Re: [nexa] The US government wants devs to stop using C and C++ • The Register

2024-11-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli 
On Sat, Nov 09, 2024 at 07:17:16PM +0100, Enrico Nardelli wrote:
> https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/08/the_us_government_wants_developers/
> 
> ...  the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the
> Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI announced they were doubling down on
> their efforts to persuade software manufacturers to abandon "memory-unsafe"
> programming languages such as C and C++  ...

La ricerca in sicurezza (più nella sua accezione "safety", in inglese,
che "security") è ormai inequivocabile sul fatto che niente riduce
quantitativamente le potenziali vulnerabilità in programmi scritti a
livello sistema ("systems programming") quanto l'uso di linguaggi che,
intrinsecamente, impediscono l'uso insicuro della memoria.  Non posso
quindi dare loro torto.

Ma l'aspetto più interessante qui è che un governo abbia un'opinione in
materia. Giusta o sbagliata che sia, il governo italiano ha un'opinione
su come rendere più sicuro il software strategicamente importante per il
paese nei prossimi 10-20 anni? (Mi scuso per la domanda retorica.)

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[nexa] The Semantic Hub Hypothesis: Language Models Share Semantic Representations Across Languages and Modalities

2024-11-11 Thread Fabio Alemagna 
Z Wu, X V Yu, D Yogatama, J Lu, Y Kim
MIT & University of Southern California 2024
https://arxiv.org/abs/2411.04986

The "Semantic Hub Hypothesis" explores how modern language models, such as
those used for translation or understanding multiple languages and data
types, manage to handle such diverse inputs. These models are trained on a
variety of data—different languages, mathematical expressions, computer
code, even visual or audio inputs. The researchers propose that language
models create a shared space where similar meanings or concepts are placed
close to each other, regardless of whether the input comes from a different
language or format (like text vs. audio).
This idea is inspired by a concept in neuroscience called the hub-and-spoke
model. In the human brain, we organize knowledge in a central hub that
brings together information from specialized areas, or "spokes," like
visual or auditory centers. The authors suggest that language models use a
similar strategy: they create a "semantic hub" where different kinds of
data can be processed in a unified way.
The researchers found that when language models process semantically
similar ideas—say, the same word in two different languages—their internal
workings look quite similar in intermediate layers. This holds true not
just for languages, but also for things like math and code. The model's
dominant training language can be used to interpret these similarities.
They also discovered that changes in this shared space for one type of data
(like text) predictably affect how the model processes other types of data
(like audio or math), showing that this shared space is not just a side
effect of training on lots of data. Instead, it's something the model
actively uses to understand and respond to inputs across different
languages and modalities.
In summary, the Semantic Hub Hypothesis suggests that language models, much
like the human brain, use a shared "hub" to connect and interpret
information from various data types, making them highly adaptable and
efficient in processing diverse kinds of input.

[nexa] Bruce Schneier sulla "Open Source AI" di OSI

2024-11-11 Thread Roberto Resoli 
Bruce Schneier si unisce ai critici della definizione OSI di IA Open 
Source, riferendone nel suo blog:


https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/11/ai-industry-is-trying-to-subvert-the-definition-of-open-source-ai.html

... e non ci va giù piano:

> The Open Source Initiative has published (news article here) its 
definition of “open source AI,” and it’s terrible. It allows for secret 
training data and mechanisms. It allows for development to be done in 
secret. Since for a neural network, the training data is the source 
code—it’s how the model gets programmed—the definition makes no sense.

> ...

Nell'articolo ci sono molti link ad altrettante critiche (anche di 
Debian[1], ad esempio).


rob

[1] 
https://samjohnston.org/2024/10/22/debian-general-resolution-gr-drafted-opposing-osis-open-source-ai-definition-osaid/

Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)

2024-11-11 Thread Antonio Casilli 
Sarebbe una grande cosa. Appena abbiamo una data di uscita internazionale ne 
riparliamo.

- Original Message -
From: "maurizio lana" 
To: "Antonio Casilli" 
Cc: "nexa" 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 8:17:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer & 
Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)

in attesa del distributore,
potrebbe essere proiettato in uno dei mercoledì di Nexa?
Maurizio

Il 11/11/24 02:17, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:
> ..si aspetta che un distributore italiano se lo compri!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: maurizio
> To: nexa
> Date: Sunday, 10 November 2024 11:08 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online 
> Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)
>
>
> ...per vederlo in Italia?
> Maurizio
>
>
> Il 10/11/24 16:56, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:
>> In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation
>>
>>
>>In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation
>>
>> Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I am excited to share with you the trailer of our upcoming documentary
>> *In the Belly of AI*
>> ,
>> which examines the human and environmental costs of artificial
>> intelligence through the stories and experiences of the people who
>> shape the technologies that affect our daily lives.
>>
>> Documentary Screenshot
>>
>> The documentary is directed by *Henri Poulain*, and co-written by
>> *Julien Goetz* and yours truly. Officially scheduled for release in
>> 2025, it is produced by France Télévisions and set to be distributed
>> in the UK by the BBC. It has been shortlisted for the Sundance Film
>> Festival.
>>
>> Sundance Film Festival
>>
>> We will preview the documentary on Tuesday, November 12, 2024, at
>> Churchill College, University of Cambridge, as part of a workshop
>> co-organized with the /Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy/.
>>
>> The workshop will feature speakers Ana Valdivia (Oxford Internet
>> Institute) and Adio Dinika (Distributed AI Research Institute), along
>> with discussants Debangana Bose (Dept. of Geography, Cambridge) and
>> Alex Wood (Dept. of Sociology, Cambridge). Following the workshop,
>> there will be an open conversation with author James Muldoon
>> (University of Essex) about his new book, /Feeding the Machine: The
>> Hidden Human Labour Powering AI/, co-authored with Mark Graham and
>> Callum Cant.
>>
>>
>>  Workshop: In the Belly of AI
>>
>> *Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 14:30 – 17:00 | *Location:*
>> Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS
>>
>>
>>Programme:
>>
>> *14:30 – 14:40* – Welcome: Professor Gina Neff, Executive Director of
>> Minderoo Centre for Technology & Democracy
>> *14:40 – 15:00* – Presentation: Professor Antonio A. Casilli,
>> Professor of Sociology, Institut Polytechnique de Paris and By-Fellow
>> Churchill College, University of Cambridge
>> *15:00 – 15:05* – Excerpt 1: In the Belly of AI
>> *15:05 – 16:00* – Roundtable: ‘Data Workers’ Inquiry: Community-led
>> Research into AI Labour Practices’ | Led by: Dr Adio-Adet Dinika
>> (Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR)) | Discussant: Dr Alex Wood
>> (Sociology, University of Cambridge)
>> *16:00 – 16:05* – Excerpt 2: In the Belly of AI
>> *16:05 – 17:00* – Roundtable: ‘AI Supply Chain Capitalism: Rethinking
>> Algorithmic Harms Through an Environmental Lens’ | Led by: Dr Ana
>> Valdivia (Oxford Internet Institute and UCL Centre for Capitalism
>> Studies) | Discussant: Dr Debangana Bose (Geography, University of
>> Cambridge)
>>
>> Workshop Image
>>
>>
>>
>>  Open Conversation: In the Belly of AI / Feeding the Machine
>>
>> *Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 17:30 – 18:30 BST | *Location:*
>> Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS
>>
>>
>>Programme:
>>
>> *17:30* – Welcome
>> *17:35* – Viewing: Excerpt from In the Belly of AI
>> *17:40-18:30* – In conversation: Professor Antonio Casilli and Dr.
>> James Muldoon on In the Belly of AI and Feeding the Machine**
>>
>> --
>> Antonio A. Casilli
>> Professor, Telecom Paris | Institut Polytechnique de Paris
>> By-Fellow, Churchill College | University of Cambridge
>> My upcoming book: /Waiting for Robots. The Hired Hands of Automation/
>>  
>> (University of Chicago Press, 2025)
>>
>
> 
>
> manutenzione della felicità comune
> michela murgia
>
> 
> Maurizio Lana
> Università del Piemonte Orientale
> Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
> Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli




dialogare tra di noi per costruire una democrazia,
l’unica istituzione di

Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)

2024-11-11 Thread J.C. DE MARTIN 

fantastico, grazie!
jc


On 11/11/24 13:22, Antonio Casilli wrote:

Sarebbe una grande cosa. Appena abbiamo una data di uscita internazionale ne 
riparliamo.

- Original Message -
From: "maurizio lana" 
To: "Antonio Casilli" 
Cc: "nexa" 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 8:17:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer & 
Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)

in attesa del distributore,
potrebbe essere proiettato in uno dei mercoledì di Nexa?
Maurizio

Il 11/11/24 02:17, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:

..si aspetta che un distributore italiano se lo compri!


-Original Message-
From: maurizio
To: nexa
Date: Sunday, 10 November 2024 11:08 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer 
& Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)


...per vederlo in Italia?
Maurizio


Il 10/11/24 16:56, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:

In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation


In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation

Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024

Dear all,

I am excited to share with you the trailer of our upcoming documentary
*In the Belly of AI*
,
which examines the human and environmental costs of artificial
intelligence through the stories and experiences of the people who
shape the technologies that affect our daily lives.

Documentary Screenshot

The documentary is directed by *Henri Poulain*, and co-written by
*Julien Goetz* and yours truly. Officially scheduled for release in
2025, it is produced by France Télévisions and set to be distributed
in the UK by the BBC. It has been shortlisted for the Sundance Film
Festival.

Sundance Film Festival

We will preview the documentary on Tuesday, November 12, 2024, at
Churchill College, University of Cambridge, as part of a workshop
co-organized with the /Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy/.

The workshop will feature speakers Ana Valdivia (Oxford Internet
Institute) and Adio Dinika (Distributed AI Research Institute), along
with discussants Debangana Bose (Dept. of Geography, Cambridge) and
Alex Wood (Dept. of Sociology, Cambridge). Following the workshop,
there will be an open conversation with author James Muldoon
(University of Essex) about his new book, /Feeding the Machine: The
Hidden Human Labour Powering AI/, co-authored with Mark Graham and
Callum Cant.


  Workshop: In the Belly of AI

*Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 14:30 – 17:00 | *Location:*
Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS


Programme:

*14:30 – 14:40* – Welcome: Professor Gina Neff, Executive Director of
Minderoo Centre for Technology & Democracy
*14:40 – 15:00* – Presentation: Professor Antonio A. Casilli,
Professor of Sociology, Institut Polytechnique de Paris and By-Fellow
Churchill College, University of Cambridge
*15:00 – 15:05* – Excerpt 1: In the Belly of AI
*15:05 – 16:00* – Roundtable: ‘Data Workers’ Inquiry: Community-led
Research into AI Labour Practices’ | Led by: Dr Adio-Adet Dinika
(Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR)) | Discussant: Dr Alex Wood
(Sociology, University of Cambridge)
*16:00 – 16:05* – Excerpt 2: In the Belly of AI
*16:05 – 17:00* – Roundtable: ‘AI Supply Chain Capitalism: Rethinking
Algorithmic Harms Through an Environmental Lens’ | Led by: Dr Ana
Valdivia (Oxford Internet Institute and UCL Centre for Capitalism
Studies) | Discussant: Dr Debangana Bose (Geography, University of
Cambridge)

Workshop Image



  Open Conversation: In the Belly of AI / Feeding the Machine

*Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 17:30 – 18:30 BST | *Location:*
Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS


Programme:

*17:30* – Welcome
*17:35* – Viewing: Excerpt from In the Belly of AI
*17:40-18:30* – In conversation: Professor Antonio Casilli and Dr.
James Muldoon on In the Belly of AI and Feeding the Machine**

--
Antonio A. Casilli
Professor, Telecom Paris | Institut Polytechnique de Paris
By-Fellow, Churchill College | University of Cambridge
My upcoming book: /Waiting for Robots. The Hired Hands of Automation/

(University of Chicago Press, 2025)




manutenzione della felicità comune
michela murgia


Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli




dialogare tra di noi per costruire una democrazia,
l’unica istituzione di vita comune
che non sia fondata sulla paura di morire
michel dardenne


Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi

Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)

2024-11-11 Thread maurizio lana 

in attesa del distributore,
potrebbe essere proiettato in uno dei mercoledì di Nexa?
Maurizio

Il 11/11/24 02:17, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:

..si aspetta che un distributore italiano se lo compri!


-Original Message-
From: maurizio
To: nexa
Date: Sunday, 10 November 2024 11:08 PM GMT
Subject: Re: [nexa] Documentary "In the Belly of AI" (Online Trailer 
& Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024)


...per vederlo in Italia?
Maurizio


Il 10/11/24 16:56, Antonio Casilli ha scritto:

In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation


   In the Belly of AI: A Documentary on the Real Price of Automation

Online Trailer & Workshop, Cambridge, 12 Nov. 2024

Dear all,

I am excited to share with you the trailer of our upcoming documentary
*In the Belly of AI*
,
which examines the human and environmental costs of artificial
intelligence through the stories and experiences of the people who
shape the technologies that affect our daily lives.

Documentary Screenshot

The documentary is directed by *Henri Poulain*, and co-written by
*Julien Goetz* and yours truly. Officially scheduled for release in
2025, it is produced by France Télévisions and set to be distributed
in the UK by the BBC. It has been shortlisted for the Sundance Film
Festival.

Sundance Film Festival

We will preview the documentary on Tuesday, November 12, 2024, at
Churchill College, University of Cambridge, as part of a workshop
co-organized with the /Minderoo Centre for Technology and Democracy/.

The workshop will feature speakers Ana Valdivia (Oxford Internet
Institute) and Adio Dinika (Distributed AI Research Institute), along
with discussants Debangana Bose (Dept. of Geography, Cambridge) and
Alex Wood (Dept. of Sociology, Cambridge). Following the workshop,
there will be an open conversation with author James Muldoon
(University of Essex) about his new book, /Feeding the Machine: The
Hidden Human Labour Powering AI/, co-authored with Mark Graham and
Callum Cant.


 Workshop: In the Belly of AI

*Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 14:30 – 17:00 | *Location:*
Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS


   Programme:

*14:30 – 14:40* – Welcome: Professor Gina Neff, Executive Director of
Minderoo Centre for Technology & Democracy
*14:40 – 15:00* – Presentation: Professor Antonio A. Casilli,
Professor of Sociology, Institut Polytechnique de Paris and By-Fellow
Churchill College, University of Cambridge
*15:00 – 15:05* – Excerpt 1: In the Belly of AI
*15:05 – 16:00* – Roundtable: ‘Data Workers’ Inquiry: Community-led
Research into AI Labour Practices’ | Led by: Dr Adio-Adet Dinika
(Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR)) | Discussant: Dr Alex Wood
(Sociology, University of Cambridge)
*16:00 – 16:05* – Excerpt 2: In the Belly of AI
*16:05 – 17:00* – Roundtable: ‘AI Supply Chain Capitalism: Rethinking
Algorithmic Harms Through an Environmental Lens’ | Led by: Dr Ana
Valdivia (Oxford Internet Institute and UCL Centre for Capitalism
Studies) | Discussant: Dr Debangana Bose (Geography, University of
Cambridge)

Workshop Image



 Open Conversation: In the Belly of AI / Feeding the Machine

*Date:* Tuesday, 12 Nov 2024 | *Time:* 17:30 – 18:30 BST | *Location:*
Sixties Room, Churchill College, Storey’s Way, Cambridge CB3 0DS


   Programme:

*17:30* – Welcome
*17:35* – Viewing: Excerpt from In the Belly of AI
*17:40-18:30* – In conversation: Professor Antonio Casilli and Dr.
James Muldoon on In the Belly of AI and Feeding the Machine**

--
Antonio A. Casilli
Professor, Telecom Paris | Institut Polytechnique de Paris
By-Fellow, Churchill College | University of Cambridge
My upcoming book: /Waiting for Robots. The Hired Hands of Automation/
 
(University of Chicago Press, 2025)






manutenzione della felicità comune
michela murgia


Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli





dialogare tra di noi per costruire una democrazia,
l’unica istituzione di vita comune
che non sia fondata sulla paura di morire
michel dardenne


Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli

Re: [nexa] The US government wants devs to stop using C and C++ • The Register

2024-11-11 Thread Giuseppe Attardi 
Basterebbe usassero il mio gestore di memoria CMM (Customizable Memory Management), che è stato utilizzato anche nell’implementazione di Java.A customisable memory management framework for C++onlinelibrary.wiley.com— BeppeOn 9 Nov 2024, at 19:17, nexa-requ...@server-nexa.polito.it wrote:https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/08/the_us_government_wants_developers/...  the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI announced they were doubling down on their efforts to persuade software manufacturers to abandon "memory-unsafe" programming languages such as C and C++  ...The report on Product Security Bad Practices  warns software manufacturers about developing "new product lines for use in service of critical infrastructure or [national critical functions] NCFs in a memory-unsafe language (eg, C or C++) where there are readily available alternative memory-safe languages that could be used is dangerous and significantly elevates risk to national security, national economic security, and national public health and safety."In short, don't use C or C++.   ...-- EN

[nexa] Dalla cyber security alla cyber salute: il Governo delega ai poteri digitali il controllo dei dati sulle nostre cure - HuffPost Italia

2024-11-11 Thread don Luca Peyron 
https://www.huffingtonpost.it/blog/2024/11/11/news/il_governo_delega_ai_poteri_digitali_il_controllo_dei_dati_sulle_nostre_cure_dalla_cyber_security_siamo_ormai_alla_cyber_sa-17689578/