Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
Jim Nagel wrote > I've wondered for a long time what it is about Wikipedia's layout > (or something) that makes its pages so slow to render in Netsurf, > compared to the time to render the same page in Firefox or Chrome. > (Netsurf #891 here at the moment, but the wondering goes back a lot > further; running on RiscPC or Iyonix. Firefox or Chrome on XP.) > This isn't a criticism, just a curious Q about technicalities > involved. Are there any pages in particular that are slow? Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and render which is quick enough. John -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: > Are there any pages in particular that are slow? > Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and > render which is quick enough. On Netsurf home page, click Wikipedia link. The Wikipedia home page takes 10 seconds to appear on my Iyonix (Ro 5.18, Netsurf #891). Today's home page happens to have a link to "exoplanet". I clicked that; the Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet took 10 seconds to appear. Click a typical link on that page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extragalactic_planet takes 9 seconds to appear. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk >> "from" address is genuine but will change. website has current one.
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: > > Are there any pages in particular that are slow? > > Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and > > render which is quick enough. > On Netsurf home page, click Wikipedia link. The Wikipedia home page > takes 10 seconds to appear on my Iyonix (Ro 5.18, Netsurf #891). > Today's home page happens to have a link to "exoplanet". I clicked > that; the Wikipedia entry > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet took 10 seconds to > appear. > Click a typical link on that page. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extragalactic_planet takes 9 seconds to > appear. Timings seem a bit different here (RISC OS 5.19, 24 Feb 2013), NetSurf #946 js disabled. Test 1: 3.8s rather than 10s Test 2: 13s rather than 10s Test 3: 2.8s rather than 9s YMMV -- Chris Johnson
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 02:00:01PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: > John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: > > Are there any pages in particular that are slow? > > Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and > > render which is quick enough. > > On Netsurf home page, click Wikipedia link. The Wikipedia home page > takes 10 seconds to appear on my Iyonix (Ro 5.18, Netsurf #891). What were you expecting from a system built using a CPU meant to go on SCSI cards from 2002 and an OS with a dire IO layer? To be honest, I'm amazed it only takes 10 seconds. B.
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
Jim Nagel wrote > John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: >> Are there any pages in particular that are slow? >> Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and >> render which is quick enough. the Wikipedia entry > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet took 10 seconds to > appear. Its nothing to do with Wikipedia just a function of page content size. A full save of the above page shows it to comprise 492 files with a total size of 780 kbytes. http://www.wikipedia.org/ takes 2 seconds to load and comprises 56 files total size 14 kbytes John -- John Rickman - http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
In message <20130225145543.gd8...@pepperfish.net> Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 02:00:01PM +, Jim Nagel wrote: >> John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: [snip] >> >> On Netsurf home page, click Wikipedia link. The Wikipedia home page >> takes 10 seconds to appear on my Iyonix (Ro 5.18, Netsurf #891). > > What were you expecting from a system built using a CPU meant to go on > SCSI cards from 2002 and an OS with a dire IO layer? > > To be honest, I'm amazed it only takes 10 seconds. > > B. > I tried the same test here (RPCEmu089/402 running on a Win7/64 Dell XPS [3.4Ghz quad-core i7 CPU] and it averaged 3 secs over 3 or 4 tries, which seems quite acceptable. I suspect the performance on an Pandaboard ES or Armini would be similar, or better. The Iyo was a fine machine in its day but it is now obsolescent, even by RISC OS standards. On the PC side using Firefox the page takes under a second. Cheers, George -- george greenfield
Re: rendering of Wikipedia page
In message <53239574c5ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk> cj wrote: > In article , >Jim Nagel wrote: >> John Rickman Iyonix wrote on 24 Feb: >> > Are there any pages in particular that are slow? >> > Wikipedia pages on my Iyonix typically take 2 to 3 seconds to load and >> > render which is quick enough. > >> On Netsurf home page, click Wikipedia link. The Wikipedia home page >> takes 10 seconds to appear on my Iyonix (Ro 5.18, Netsurf #891). > >> Today's home page happens to have a link to "exoplanet". I clicked >> that; the Wikipedia entry >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet took 10 seconds to >> appear. > >> Click a typical link on that page. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extragalactic_planet takes 9 seconds to >> appear. > > Timings seem a bit different here (RISC OS 5.19, 24 Feb 2013), > NetSurf #946 js disabled. > > Test 1: 3.8s rather than 10s > Test 2: 13s rather than 10s > Test 3: 2.8s rather than 9s > > YMMV > I think I may have misunderstood the question in my earlier response. Anyway, results here under RPCEmu089/402 (system details as before, NS #932, json): Test 1: 3s Test 2: 8s Test 3: 2s The thought occurs that local network speed could have a bearing on these results as well. G -- george greenfield
Re: Failure to post bug report.
In article , Peter Young wrote: > I've been trying to post this to the bug tracker: > [quote] > NetSurf #942 and ARMini, RISC OS 5.19 (16 May 2012). > Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck > on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, > after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It > works on Windows Firefox Using #948 ditto with these... http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/ http://www.document-records.com/ Can others verify this, please? What's going on? -- Chris
Re: Failure to post bug report.
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:13:07 + (GMT), Chris Newman wrote: > > Trying to access http://www.document-records.com/ fails. It gets stuck > > on "Fetching, Fetching, Processing"; no timeout after two minutes, > > after which I got bored. This is with JavaScript either on or off. It > > works on Windows Firefox > > Using #948 ditto with these... > > http://www.georgesregisjazzband.com/ > > > http://www.document-records.com/ > > > Can others verify this, please? What's going on? Same here, also getting it with http://www.amiga.org Chris
