viewing CSS

2013-02-18 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Does anyone know of a neater way of viewing CSS?
What I do at present is
  press F8 to view html.
  look at the -http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx



Re: viewing CSS

2013-02-18 Thread Brian Jordan
In message <0229de1f53.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>
  John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

> Does anyone know of a neater way of viewing CSS?

[snip]

Full save to disc, open generated pseudo app, read CSS file(s). Or 
have I missed the point?


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Brian Jordan
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Re: viewing CSS

2013-02-18 Thread Tim Hill
In article <0229de1f53.iyoj...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
   John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:
> Does anyone know of a neater way of viewing CSS?
> What I do at present is
>   press F8 to view html.
>   look at the -   click in the NS url text area
>   delete back to the url base
>   type the CSS relative path and file name
>   press enter

Similar, but I use cut'n'paste. Less prone to mistiping. 

> It would be useful if NetSurf had a View CSS.. menu option, but I have 
> no idea how much work this would involve.

More than very occasional use by a very few of us would warrant, I
imagine.

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Re: viewing CSS

2013-02-18 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23:46AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
> > It would be useful if NetSurf had a View CSS.. menu option, but I have 
> > no idea how much work this would involve.
> 
> More than very occasional use by a very few of us would warrant, I
> imagine.

Given a web page can have basically as many CSS files as it likes,
arranged in a tree of dependencies that import one and other, how would
these even work?  Parse all the documents and emit a single CSS document
that represented NetSurf's understanding?

Sounds like a lot of work for an occasional convenience :)

B.



Re: viewing CSS

2013-02-18 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Rob Kendrick  wrote

> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 10:23:46AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
>>> It would be useful if NetSurf had a View CSS.. menu option, but I have
>>> no idea how much work this would involve.
>> 
>> More than very occasional use by a very few of us would warrant, I
>> imagine.

> Given a web page can have basically as many CSS files as it likes,
> arranged in a tree of dependencies that import one and other, how would
> these even work?  Parse all the documents and emit a single CSS document
> that represented NetSurf's understanding?

Firefox and Chromium offer CSS and JavaScript viewing via Add-ons or 
Plug-ins.

Chromium (Web Developer) lists the files one after another.
Firebug does the same under the HTML tab. It also has a CSS tab which 
purports to show the CSS that it is using. You would expect this to 
show the combination of all loaded style sheets but it seems to show 
the FIRST one only -surely shome mishtake!

> Sounds like a lot of work for an occasional convenience :)
I am not going to argue with a developer:)


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répéter.



NetSurf html events

2013-02-18 Thread John Rickman Iyonix

Are any of the html mouse events working in NetSurf?
eg click, mouseover, mouseout, mousemove.

The final item on the page for the link below, "mouse event tests" 
works on Firefox but not on NestSurf.

  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/testing/index.html

Is there any more detailed documentation to say what is implemented 
apart from this?
  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/progress


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John Rickman 



Latest builds crash when opening hotlist/history pages

2013-02-18 Thread Harriet Bazley
Builds json-904 and json-904 both crash when I double-click on a hotlist
or browsing history entry with a stack backtrace along the following
lines:

Stack backtrace:

Running thread 0x622968
  (  62bee4) pc:   489178 lr:abf44 sp:   62bee8  __write_backtrace()
  (  62bf10) pc:abec8 lr:   4899c0 sp:   62bf14  ^ro_gui_signal()
  (  62bf38) pc:   4899b0 lr:   4897e4 sp:   62bf3c  __unixlib_exec_sig()
  (  62bfa0) pc:   48929c lr:   489fc4 sp:   62bfa4  __unixlib_raise_signal()
  (  62bfb0) pc:   489ec8 lr:   4957b8 sp:   62a934  __h_cback()

  Register dump at 0062bfb4:

a1: faa6f1b5 a2: fff27167 a3:1 a4:1
v1: e1a07000 v2: faa6f1b5 v3: 78498958 v4: 783b8c10
v5:1 v6: 78498940 sl:   62a208 fp:   62a948
ip:   62a94c sp:   62a934 lr:   4957b8 pc:   495528
cpsr: 2010

  00495514 : .. á : e1a0 : MOV R0,R0
  00495518 : .. á : e1a0 : MOV R0,R0
  0049551c : .. á : e1a0 : MOV R0,R0
  00495520 : . .â : e2102003 : ANDSR2,R0,#3
  00495524 : .0 ã : e3a03001 : MOV R3,#1
  00495528 : .À.ç : e710c002 : LDR R12,[R0,-R2]
  0049552c : .4ć : e1833403 : ORR R3,R3,R3,LSL #8
  00495530 : .. á : e1a01000 : MOV R1,R0
  00495534 : .8ć : e1833803 : ORR R3,R3,R3,LSL #16

  (  62a948) pc:   4957a8 lr:4f9f8 sp:   62a94c  __strdup()
  (  62a96c) pc:4f998 lr:4fc18 sp:   62a970  ^history_clone_entry()
  (  62a984) pc:4fbc8 lr:47ab8 sp:   62a988  history_clone()
  (  62a99c) pc:47a98 lr:4a5a4 sp:   62a9a0  
browser_window_initialise_common()
  (  62a9cc) pc:4a52c lr:65020 sp:   62a9d0  browser_window_create()
  (  62a9fc) pc:64ee8 lr:633ec sp:   62aa00  tree_url_node_callback()
  (  62aa38) pc:630a0 lr:c9838 sp:   62aa3c  tree_mouse_action()
  (  62aafc) pc:c9660 lr:d1250 sp:   62ab00  ^ro_treeview_mouse_click()
  (  62ab68) pc:d120c lr:aaf0c sp:   62ab6c  
ro_gui_wimp_event_mouse_click()
  (  62ae34) pc:aaa58 lr:532a4 sp:   62ae38  gui_poll()
  (  62ae4c) pc:53280 lr:ac7cc sp:   62ae50  netsurf_main_loop()
  (  62afe8) pc:ac2b8 lr:   497de0 sp:   62afec  main()


Reverted to json-825 without further test attempts, as
http://netsurf.strcprstskrzkrk.co.uk/ (the download address in my
hotlist) is extremely difficult to type accurately when menu selection
doesn't work :-(

Iyonix Aria, RISC OS 5.18

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