Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Young
On 17 Dec 2014  Steve Fryatt  wrote:

> On 17 Dec, Peter Young wrote in message
> <22e59c7754.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:

>> This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but has been
>> happening for several days now.
>> 
>> Any of the BBC sires are now taking a lot longer to download, maybe by a
>> factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower than the
>> www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the slowest to
>> download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the same as
>> usual.
>> 
>> Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect the
>> latter.

> Have you done the same comparison using another browser (on another OS), to
> confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves? For many
> sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.

Good point. Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 
seconds with RISC OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar; with Chrome in 
Windows, again already running, less than 2 seconds. Is this worth a 
bug report?

Best wishes,

Peter.

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Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
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Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Young
On 17 Dec 2014  george greenfield  
wrote:

> In message 
>   Peter Young  wrote:

>> On 17 Dec 2014  Peter Young  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but has
>>> been happening for several days now.
>> 
>>> Any of the BBC sites are now taking a lot longer to download, maybe by
>>> a factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower than
>>> the www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the slowest
>> 
>> Sorry, typo. http://www.mssociety.org.uk/
>> 
>> 
>>> to download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the same
>>> as usual.
>> 
>>> Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect the
>>> latter.
>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>> 
>>> Peter.
>> 
>> 
> Haven't noticed the Beeb being slow, but the MS Society link you gave
> loaded here in 4.7 secs, the forum link in 0.7 and the support link in
> 2.6 secs respectively - I wouldn't call that slow, personally. Setup
> is a RaspPi RO 5.21 (900Mhz) running NS 3.2 official release.

7 seconds to the MS/Cheltnham site, and 5 seconds from this to the 
forum. Roughly the same timings with Chrome on Windows. This is a lot 
quicker than normal with both platforms.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Re) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
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Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread David Pitt
Peter Young, on 18 Dec, wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2014  Steve Fryatt  wrote:
> 
> > On 17 Dec, Peter Young wrote in message
> > <22e59c7754.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:
> 
> > > This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but has
> > > been happening for several days now.
> >> 
> > > Any of the BBC sires are now taking a lot longer to download, maybe by
> > > a factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower than
> > > the www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the slowest
> > > to download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the same
> > > as usual.
> >> 
> > > Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect the
> > > latter.
> 
> > Have you done the same comparison using another browser (on another OS),
> > to confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves? For
> > many sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.
> 
> Good point. Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 seconds
> with RISC OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar; with Chrome in Windows,
> again already running, less than 2 seconds. Is this worth a bug report?

NetSurf #2441 downloads the weather in 4.6s on the RaspberryPi.

Is there by any chance spurious junk in a previously used NetSurf Cache?

-- 
David Pitt



Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Young
On 18 Dec 2014  David Pitt  wrote:

> Peter Young, on 18 Dec, wrote:

>> On 17 Dec 2014  Steve Fryatt  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 17 Dec, Peter Young wrote in message
>>> <22e59c7754.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:
>> 
 This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but has
 been happening for several days now.
 
 Any of the BBC sires are now taking a lot longer to download, maybe by
 a factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower than
 the www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the slowest
 to download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the same
 as usual.
 
 Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect the
 latter.
>> 
>>> Have you done the same comparison using another browser (on another OS),
>>> to confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves? For
>>> many sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.
>> 
>> Good point. Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 seconds
>> with RISC OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar; with Chrome in Windows,
>> again already running, less than 2 seconds. Is this worth a bug report?

> NetSurf #2441 downloads the weather in 4.6s on the RaspberryPi.

> Is there by any chance spurious junk in a previously used NetSurf Cache?

No, I gave up using the disc cache, as it made everything very slow.

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Re) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Malcolm Hussain-Gambles
An unashamed plug for my two apps - doesn't help netsurf though. 
Newsuk and weatheruk pull the data off the BBC. Available on the plingstore 
(free). 

Cheers

Malcolm

On 18 Dec 2014, Peter Young  wrote:
>On 18 Dec 2014  David Pitt  wrote:
>
>> Peter Young, on 18 Dec, wrote:
>
>>> On 17 Dec 2014  Steve Fryatt  wrote:
>>> 
 On 17 Dec, Peter Young wrote in message
 <22e59c7754.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:
>>> 
> This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but
>has
> been happening for several days now.
> 
> Any of the BBC sires are now taking a lot longer to download,
>maybe by
> a factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower
>than
> the www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the
>slowest
> to download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the
>same
> as usual.
> 
> Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect
>the
> latter.
>>> 
 Have you done the same comparison using another browser (on another
>OS),
 to confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves?
>For
 many sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.
>>> 
>>> Good point. Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20
>seconds
>>> with RISC OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar; with Chrome in
>Windows,
>>> again already running, less than 2 seconds. Is this worth a bug
>report?
>
>> NetSurf #2441 downloads the weather in 4.6s on the RaspberryPi.
>
>> Is there by any chance spurious junk in a previously used NetSurf
>Cache?
>
>No, I gave up using the disc cache, as it made everything very slow.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Peter.

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Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Young
On 18 Dec 2014  Malcolm Hussain-Gambles  
wrote:

> An unashamed plug for my two apps - doesn't help netsurf though.
> Newsuk and weatheruk pull the data off the BBC. Available on the
> plingstore (free).

> Cheers

> Malcolm

Yes, I've got them both. I must remember the the weather one!

Peter.


> On 18 Dec 2014, Peter Young  wrote:
>>On 18 Dec 2014  David Pitt  wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Young, on 18 Dec, wrote:
>>
 On 17 Dec 2014  Steve Fryatt  wrote:
 
> On 17 Dec, Peter Young wrote in message
> <22e59c7754.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>:
 
>> This is with RISC OS and development builds, currently #2441, but
>>has
>> been happening for several days now.
>> 
>> Any of the BBC sires are now taking a lot longer to download,
>>maybe by
>> a factor of five to ten times as long. They are now even slower
>>than
>> the www.msscociety.org.uk sites which till now have been the
>>slowest
>> to download. I've checked my connection speed, and it's much the
>>same
>> as usual.
>> 
>> Is this a problem with NetSurf or with the BBC sites? I suspect
>>the
>> latter.
 
> Have you done the same comparison using another browser (on another
>>OS),
> to confirm that it's actually NetSurf and not the sites themselves?
>>For
> many sites, your connection speed won't be the limiting factor.
 
 Good point. Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20
>>seconds
 with RISC OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar; with Chrome in
>>Windows,
 again already running, less than 2 seconds. Is this worth a bug
>>report?
>>
>>> NetSurf #2441 downloads the weather in 4.6s on the RaspberryPi.
>>
>>> Is there by any chance spurious junk in a previously used NetSurf
>>Cache?
>>
>>No, I gave up using the disc cache, as it made everything very slow.
>>
>>Best wishes,
>>
>>Peter.

> -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing.



Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Brian Howlett
On 18 Dec, Peter Young wrote:

> Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 seconds with RISC
> OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar

12.1 seconds here, without Netsurf running, then 9.6 seconds on a 
second load with Netsurf running.

Using CI #2441 on Iyonix with RO 5.20.
-- 
Brian Howlett

"I'm Brian, and so's my wife..."



Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Young
On 18 Dec 2014  Brian Howlett  wrote:

> On 18 Dec, Peter Young wrote:

>> Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 seconds with RISC
>> OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar

> 12.1 seconds here, without Netsurf running, then 9.6 seconds on a
> second load with Netsurf running.

> Using CI #2441 on Iyonix with RO 5.20.

13 seconds here with NetSurf on the icon bar, so better than this 
morning, but still slow. Perhaps there's something odd with my setup. 
Would a logfile be helpful to anyone?

#2441, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Re) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: BBC sites very slow.

2014-12-18 Thread george greenfield
In message <235c187854.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>
  Peter Young  wrote:

> On 18 Dec 2014  Brian Howlett  wrote:
> 
>> On 18 Dec, Peter Young wrote:
> 
>>> Using http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 1 minute 20 seconds with RISC
>>> OS NetSurf, already on the icon bar
> 
>> 12.1 seconds here, without Netsurf running, then 9.6 seconds on a
>> second load with Netsurf running.
> 
>> Using CI #2441 on Iyonix with RO 5.20.
> 
> 13 seconds here with NetSurf on the icon bar, so better than this
> morning, but still slow. Perhaps there's something odd with my setup.
> Would a logfile be helpful to anyone?
> 
> #2441, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Peter.
> 
3.7 secs here (RaspPi 900Mhz, 5.21, NS 3.2)

-- 
George