buku.  up_trends <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  P Eka,keliatan emas&nicker mulai stabil, gak turun lagi, plus stocknickel di LME tambah sedikit, gimana BOW?di harga berapaan yah? saya masi ada half, half dah di cut loss. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..>wrote:>> Bad news antm dari kawan yg lagi cuti. FENI III kapasitas smelternyanggak bisa naik2, masih 50-60%%. So berarti tambahan cuma 6000MTON/tahun, utk tahun ini. Manajemen bakal minta ganti rugi kekontraktor jepang.>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bad news ANTM

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



Bisa jadi Bandar tahu lebih dulu berita ini (INSIDER TRADING) kalo di amrik turun diatas 20% dalam seminggu tanpa berita alasan jelas, SEC bergerak.   Harga wajar ANTM utk FY2005 ada dikisaran 4500. EPS FYE2006= 550 - 600.  Tahun ini produksi ferronickel kemungkinan ada dikisaran 14000-15000ton dibawah target 19000 ton. Seharusnya kalo full capacity feni iii tercapai bisa 21000 ton/tahun.    Target akhir tahun paling cuma 5000. But who knows, mudah2an ada yg serakah!fahad mumtaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
apakah ini yang membuat antm drop dari 6000 ke 3500??  jadi target produksi terganggu = target penjualan terganggu = keuntungan terganggu ???  menurut pak eka dengan keadaan ini berapa harga wajar antm secara fundamental?  karena sesuai yang saya pelajari secara teknikal rsi, macd, MA antm masih bisa naik dari 4000anEKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Bad news antm dari kawan yg lagi cuti. FENI III kapasitas smelternya nggak bisa naik2, masih 50-60%%. So berarti tambahan cuma 6000 MTON/tahun, utk tahun ini. Manajemen bakal minta ganti rugi ke kontraktor jepang.  Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.  
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[obrolan-bandar] PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-20 Terurut Topik EKA SUWANDANA



UTK PTBA yg laba bersih akan mengecil sampai akhir tahun ini. PTBA PER-nya bisa bermain di atas 35-40x. Memang menakutkan. Tapi ingat PGAS tahun lalu PER-nya sempat dikisaran 50x. Tetap diburu dan ternyata sekarang terbukti, ada dikisaran belasan.  So PTBA asal bia tahan sampai 2008-2009 sambil melihat perkembangan crash program pemerintah. Bakalan seperti PGAS. Jangan takut tahun 2008 tahun pemilu, SBY ingin meninggalkan kenang2an PLTU 1MW sbg legacy.
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