Re: routers

2014-12-03 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Gavin Wraith  wrote

> Do there exist any routers which can be controlled by NetSurf?

I have managed a Vigor Draytek 2600 for several years using NetSurf 
and Nettle.

-- 
John Rickman -  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
No sé nada, y no estoy seguro de éso



[Fwd: A curious case of attachment filetyping]

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners


 Original Message 
Subject: A curious case of attachment filetyping
From:"John Hurley" 
Date:Wed, 3 December, 2014 11:15 am
To:  armini-supp...@freelists.org
 netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org
--

I am not sure where this should go so will post to ARMini and Netsurf
lists. On Friday I could send attachments (as .doc files and .pdf) quite
normally from the ARMini X using Netsurf 3.2. On Tues they are not being
sent as applications but as text files. In that time nothing has changed
bar a problem with my Orpheus account but this is ruled out as the cause
as both the Iyonix and my Mac and PC laptop can send attachments normally.
I have looked for a Netsurf Choices setting which might have been
accidentally altered but none seem relevant.

Any advice is gratefully acknowledged


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




RE: [Fwd: A curious case of attachment filetyping]

2014-12-03 Thread Dave Higton
On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:35:59 - (UTC) Dr. John Nurley wrote:

> I am not sure where this should go so will post to ARMini and Netsurf
> lists. On Friday I could send attachments (as .doc files and .pdf) quite
> normally from the ARMini X using Netsurf 3.2. On Tues they are not being
> sent as applications but as text files. In that time nothing has changed
> bar a problem with my Orpheus account but this is ruled out as the cause
> as both the Iyonix and my Mac and PC laptop can send attachments
> normally.

I'm confused.  "Attachments" normally refers to email, which would
appear to have nothing to do with Netsurf.

Can you please give more detail about what you're doing and how
you're doing it?

Dave


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RE: A curious case of attachment filetyping]]

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners


 On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 Dave Higton wrote:

snip
>
> I'm confused.  "Attachments" normally refers to email, which would
> appear to have nothing to do with Netsurf.
>
> Can you please give more detail about what you're doing and how
> you're doing it?
>
I am using Netsurf to access Orpheus webmail for emails. Attaching files
typed as Word and PDF last Friday was fine, they went as applications.
Come Tuesday they go (from the ARMini X) as text and are unreadable
(expect curiously on RISC OS machines) in their proper form. I am unaware
that I have changed any settings either on the ARMini or in Netsurf and I
cannot find any relevant setting in Netsurf any way. As I said I am not
sure this is a Netsurf problem on this machine or an ARMini one. My Iyonix
can send attachments in webmail properly. Although I had a problem with
Orpheus webmail over the weekend, this would seem to rule Orpheus out.

If anyone could indicate where to start looking I would be grateful.

Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education





Re: [ARMini-support] A curious case of attachment filetyping

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners

> In message <49375.86.154.71.56.1417605312.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co
> .uk>
>   "John Hurley"  wrote:

>> I have looked for a Netsurf Choices setting which might have been
>> accidentally altered but none seem relevant.

Andrew Rawnsley wrote:
>
> Normally you'd use an email client such as Messenger Pro to send
> attachments, which would be handled by the program talking to the OS
> (it's a process that involves the MimeMap module and its corresponding
> textfile-database of MIME types).
>
> The MIME type list is in !Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files.MimeMap or in
> !Boot.Choices.Internet.MimeMap.  If you have backups of these files,
> it might not be daft to recover them.

Thanks for the suggestion I will try that.

> What makes this more confusing/convoluted/unknown is that you're doing
> email via a web browser.  Not really recommended for more elaborate
> tasks (eg. sending attachments).  I'd *imagine* that NetSurf will use
> the MimeMap method described above, but in a slightly more generic way
> (it doesn't know you're doing email etc, nor does it need to).
> However, it's down to the website (ie. Orpheus) to turn that into an
> actual email.  Neither you, nor Netsurf, have much/any control over
> this via webmail.

> Like I say, I wouldn't use webmail to send attachments, myself,
> although to be fair, I've also not tried Orpheus' webmail client.  I
> *can* say that last time I tried to send 3 photos via Hotmail (last
> year) it was a complete failure (via Windows browser).  Same files
> sent immediately via Messenger Pro (RISC OS).

Orpheus, using squirrel mail has been very reliable handling attachments.
Although I had problems evident on all machines over the weekend (someone
appears to have got hold of my password and altered all my configuration
settings) that is now resolved. The Iyonix and the Mac and PC are behaving
as I would expect. We use webmail because as a company we are based in
different locations and use a range of hardware so it is a common tool for
us all and works well. It is however playing up again on the ARMini as I
write this. Perhaps GCHQ are taking an interest!
>

>
> PS, silly suggestion - you *did* append /pdf and /doc to the
> filesnames?  You'd definately have issues at the receiving end if you
> didn't.

Not silly at all, but of course I did.


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




Re: A curious case of attachment filetyping]]

2014-12-03 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 01:30:58PM -, Learning Partners wrote:
> 
> 
>  On Wed, 3 Dec 2014 Dave Higton wrote:
> 
> snip
> >
> > I'm confused.  "Attachments" normally refers to email, which would
> > appear to have nothing to do with Netsurf.
> >
> > Can you please give more detail about what you're doing and how
> > you're doing it?
> >
> I am using Netsurf to access Orpheus webmail for emails. Attaching files
> typed as Word and PDF last Friday was fine, they went as applications.

What do you mean, "went as applications" ?  One hopes they went as
files.  Can Orpheus not tell you what file type is being uploaded?

B.



Re: A curious case of attachment filetyping]]

2014-12-03 Thread Learning Partners

> On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote:

snip
>
> What do you mean, "went as applications" ?  One hopes they went as
> files.  Can Orpheus not tell you what file type is being uploaded?

Usually, and until last Friday, using Netsurf on the ARMini X Orpheus
webmail recognises doc files as application/MS word - from I think the
Mime file in !Boot. Since Monday this has changed to plain/text. Ditto
with pdf. This nakes the files unreadable to non RISC OS users, who
natyurally are the majority with whom I deal and it is inconvenient to say
the least as our revenue earners are reports and publications.

This is a problem only on the ARMini running Netsurf to reach Orpheus. On
the Iyonix running Netsurf all is fine and on other platforms/ browsers,
which suggests Orpheus is not the problem - a point which Richard Brown
has made firmly. Neither Netsurf nor Orpheus appear to have Choices
settings that look as if they control this.

I am simply trying to find out where in the chain ARMini X - Netsurf -
Orpheus something might be going wrong so I can fix it. The Mime file
itself looks ok by the way. And as I say all was well last Friday and I am
not aware that I have changed anything to cause the problem. But something
is clearly corrupted in the chain. I have tried retrograding to NS 3.1 but
the problem persists. I am posting to ARMini support because the problem
of corruption could lie with the machine or Netsurf, but not for the
reasons stated is it likely to be Orpheus.


Dr John Hurley
Research and project development for education




Re: routers

2014-12-03 Thread Chris Shepheard
In message <23a0f06f54.ga...@gavin.wra1th.plus.com>
  Gavin Wraith  wrote:

> But my XP notebook, which I usually use to
> configure the router, seems to be behaving strangely. It can take five
> minutes for a webpage on the router to load, whether I am using wireless
> or an ethernet cable to connect the two machines. Something has to be
> wrong, but what?

If it's a Plusnet supplied Thompson/Technicolor router that sort of 
delay does not seem unusual. I have had similar delays accessing two 
different Plusnet routers from two different XP equipped computers.

Chris

-- 

Chris Shepheard writing as himself  
chris.shephe...@chrispics.co.uk
from far west Surreywww.chrispics.co.uk



Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread Cristopher Dewhurst
Hi all

Does anyone know why Netsurf scales the images on www.change.org to 
what seems like several thousand percent?

For example on the recent petition

https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era?utm_source=
 
action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=192906

pixels in some of the images are about an inch square on the screen so 
you have to scroll over large areas to read the text.

At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21 
Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other platforms?

thanks,
-- 

Chris



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread David Pitt
Cristopher Dewhurst, on 3 Dec, wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Does anyone know why Netsurf scales the images on www.change.org to what
> seems like several thousand percent?
> 
> For example on the recent petition
> 
>
https://www.change.org/p/new-era-should-not-become-the-end-of-an-era?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=192906
> 
> pixels in some of the images are about an inch square on the screen so you
> have to scroll over large areas to read the text.
> 
> At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21 Raspberry
> Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other platforms?

#2419 doesn't like on the A9home.


-- 
David Pitt



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread cj
In article ,
   David Pitt  wrote:
> > At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21
> > Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other
> > platforms?

Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread cj
In article <54705f9528ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>,
   cj  wrote:
> In article ,
>David Pitt  wrote:

I don't think he did - blame Pluto, not me 8)

> > > At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21
> > > Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other
> > > platforms?

> Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: routers

2014-12-03 Thread Gavin Wraith
In message <5dbb567054.chris.shephe...@shepheard.plus.com>
  Chris Shepheard  wrote:

>If it's a Plusnet supplied Thompson/Technicolor router that sort of
>delay does not seem unusual. I have had similar delays accessing two
>different Plusnet routers from two different XP equipped computers.

Thanks. Some while ago I changed my Plusnet contract because I thought
they would give me a new router with it, but it never turned up.
Maybe that is just as well. I note that the wifi speed of the XP machine
claims to be 54Mb/s while my router's appears to be 18Mb/s. My
neighbour's wifi routers are all 54Mb/s.

-- 
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Home page: http://www.wra1th.plus.com/



Re: Change.org massively scaled images

2014-12-03 Thread george greenfield
In message <54705f9528ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>
  cj  wrote:

> In article ,
>David Pitt  wrote:
>> > At least this is what I get on NS 3.3 Dev Cl#2419, RISC OS 5.21
>> > Raspberry Pi, be interesting to see what happens on other
>> > platforms?
> 
> Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.
> 
Same here (NS 3.2 stable release, Raspberry Pi B, RO 5.21 
(13-Sept-14).

-- 
George