Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Andrew S. Baker
The switch can handle layer 2 traffic and VLANs just fine. The inability to
handle DHCP is a separate thing altogether.

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On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 9:32 PM, J- P jnat...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thanks Espi,

i guess i was hoping to see if someone had real world experience with these -

i find it odd that it can be labled and sold as a managed switch with vlan
support if it requires a 2nd switch.

i thought perhaps i was missing or overlooking some setting(s)

What if soemone had a small network (30 pcs , a few servers and some printers)
and they bought this 48 port "managed layer 3 vlan capable switch " with the
expectation that it can do what it claims?

thx again




From: michealespin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Hi J-P,
I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding
your frustration correctly: If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see how
this could work. DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to
cross networks. I can only assume that this model is a lower-tiered option that
is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed switch.
I saw a similarly themed question posted here:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749


--
Espi

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P < jnat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
Anyone, Bueller,


Jean-Paul Natola






From: jnat...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400

Hi all,
I've been testing VLAN on a GS748tv5 I emphasize v5 as netgear tends to create
different devices and only differentiate them by the version , as a matter of
fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or dhcp relay" options (yes I know,
its old , and crappy anyway),
So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 , added the firewall port and
test pc port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP relay,
the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 192.168.5.x
on my 08r2 server, )
If I give the pc a static address (i.e 192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP
server; https://www.google.com/search? q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82,
still no joy-
if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS
switch


Jean-Paul Natola


[NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions

2016-08-23 Thread Bambi J Saastad
I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging
Has anyone used it and could give me their opinion's of it?

TIA


-
Bambi



[NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions

2016-08-23 Thread Bambi J Saastad
I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging
Has anyone used it and could give me their opinion's of it?

TIA
B


-



[NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

2016-08-23 Thread Bambi J Saastad
I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging
Has anyone used it and could give me their opinion's of it?

TIA


-
Bambi Saastad
office 952-402-7888
cell612-963-1478



RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

2016-08-23 Thread Gavin Wilby
Only once, the third time was a bore.

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TIA


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RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -

maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better

From: michealespin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation realizing 
the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.--
Espi
 

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:



Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html

From: michealespin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Hi J-P,
I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper 
mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this model is a 
lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed 
switch.
I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749

--
Espi
 

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:



Anyone, Bueller,   

  

Jean-Paul Natola

 


From: jnat...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400




Hi all,
I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay" options  
(yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port 
and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP 
relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 
192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully 
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP 
server;https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, 
still no joy-
if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS 
switch



Jean-Paul Natola

 

  




  




  


RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

2016-08-23 Thread Darren Martin
Looking into it myself for Win 10 clients. Interested to hear responses on this 
also...


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Behalf Of Bambi J Saastad
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:44 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging Has anyone used it and could give 
me their opinion's of it?

TIA


-
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RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Melvin Backus
Core sort of implies layer 3.

--
There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
 those who understand binary and those who don't.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of J- P
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -

maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better

From: michealespin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation realizing 
the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.

As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.

--
Espi


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P 
mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html

From: michealespin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Hi J-P,

I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper 
mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this model is a 
lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed 
switch.

I saw a similarly themed question posted here:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749


--
Espi


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P 
mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Anyone, Bueller,

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Jean-Paul Natola



From: jnat...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
Hi all,

I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay" options  
(yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),

So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port 
and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP 
relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 
192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )

If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully 
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP 
server;
https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=

which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, 
still no joy-

if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated

and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS 
switch



Jean-Paul Natola






Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
*♫*

*Cut my budget into pieces*

*This is my last resort*

*DHCP*

*No relay*

*Don't give a fsck if I brick my switch, seeding*

--
Espi


On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM, J- P  wrote:

> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
>
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-
> GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-
> broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
>
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Hi J-P,
>
> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm
> understanding your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper
> options, I dont see how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and
> needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this
> model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a
> higher-tiered managed switch.
>
> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>
> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/W
> hy-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Anyone, Bueller,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
> --
> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to
> create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a
> matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
> options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
>
> So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall
> port and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for
> ip-helper or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did
> create the DHCP scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
>
> If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then
> successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option
> 82 on the DHCP server;
> https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
>
> which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option
> 82, still no joy-
>
> if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
>
> and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS
> switch
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
>
>



RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

2016-08-23 Thread Harry Smith
Reference: Macrium reflect

I have used it across my home machines (ThinkPad's, hp desktops, acer desktops, 
and an ideapad) to image to 
(and from) local drives, and to (and from) a networked 2012 server (dl380).

I had no issues during cloning.  Est 1 hr per 100 gig over gb backbone at my 
home, your results may vary  ;)  

CAN create a boot partition change, so the user could boot off the Macrium boot 
code to restore or boot off c drive or boot off the main os.
I found that very useful, but, it must be updated per o/s, so if you update 
from 7 (winpe3) to 10, you must update the pe to 10.
I did not test boot loader OR imaging with encryption on or enabled.
It can also back up individual partitions, and be scheduled with its built in 
scheduler.


The only issue I can (so far) see is each machine copies the drivers for THAT 
machine into the boot stick or dvd/cd.

I would imagine you can copy from one hardware stick to another, but I have not 
yet tried it.

Good luck!


hsmith

"You can patch software, but you cannot patch experience” me
"Make a habit of two things: to help; or at least to do no harm." - Hippocrates 

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Behalf Of Darren Martin
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:45 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

Looking into it myself for Win 10 clients. Interested to hear responses on this 
also...


D


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To: ntsysadm
Subject: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging Has anyone used it and could give 
me their opinion's of it?

TIA


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Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
Among your alternatives, assuming your client is price sensitive, you
should evaluate Mikrotik and Ubiquiti.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM, J- P  wrote:
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
>
> 
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
>
> 
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Hi J-P,
>
> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding
> your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see
> how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper
> mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this model is a
> lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed
> switch.
>
> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>
> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Anyone, Bueller,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
> 
> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to
> create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a
> matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
> options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
>
> So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall
> port and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper
> or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP
> scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
>
> If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then
> successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option
> 82 on the DHCP server;
> https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
>
> which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option
> 82, still no joy-
>
> if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
>
> and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS
> switch
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
>




[NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

2016-08-23 Thread Poppy Lochridge
Something very weird has happened with one of my clients' servers.

In June, I configured group policy for redirected folders to store Desktop, 
Documents, and Downloads in 
\\SERVERNAME\folderredirections$\users$\USERNAME
 for about 50 users on the network.
It's not a big network, but they are cautious with resources, so rather than 
fix the FOLDER of user data that the previous IT person named "users$" - he was 
trying to make a hidden share and didn't know how - I left it as it was. The 
Folder Redirections folder is in C:\Users on the server, so I closed down the 
share on Users and fixed permissions so each user controlled their own folder, 
but no-one else could access their files.

Things were quiet-ish for the end of June and through July, redirected folders 
were working, no files disappearing, no odd permissions problems. Until 
yesterday.

Yesterday, we were notified that users were getting permissions problems trying 
to delete files from their desktop. Some people reported that they'd restarted 
and logging back in took, in some cases, hours. On a hunch, I looked at Group 
Policy.

Redirected folders policy had been changed - to something that looked like a 
vanilla, out-of-the-box setting produced by a wizard. Desktop and Documents 
were now pointing at 
\\SERVERNAME\Users\Folder 
Redirections\USERNAME. Downloads had no policy configuration set.

We're running Server 2012 R2 on this system. They've asked me to do what I can 
to prevent this from happening again - it's been rather disruptive - but this 
is a strange situation, and I'm at a loss to understand HOW this happened.

Hit me with suggestions - have you encountered a situation where group policy 
changed unexpectedly? What's your best guess for how something like this 
happens?

--Poppy


Poppy Lochridge
Technology Consultant
NetCorps
1385-B Oak Street
Eugene, OR 97401
541-465-1127 x4

po...@netcorps.org
http://www.netcorps.org




Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Jack Kramer
Or, if you're willing to forego having a warranty, Juniper EX-series switches 
are stunningly cheap on eBay these days.

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> 
> Among your alternatives, assuming your client is price sensitive, you
> should evaluate Mikrotik and Ubiquiti.
> 
> Kurt
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM, J- P  wrote:
>> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
>> switch  -
>> 
>> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
>> 
>> 
>> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> 
>> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
>> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
>> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
>> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>> 
>> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
>> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>> 
>> --
>> Espi
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
>> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>> 
>> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
>> 
>> 
>> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> 
>> Hi J-P,
>> 
>> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding
>> your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see
>> how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and needs a helper
>> mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this model is a
>> lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a higher-tiered managed
>> switch.
>> 
>> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>> 
>> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Espi
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone, Bueller,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jean-Paul Natola
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
>> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>> Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to
>> create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a
>> matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
>> options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
>> 
>> So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall
>> port and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper
>> or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP
>> scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
>> 
>> If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then
>> successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option
>> 82 on the DHCP server;
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
>> 
>> which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option
>> 82, still no joy-
>> 
>> if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
>> 
>> and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS
>> switch
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jean-Paul Natola
> 
> 




Re: [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

2016-08-23 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Something happened unexpectedly - Sure, but nothing just changes on its
own.


   1. Review change management (what was intentionally changed recently?)
   2. Review automation schedules and logs (what automation may have caused
   changes?)
   3. Talk to people who have admin perms (who may have made a direct
   change outside of change management?)


Try not to put an employee on the defensive.  Start by being vague and
friendly since you want them to be honest and not try to hide their
tracks.  After you find out who it was; *kill them and enslave their
children to the helpdesk phone bank*.



--
Espi


On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Poppy Lochridge 
wrote:

> Something very weird has happened with one of my clients’ servers.
>
>
>
> In June, I configured group policy for redirected folders to store
> Desktop, Documents, and Downloads in \\SERVERNAME\
> folderredirections$\users$\USERNAME for about 50 users on the network.
>
> It’s not a big network, but they are cautious with resources, so rather
> than fix the FOLDER of user data that the previous IT person named “users$”
> – he was trying to make a hidden share and didn’t know how – I left it as
> it was. The Folder Redirections folder is in C:\Users on the server, so I
> closed down the share on Users and fixed permissions so each user
> controlled their own folder, but no-one else could access their files.
>
>
>
> Things were quiet-ish for the end of June and through July, redirected
> folders were working, no files disappearing, no odd permissions problems.
> Until yesterday.
>
>
>
> Yesterday, we were notified that users were getting permissions problems
> trying to delete files from their desktop. Some people reported that they’d
> restarted and logging back in took, in some cases, hours. On a hunch, I
> looked at Group Policy.
>
>
>
> Redirected folders policy had been changed – to something that looked like
> a vanilla, out-of-the-box setting produced by a wizard. Desktop and
> Documents were now pointing at \\SERVERNAME\Users\Folder
> Redirections\USERNAME. Downloads had no policy configuration set.
>
>
>
> We’re running Server 2012 R2 on this system. They’ve asked me to do what I
> can to prevent this from happening again – it’s been rather disruptive –
> but this is a strange situation, and I’m at a loss to understand HOW this
> happened.
>
>
>
> Hit me with suggestions – have you encountered a situation where group
> policy changed unexpectedly? What’s your best guess for how something like
> this happens?
>
>
>
> --Poppy
>
>
>
>
>
> Poppy Lochridge
>
> Technology Consultant
>
> NetCorps
>
> 1385-B Oak Street
>
> Eugene, OR 97401
>
> 541-465-1127 x4
>
>
>
> po...@netcorps.org
>
> http://www.netcorps.org
>
>
>



[NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.

 

--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.

 


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5


 

Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better



From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.

 


As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.








--

Espi

 




 

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:



Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall



https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html



From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Hi J-P,


 


I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast
 protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume 
that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a 
higher-tiered managed switch.


 


I saw a similarly themed question posted here:


 


https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749


 








--

Espi

 




 

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:





Anyone, Bueller,


  



 





  

Jean-Paul Natola

 










From:
jnat...@hotmail.com

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400



Hi all,


 


I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matter of fact this device does not have
 a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay" options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy 
anyway),




So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port 
and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP 
relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 
192.168.5.x  on my 08r2
 server, )


 


If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully 
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP 
server;


https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=


 


which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, 
still no joy-


 


if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated


 


and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS 
switch


 


 




Jean-Paul Natola

 









 





 






  


RE: [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

2016-08-23 Thread Charles F Sullivan
We’ve been using Advanced Group Policy Management here for a couple of
years now. I don’t find it to be helpful most of the time, but in a case
like this, as long as the GPO in question is a “controlled” one, you would
know who did it (if anyone). Better, someone like you probably would have
had to approve their actions first.



It’s part of MDOP, which I think is only available to Software Assurance
customers. If it is available to you, you may want to look into it. You
would at least be able to tell management that you have something in place
to catch it next time. If it’s not already available to you, it’s probably
not worth sinking the money into, to be honest.



If you back up your GPOs regularly as we do, you may be able to pinpoint
the time this changed at least. May be a bit tedious though.



*From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Poppy Lochridge
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 2:41 PM
*To:* NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
*Subject:* [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?



Something very weird has happened with one of my clients’ servers.



In June, I configured group policy for redirected folders to store Desktop,
Documents, and Downloads in \\SERVERNAME\folderredirections$\users$\USERNAME
 for about 50 users
on the network.

It’s not a big network, but they are cautious with resources, so rather
than fix the FOLDER of user data that the previous IT person named “users$”
– he was trying to make a hidden share and didn’t know how – I left it as
it was. The Folder Redirections folder is in C:\Users on the server, so I
closed down the share on Users and fixed permissions so each user
controlled their own folder, but no-one else could access their files.



Things were quiet-ish for the end of June and through July, redirected
folders were working, no files disappearing, no odd permissions problems.
Until yesterday.



Yesterday, we were notified that users were getting permissions problems
trying to delete files from their desktop. Some people reported that they’d
restarted and logging back in took, in some cases, hours. On a hunch, I
looked at Group Policy.



Redirected folders policy had been changed – to something that looked like
a vanilla, out-of-the-box setting produced by a wizard. Desktop and
Documents were now pointing at \\SERVERNAME\Users\Folder
 Redirections\USERNAME. Downloads had no
policy configuration set.



We’re running Server 2012 R2 on this system. They’ve asked me to do what I
can to prevent this from happening again – it’s been rather disruptive –
but this is a strange situation, and I’m at a loss to understand HOW this
happened.



Hit me with suggestions – have you encountered a situation where group
policy changed unexpectedly? What’s your best guess for how something like
this happens?



--Poppy





Poppy Lochridge

Technology Consultant

NetCorps

1385-B Oak Street

Eugene, OR 97401

541-465-1127 x4



po...@netcorps.org

http://www.netcorps.org



Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:

> Got approval  for new core,
>
> Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
>
> TiA
>
> --
> From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +
>
> Core sort of implies layer 3.
>
>
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>  those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>
>
>
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
> --
>
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
>
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/
> Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-
> DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
> --
>
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Hi J-P,
>
>
>
> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm
> understanding your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper
> options, I dont see how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and
> needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this
> model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a
> higher-tiered managed switch.
>
>
>
> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>
>
>
> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/
> Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>
>
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Anyone, Bueller,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
> --
>
> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to
> create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a
> matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
> options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
>
>
> So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall
> port and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for
> ip-helper or DHCP relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did
> create the DHCP scope 192.168.5.x  on my 08r2 server, )
>
>
>
> If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then
> successfully ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option
> 82 on the DHCP server;
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=
>
>
>
> which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option
> 82, still no joy-
>
>
>
> if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated
>
>
>
> and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS
> switch
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

2016-08-23 Thread James Rankin
Sounds like someone messed with the settings... who has access? When were the 
actual policy files in sysvol last modified?

Sent from my slightly schizophrenic, but rather cool, BlackBerry Android
From:po...@netcorps.org
Sent:23 August 2016 9:09 p.m.
To:NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Reply to:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject:[NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?


Something very weird has happened with one of my clients' servers.

In June, I configured group policy for redirected folders to store Desktop, 
Documents, and Downloads in 
\\SERVERNAME\folderredirections$\users$\USERNAME
 for about 50 users on the network.
It's not a big network, but they are cautious with resources, so rather than 
fix the FOLDER of user data that the previous IT person named "users$" - he was 
trying to make a hidden share and didn't know how - I left it as it was. The 
Folder Redirections folder is in C:\Users on the server, so I closed down the 
share on Users and fixed permissions so each user controlled their own folder, 
but no-one else could access their files.

Things were quiet-ish for the end of June and through July, redirected folders 
were working, no files disappearing, no odd permissions problems. Until 
yesterday.

Yesterday, we were notified that users were getting permissions problems trying 
to delete files from their desktop. Some people reported that they'd restarted 
and logging back in took, in some cases, hours. On a hunch, I looked at Group 
Policy.

Redirected folders policy had been changed - to something that looked like a 
vanilla, out-of-the-box setting produced by a wizard. Desktop and Documents 
were now pointing at 
\\SERVERNAME\Users\Folder 
Redirections\USERNAME. Downloads had no policy configuration set.

We're running Server 2012 R2 on this system. They've asked me to do what I can 
to prevent this from happening again - it's been rather disruptive - but this 
is a strange situation, and I'm at a loss to understand HOW this happened.

Hit me with suggestions - have you encountered a situation where group policy 
changed unexpectedly? What's your best guess for how something like this 
happens?

--Poppy


Poppy Lochridge
Technology Consultant
NetCorps
1385-B Oak Street
Eugene, OR 97401
541-465-1127 x4

po...@netcorps.org
http://www.netcorps.org




RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Currently flat,
60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras

A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

i site  to site

4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 
4 1 gb nics,

primary internet is 100mb 
backup internet is 25mb

about 20 concurrent  remote  users

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, 
how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:



Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.


 


--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.


 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5



 


Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.


 



As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:




Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall



https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com



Hi J-P,



 



I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast
 protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume 
that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a 
higher-tiered managed switch.



 



I saw a similarly themed question posted here:



 



https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749



 










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:






Anyone, Bueller,



  





 






  

Jean-Paul Natola


 











From:
jnat...@hotmail.com

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400




Hi all,



 



I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matter of fact this device does not have
 a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay" options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy 
anyway),





So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port 
and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP 
relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 
192.168.5.x  on my 08r2
 server, )



 



If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully 
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP 
server;



https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=



 



which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, 
still no joy-



 



if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated



 



and before anyone asks, there is no CLI, no Shell, no Terminal on this POS 
switch



 



 





Jean-Paul Natola

 










 






 







  




  


Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?

If not, then most anything will work.

Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well
experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively
inexperienced with switches?

If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or
Ubiquiti.

If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity
for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or
Ubiquiti.

I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like
Cisco or HP.

Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else -
they're otherwise fine switches.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:

> Currently flat,
> 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
> 8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip
> cameras
>
> A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic
>
> i site  to site
>
> 4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers
> have 4 1 gb nics,
>
> primary internet is 100mb
> backup internet is 25mb
>
> about 20 concurrent  remote  users
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
> VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Got approval  for new core,
>
> Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
>
> TiA
>
> --
> From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +
>
> Core sort of implies layer 3.
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>  those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-
> GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-
> broadcasting-across-all-ports.html
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Hi J-P,
>
> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm
> understanding your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper
> options, I dont see how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and
> needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this
> model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a
> higher-tiered managed switch.
>
> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>
> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/W
> hy-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Anyone, Bueller,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
> --
> From: jnat...@hotmail.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400
> Hi all,
>
> I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to
> create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a
> matter of fact this device does not have a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay"
> options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy anyway),
>
> So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   

RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
And of course you have to factor in approx 1.3 devices per person (all have 
phones, and about ine 3rd have tablets  )

From: jnat...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 17:33:15 -0400




Currently flat,
60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras

A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

i site  to site

4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 
4 1 gb nics,

primary internet is 100mb 
backup internet is 25mb

about 20 concurrent  remote  users

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, 
how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:



Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.


 


--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.


 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5



 


Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.


 



As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:




Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall



https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com



Hi J-P,



 



I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast
 protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume 
that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a 
higher-tiered managed switch.



 



I saw a similarly themed question posted here:



 



https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749



 










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:






Anyone, Bueller,



  





 






  

Jean-Paul Natola


 











From:
jnat...@hotmail.com

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400




Hi all,



 



I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matter of fact this device does not have
 a "ip-helper, or  dhcp relay" options  (yes I know,  its old , and crappy 
anyway),





So I created vlan5 , assigned it an IP 192.168.5.1 ,   added the firewall port 
and  test pc  port to the vlan and since I have no option for ip-helper or DHCP 
relay, the PC received no ip address (and yes, I did create the DHCP scope 
192.168.5.x  on my 08r2
 server, )



 



If I give the pc a static address (i.e  192.168.5.x ) I can then successfully 
ping 192.168.5.1 , further research said to enable DHCP option 82 on the DHCP 
server;



https://www.google.com/search?q=dhcp+option+82&ie=&oe=



 



which of course doesn't exist in 08, so I tried to manually create option 82, 
still no joy-



 



if anyone can share any thoughts it would be greatly appreciated



 



and before anyone asks, there is no

RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

2016-08-23 Thread Mark Gottschalk
I've used it for years, but for backup imaging and not imaging new 
machines.  Been very happy with it for what I use it for (several 2012 R2 
servers and a few critical workstations).  Images can be mounted as drives 
in another system and individual files restored from any of the backups. 
Full emergency restores by booting to USB key or burned CD/DVD, which you 
create from Macrium Reflect in advance (have only done this once, with 
success, thankfully).  Backups are encrypted and compressed in my case, 
which works fine.  I've got a rotation of daily/weekly/monthly full and 
incremental backups across some NAS's and removable drives for taking 
offsite.  Makes use of OS shadow copy function to deal with open files 
during image/backup.

I have used it multiple times to clone machines to the same hardware with 
success.  Mostly for reconfiguring RAID drive arrangements or simple stuff 
like moving to a larger drive on a workstation.  It will clone to smaller 
drives if the data fits.

-- Mark



From:   Harry Smith 
To: 
Date:   08/23/2016 12:10 PM
Subject:RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?
Sent by:



Reference: Macrium reflect

I have used it across my home machines (ThinkPad's, hp desktops, acer 
desktops, and an ideapad) to image to 
(and from) local drives, and to (and from) a networked 2012 server 
(dl380).

I had no issues during cloning.  Est 1 hr per 100 gig over gb backbone at 
my home, your results may vary  ;) 

CAN create a boot partition change, so the user could boot off the Macrium 
boot code to restore or boot off c drive or boot off the main os.
I found that very useful, but, it must be updated per o/s, so if you 
update from 7 (winpe3) to 10, you must update the pe to 10.
I did not test boot loader OR imaging with encryption on or enabled.
It can also back up individual partitions, and be scheduled with its built 
in scheduler.


The only issue I can (so far) see is each machine copies the drivers for 
THAT machine into the boot stick or dvd/cd.

I would imagine you can copy from one hardware stick to another, but I 
have not yet tried it.

Good luck!


hsmith

"You can patch software, but you cannot patch experience? me
"Make a habit of two things: to help; or at least to do no harm." - 
Hippocrates 

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Darren Martin
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:45 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

Looking into it myself for Win 10 clients. Interested to hear responses on 
this also...


D


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bambi J Saastad
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:44 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: [NTSysADM] Macrium Reflect Opinions anyone?

I am looking at Macrium Reflect for imaging Has anyone used it and could 
give me their opinion's of it?

TIA


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RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Yes lots of cad  Vectorworks  for the production  dept (15 users) amd lots of 
video editing, However, the video is done on a rendering pc, once.its completed 
,  it goes back to the.synology

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?

If not, then most anything will work.

Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well 
experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively 
inexperienced with switches?

If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or 
Ubiquiti.

If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity for 
the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or Ubiquiti.

I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like 
Cisco or HP.

Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else - 
they're otherwise fine switches.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:



Currently flat,
60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras

A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

i site  to site

4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 
4 1 gb nics,

primary internet is 100mb 
backup internet is 25mb

about 20 concurrent  remote  users

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, 
how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:



Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.


 


--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.


 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5



 


Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.


 



As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:




Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall



https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com



Hi J-P,



 



I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast
 protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume 
that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a 
higher-tiered managed switch.



 



I saw a similarly themed question posted here:



 



https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749



 










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:






Anyone, Bueller,



  





 






  

Jean-Paul Natola


 











From:
jnat...@hotmail.com

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400




Hi all,



 



I've been testing VLAN  on a GS748tv5  I emphasize v5  as netgear tends to 
create different devices and only differentiate them by the version ,  as a 
matte

RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Im by no means  a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service business  and that is 
all they  use , i dont do the full configs  as i just set them up, enable the 
port and web acces   (where applicable  ) and the "mother ship" takes over from 
there.

Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper ,   but if the cli.is the same 
or similar im willimg.to explore

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?

If not, then most anything will work.

Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well 
experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively 
inexperienced with switches?

If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or 
Ubiquiti.

If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity for 
the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or Ubiquiti.

I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like 
Cisco or HP.

Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else - 
they're otherwise fine switches.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:



Currently flat,
60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras

A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

i site  to site

4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 
4 1 gb nics,

primary internet is 100mb 
backup internet is 25mb

about 20 concurrent  remote  users

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, 
how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:



Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.


 


--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.


 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5



 


Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.


 



As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:




Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a 2nd 
switch, or use the firewall



https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcasting-across-all-ports.html




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com



Hi J-P,



 



I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm understanding 
your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper options, I dont see 
how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast
 protocol, and needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume 
that this model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a 
higher-tiered managed switch.



 



I saw a similarly themed question posted here:



 



https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/Why-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749



 










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 1:29 PM, J- P  wrote:






Anyone, Bueller,



  





 






  

Jean-Paul Natola


 











From:
jnat...@hotmail.com

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:47:11 -0400




Hi all

Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
I'd take a hard look at a Juniper EX4300-48, but if money is a real
sticking point, then look at the specs on an HP switch or a Ubiquiti.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:21 PM, J- P  wrote:

> Yes lots of cad  Vectorworks  for the production  dept (15 users) amd lots
> of video editing, However, the video is done on a rendering pc, once.its
> completed ,  it goes back to the.synology
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?
>
> If not, then most anything will work.
>
> Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well
> experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively
> inexperienced with switches?
>
> If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity
> for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like
> Cisco or HP.
>
> Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else -
> they're otherwise fine switches.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Currently flat,
> 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
> 8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip
> cameras
>
> A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic
>
> i site  to site
>
> 4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers
> have 4 1 gb nics,
>
> primary internet is 100mb
> backup internet is 25mb
>
> about 20 concurrent  remote  users
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
> VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Got approval  for new core,
>
> Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
>
> TiA
>
> --
> From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +
>
> Core sort of implies layer 3.
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>  those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26167971/Netgear-
> GS748T-setting-up-several-VLAN's-but-having-DHCP-broadcastin
> g-across-all-ports.html
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 17:16:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Hi J-P,
>
> I didnt really see a question in your initial post, but if I'm
> understanding your frustration correctly:  If there are no DHCP helper
> options, I dont see how this could work.  DHCP is a broadcast protocol, and
> needs a helper mechanism to cross networks.  I can only assume that this
> model is a lower-tiered option that is meant to be stacked with a
> higher-tiered managed switch.
>
> I saw a similarly themed question posted here:
>
> https://community.netgear.com/t5/Smart-Plus-Click-Switches/W
> hy-have-none-of-Netgear-s-L2-switches-a-DHCP-relay-agent/td-p/500749
>
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>

RE: [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

2016-08-23 Thread Poppy Lochridge
Oh, nice thought, thank you. I don't have copies of the policy files before I 
edited them yesterday anywhere but in bare metal backup, but I do see a similar 
folder with an edit date of 8/17. Our security log doesn't go back that far, 
sadly, but that gives me at least a possible date to work from.

There's an embarrassingly long list of people who have access. I've talked to 
the most likely to have been working on the server for any reason, and not 
gotten any confirmation that they were even on the server recently. (Obviously 
SOMEONE was - or we had two policy file versions sitting around or something 
equally weird happened)

--Poppy


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of James Rankin
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:11 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com; 'NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com' 

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?

Sounds like someone messed with the settings... who has access? When were the 
actual policy files in sysvol last modified?

Sent from my slightly schizophrenic, but rather cool, BlackBerry Android
From:po...@netcorps.org
Sent:23 August 2016 9:09 p.m.
To:NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Reply to:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject:[NTSysADM] Folder Redirection Group Policy Resetting itself?


Something very weird has happened with one of my clients' servers.

In June, I configured group policy for redirected folders to store Desktop, 
Documents, and Downloads in 
\\SERVERNAME\folderredirections$\users$\USERNAME
 for about 50 users on the network.
It's not a big network, but they are cautious with resources, so rather than 
fix the FOLDER of user data that the previous IT person named "users$" - he was 
trying to make a hidden share and didn't know how - I left it as it was. The 
Folder Redirections folder is in C:\Users on the server, so I closed down the 
share on Users and fixed permissions so each user controlled their own folder, 
but no-one else could access their files.

Things were quiet-ish for the end of June and through July, redirected folders 
were working, no files disappearing, no odd permissions problems. Until 
yesterday.

Yesterday, we were notified that users were getting permissions problems trying 
to delete files from their desktop. Some people reported that they'd restarted 
and logging back in took, in some cases, hours. On a hunch, I looked at Group 
Policy.

Redirected folders policy had been changed - to something that looked like a 
vanilla, out-of-the-box setting produced by a wizard. Desktop and Documents 
were now pointing at 
\\SERVERNAME\Users\Folder 
Redirections\USERNAME. Downloads had no policy configuration set.

We're running Server 2012 R2 on this system. They've asked me to do what I can 
to prevent this from happening again - it's been rather disruptive - but this 
is a strange situation, and I'm at a loss to understand HOW this happened.

Hit me with suggestions - have you encountered a situation where group policy 
changed unexpectedly? What's your best guess for how something like this 
happens?

--Poppy


Poppy Lochridge
Technology Consultant
NetCorps
1385-B Oak Street
Eugene, OR 97401
541-465-1127 x4

po...@netcorps.org
http://www.netcorps.org




Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
HP's command set is similar to, but much simpler than Cisco's. The web
interfaces I've found to be mildly useful. I found it easy to transition
from Cisco to HP.

Juniper's command set is a good deal different than Cisco's, and I like it
more than I do Cisco's though it can be confusing until you get used to it.
But the Juniper web site has a pretty cool Cisco-to-Juniper translator than
can help, and the web interface, especially on the newest firmware, is
pretty darn nice. Also, there are two display modes for command output on
the Juniper - one of which is something like XML (the native interface, and
I'm growing to like it), and another using "display set", which shows a
more line-oriented output, more like Cisco's output.

Ubiquiti's don't have a terribly good command line - it's just easier to
use the web interface in most cases, and I haven't had much need for the
CLI on it. Bang for buck, they're very nice.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, J- P  wrote:

> Im by no means  a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service business  and
> that is all they  use , i dont do the full configs  as i just set them up,
> enable the port and web acces   (where applicable  ) and the "mother ship"
> takes over from there.
>
> Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper ,   but if the cli.is the
> same or similar im willimg.to explore
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?
>
> If not, then most anything will work.
>
> Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well
> experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively
> inexperienced with switches?
>
> If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity
> for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like
> Cisco or HP.
>
> Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else -
> they're otherwise fine switches.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Currently flat,
> 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
> 8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip
> cameras
>
> A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic
>
> i site  to site
>
> 4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers
> have 4 1 gb nics,
>
> primary internet is 100mb
> backup internet is 25mb
>
> about 20 concurrent  remote  users
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
> VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Got approval  for new core,
>
> Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
>
> TiA
>
> --
> From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +
>
> Core sort of implies layer 3.
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>  those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
> --
> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like
> this, but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on
> your equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes people get caught in a situation
> realizing the hard-way, that they are missing some expected functionality.
>
> As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the
> functionality.  Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.
>
>
> --
> Espi
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Looks like you hit the nail on the head, per this article i need either a
> 2nd switch, or use the firewall
>
>

RE: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread J- P
Asidr from the Cisco, who has the best support?

can i pick up the phone and get actual  human being on the phone? As this will 
become the core , support is a big.factor.

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:56:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

HP's command set is similar to, but much simpler than Cisco's. The web 
interfaces I've found to be mildly useful. I found it easy to transition from 
Cisco to HP.

Juniper's command set is a good deal different than Cisco's, and I like it more 
than I do Cisco's though it can be confusing until you get used to it. But the 
Juniper web site has a pretty cool Cisco-to-Juniper translator than can help, 
and the web interface, especially on the newest firmware, is pretty darn nice. 
Also, there are two display modes for command output on the Juniper - one of 
which is something like XML (the native interface, and I'm growing to like it), 
and another using "display set", which shows a more line-oriented output, more 
like Cisco's output.

Ubiquiti's don't have a terribly good command line - it's just easier to use 
the web interface in most cases, and I haven't had much need for the CLI on it. 
Bang for buck, they're very nice.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, J- P  wrote:



Im by no means  a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service business  and that is 
all they  use , i dont do the full configs  as i just set them up, enable the 
port and web acces   (where applicable  ) and the "mother ship" takes over from 
there.

Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper ,   but if the cli.is the same 
or similar im willimg.to explore

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?

If not, then most anything will work.

Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well 
experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively 
inexperienced with switches?

If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or 
Ubiquiti.

If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity for 
the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or Ubiquiti.

I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like 
Cisco or HP.

Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else - 
they're otherwise fine switches.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:



Currently flat,
60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip cameras

A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic

i site  to site

4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers have 
4 1 gb nics,

primary internet is 100mb 
backup internet is 25mb

about 20 concurrent  remote  users

From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many VLANs, 
how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:



Got approval  for new core, 

Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve , 
givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink ports  
does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ? 

TiA

From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +









Core sort of implies layer 3.


 


--

There are 10 kinds of people in the world...

 those who understand binary and those who don't.


 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of J- P

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5



 


Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core switch  -



maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better




From:
michealespin...@gmail.com

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com


Its been a long time since I've come across an equipment situation like this, 
but I've seen it before. When planned for, its a way to spend less on your 
equipment.  Unfortunately, sometimes
 people get caught in a situation realizing the hard-way, that they are missing 
some expected functionality.


 



As a last resort, I'd look into somehow hacking/activating the functionality.  
Perhaps an alternate firmware can be forced on it.










--

Espi


 





 


On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:53 PM, J- P  wrote:

Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5

2016-08-23 Thread Kurt Buff
If you have support contracts, I've had very good luck with both HP and
Juniper.

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:12 PM, J- P  wrote:

> Asidr from the Cisco, who has the best support?
>
> can i pick up the phone and get actual  human being on the phone? As this
> will become the core , support is a big.factor.
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:56:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> HP's command set is similar to, but much simpler than Cisco's. The web
> interfaces I've found to be mildly useful. I found it easy to transition
> from Cisco to HP.
>
> Juniper's command set is a good deal different than Cisco's, and I like it
> more than I do Cisco's though it can be confusing until you get used to it.
> But the Juniper web site has a pretty cool Cisco-to-Juniper translator than
> can help, and the web interface, especially on the newest firmware, is
> pretty darn nice. Also, there are two display modes for command output on
> the Juniper - one of which is something like XML (the native interface, and
> I'm growing to like it), and another using "display set", which shows a
> more line-oriented output, more like Cisco's output.
>
> Ubiquiti's don't have a terribly good command line - it's just easier to
> use the web interface in most cases, and I haven't had much need for the
> CLI on it. Bang for buck, they're very nice.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:28 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Im by no means  a ccna, but i do know Cisco as I service business  and
> that is all they  use , i dont do the full configs  as i just set them up,
> enable the port and web acces   (where applicable  ) and the "mother ship"
> takes over from there.
>
> Now ive never used Procurve , brocade, juniper ,   but if the cli.is the
> same or similar im willimg.to explore
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:00:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> Any CAD or video editing, or similar high-bandwidth data movers?
>
> If not, then most anything will work.
>
> Do you have a personal preference for any brand? That is, are you well
> experienced with a particular brand of switch, or are you relatively
> inexperienced with switches?
>
> If you have a preference, stick with it. If not, I'd suggest either HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> If the environment has big data movers, then check the backplane capacity
> for the various switches, and you might consider Juniper as well as HP or
> Ubiquiti.
>
> I'm becoming more a fan of Juniper all the time, but they aren't much like
> Cisco or HP.
>
> Cisco would be my last resort, because of price more than anything else -
> they're otherwise fine switches.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:33 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Currently flat,
> 60 workstations, 60 phones, 12 printers
> 8 AP's,  about 12 poe door buzzers, pa's and they will be getting 12 ip
> cameras
>
> A couple of synology that have 4 1gb nic
>
> i site  to site
>
> 4 physical  servers, 2 of them hyperv   (hosting 4 vms each ) both servers
> have 4 1 gb nics,
>
> primary internet is 100mb
> backup internet is 25mb
>
> about 20 concurrent  remote  users
>
> --
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:09:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] core suggestions was- VLAN dhcp issue Netgear
> GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
>
> How complex is the environment, how many staff are supported, how many
> VLANs, how much data moves across the LAN, what's the peak throughput, etc?
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:49 PM, J- P  wrote:
>
> Got approval  for new core,
>
> Im thinking  Cisco or Procurve ,
> givem that all other switches are netgear and only have 1gb  sfp uplink
> ports  does anyone have suggestions, opinions , reccomendations ?
>
> TiA
>
> --
> From: melvin.bac...@byers.com
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 18:23:04 +
>
> Core sort of implies layer 3.
>
> --
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world...
>  those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:17 PM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
>
> Hmm, hack, alternative ,  not words  i feel comfy with when its a core
> switch  -
>
> maybe  I'll  get them to buy something better
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> From: michealespin...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 22:50:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VLAN dhcp issue Netgear GS748Tv5
> To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> Its been a long time since I've come across an equ