[NTSysADM] UC bridge w/ Skype for Business

2016-06-03 Thread Ferguson, Chris 
Hi All:

We're looking at changing our Unified Communications Bridge cloud provider - 
we've noticed several problems with the solution we're currently using 
regarding video quality and screen sharing.

We have 2 platforms in mind and we were wondering anyone on this list has a 
Cisco and/or Polycom hardware solution that they're currently using that 
wouldn't mind reaching out to us to test functionality and voice, video, and 
screen share call quality - as we're 100% Lync deployed, we don't have the 
requisite hardware to conduct our own test.

We already have trial licenses with these providers... all that is missing is a 
test with how the provider works with "the other side".

Thanks for any help here.

-Chris

Chris Ferguson
IT Manager, Infrastructure and Operations

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: End user data - local, cloud, home directories, and OneDrive, Oh my!

2016-06-03 Thread Jonathan Raper 
Ah. As they say:

1. a picture is worth a thousand words
2. trust, but verifyAnother teammate is actually driving the testing, 
and he kept swearing that selective sync didn't work the way we thought it did 
on the NGSC. I just walked over to his desk, asked him to bring it up, and had 
him walk me through it. I had to show him that yes indeed it did work the way 
we envisioned.

*headdesk*

Thanks everyone. This might indeed be the last piece to our puzzle. To whoever 
mentioned backup, version history, recycle bin and second stage recycle bin may 
very well meet our needs.

Jonathan

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Gestwicki
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 2:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: End user data - local, cloud, home directories, and 
OneDrive, Oh my!

I agree with Art. He makes a VERY good point about syncing site libraries from 
SharePoint.

The part you may be missing is that the NGSC allows you to do a selective sync. 
You could create a "Local files" folder and only sync that for users with more 
space used in their OneDrive folder then they have on their local hard drive. I 
also think that you are going to have to work out a similar solution for those 
users no matter what cloud storage you use.
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- Stephen

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Art DeKneef
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:11 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: End user data - local, cloud, home directories, and 
OneDrive, Oh my!

I think you're missing a lot.

What Office365 plan do you have? That makes a difference to some of your points 
below, like archiving.

You moved your project data to SharePoint included with your Office 365 plan? 
Are you using site libraries and want to sync those libraries? If so, then you 
still need to use the old One Drive for Business client (that's called 
groove.exe). The new One Drive for Business client is called OneDrive.exe.

What exactly are you trying to achieve with your end user data? At one point 
you talk about all of it being stored on One Drive for Business. Another point 
you say you can't do that because of some OneDrive limitation on hard drive 
size.

Where have you got the information that One Drive for Business is limited to 
the space on a user's hard drive? You get 1 TB of space per user on OneDrive 
with any Office 365 business or enterprise subscription. That's not limited to 
hard drive size. Now if you are trying to sync all the user data, then that 
will cause the issue you mention. But It doesn't appear to be clear to me.

Do these mobile users, or the people with limited hard drive space, need access 
to all the data all the time? If so, then you have a problem. You and them are 
going to have to make some hard choices on what gets synced and what doesn't. 
Also, how are you planning to make sure that their data is saved to OneDrive 
for Business?

How are you planning to back up all this user data on OneDrive?

Art

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Raper
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 10:05 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: End user data - local, cloud, home directories, and 
OneDrive, Oh my!

Thanks Stephen,

We're actually still testing and not officially supporting the use of it 
because Microsoft keeps changing it up and promising new features/functionality 
with the next release (yes, I know that's what we bought into with O365, 
but like I said in my original post, it (OneDrive for Business) still feels not 
quite fully baked). We have worked with the NGSC, and it fixes a lot, but we 
still end up with the quandary of data on the endpoint versus data on a server 
share/home directory (or external hard drive). Some of our users simply don't 
have enough local space on their hard drive to store everything

And the way I understand it, the storage on One Drive for Business is still 
limited to the amount of space you have on your local machine, even with the 
Next Gen Sync Client. So, if you have 500 Gigs of data and your local drive is 
only 250, you can't put everything on OneDrive, which in my opion defeats the 
purpose.

Or am I missing something?

Thanks,

Jonathan

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Gestwicki
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 1:04 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: End user data - local, cloud, home directories, and 
OneDrive, Oh my!

It sounds to me like you are not using the OneDrive for Business Next 
Generatio

RE: [NTSysADM] Vipre

2016-06-03 Thread Alexander Eckelberry 
Sunbelt Exchange Archiver is a different team – it’s managed by Metalogix; if 
you’re referring to GFI Archiver, that also is a different team.

The products that really took the hit in the acquisition were the VIPRE line. 
Most of the other stuff should be fine.


Alex


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 7:32 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Vipre

Interesting, I have been a longtime Email Archiver user first with you and 
continuing on with GFI.  We go back to 2007 or 8.  So far that product has 
survived the transition very well.   Good updates and good support.

Maybe that team survived the transition.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Alexander Eckelberry
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:20 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Vipre


As the former CEO of Sunbelt Software (now ThreatTrack Security) and the person 
originally responsible for VIPRE and all of the other Sunbelt Software products 
(with Stu Sjouwerman having started the distribution side of Sunbelt), I can 
only apologize for what has happened to the product. I have had many friends 
(and family members) with similar stories.  It is painful.



I left 4 years ago. The original team and malware lab at ThreatTrack is 
essentially gone.



VIPRE is now reportedly using the BitDefender engine.



Most of the original VIPRE team is now at Malwarebytes.  A few people are at 
KnowBe4 (Stu's new company).



I am now on the board of Malwarebytes and personally use and recommend their 
product, which is moving to a full enterprise endpoint solution. I'm also on 
the board of Knowbe4.



Both Knowbe4 and Malwarebytes have the original spirit of Sunbelt, of which we 
were so proud of.



Perhaps one day I'll tell the full story.



So yeah, I'm bummed to hear this as well.





Alex Eckelberry


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Sullivan
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:37 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Vipre

We switched from VIPRE to Bitdefender about 1.5 years ago. Much better 
experience!

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Mark Gottschalk 
mailto:mgo...@2roads.com>> wrote:
Trend Micro Officescan.  Device control, web reputation, behavior monitoring, 
new ransomware process blocking as well as document protection against 
unauthorized encryption, etc.   Been happy for quite a few years.

-- Mark





From:Gavin Wilby 
mailto:gavin.wi...@smppartners.com>>
To:
"'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com'" 
mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com>>
Date:04/19/2016 01:16 AM
Subject:RE: [NTSysADM] Vipre
Sent by:
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>>




I used to, but I have seen this allow a few things through that it really 
shouldn’t have done.

We are back on SEPM here, works just fine. The device and access control is an 
added bonus too.

Gavin Wilby
IT Support Engineer


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: 18 April 2016 18:29
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Vipre

I've been recommending Kaspersky for a couple of years now.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 10:20 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Vipre
That's sad.

We migrated from them to ESET a few months ago. ESET functions fine, but man in 
their console not intuitive - way more complex and difficult to navigate than 
VIPRE.

Kurt

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
> Man Vipre support sure has gone downhill. Wishing I had not bought a
> lifetime license. Product keep crashing my Outlook. I followed their
> support article, uninstall everything, deleted all the Outlook files
> from my profile, reinstalled Outlook, reinstalled Vipre and boom
> crash. I contact support and they tell me to do all that again. I tell
> them no way, I have 6 main Office 365 email accounts and I am not going 
> through all that again.
>
>
>
> Sheez
>
>
>
>
>
> Webster
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RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

2016-06-03 Thread Kennedy, Jim 
One more idea.  Delprof2 can handle long file paths at times. Just delete this 
users profile with it.

https://helgeklein.com/free-tools/delprof2-user-profile-deletion-tool/


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Neil Standley
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:25 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

Sadly Linux Mint was not up to the task. 

I'm not a linux guru by any means but even when su'd to root it wasn't working. 
The xfce file browser (Thunar) acted like it was going to work but just sits 
there with a message of "preparing", I left it that way for over an hour and it 
never indicated progress.

And sudo rm -rf /dir returned a message indicating it couldn't find the 
directory, even when I was running the command from within the parent folder 
and could see it there.

I'm not sure what else is left to try, but I'm going to cut my losses and 
backup/reformat this machine at my client's earliest convenience.

Thanks for everyone's input.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Gavin Wilby
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 2:48 AM
To: 'ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com' 
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

A linux boot disk might be able to do this??

Gavin Wilby
IT Support Engineer


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: 01 June 2016 22:11
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

Yea, it isn't going to be fun.

Shift Delete, or turn off Recycle Bin.

Install 7-Zip, it's file manager will often help with this.

Via dos Del /X with the short path name.

Robocopy with the purge option.

That's about all I got on that issue.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] on behalf 
of Neil Standley [standl...@cascadiainfotek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 4:26 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

Easier said than done. I've been trying to delete it but running in to 
difficulties in doing so.

As mentioned, subst was taking forever to show the drive letter. Using Robocopy 
with /MIR was crashing after a period of time, and 7-Zip file manager would 
also become unresponsive.

I cannot simply delete the folder through Windows Explorer because the path is 
too long and results in the error "the source file names are larger than is 
supported by the file system."



Neil


-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:48 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

I don't see how this folder structure is even valid and needed.  I would just 
delete it.

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Neil Standley
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:47 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

No, my client uses Outlook exclusively.

As mentioned before, the PC was just restored to the factory image, Office 2013 
was installed immediately and then patching commenced. Windows Mail has not 
been used on this machine.



Neil

-Original Message-
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:16 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue

Do you even use Windows mail?



On 6/1/2016 12:02 PM, Neil Standley wrote:
>
> I cannot browse the full path, it's 1600+ folders deep, multiplied by
> 9 characters in each folder = 14,643 characters in the path, and that 
> doesn't include the initial path from 
> "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\".
>
> All total, with backslash characters it's 16,341, a tad more than 
> Windows' 260 character limits can handle.
>
> I'm not certain the setuperr log includes the whole path, it may have 
> truncated because setup encountered the issue and exited.
>
> Neil Standley
> Cascadia Infotek
> 2516 Holgate St
> Tacoma, WA  98402
> Main #: 253.683.4216
> Desk #: 253.683.4226
>
> standl...@cascadiainfotek.com 
> Formerly Net-Venture
>
>
> https://owa.nventure.com/img/CascadiaInfotek_Logo_RGB_Web_sm.jpg
> 
>
> *From:*listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher 
> Baio
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:44 AM
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Windows 10 upgrade issue
>
> What's preventing you from moving the

RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer

2016-06-03 Thread J- P 
+1 on SC

  

Jean-Paul Natola

 


From: mich...@smithcons.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 17:39:14 +









I left it earlier this year after a significant price hike. I moved to 
ScreenConnect. I’m quite pleased with the move.
 


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Alexander Eckelberry

Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:07 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer


 
I’ve moved to Chrome Remote Desktop. Teamviewer has become a different product 
since I left.

 
From:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:53 PM

Subject: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer
 


http://www.inquisitr.com/3156809/teamviewer-accounts-hacked-users-claim/



 


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/01/teamviewer_mass_breach_report/


 


If you are a TeamViewer user, with a TeamViewer account, then now would be a 
good time to change passwords and enable two-factor (if not already in place).













​The timing of the DNS DDoS is still very suspicious to me...

Regards,

 ASB


 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker 

 Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market… 

 GPG: 1AF3 EEC3 7C3C E88E B0EF 4319 8F28 A483 A182 EF3A

[NTSysADM] Perimeter Protection dual FW

2016-06-03 Thread J- P 

Hi all,


A few years back a voip vendor came to a site to 
install 3CX, at the time he claimed the Sonicwalls "didn't play well" so
 for the 3CX (VOIP) server he installed a Cisco RV02 (or something to 
that affect), so the current design is as follows;



isp 1 (fiber)> switch >  1 line to Cisco , 1 line to Draytek  (50 meg)

isp2 (cable)> switch > 1 line to Cisco,1 line to Draytek   (25 meg)


The client finally has agreed that an  additional  "Perimeter" defense  layer 
should be added 

(oh did I mention one of his friends got hit by randsomeware 😁 ) I bet that was 
influential in his decision-

So the question now remains , is there a way  to have ONE service protect both? 
or should we toss the the second firewall and stick to one? 

And either way, what would  you recommend  keeping in mind the client  only has 
a total aggregate bandwidth of 75  megs

any thoughts , feedback recommendations are greatly appreciated

TIA
JP

RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer

2016-06-03 Thread J- P 
and ++1 and the unique branding URL that is included-

Its nice to tell a client go to "myname.screenconnect.com"  and join the 
session 😉



 


From: jnat...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 19:43:48 -0400




+1 on SC

  

Jean-Paul Natola

 


From: mich...@smithcons.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 17:39:14 +









I left it earlier this year after a significant price hike. I moved to 
ScreenConnect. I’m quite pleased with the move.
 


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Alexander Eckelberry

Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 1:07 PM

To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer


 
I’ve moved to Chrome Remote Desktop. Teamviewer has become a different product 
since I left.

 
From:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:53 PM

Subject: [NTSysADM] TeamViewer
 


http://www.inquisitr.com/3156809/teamviewer-accounts-hacked-users-claim/



 


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/01/teamviewer_mass_breach_report/


 


If you are a TeamViewer user, with a TeamViewer account, then now would be a 
good time to change passwords and enable two-factor (if not already in place).













​The timing of the DNS DDoS is still very suspicious to me...

Regards,

 ASB


 http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker 

 Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market… 

 GPG: 1AF3 EEC3 7C3C E88E B0EF 4319 8F28 A483 A182 EF3A

Re: [NTSysADM] Perimeter Protection dual FW

2016-06-03 Thread Ferguson, Chris 
Sonicwalls "didn't play well" --- I... I don't get the joke here.

I'm using sonicwalls as an HA pair for this exact use case - only 4ISPs.

We're using 2 ISPs for our VoIP deployment.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:13 PM, J- P 
mailto:jnat...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Hi all,


A few years back a voip vendor came to a site to install 3CX, at the time he 
claimed the Sonicwalls "didn't play well" so for the 3CX (VOIP) server he 
installed a Cisco RV02 (or something to that affect), so the current design is 
as follows;



isp 1 (fiber)> switch >  1 line to Cisco , 1 line to Draytek  (50 meg)

isp2 (cable)> switch > 1 line to Cisco,1 line to Draytek   (25 meg)


The client finally has agreed that an  additional  "Perimeter" defense  layer 
should be added

(oh did I mention one of his friends got hit by randsomeware [Emoji]  ) I bet 
that was influential in his decision-

So the question now remains , is there a way  to have ONE service protect both? 
or should we toss the the second firewall and stick to one?

And either way, what would  you recommend  keeping in mind the client  only has 
a total aggregate bandwidth of 75  megs

any thoughts , feedback recommendations are greatly appreciated

TIA
JP

RE: [NTSysADM] Windows7/10 mapped drive disconnects

2016-06-03 Thread Poppy Lochridge 
As it happened….

We think the mapped drive disconnects were being caused by an improperly 
configured Virtual Switch in Hyper-V. The settings appeared to be trying to do 
some kind of failover between the network connection the server was on and the 
connection the virtual machines use.

We finally caught it when we couldn’t ping the printers from the server – was 
clear there was something wrong with the network setup.

--P

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Poppy Lochridge
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Windows7/10 mapped drive disconnects

That we have.

To answer some of the other suggestions – there *might* be Offline files 
involved – I’ll check that out today. They started with a pretty default SBS 
server setup, and Offline Files is, I think, a default.
And if that doesn’t give us any results, we will try a logon script.

--Poppy

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 2:22 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Windows7/10 mapped drive disconnects

Have you also implemented autodisconnect settings on the server-side?

--
Espi


On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Poppy Lochridge 
mailto:po...@netcorps.org>> wrote:
Greetings,

We have a client organization who’s experiencing a problem none of us have seen 
before.

They have a new fileserver – Windows 2012 R2 – and drives mapped via GPO.
As users are working, their mapped drives periodically disconnect – drive icon 
acquires the red “X” and any database programs open (including accounting) 
starts tossing out errors, forcing them to close the databases to continue.
Most of the time, if they just open the mapped drive, Windows reconnects and 
they can re-open what they were working on. Occasionally, they instead get the 
error indicating that the device is in use. Very similar to the old issue 
documented in https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/297684

This wasn’t happening on their old server – a Windows SBS 2008 system. It’s not 
been a smooth migration – we’re still pulling services off of the old system 
and trying to get it decommissioned without taking them down. It also isn’t 
happening on any other network we’re aware of – not ours, nor any other clients 
with similar combinations of systems.

We’ve implemented the “autodisconnect” setting, but it isn’t resolving the 
problem. Wondering if anyone here is encountered something similar?

--P

Poppy Lochridge
Senior Technology Consultant
NetCorps
1245 Pearl Street
Eugene, OR 97401
541-465-1127 x104

po...@netcorps.org
http://www.netcorps.org

RE: [NTSysADM] Perimeter Protection dual FW

2016-06-03 Thread J- P 
I had nothing to do with that (personally, I think he didnt know how to work 
the SW, but that's just IMO)

anywho, do you have any recommendations ?

thx

  




From: cfergu...@nepc.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Perimeter Protection dual FW
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 00:16:57 +






Sonicwalls "didn't play well" --- I... I don't get the joke here. 



I'm using sonicwalls as an HA pair for this exact use case - only 4ISPs. 



We're using 2 ISPs for our VoIP deployment. 


Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:13 PM, J- P  wrote:








Hi all,





A few years back a voip vendor came to a site to install 3CX, at the time he 
claimed the Sonicwalls "didn't play well" so for the 3CX (VOIP) server he 
installed a Cisco RV02 (or something to that affect), so the current design is 
as follows;







isp 1 (fiber)> switch >  1 line to Cisco , 1 line to Draytek  (50 meg)



isp2 (cable)> switch > 1 line to Cisco,1 line to Draytek   (25 meg)





The client finally has agreed that an  additional  "Perimeter" defense  layer 
should be added




(oh did I mention one of his friends got hit by randsomeware 😁 ) I bet that was 
influential in his decision-



So the question now remains , is there a way  to have ONE service protect both? 
or should we toss the the second firewall and stick to one?




And either way, what would  you recommend  keeping in mind the client  only has 
a total aggregate bandwidth of 75  megs



any thoughts , feedback recommendations are greatly appreciated



TIA

JP