OT (was:Re: Sloppy writing generates false positive spam warnings (was Re: aggravating pane))

2011-03-21 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Simon Smith
 wrote:
> On 18 Mar, Jim Nagel wrote in message
> <286dfbb551@nails.abbeypress.net>:

> > there appears to be no way to scroll right to read the rest of the
> > text in the inner pane of this warning generated by Netsurf:
> > www.abbeypress.net/TEMP/NS-certificatepane.png (12K).


> Those two very vague subjects of 'aggravating pane' and 'mobile
> Facebook' (sic) combined with the mostly lower-case, unpunctuated body
> text both looked so much like maillist spam to me that I nearly
> consigned the original poster to spam-filter oblivion without looking
> any closer. You need to write more properer than that, Jim; it's a bad
> idea to write so sloppily you generate false positives on people's spam
> filters. I'm not even talking about a computer-controlled filter here -
> this time you almost fooled the human. And if I'd actually bothered to
> set up a computer-moderated filter with the criteria I was mentally
> applying, you certainly would have been caught by it.

This is a good example of stifling creativity or at least a personal
style. One could criticise you for your subjective assessment of
perfectly good subject lines, sentence length, use of words such as
'properer' and 'maillist', mis-use of a semi-colon, starting a sentence
with 'And', the use of contractions in written English, and a split
infinitive.

Pot. Kettle.

i am sure jim may ignore the shift key and punctuation for a good reason

no meaning is lost

Perhaps you should use an ISP who uses proper spam eradication techniques
instead of a sledgehammer approach based on what you think prose should
look like.

While you ponder that, please also reply elsewhere as your post had
nothing to do with the brilliant NetSurf.




Re: logging

2011-03-21 Thread Kevin Wells
In message <51b749bbd1bbai...@argonet.co.uk>
  Brian Bailey  wrote:

>I am intrigued by the successive improvement and development of Netsurf.
>Periodically I load a personal favourite page in Wikepedia, just to see
>what changes are apparent in performance. It would seem that loading and
>rendering of that page does indeed vary.
>
>To what extent can one expect verbose logging to slow things down (I use a
>rather slow machine, which I am not going to change this side of
>Christmas). Is it possible to turn verbose logging on/off.

Not tested, but in the !Run file near the bottom is the following line:

Run .!RunImage -v %*0 2>.WWW.NetSurf.Log

If you put a | before the .WWW.NetSurf.Log that should
disable the logging.

Unless their is anything in the Netsurf code itself that expects to
write to the log it should work, but I'm offering no guarantees.

>
>Just out of interest, could someone clarify, please.
>
>


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Re: logging

2011-03-21 Thread Brian Bailey
In article ,
   Kevin Wells  wrote:
> In message <51b749bbd1bbai...@argonet.co.uk>
>   Brian Bailey  wrote:

> >I am intrigued by the successive improvement and development of Netsurf.
> >Periodically I load a personal favourite page in Wikepedia, just to see
> >what changes are apparent in performance. It would seem that loading and
> >rendering of that page does indeed vary.
> >
> >To what extent can one expect verbose logging to slow things down (I
> >use a rather slow machine, which I am not going to change this side of
> >Christmas). Is it possible to turn verbose logging on/off.

> Not tested, but in the !Run file near the bottom is the following line:

> Run .!RunImage -v %*0 2>.WWW.NetSurf.Log

> If you put a | before the .WWW.NetSurf.Log that should
> disable the logging.

Thanks, Kevin. I was looking for something like that but just couldn't see
it. I'll give it a go. Hope that it doesn't explode!

> Unless their is anything in the Netsurf code itself that expects to
> write to the log it should work, but I'm offering no guarantees.

> >
> >Just out of interest, could someone clarify, please.
> >
> >




Re: logging

2011-03-21 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:03:29PM +, Kevin Wells wrote:
> In message <51b749bbd1bbai...@argonet.co.uk>
>   Brian Bailey  wrote:
> 
> >I am intrigued by the successive improvement and development of Netsurf.
> >Periodically I load a personal favourite page in Wikepedia, just to see
> >what changes are apparent in performance. It would seem that loading and
> >rendering of that page does indeed vary.
> >
> >To what extent can one expect verbose logging to slow things down (I use a
> >rather slow machine, which I am not going to change this side of
> >Christmas). Is it possible to turn verbose logging on/off.
> 
> Not tested, but in the !Run file near the bottom is the following line:
> 
> Run .!RunImage -v %*0 2>.WWW.NetSurf.Log
> 
> If you put a | before the .WWW.NetSurf.Log that should
> disable the logging.
> 
> Unless their is anything in the Netsurf code itself that expects to
> write to the log it should work, but I'm offering no guarantees.

Remove the -v flag.  That is what enables verbose logging.  Note that
this simply stops NetSurf formatting and emitting the log data.  It will
still involve checking "do I need to log this?"

B.



Problem on test build page.

2011-03-21 Thread Dr Peter Young
When I visit the test build page, I usually click on the links from 
the latest build numbers, to check which are applicable to the RISC OS 
versions (the rest of the details are incomprehensible to me). Since 
this morning, I get an error message, saying:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform 
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done 
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error 
log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while 
trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I don't know how to contact the server administrator, so I'm 
mentioning this here.

Thanks in advance,

Peter.

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