Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Tim Hill
>From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.misc
Subject: Re: London Show news
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:20

In article , Peter Young
 wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2016  Tim Hill  wrote:

> > In article <4ec82cef55.br...@helpful.demon.co.uk>, Bryan Hogan
> >  wrote:
> >> Although the Events Calendar doesn't work in NetSurf, so also have a
> >> nomination in the Broken Cog category :-D

> > It does, why have you got javascript switched on?  ;-)

> > Fixed that for you:

> > http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
> again.

Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content Choice
option.

#3798 works as expected.

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill  wrote:

>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
>> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
>> again.

> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content Choice
> option.

> #3798 works as expected.

Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC)

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Richard Porter
 wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill  wrote:

> >>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

> >> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
> >> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
> >> again.

> > Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
> > rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

> > You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content
> > Choice option.

> > #3798 works as expected.

> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC)

Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'.

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Peter Young
On 16 Dec 2016  Tim Hill  wrote:

> In article , Richard Porter
>  wrote:
>> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill  wrote:

> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

 Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
 though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
 again.

>>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
>>> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

>>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content
>>> Choice option.

>>> #3798 works as expected.

>> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC)

> Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'.

How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me 
that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that 
it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen?

Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm 
running?

I only asked :-)

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Brian Jordan
In article ,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 16 Dec 2016  Tim Hill  wrote:

> > In article , Richard Porter
> >  wrote:
> >> On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill  wrote:

> > http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

>  Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
>  though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
>  again.

> >>> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
> >>> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

> >>> You shouldn't need to quit, only reload after SETting that Content
> >>> Choice option.

> >>> #3798 works as expected.

> >> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC)

> > Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'.

> How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me 
> that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that 
> it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen?

> Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm 
> running?

I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices-->
Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The
calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable
Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page
the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support
JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly.
You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at:

NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss.




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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Dec 2016 Peter Young  wrote:

[ http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/ ]

 #3798 works as expected.

>>> Works on #3803 here (6.20 RPC)

>> Thanks. I'll assume 'user error'.

> How? I can only report what I see! I call up the site, it tells me
> that JavaScript is on, I turn it off, and the site still tells me that
> it's still on. How could I have made an error that made that happen?

> Is it something to do with the ARMX6, or with something else that I'm
> running?

I've just tried it on my ARMX6 (OS 5.23) and it works just the same.

Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off 
e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ?

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Dec 2016 Brian Jordan  wrote:

> I have JavaScript enabled here as a matter of course (Choices-->
> Content--> Not ticked, which appears to be the default setting. The
> calendar display is incomplete with the message "You may need to disable
> Javascript and reload this page" If I then disable JS and reload the page
> the display area has a message "Your browser does not appear to support
> JavaScript but this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly.
> You can visit the HTML-only version of this page at:

> NetSurf #3803 is doing my head in, Boss.

It's contradictory. When you open the page it says "Your Javascript 
ios disabled as it should be" at the top, then underneath Google 
calendar says "Your browser does not appear to support JavaScript but 
this page needs to use JavaScript to display correctly. ...". However 
if you follow the link the calendar display comes up.

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Dec 2016 Tim Hill  wrote:

>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

I've run into a slight problem with the calendar. If you click a link 
associated with an event the page opens in the window in the middle of 
your page. There doesn't appear to be any way to get back to the 
calendar short of starting again. The back button doesn't help.

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Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Chris Young


On 16 December 2016 22:49:06 GMT+00:00, Richard Porter  
wrote:

>Have you got a test page that tells you if javascript is on or off 
>e.g. Javascript is NOT enabled. ?

http://www.javatester.org/javascript.html

Chris



Re: Javascript ON when it's OFF

2016-12-16 Thread Bryan Hogan
In message <55ef509b5e...@timil.com>
  Tim Hill  wrote:

>>From Newsgroup: comp.sys.acorn.misc
> Subject: Re: London Show news
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:20

> In article , Peter Young
>  wrote:
>> On 16 Dec 2016  Tim Hill  wrote:

>>> In article <4ec82cef55.br...@helpful.demon.co.uk>, Bryan Hogan
>>>  wrote:
 Although the Events Calendar doesn't work in NetSurf, so also have a
 nomination in the Broken Cog category :-D

>>> It does, why have you got javascript switched on?  ;-)

>>> Fixed that for you:

>>> http://timil.com/riscos/calendar/

>> Not working here, #3803. The site says that JavaScript is on, even
>> though I've turned it off, quit NetSurf and tried to see the site
>> again.

> Must be a problem with that version. The message saying it is ON is
> rendered with Javascript so how can it possibly be disabled?

I had js off when I first visited the page, but received what must 
have been the js version, with just a blank white box in the middle of 
the page. So I then tried with js on, still got the exact same page.

However having just turned my ARMini back on and tried again, I now 
get the version that says "Welcome NetSurf user, you have JS 
disabled". So something must have been wrong with the page caching.

However, the calendar still doesn't display. Now I briefly get a "Bad 
redirect URL" error in NetSurf's status bar :-(

NetSurf v3.6 (19th Nov 2016) - the release version.

Others have it working so there must be something going on here. I'll 
have more of a play over the weekend.

Thanks,
Bryan.

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